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Power Rank - WCS Europe Edition - Page 10

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Holloworb
Profile Joined November 2011
Norway345 Posts
September 13 2012 19:59 GMT
#181
Go Ret and Noticimus! :D
KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
September 13 2012 20:03 GMT
#182
On September 13 2012 23:03 Nerchio wrote:
I think i am way too high in this rank


no, youre not.

Seiplo slightly too high
Lowely slightly too low
Naama too high
Vortix and SortOf slightly too high

well ranked though, wouldnt expect anything else from monk

DiaBoLuS ** Sc2 - Protoss: 16x GM | Dota2 - Offlane Immortal | Wc3 - Undead decent level | Diablo nerd | Chess / Magnus fanboy | BVB | Agnostic***
ACrow
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6583 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-13 20:11:23
September 13 2012 20:07 GMT
#183

Given the chaotic state of the monarchy in the Game of Thrones/Song of Ice and Fire series, we're totally okay with throwing yet another contender into the ring for the title of "King of North."

I call noobs! There is only one House claiming King in the North, the other Houses are vying for the Iron Throne / the crown of the seven kingdoms. Amateurs
Great write up. I give Stephano a 70% chance to take it all, there aren't many outside of Korea who can challenge him.
Get off my lawn, young punks
TheHova
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United Kingdom2612 Posts
September 13 2012 20:16 GMT
#184
How can you dismiss Grubby's entire PvP as a coin flip and his PvT as 'deathball'. He has some of the sexiest PvT there is. Never heard of Grubby storms? Seriously, i always like these things but i thought the whole paragraph on Grubby was a bit silly. Suggesting he only has one gimmicky way of winning every match up when he's quite the opposite of that type of player.
Salomonster
Profile Joined August 2012
Sweden67 Posts
September 13 2012 20:17 GMT
#185
I think what speaks for Stephano more than anything is the fact that Vortix, Sortof and Nercio is all on the top half and 2 of them will be sent to LB by the end of round 2. Even Ret and Bly are up there. Looking at the line up for this tournament it looks like it could be really zerg dominated, but looking at the brackets im not so sure as some of the strongest zergs will be in LB quite early, leaving stephano in what looks like quite a zerg free bottom half.
I don't really see Darkforce/Diktomini getting past Happy/Lucifron/Titan and Socke leaving probably JonnyRecco as his biggest threat before WB finals.
twitch.tv/salomonster
Nimion
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany2 Posts
September 13 2012 20:28 GMT
#186
It's a travesty that Germany has four invites to this event when countries like Ukraine are stuck with two.

Sorry but this is an absolute no-go to say, either if it may be true or not. It is one big event for the SC2 European scene and everyone who is qualified deserves to be there.

Feel free to flame me for this but I think sentence like these destroy a lot what other games tried to established over years.
Hakuna Matata
Felix_
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany59 Posts
September 13 2012 20:50 GMT
#187
Krass just joined WinFakt!
ThePhan2m
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Norway2750 Posts
September 13 2012 20:56 GMT
#188
Ziktomini, Nightend and Bly is too low imo.
Demuslim hasnt shown anything and Babyknight, whats up with him placing so high??
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10852 Posts
September 13 2012 20:57 GMT
#189
On September 14 2012 05:28 Nimion wrote:
It's a travesty that Germany has four invites to this event when countries like Ukraine are stuck with two.

Sorry but this is an absolute no-go to say, either if it may be true or not. It is one big event for the SC2 European scene and everyone who is qualified deserves to be there.

Feel free to flame me for this but I think sentence like these destroy a lot what other games tried to established over years.



I think/hope you misunderstood him?

That germany has 4 slots and others, with arguably better players, have less is tasting a bit sour.
ajxPurpleRain
Profile Joined July 2012
United States87 Posts
September 13 2012 20:59 GMT
#190
Great article. One quibble about analysis: What are these Stephano physical meltdowns your refer to? I understand the guy likes to have a good time and I wouldn't be surprised if nonsense displayed by his infamous IPL 4 "interview" hurts his gameplay the next morning, but do we really have data on meltdown-to-loss? I mean (like say, MVP, who also is sometimes accused of looking "bad") Stephano is a relentless and abusive metagamer. I think it would be easier to attribute Stephano's losses to gameplay aspects: overgreediness (Mana, dreamhack) or building counterattack units which never got to counterattack (OZ, the NYC arena) which didn't pay off. Stephano looks so good because he makes so many of the right assumptions. When he makes the wrong ones, he's just a Starcraft player. Perhaps you can argue that he makes bad decisions after these "meltdowns," but I'm not convinced. I just would rather attribute wins and losses to something regarding gameplay instead of assuming something ad hominem and sort of mystical. Besides, after that awful BlueTea/Destiny scandal, are we really supposed to believe that Stephano is the only SC player partying during big events?
Only want to see you /dancing in the PurpleRain.
ArchDC
Profile Joined May 2011
Malaysia1996 Posts
September 13 2012 21:06 GMT
#191
AWESOME WRITEUP. Look forward to the performance and results!!
Debian
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada95 Posts
September 13 2012 21:15 GMT
#192
Demuslim's ranking is too low. Hell, the fact that he's behind JR is weird since he beat him at WCS (at a time where he was struggling vs zergs).
Sprouter
Profile Joined December 2009
United States1724 Posts
September 13 2012 21:17 GMT
#193
(T)ThorZaIN the only terran past the (P)Grubby line. FIGHTING !!!
dog8
Profile Joined August 2012
80 Posts
September 13 2012 21:24 GMT
#194
On September 14 2012 06:15 Debian wrote:
Demuslim's ranking is too low. Hell, the fact that he's behind JR is weird since he beat him at WCS (at a time where he was struggling vs zergs).


You also forgot to mention that JONNYRECCO also beat demuslim also at the WCS dont forget
ampson
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2355 Posts
September 13 2012 21:25 GMT
#195
Why is Stephano in WCS Europe? I thought Americans couldn't compete.
dog8
Profile Joined August 2012
80 Posts
September 13 2012 21:28 GMT
#196
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Dattish
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Sweden6297 Posts
September 13 2012 21:29 GMT
#197
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Yorbon
Profile Joined December 2011
Netherlands4272 Posts
September 13 2012 21:33 GMT
#198
Props for another nice power rank!
I use it not only for reflection on my view certain players, but it also fills my gaps in knowledge of upcoming talents. Keep up the good work!

Never realised how large the difference between the american continent and europe is, to be honest. I'm sad about it really, don't really understand it..
Sapphire.lux
Profile Joined July 2010
Romania2620 Posts
September 13 2012 21:33 GMT
#199
On September 13 2012 23:34 Liquid`Ret wrote:
this article makes no sense; look at my finishes in 2012

ro4 iem sao paulo, ro4 dreamhack stockholm, ro8 hsc, ro16 dreamhack summer, ro4 nasl finals

edit: i dont disagree with my placement or have a strong opinion about it, but comparing me to slivko like that is silly if you look at finishes

Ohh...come on man, don't be so modest, you deserve it

Head Coach Park: "They should buff tanks!"
IamPryda
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1186 Posts
September 13 2012 21:34 GMT
#200
On September 13 2012 22:46 Skiblet wrote:
Nice rankings although demuslim at rank 15 seems completely off to be honest

When was the last time he has done anything?
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