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Any reason why you didn't do the awards by player positions (1,2,3,4,5) ?
Regardless, amazing job. Thank you.
Team Liquid's Dota 2 Awards 2012 - Page 4
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Unleashing
Denmark14978 Posts
Any reason why you didn't do the awards by player positions (1,2,3,4,5) ? Regardless, amazing job. Thank you. | ||
TheEmulator
28103 Posts
On January 16 2013 02:46 Unleashing wrote: Nice awards, i pretty much agree with all of them Any reason why you didn't do the awards by player positions (1,2,3,4,5) ? Regardless, amazing job. Thank you. Scintillia thought it would be redundant, mostly considering that a lot of teams don't even stick to that traditional format anymore. | ||
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SteveWoods
United States57 Posts
On January 16 2013 02:13 zul wrote: LD is a great caster and deserves all the praises he gets, but not mentioning Tobi is almost bm. His enthusiastic casting style helped the dota-scene sooo much during the early days. remember his dreamhack cast, or TI2, or TI1, or starladder or the countless online events? Shortterm memory can be a bitch. Tobi's also had a fair amount of controversy surrounding him due to him refusing to cast Valve-assigned matches pre-TI2 and abandoning The Defense for a couple weeks, leaving the tournaments with no English casts in several games, not to mention him telling Reddit to fuck off after some popular threads calling him and his organization out for their failings. His complete lack of game knowledge when he's been casting so long is also pretty embarassing. Yes, he's more popular/well-known so he gets invited to LAN events like Dreamhack or Starladder, but that only speaks to him having established himself previously; perhaps in way of being worthy of a caster of 2011 award, but not of his 2012 successes. Just having enough enthusiasm to be willing to scream every time someone uses Black Hole is not enough to justify an award this year. LD, however, has had no controversy surrounding him, shown himself to be much more knowledgeable than Tobi, and has gone out of his way to cast games the English-speaking community would have never seen otherwise, whether it be random Pinoy competitions or the majority of the G-League matches. As far as I'm concerned, he's done a lot more good for the community than Tobi in recent times. On January 16 2013 02:13 fluidin wrote: This is more of a TI2 and post-TI2 awards, isn't it. Because much of pre-TI2 wasn't taken into account. I mean, yeah, that's when TL started their Dota 2 coverage. And stuff that happens late in the year is already weighed very disproportionately naturally in these sorts of things since it's most fresh in our minds. | ||
520
United States2822 Posts
On January 16 2013 02:46 Unleashing wrote: Nice awards, i pretty much agree with all of them Any reason why you didn't do the awards by player positions (1,2,3,4,5) ? Regardless, amazing job. Thank you. A lot of teams don't really abide by the 1-2-3-4-5 position very well with a lot of players doing extra duty on multiple positions. That, and I was a bit afraid of award bloat - too many awards. Maybe that was the wrong decision. | ||
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kellymilkies
Singapore1393 Posts
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m3rciless
United States1476 Posts
On January 16 2013 02:01 TanGeng wrote: I'm not reading AA/Smile in the runner up. No, it's not there. It's all my imagination :p oh lol i am dum | ||
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duoform
Spain5180 Posts
On January 16 2013 02:49 kellymilkies wrote: YEAHHHHHHH!!!!!!! Lodaaaaaa! Hopefully he will buck up and keep on moving at this speed he is with his team and next year he shall be the BEST CARRY PLAYER of TL Awards not some China farmer!!!! <3 "not some China farmer" What? | ||
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Unleashing
Denmark14978 Posts
On January 16 2013 02:47 TheEmulator wrote: Scintillia thought it would be redundant, mostly considering that a lot of teams don't even stick to that traditional format anymore. Fair enough, i agree with the players there anyway. Definitely the best players in the scene currently. Again, thanks for this it was a very pleasant read. | ||
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m3rciless
United States1476 Posts
On January 16 2013 02:49 kellymilkies wrote: YEAHHHHHHH!!!!!!! Lodaaaaaa! Hopefully he will buck up and keep on moving at this speed he is with his team and next year he shall be the BEST CARRY PLAYER of TL Awards not some China farmer!!!! <3 ironic how the carry of the year won for lvl 8 aggression with tranquil-drum-aquila, while loda spent most of his time farming ancients that EE stacked for him. | ||
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iYiYi
United States489 Posts
The rest is good though | ||
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matthe
Germany21 Posts
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AbusiveElbow
United States5 Posts
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max1c
Ukraine34 Posts
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teapoted
United Kingdom24425 Posts
On January 16 2013 02:13 fluidin wrote: So what do you think it's missing? Before TI2 there was SL, DHS, and a bunch of online events.This is more of a TI2 and post-TI2 awards, isn't it. Because much of pre-TI2 wasn't taken into account. What exactly from those tournaments is worthy of an award? You could argue that there are a lot more new-comers that should be considered, but even then the story of Bulldog playing stand-in after pubbing with Na'Vi, or Envy with his post here on TL to winning DH. Those are still bigger stories. On January 16 2013 02:56 AbusiveElbow wrote: Umm, please. The play was a well executed team-fight from one team and a poorly executed one from another. There wasn't much more to it.Can't believe the biggest play in Dota(2) history isn't the play of the year. That play decided the game in the biggest tournament of the year. The Rosh play was cool, but it was first blood, nothing special. There were soo many amazing plays at TI2 that were way better than that (wolves blocking panda, stealing panda ult to stop BH). The Roshan bait was something brand new that could have been done in the entire history of competitive Dota but really never has that I can remember. | ||
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Unleashing
Denmark14978 Posts
On January 16 2013 02:55 iYiYi wrote: Most charismatic team/player? Really? Looks like you went out of your way to give navi some dumb awards. The rest is good though How is that going out of their way? Did you miss the whole point where the crowd went wild cheering and chanting na'vi? Or the part where Dendi is the biggest fan-favourite in the scene? They're well justified awards, and seeing that they'll return next year(Possibly) there's a whole year for another team to claim it. To me i could easily see lgd.int take it next year. + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://cs6283.userapi.com/u5802764/docs/1b78ae05859c/lgd.gif) | ||
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drooL
United Kingdom2108 Posts
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aendi
Germany43 Posts
also, can someone elaborate on what "NaVis juggernaut counter" is in detail? | ||
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fluidin
Singapore1084 Posts
On January 16 2013 02:57 teapoted wrote: So what do you think it's missing? Before TI2 there was SL, DHS, and a bunch of online events. What exactly from those tournaments is worthy of an award? You could argue that there are a lot more new-comers that should be considered, but even then the story of Bulldog playing stand-in after pubbing with Na'Vi, or Envy with his post here on TL to winning DH. Those are still bigger stories. The dominance of Na'Vi in early 2012 and Zenith mid 2012 I guess. I mean, yeah sure, most were online tournaments, but considering how they dominated a huge part of 2012 and no credit was given, at all? You could argue that was before the Chinese peaked into their current form, but then that isn't indicative of the whole year, is it? And kellymilking is obviously going to be biased, guys. No need to be surprised. I like how tasteless her "China farmer" remark is though. | ||
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SnowandLights
United Kingdom50 Posts
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LawLai
Germany9 Posts
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