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herMan
Profile Joined November 2010
Japan2057 Posts
December 19 2012 08:10 GMT
#81
It's about time anyone gave monchi any credit for his accomplishments. Hell I don't even play protoss and it hurts to see everyone ignoring this guy starting way back when he defeated Mvp.
k3n705
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada134 Posts
December 19 2012 08:15 GMT
#82
On December 19 2012 05:33 AzBozz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2012 05:24 theException wrote:
On December 19 2012 04:58 autoexec wrote:
I just want to see TLO smash Cloud

I think we all do...

im rooting for cloud sorry mate :D

And so marks the first time I root for Zerg..
yoshi7319
Profile Joined December 2011
76 Posts
December 19 2012 09:08 GMT
#83
On December 19 2012 09:33 Whatson wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2012 09:07 Tppz! wrote:
[ I'm getting annoyed by writters not to acknowledge how good GoOdy was. He was far ahead of most players in a lot of things. He beat Nestea when Koreans where waaaaaay better than foreigners. He had a number on every Zerg in the world as long as it hadnt been Nerchio (or now Hyun). After the queen patch though everything went downhill.


GoOdy with his 25 APM one of the best TvZ in the world? ROFL



THAT`S exactly what he´s talking about. APMfetishists and supplyblockcounters thinking they can
make fun of GoOdy who´d wipe the floor with any of them - ok, his results have not been massive lately, but isn´t he even a better player because he delivers despite his...handicaps? it´s a strategygame after all, and not the click-o-lympics.
He probably won´t make it too far into the tournament, but with all these people around I wish him even more luck!
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33627 Posts
December 19 2012 09:34 GMT
#84
On December 19 2012 17:10 herMan wrote:
It's about time anyone gave monchi any credit for his accomplishments. Hell I don't even play protoss and it hurts to see everyone ignoring this guy starting way back when he defeated Mvp.


*pat pat*
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Thurken
Profile Joined September 2011
961 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-19 10:29:53
December 19 2012 09:51 GMT
#85
On December 19 2012 05:23 theException wrote:
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On December 19 2012 04:36 krisss wrote:
The most important for me would be that EVERY ZvP and ZvT will be casted by PROs only.
Because the thing that bugs me the most by the current casters is that they simply ignore the zerg power atm. They treat every ZvP like its 50% win chance for everyone. And if the Zerg player wins, its because the P did major mistakes. Same goes for ZvT. Im sick of that kind of reasoning by the casters.

Fact is that at the moment its incredibly hard for P and T to beat Z. Its frusttrating, you just have to make verything perfect.I want PROs to express their feelings about that, talking about how they feel when they play. I dont want to hear for the standard casters "Oh, the Protoss should have attacked EXACTLY at 12:35, then the Zerg was at his weakest". Thats too simple.

Am I missing something? I thought all recent statistics suggested ZvP was balanced (even Toss favoured)


Have you heard of the sad zealot club?
Protosses are the most enclined whinners of this game.
- They win most tournaments (7 of the last 13) but say it's because of some players.
- They win more matches versus Zergs overall in most recent statistical analysis but say it is because of some unit or some strategy.
- They won the most money out of tournaments this year but they'll say it's because of this or that...

They are incredible

+ Show Spoiler +
Just look at this thread for example:
1) Someone facing evidence:
"You're perhaps right, but in other circumstances ..." by neptunusfisk
2) A lambda whinner:
"treat every ZvP like its 50% win chance for everyone. [...] Fact is that at the moment its incredibly hard for P and T to beat Z" by krisss
-> facts say no, then :
"Just because win rates are even doesn't mean that the races are in balance." by Targe
3) Last but not least:
"If you take out the Immortal-Sentry all-in [...] Part of this is probably form (only Hero and Parting playing well as Toss atm, vs lots of hot Zergs), but the matchup looks imbalanced to many (I still almost always win PvZ tho [...]" by althaz
->So, you win more matches, protosses win more matches/money/tournaments overall, but since more people whine about zergs versus protoss than the other way around, the gossip must be right and not the facts. Nice logic!
(note: I'm not saying toss is imba)
NexCa
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany954 Posts
December 19 2012 09:57 GMT
#86
On December 19 2012 04:56 creamyturtle wrote:
no USA players


For a good reason, don't know when an American won a tournament the last time
Best Protoss Player 4 ever - Bisu[Shield] || http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=326242 || THIS IS WHERE WE STAND, THIS IS WHERE THEY FALL, GIVE THEM NOTHING, BUT TAKE FROM THEM EVERYTHING ! || SKT FIGHTIIING
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
December 19 2012 09:58 GMT
#87
On December 19 2012 18:57 NexCa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2012 04:56 creamyturtle wrote:
no USA players


For a good reason, don't know when an American won a tournament the last time

WCS NA :p
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
RaelSan
Profile Joined February 2012
Belgium223 Posts
December 19 2012 10:20 GMT
#88
On December 19 2012 18:57 NexCa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2012 04:56 creamyturtle wrote:
no USA players


For a good reason, don't know when an American won a tournament the last time



Goswer should have been invited, he has great potential, Llewelys has a really good nose to smell talents ( Huk, Stephano,.. )
I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it
Thurken
Profile Joined September 2011
961 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-19 10:51:41
December 19 2012 10:34 GMT
#89
On December 19 2012 18:57 NexCa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2012 04:56 creamyturtle wrote:
no USA players


For a good reason, don't know when an American won a tournament the last time

This is HSC. Not the best players in the game are invited. I guess NA fan favorites have declined the invite.
NexCa
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany954 Posts
December 19 2012 10:58 GMT
#90
On December 19 2012 18:58 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2012 18:57 NexCa wrote:
On December 19 2012 04:56 creamyturtle wrote:
no USA players


For a good reason, don't know when an American won a tournament the last time

WCS NA :p


xD

haha, I just lol'ed :D
Best Protoss Player 4 ever - Bisu[Shield] || http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=326242 || THIS IS WHERE WE STAND, THIS IS WHERE THEY FALL, GIVE THEM NOTHING, BUT TAKE FROM THEM EVERYTHING ! || SKT FIGHTIIING
Kazil
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany566 Posts
December 19 2012 11:19 GMT
#91
On December 19 2012 09:33 Whatson wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2012 09:07 Tppz! wrote:
On that note, we bring you the most amusing stat of the group: GoOdy is 6 – 7 against Stephano all time. In fact, he even won their last meeting at Battle in Berlin. To this day, we're not entirely sure how that happened, but the world is a better place because of it. GoOdy fans, feel free to ignore the cries of "but that was over a year ago!" coming from the Stephano fans, and make sure to remind everyone that the Panzer General has the Frenchman's number.

It's easy: GoOdy had one of the best TvZ and Stephano was always bad with his Ling/Ultra vs Mech players. I'm getting annoyed by writters not to acknowledge how good GoOdy was. He was far ahead of most players in a lot of things. He beat Nestea when Koreans where waaaaaay better than foreigners. He had a number on every Zerg in the world as long as it hadnt been Nerchio (or now Hyun). After the queen patch though everything went downhill.

on another note:
gogo Carlo smash TLO!

GoOdy with his 25 APM one of the best TvZ in the world? ROFL


Strategy & decision making >>>> APM.
"SCVs build faster if you queue them up." - Goody (to ClouD at HSC4)
Mahanaim
Profile Joined December 2012
Korea (South)1002 Posts
December 19 2012 11:47 GMT
#92
Bye bye 문통수
Celebrating Starcraft since... a long time ago.
TumNarDok
Profile Joined December 2011
Germany854 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-19 12:19:13
December 19 2012 12:10 GMT
#93
On December 19 2012 18:58 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2012 18:57 NexCa wrote:
On December 19 2012 04:56 creamyturtle wrote:
no USA players


For a good reason, don't know when an American won a tournament the last time

WCS NA :p


Sorry winner was a Canadian ;-)

Edit for opterown-
I was nitpicking because creamyturtle mentioned USA specifically.
Now i just looked up the tournament results on liquipedia for actual US wins.. ouchies.
[F_]aths
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany3947 Posts
December 19 2012 12:11 GMT
#94
Xlord 5:0 gogo!!
You don't choose to play zerg. The zerg choose you.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
December 19 2012 12:11 GMT
#95
On December 19 2012 21:10 TumNarDok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2012 18:58 opterown wrote:
On December 19 2012 18:57 NexCa wrote:
On December 19 2012 04:56 creamyturtle wrote:
no USA players


For a good reason, don't know when an American won a tournament the last time

WCS NA :p


Sorry winner was a Canadian ;-)

"american" can be used to refer to a person from "north america" too ~
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
nabresrotciv
Profile Joined September 2012
United Kingdom32 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-19 12:16:42
December 19 2012 12:15 GMT
#96
I'm still waiting for XlorD to acomplish what he said.
gg
ichnaschekot
Profile Joined January 2011
380 Posts
December 19 2012 12:16 GMT
#97
It's Looping Louie
nabresrotciv
Profile Joined September 2012
United Kingdom32 Posts
December 19 2012 12:16 GMT
#98
If they don't change something(nerf), they'll get leenock and some other zergs alot of money.
gg
Megabuster123
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada1837 Posts
December 19 2012 12:20 GMT
#99
On December 19 2012 21:11 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2012 21:10 TumNarDok wrote:
On December 19 2012 18:58 opterown wrote:
On December 19 2012 18:57 NexCa wrote:
On December 19 2012 04:56 creamyturtle wrote:
no USA players


For a good reason, don't know when an American won a tournament the last time

WCS NA :p


Sorry winner was a Canadian ;-)

"american" can be used to refer to a person from "north america" too ~

Not in North America.
Zyzz12
Profile Joined March 2012
Germany135 Posts
December 19 2012 12:39 GMT
#100
On December 19 2012 21:20 Megabuster123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2012 21:11 opterown wrote:
On December 19 2012 21:10 TumNarDok wrote:
On December 19 2012 18:58 opterown wrote:
On December 19 2012 18:57 NexCa wrote:
On December 19 2012 04:56 creamyturtle wrote:
no USA players


For a good reason, don't know when an American won a tournament the last time

WCS NA :p


Sorry winner was a Canadian ;-)

"american" can be used to refer to a person from "north america" too ~

Not in North America.


And not if the first person said USA.
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