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[Code S] RO8 Day 1 Recap / Day 2 Preview

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July 11th, 2012 22:47 GMT
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Code S Ro8: Day One Recap


By: Fionn


Results from Live Report Thread by SeeKeR.
+ Show Spoiler [Results] +
Match 1
(P)Seed <Whirlwind> (Z)Symbol
(P)Seed <Antiga Shipyard 1.2> (Z)Symbol
(P)Seed <Metropolis> (Z)Symbol
(P)Seed <Cloud Kingdom> (Z)Symbol
(P)Seed <Daybreak> (Z)Symbol

Match 2
(P)MinChul <Metropolis> (T)TaeJa
(P)MinChul <Cloud Kingdom> (T)TaeJa
(P)MinChul <Atlantis Spaceship> (T)TaeJa
(P)MinChul <Whirlwind> (T)TaeJa
(P)MinChul <Ohana> (T)TaeJa


Seeds of Confidence
– LG-IM's (P)Seed becomes the fifth player in GSL history to come back from a 0 – 2 deficit in a victory over (Z)TSL_Symbol

It looked over. Symbol and his swarms of hydras were running rampant through the rubble of Seed's base and clearing the path towards the royal road. Up 2 – 0 and exuding confidence of a player that looked ready to take a championship, Symbol was living up to the expectations of many. He had held the fort early, macroed up onto four bases, and crushed the Protoss opposition.

To Seed's credit, the first two games had been close, and could have gone differently had a few more factors gone his way. He had kept up with Symbol for the most part, only losing the games after being defeated in the final, climactic battles. Still, Symbol had been the better player in the end, and was very much living up the hype thrust upon him by the community and insiders alike. He was one game away from moving onto the semifinals and getting to player either his best match-up (vs. Byun) or against a player he seemed to have figured out (Nestea).

Then he danced his overseer.

That little show of cockiness, when he was up two games to none, was the moment when everything turned around. Seed, who had been close in the first two games, looked like he got the extra boost he needed from Symbol's taunting and took it to another level. Seed got a hold of Symbol's hydra centric composition and reduced it to ashes, taking the third game in the series with his own manner Nexus as a personal stamp of confidence.

Symbol went for his trademark overlord drops in the next game, but Seed was perfectly prepared. He stuffed all of Symbol's attacks, took down overlord after overlord, and continued to gain more momentum as the game went on. By the time Symbol finally GG'ed out and conceded that the game would go to a deciding fifth map, the royal road candidate was slumped in his booth, appearing like he had already thrown away the series.

Looking visibly shaken, Symbol fell in the fifth and final game, allowing Seed to become the fifth player of all time to come back from a 0 - 2 hole to win a series. He joins MarineKing (vs. MC), MMA (vs. MarineKing), Byun (vs. Bomber), and DongRaeGu (vs. Gumiho) as the only players to perform this difficult feat. Symbol slumped in his booth, crushed underneath the weight of his world collapsing.

A smile on his face and a honey drink in his hand, Seed proved that while he still might still be the biggest underdog in this GSL, he's a player that should never be written off. For Symbol, the hype will inevitably cool down a notch, while questions about how much of his success is due to his race will certainly emerge.


Experience Prevails
– (P)MC makes his first Code S semifinal in over a year after a close fought series against Liquid's (T)TaeJa

For over a year now, we have been asking the same question: Who is going to usurp MC as the Protoss President? Mvp, before magically winning a GSL with damaged wrists, had all but given his throne to MMA. Nestea, even with his amazing Code S consistency, had taken a backseat after DRG's GSL title run and dominance in the international tournament scene. But, with MC, while many Protoss players had tried and even made the finals of the GSL, none had been able to take his seat in the oval office. Now, with a narrow 3 – 2 win over Taeja, MC can start campaigning to extend his stay atop of the Protoss mountain with a third GSL championship.

The series came down to experience and mind games. There were a few long, slugfest games, with Taeja and MC both taking one apiece, but the key was if Taeja would be able to stop MC's wide variety of aggressive builds.

On the third map of Atlantis Spaceship, MC went for a 4 gate and succeeded. Taeja had nothing to stop him after his reaper opener left him painfully low on troops, and put him one game away from getting taken out in the quarterfinals. With Taeja's season on the line, MC dared TaeJa to blink and went for a second straight 4 gate to try and confirm his spot in the semifinals.

Taeja, proving his mettle, was able to deflect the 4 gate the second time around and forced a final game. Things seemed to be going well for TaeJa after he successfully detected MC's warp-prism build, and then sniffed out his colossus follow-up. Forced to move from plan B to plan C, MC appeared to be in a ton of trouble against a Terran opponent who was powering up unopposed. However, an opportunity presented itself to MC when TaeJa decided to sacrifice an army to destroy a Nexus, and MC immediately pounced by committing to fierce counter-attack. MC was able to keep on the pressure until TaeJa cracked for good, and he celebrated his move into the semi-finals with a ceremony in the audience.

It was yet one more statement series for MC, declaring that he was still very much alive while others looked for a successor to the throne. For Taeja, it was his second straight loss in the GSL quarterfinals. With the legends of MarineKing's silver medals, 16Clide, and YuGiOh's reign in Code A preceding him, TaeJa will have to take care that this doesn't become another GSL jinx. He has the talent to make it farther in the GSL, games against veterans like MC will provide valuable experience for the future.

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Code S RO8: Byun vs Nestea Preview


By: Fionn

(T)ByunPrime vs (Z)LG-IMNesTea

Metropolis - Cloud Kingdom - Entombed Valley - Atlantis Spaceship - Whirlwind


  • (T)Byun

    Strengths
    – Shows very intelligent play
    – Has MKP to help with builds for the series
    – His puppy is really cute

    Weaknesses
    – He's playing TvZ
    – Much less experienced than his opponent

    Ideal winning scenario: Plays to his full potential, upsets Nestea and becomes a hero to the Terran race.

    Craziest winning scenario: Gets crushed the first two games. Gerrard comes into the booth and promises if Byun wins three straight, he will buy him a second puppy. Byun destroys Nestea on the next three maps and gets another puppy.
  • (Z)NesTea

    Strengths:
    – The most experienced player in the GSL
    – Great series planning and decision making
    – Created the universe

    Weaknesses
    – Not as consistent as he was in the past
    – May choose to transcend to another plane of existence mid-game.

    Ideal winning scenario: Shows his knowledge of Zerg in an easy 3 - 0 victory.

    Craziest winning scenario: In a moment of benevolence, recreates his game five against sC for the benefit of the viewers.


Byun: The Last Terran

The Terran race had prospered for two years. With their commander Mvp at the helm, they ruled over the GSL. Stacks of cash were wheeled in daily for all the Terran players who were in Code S. Trophies were used as paperweights, and tears were used to fill their pools. For the Zerg and Protoss, everything seemed hopeless.

The world has changed. The once prosperous Terran lands have scorched by colossus fire and covered in roaming overlords. The once mighty commander Mvp lost both wrists in battle and fell early in the GSL war. His faithful right-hand man, MarineKing, took an ultralisk to the knee and succumbed to the new dominance of Zerg and Protoss.

Left and right the Terran players continue to fall. Even the most experienced and talented Terran warriors cannot withstand the new, powerful armies of the Zerg and Protoss races. Supernova, Taeja, Jjakji, MMA, Polt, and the rest weren't able to hold on, getting swallowed up by their opponents.

All looked lost. MC had slain Taeja in the quarterfinals and marched his way to the semifinals. DongRaeGu, Nestea and the rest laughed at the now fallen Terran race and thought it was a pity that there none left to prey upon. A new age had started, with the once powerful and all-conquering Terrans all but wiped out.

Except for one.

One Terran left to take on the unconquerable odds. No, he does not have four championships like Mvp. No, he does not have the millions of fans of MarineKing. The man left to represent the Terran race is unfamiliar, a bit eccentric, and just coming off a suspension due to an innocuous mistake. With only his faithful puppy beside him, he faces the task of preventing the worst season in Terran history. This new hero must brave the terrible maps for his race and take down the best players Protoss and Zerg have to offer.

He is Bleach, Excrement, Byun, GhostKing, Byun. He is the Last Terran.



Alright, from the outside, Byun seems to be screwed. Strong against Terran and Protoss, his weakest match-up by far is against Zerg. He has shown great play in the first two rounds, but that was all due to his mastery of the other two match-ups and good all-in play against Protoss.

By just looking at the maps, even without knowing his Zerg opponent, you have to be worried. The final two maps are the biggest in the pool and could mean certain death for Byun if he doesn't miraculously win three straight games in a row. Even worse, Terran's best map against Zerg, Antiga Shipyard, isn't included in the five maps of this series and puts Byun in an even more terrible predicament.

When you throw in that he is going up against the smartest and most experienced player in Starcraft 2, you have to lower his chances even more. Nestea is on a war path to tie his friend Mvp at four titles, and with the current state of the GSL, this could be the best chance he will ever have at getting his fourth golden badge.

Don't take this the wrong way as Byun is certainly one of the best Terrans in the world and someone who has even more untapped potential that has yet to be seen in the GSL, but it's going to be a miracle if he pulls through this series. Terran is having its worst season in history, Zerg is having its best, and Nestea is eagerly anticipating the chance to take on his teammate Seed in the semifinals before maybe meeting up with one of his three biggest rivals in the final.

Byun is an incredibly underrated, smart player and has shown us new ways to play against Protoss. With MarineKing helping him for this series, there is a chance that two could come up with the strategies needed to take Nestea off his game. It's going to be an uphill battle, but Byun is the last hope for Terran. He might not be perfect, but he could be the hero Terran needs right now.


Nestea: Master of the Universe

Hey, Mr. Chae, Nestea wants his trophy.

Ever since Mvp won his fourth, Nestea has fallen behind in the race to be the most successful Starcraft 2 player on the planet. After beating Losira for his third title and having an unbeaten season exactly a year ago, Nestea has gone through his rough patches. He has gotten past the first few rounds of Code S, but hasn't been able to reach the final four again.

With his 100th official win in the GSL coming this season and getting a reward for his 10th straight Code S season, things are looking good for Nestea entering these quarterfinals. His race has never been stronger. Across from him in the brackets are three of his biggest rivals in DongRaeGu, Naniwa and MC. If he can make it past the faltering Terran race in the quarterfinal and his younger teammate Seed in the semifinals, everything is lining up for Nestea to walk into the biggest finals of his career and win his fourth title.

The maps for his series against Byun couldn't be any better for him and with his wealth of experience in the elimination rounds, only the most creative plans from Byun will be able to take Nestea off his game. Nestea winning is not a lock, seeing as Seed was able to come from behind yesterday against Symbol, but everything is in place for the God of Zerg to make his long awaited return back to the semifinals.

Nestea might not be quite as dominating as he was 2011, but he is still firmly one of the best Zergs in the world. Byun is going to give Nestea his best shot, but he will have to do everything in his power to stop Nestea from clawing his way back to the finals. His obsession for winning in the GSL drives him to be great, and if he can perform to the level everyone is accustomed to seeing out of him, it's hard to bet against the three-time champion.

Overall Outlook and Preidction

Nestea should win. If you take in account how awful even the best Terrans are fairing against Zerg these days in the GSL and GSTL, add in that the maps aren't good for Byun, and the fact that it's mother******* Nestea in the booth playing against the Terran, it's difficult to see how Byun pulls off the miracle.

For Byun to win, two things have to occur. Either Nestea has to play way below average, or Byun has to put on one of the best one day performances we've ever seen in the Mokdong Studios. He was already able to pull out one miracle last year in July against Bomber, coming back from 0 - 2 after Bomber dominated him in the first two games. If Byun has any dream of changing his ID for the 4,457th to OptimusPrime and holding the GSL championship, he's going to be even better than that.

Can he do it? MarineKing and others believe that Byun can reach those heights, but until we actually see those beliefs become reality, you have to choose the man with the championship badges.

Prediction: Nestea 3 - 1 Byun


Code S RO8: NaNiwa vs DongRaeGu Preview


By: Waxangel

(P)Quantic.NaNiwa vs (Z)MvP.DongRaeGu

Whirlwind - Daybreak - Entombed Valley - Ohana - Antiga Shipyard


  • (P)NaNiwa

    Strengths
    – Prepares meticulously for GSL matches
    – Excellent force-field micro

    Weaknesses
    – Sub 50% win rate against Zerg in 2012
    – On a 0 - 6 losing streak against DRG.
    – Yet to face a Zerg opponent in Code S

    Ideal winning scenario: Actually wins

    Craziest winning scenario: Actually wins
  • (Z)DongRaeGu

    Strengths
    – Best player in the world


    Weaknesses
    – Doesn't win every game
    – Minor chance that Genius will ambush him on the way to the studio.

    Ideal winning scenario: Wins 3 - 0 while throwing in manner hatcheries and a BM ceremony

    Craziest winning scenario: Nothing would surprise us.


A Colossal Mismatch?

On paper, this looks like it could be one of the most one-sided matches in GSL history. DongRaeGu is the best Zerg player in the world, if not the best player in the world, no qualifications needed. His ZvP win rate is nearly 70% in 2012, and he achieved that playing mostly elite opposition, with very little foreigner filler. He's shown that he's excellent at every aspect of ZvP, whether it's defending the all-in, punishing the fast third base, or turtling up and winning at hive.

And then we have NaNiwa, who's just above a 40% win rate in PvZ this year, and that's including a considerable number of games played against international players. The last good result NaNiwa achieved against a Code S class Korean Zerg was when he beat (Z)Leenock back in February at MLG Arena, and since then he gone on to drop series to (Z)sLivko, (Z)Nerchio, (Z)LiveZerg, and (Z)DIMAGA. I'm not saying that to disrespect the skill of European Zergs, or suggest that it's a shame to lose to them. I'm just saying that DongRaeGu is better than all those guys, and that it's not a very good sign for NaNiwa heading into this match if he can't beat them. Oh, and here's the gloomy icing on this cake of despair: NaNiwa is 3 – 8 all-time against DongRaeGu, and is presently on a six game losing streak.

Yup, it looks rather glum indeed for NaNiwa and fans of foreign hope. Still, there's no such thing as completely lost cause, and it's worth looking at the few factors that give NaNiwa a chance. After all, even the biggest underdog in GSL history, (P)uRGGanDoL (a master leaguer), managed to steal a map against former Code S player (Z)BBoongBBoong, proving that nothing is completely impossible.


An All-in for Every Occasion

One of the main reasons DongRaeGu has been the best TvZ player in the world for most of his career is because he is by far the best defender. Luckily for NaNiwa and many other Protoss players, the same does not apply when DongRaeGu plays PvZ. While he's still a very good defender – and he had to be to become the best player in the world – he just doesn't have the air of total impenetrability like he does in ZvT. I might have seen DongRaeGu lose to a marauder-hellion all-in once or twice in my dreams, but I've definitely seen him go down to two-stargate, seven-gate, two-immortal push, and the gamut of other Protoss all-ins in major tournaments.

This is great for NaNiwa, and probably his best chance at taking some maps. NaNiwa is a meticulous preparer who can hone builds with the best of players in Code S, and he also has excellent force field micro, a key component to many Protoss timing attacks.


Home Field Advantage

Since I brought up preparation, here's a strange, possibly crazy thought I had: DongRaeGu is better suited to international tournaments, and NaNiwa is better suited to the GSL. Some players hate to be pigeon-holed into being a certain type of player, but it's something you can definitely notice when you look at tournament results. For instance, Mvp won a record-breaking fourth GSL championship, then he went and sucked at HomeStory Cup.

DongRaeGu is great in both the GSL and foreign tournaments as his collection of trophies from around the globe shows, but I think he looks his very strongest when he's at a tournament like MLG. That's where you'll see opponent lining up to get curb-stomped by DRG's transcendent fundamentals - and a lot of the time, fundamentals are all you can rely on in those tournaments.

NaNiwa has also had success in a variety of tournaments, but if you look at how he's done in 2012, he's made the GSL look like his home field. He prepared meticulously for each round, one opponent at a time, didn't let his nerves get the best of him (at least not until he faced Mvp), and it led him to the Ro8 in his first try. Then, he proved it was no fluke by reaching the Ro8 for the second season in a row. Facing entirely Protoss and Terran opponents in the GSL, NaNiwa has looked great. Though he's only had a short time to prepare (just over a week), I still believe that NaNiwa's PvZ will look a lot better after a week of GSL preparation than it has abroad. Though NaNiwa might prefer to play DongRaeGu in front of a crowd of roaring Swedes at DreamHack, he actually has the best chance in DRG's own home country.


Media Watch: DRG's Potential Overconfidence

When you read enough interviews and see enough tweets, you get a feel for how to interpret each player's public comments. (T)Mvp and (Z)NesTea: Take with a grain of salt, as they know how to play the media. MC: He's trying to keep everyone entertained. EG players: Wait, billboards can talk?

Anyway, everyone will have heard the "Whatever I do, I will win" quote from DRG's Ro16 interview. He continued to bluster on twitter after last night's games, tweeting "The semi-final match against MC will be fun!" (he then followed that by asking Genius if he wanted to practice - a double-diss for those familiar with DRG's opinion of Genius' skill).

So far, it's hard to get a good read on what this could mean. Part of me thinks that DRG would know better than to be overconfident, especially after getting eliminated at the speed of light from GSL Season Two, right after he won the Season One championship. Then again, he is 6 - 0 against NaNiwa in recent matches, and it wouldn't be be unreasonable for him to feel the temptation of vanity at this point in his career. Still, if DRG doesn't come with his A game, and shows up in the form that saw him go 1 - 4 to (T)TheStC and (T)TaeJa last season, then there's hope yet for NaNiwa.

Alright, maybe that one was a stretch.


But seriously, DongRaeGu will win

So it's not as bleak as it might appear on paper, but it's still pretty damn bleak. All of the positives points for NaNiwa are based on things that he might be able to do, while DongRaeGu has shown us on multiple occasions that he is a total boss. I don't think anyone rneeds my help predicting this one.

Prediction: DongRaeGu 3 - 1 NaNiwa


















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chaosftw
Profile Joined June 2012
24 Posts
July 11 2012 22:52 GMT
#2
nestea and drg has this.

ill never forget naniwas bm i hate that guy
Olinim
Profile Joined March 2011
4044 Posts
July 11 2012 22:59 GMT
#3
Hoping for byun and DRG, though I kinda doubt byun will make it.
hkf
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Australia354 Posts
July 11 2012 23:02 GMT
#4
Day of zergs!
eMGmoG
Profile Joined March 2012
Switzerland244 Posts
July 11 2012 23:02 GMT
#5
gogo byun, our last terran hope! rooting for naniwa as well, even though I doubt he can kill DRG
pms
Profile Joined April 2008
Poland611 Posts
July 11 2012 23:04 GMT
#6
Goooooooooooo Naniwa!!!
MChrome
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands201 Posts
July 11 2012 23:04 GMT
#7
I'm going to root for Naniwa and bet on the upset. First foreigner to win GSL :>
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Prox
Profile Joined July 2010
Netherlands174 Posts
July 11 2012 23:05 GMT
#8
As much as I want a foreigner to take this, let's be serious for a second. He's facing DRG.

'nuff said.
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johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-11 23:05:52
July 11 2012 23:05 GMT
#9
Lolololol at naniwa's scenarios:


Ideal winning scenario: Actually wins

Craziest winning scenario: Actually wins
Proseat
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Germany5113 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-11 23:09:05
July 11 2012 23:06 GMT
#10
Byun brings his puppy and miraculously wins. Then... NesTea wakes up.

Go DRG! Uphold Jinro's achievement!

Pretty stacked semifinals shaping up: MC, NesTea, DRG -- and well, Seed
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Faceroll52
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden26 Posts
July 11 2012 23:07 GMT
#11
On July 12 2012 07:52 chaosftw wrote:
nestea and drg has this.

ill never forget naniwas bm i hate that guy

It's people like you that make me scratch my head sometimes. :/
Exya
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada54 Posts
July 11 2012 23:07 GMT
#12
DRG !! GOGOGO win GSL :D
Dumboprime
Profile Joined March 2011
985 Posts
July 11 2012 23:09 GMT
#13
Naniwa fighting tomorrow!
R3DT1D3
Profile Joined January 2012
285 Posts
July 11 2012 23:10 GMT
#14
Looks like we're going to get a DRG vs Nestea rematch. Only ZvZ I would even want to watch.
TheVornstar
Profile Joined May 2012
United Kingdom1 Post
July 11 2012 23:11 GMT
#15
NaNiwa is going to get bopped
Wrathsc2
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2025 Posts
July 11 2012 23:11 GMT
#16
please byun save us
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Turboteckel
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands37 Posts
July 11 2012 23:11 GMT
#17
DRG or MC for the whole thing. I don't like Naniwa much eitehr even though he's the best foreigner in the GSL by miles.
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
July 11 2012 23:12 GMT
#18
On July 12 2012 08:11 Turboteckel wrote:
DRG or MC for the whole thing. I don't like Naniwa much eitehr even though he's the best foreigner in the GSL by miles.

considering he's the only one in code s, that's not an unpopular opinion i'd say
LimitSEA
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia9580 Posts
July 11 2012 23:12 GMT
#19
Nestea and DRG to get through, ezpz. I hope.

And god that Seed vs Symbol series yesterday.. Epic. So glad to see the IM Toss finally having a breakout series of sorts.
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LowEloPlayer
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
United States205 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-11 23:19:46
July 11 2012 23:16 GMT
#20
Weaknesses: is playing TvZ. I lol'd

He went 1-4 against STC and TaeJa

Hoping for NesTea > Byun and NaNiwa > DRG.... HOPING, that is.

Predicting NesTea 3-1 Byun and DRG 3-0 NaNiwa

and oh god seeing Symbol lose after being up 2-0 was so heart breaking... I hope he doesn't pull a PartinG/Squirtle and be really freaking good but just never win anything.
hmm... let's think about it
Seeker *
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Where dat snitch at?37003 Posts
July 11 2012 23:18 GMT
#21
LET'S DO THIS GUYS! CODE S GONNA ROCK US TONIGHT!!
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dnld12
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States324 Posts
July 11 2012 23:18 GMT
#22
im not so sure about the write up for DRG. Hero convincingly wiped the floor with DRG's face. Drg is beatable. I think Naniwa has a path to victory somewhere in there.
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SnowStormer
Profile Joined July 2012
Norway275 Posts
July 11 2012 23:20 GMT
#23
I hope NaNiWa and Nestea will advance, cuz foreigners in GSL is awesome and if Nestea and NaNiWa would meet in the finals i would shit my pants outa excitment
"What the flying fuck is happening with the world? This is like, Moon stopped orbiting Earth, and decided to become a free agent instead. Earth wishes Moon a good luck with his/her orbiting endeavours." /u/KapteeniJ
Koerage
Profile Joined April 2012
Netherlands1220 Posts
July 11 2012 23:24 GMT
#24
DGR should win this, but symbol also should've been able to finish seed off so... he hasn't won till the 3rd GG comes out from nani
hoping byun wins so we have better balanced semifinals, but im gonna bet nestea
GuitarBizarre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom332 Posts
July 11 2012 23:27 GMT
#25
On July 12 2012 08:16 LowEloPlayer wrote:
Weaknesses: is playing TvZ. I lol'd

He went 1-4 against STC and TaeJa

Hoping for NesTea > Byun and NaNiwa > DRG.... HOPING, that is.

Predicting NesTea 3-1 Byun and DRG 3-0 NaNiwa

and oh god seeing Symbol lose after being up 2-0 was so heart breaking... I hope he doesn't pull a PartinG/Squirtle and be really freaking good but just never win anything.

I dunno about you, but I don't think Parting or Squirtle have been around long enough to have that reputation. They're still pretty much rising stars, coming off the cusp of their first major breakout showings. The stage they're at now is "The difficult second album", in rock-band terms.
In retrospect, I don't know how you can play StarCraft without swearing. - Eifer
neoghaleon55
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7435 Posts
July 11 2012 23:28 GMT
#26
lol wax may sound like a DRG fan boy in that article...but really, he's just being honest.
moo...for DRG
Grayson Carlyle
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada219 Posts
July 11 2012 23:28 GMT
#27
On July 12 2012 08:18 dnld12 wrote:
im not so sure about the write up for DRG. Hero convincingly wiped the floor with DRG's face. Drg is beatable. I think Naniwa has a path to victory somewhere in there.


If Naniwa pulls off Hero's style instead of Naniwa's typical style (and he's more than capable of adapting, as he doesn't play his "normal" in GSL almost ever) that he uses at MLGs or Dreamhacks to take people out with simple solid play, he is more than capable of taking out DRG. DRG really has to be extra cautious. That said, being a huge DRG fan, I'm hoping DRG wins, but I think this is going to be more of a challenge than he's expecting.
Take what ye can
Sikly
Profile Joined June 2011
United States413 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-11 23:30:19
July 11 2012 23:29 GMT
#28
Pretty sure DRG's cockiness is trying to get into Naniwa's head. Naniwa admitted last season he got very nervous when he had to play MVP(few wouldn't, to be fair) and I think DRG knows that and is trying to make Naniwa think he's already lost.

Unless DRG comes to the booth drunk he isn't losing, no offence to Naniwa but...DRG's the best player on the planet, and if anyone stops him from winning this seasons championship it'll be one incredible feat.

M7Jagger
Profile Joined March 2012
Sweden237 Posts
July 11 2012 23:30 GMT
#29
On July 12 2012 07:52 chaosftw wrote:
nestea and drg has this.

ill never forget naniwas bm i hate that guy


Lol, I don't understand why people got so upset by that probe-rush, the game didn't even matter so what's the point of playing it? And don't tell me it was disrespectfull and all that bullshit, Naniwa is just one of the few people that are bold enough to do what anyone would do but they think of their reputation sp they don't do it.
Brace your're selves. Grammar, nazis are Coming
CursivE
Profile Joined February 2012
Australia317 Posts
July 11 2012 23:38 GMT
#30
JANG MIN CHUL!
MC || HuK || MMA || Squirtle || TLO || Sea || HerO || MarineKing || MVP || NesTea
bokchoi
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Korea (South)9498 Posts
July 11 2012 23:39 GMT
#31
LOL @ the Strengths and Weaknesses of DRG vs NaNiwa. It's true though xD
nam nam
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden4672 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-11 23:44:15
July 11 2012 23:42 GMT
#32
Hopefully Naniwa have worked on his PvZ lately. He seemed to be an upward trend in that matchup a few months ago but have regressed again. I just hope he doesn't get rolled completely and give some entertaining games. I think 3-1 or 3-0 to DRG is pretty likely though. If DRG have an off day or something or just forget to make spores when the inevitable dts come it could be an upset.
ladyumbra
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Canada1699 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-11 23:46:35
July 11 2012 23:46 GMT
#33
Someone needs to parody the last unicorn into the last terran
plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
July 11 2012 23:48 GMT
#34
I think NaNiwa can definitely make the series close, provided he's done nothing but play PvZ the past week. Hell, he could even win, although it'd most likely be 3-2 in his favor.
I believe in you NaNiwa!
Yugoslavia will always live on in my heart
JuiceBoxHero
Profile Joined January 2011
117 Posts
July 11 2012 23:49 GMT
#35
"If Byun has any dream of changing his ID for the 4,457th to OptimusPrime and holding the GSL championship, he's going to be even better than that"
Freudian slip? No, its fate. Excrement Flying!!! I mean Fighting!!!
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
July 11 2012 23:51 GMT
#36
i agree with the predictions but hope they're wrong!!

byun!!
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Dirtysocks
Profile Joined August 2011
Czech Republic68 Posts
July 11 2012 23:51 GMT
#37
Naniwa vs Nestea Finals. If this happens Nestea's universe will explode!!!
InoyouS2
Profile Joined December 2011
1005 Posts
July 11 2012 23:55 GMT
#38
Rofl, these writeups are hilarious, especially loved the NesTea jokes.
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AnachronisticAnarchy
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States2957 Posts
July 11 2012 23:58 GMT
#39
As much as it pains me to say this, Naniwa is going to get rolled. Unless Naniwa's strategy involves hiring some goons to hit DRG on the back of the head en route to the GOM studio, DRG will smash him into the ground.

DRG will not get nerves and blow the series.

DRG will not magically and suddenly develop carpal tunnel.

DRG will not lose to several all-ins in a row and certainly will not lose the macro games.

DRG will show Naniwa why he, not MMA, not MVP, not Nestea and not MC, is the best player in the world, and he will do so quickly, decisively and painfully.
"How are you?" "I am fine, because it is not normal to scream in pain."
DuraLot
Profile Joined January 2012
Norway32 Posts
July 12 2012 00:06 GMT
#40
On July 12 2012 07:52 chaosftw wrote:
nestea and drg has this.

ill never forget naniwas bm i hate that guy


People have been banned for less...
neoghaleon55
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7435 Posts
July 12 2012 00:08 GMT
#41
On July 12 2012 08:58 AnachronisticAnarchy wrote:
As much as it pains me to say this, Naniwa is going to get rolled. Unless Naniwa's strategy involves hiring some goons to hit DRG on the back of the head en route to the GOM studio, DRG will smash him into the ground.

DRG will not get nerves and blow the series.

DRG will not magically and suddenly develop carpal tunnel.

DRG will not lose to several all-ins in a row and certainly will not lose the macro games.

DRG will show Naniwa why he, not MMA, not MVP, not Nestea and not MC, is the best player in the world, and he will do so quickly, decisively and painfully.



Are you implying that naniwa needs to be the new tanya harding to win?
moo...for DRG
Aeceus
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom1278 Posts
July 12 2012 00:11 GMT
#42
On July 12 2012 08:58 AnachronisticAnarchy wrote:
As much as it pains me to say this, Naniwa is going to get rolled. Unless Naniwa's strategy involves hiring some goons to hit DRG on the back of the head en route to the GOM studio, DRG will smash him into the ground.

DRG will not get nerves and blow the series.

DRG will not magically and suddenly develop carpal tunnel.

DRG will not lose to several all-ins in a row and certainly will not lose the macro games.

DRG will show Naniwa why he, not MMA, not MVP, not Nestea and not MC, is the best player in the world, and he will do so quickly, decisively and painfully.


Its definately possible for DRG to lose to 3 all ins in a row. Check out the last 3 maps too.
jkang
Profile Joined May 2011
United States404 Posts
July 12 2012 00:12 GMT
#43
today was Protoss day, tomorrow will be Zerg day.
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7241 Posts
July 12 2012 00:12 GMT
#44
This'll just be the test of HOW good Naniwa is when he really prepares, and I mean really prepares.

I think its all too possible that Naniwa wins this, if hes preparing as hard as we all know he is he'll probably have two allins in his sleeve that'll be strong, precise, and highly sharpened.

Either Naniwa wins or he gets annihilated, but I think hes got a chance, we'll just have to see what prep time does for Naniwa.
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
Belha
Profile Joined December 2010
Italy2850 Posts
July 12 2012 00:13 GMT
#45
Very nice read ^^
Chicken gank op
aznball123
Profile Joined February 2012
2759 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-12 00:17:13
July 12 2012 00:16 GMT
#46
haha that picture was gold.. ^^ so perfect
I want DRG to get his 2nd title now that Taeja has been eliminated.
Mmm, what to watch.
Kreb
Profile Joined September 2010
4834 Posts
July 12 2012 00:17 GMT
#47
Predicting Byun and DRG to win!
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
July 12 2012 00:19 GMT
#48
I want Naniwa to shut down DRG so bad.
Gonna be hard but who knows.

If you're reading this Nani, I believe in you.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
Gorilla23
Profile Joined March 2012
United States339 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-12 00:26:23
July 12 2012 00:24 GMT
#49
I'm hoping NaNiWa cheeses/all-ins a good amount. It would be funny to see how people react to that. If the writer is correct about DRG being more vulnerable to early Protoss attacks than Terran, it would also be his best chance to win.
ref4
Profile Joined March 2012
2933 Posts
July 12 2012 00:45 GMT
#50
obvious DRG fanboi is obvious

but I am a DRG fanboi myself <3
Crisco
Profile Joined March 2011
1170 Posts
July 12 2012 00:48 GMT
#51
Naniwa has a good chance. While by a poll of "who do you think will/should win", it would be like 9:1 in favor of DRG, realistically, in like a 100 games it'd probably be like a 6:4 in favor of DRG (okay maybe a 6.5:3.5....). If Naniwa prepares well and with the right people, he might be able to bring the odds closer... the biggest wildcard is how is PvZ is right now. The current Z metagame has drastically affected ZvT but hasn't really put much of a dent in ZvP, which is the biggest plus.

I'm more of a fan of DRG (always have been from the start), but I'm rooting for naniwa as he is a clear underdog.... although

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I'm not sure how I feel about having 3 P's in RO4
Nosferatos
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway783 Posts
July 12 2012 01:01 GMT
#52
I hope Nani wins!

and god Symbol looks so sad.
"Show me the Raven" ~ HMS turns into a mini-nuke, going twice as fast and doing 250 damage over a large area.
Dismay
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1180 Posts
July 12 2012 01:02 GMT
#53
I mean, I'd like for Naniwa to make it further, but it's DRG... and I'm a bigger DRG fan anyway.

I await Nestea's merciless slaughter of Byun with open arms though.
In every age, in every place, the deeds of men remain the same.
Sc2Null
Profile Joined April 2011
United States3754 Posts
July 12 2012 01:18 GMT
#54
These writeups are the best thing i've read all weekend..hands down
The great Spaghetti vs Screwdriver debacle of June '12" - Porcelina
The Final Boss
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1839 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-12 01:25:43
July 12 2012 01:25 GMT
#55
I think that NaNiwa and Byun are great players, but they both have managed to get this far without playing Zergs. I am pretty sure that DongRaeGu will beat NaNiwa, but having not seen Byun's TvZ since he returned I am not sure about NesTea vs Byun. NesTea will almost certainly beat him just because Byun was never particularly good at TvZ and NesTea created the universe, but anything could happen here.

EDIT: Also, keep up these write-ups. They are absolutely great and I love reading them!
Mask DeMasque
Profile Joined February 2012
United States415 Posts
July 12 2012 01:25 GMT
#56
Is the liquibet for tonight's matches not up, or am I just unable to find them?
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
July 12 2012 01:28 GMT
#57
Awesome preview nice to have Fionn back
Chunhyang
Profile Joined December 2011
Bangladesh1389 Posts
July 12 2012 01:33 GMT
#58
For Symbol, the hype will inevitably cool down a notch, while Statements about how much of his success is due to his race will certainly emerge.


Emerged at the very start of his rise.
If you could reason with haters, there would be no haters. YGTMYFT
aRyuujin
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5049 Posts
July 12 2012 01:38 GMT
#59
As much as I'm rooting for Byun and Naniwa, you can't stop gods
can i get my estro logo back pls
Sc2Null
Profile Joined April 2011
United States3754 Posts
July 12 2012 01:47 GMT
#60
the question is: how many immortal-sentry all-ins will we see and will naniwa scout?
The great Spaghetti vs Screwdriver debacle of June '12" - Porcelina
Luke_Payne
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany2 Posts
July 12 2012 01:50 GMT
#61
Actually, i root for Nestea and Naniwa. I think, DRG will probably win, but i cheer for naniwa. In fact, the reason, i believe, naniwa can take this is, DRG lost his last series vs a protoss i think it was at mlg vs socke from germany. Socke is a very underrated player though he is very strong. I dont think, he is better then DRG, but above in the news, you can read, DRG does probably better at events like mlg. If Socke can beat DRG at a mlg, NaNiWa can beat DRG in the GSL.
GG WP
wichenks
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada153 Posts
July 12 2012 01:54 GMT
#62
I do believe Naniwa can win, although there's a fairly good chance that he won't Looking at that picture I felt really bad for Symbol, especially because the Monsieur J ad in the background said "I Hate You" and it was like the ad was looking right at him.

Also this was one of the funniest articles in a while! Good write up :D Can't wait for the games
Sometimes Artosis and I like to have Hot 6ix with each other - Tasteless
LimitSEA
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia9580 Posts
July 12 2012 01:55 GMT
#63
On July 12 2012 10:50 Luke_Payne wrote:
Actually, i root for Nestea and Naniwa. I think, DRG will probably win, but i cheer for naniwa. In fact, the reason, i believe, naniwa can take this is, DRG lost his last series vs a protoss i think it was at mlg vs socke from germany. Socke is a very underrated player though he is very strong. I dont think, he is better then DRG, but above in the news, you can read, DRG does probably better at events like mlg. If Socke can beat DRG at a mlg, NaNiWa can beat DRG in the GSL.
GG WP

DRG's last series vs a Protoss at MLG was the finals vs Alicia which he won.
Long live the King of Wings
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
July 12 2012 01:58 GMT
#64
On July 12 2012 08:28 Grayson Carlyle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2012 08:18 dnld12 wrote:
im not so sure about the write up for DRG. Hero convincingly wiped the floor with DRG's face. Drg is beatable. I think Naniwa has a path to victory somewhere in there.


If Naniwa pulls off Hero's style instead of Naniwa's typical style (and he's more than capable of adapting, as he doesn't play his "normal" in GSL almost ever) that he uses at MLGs or Dreamhacks to take people out with simple solid play, he is more than capable of taking out DRG. DRG really has to be extra cautious. That said, being a huge DRG fan, I'm hoping DRG wins, but I think this is going to be more of a challenge than he's expecting.


It's not easy to copy someones style and just do it under a week(and do it as good as them) it would take a miracle for naniwa to win.
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wozzot
Profile Joined July 2012
United States1227 Posts
July 12 2012 02:00 GMT
#65
Looks like my heart's going out to Naniwa and my liquibet's going to be on DRG. Nestea vs. Nani final is probably never going to happen, but people can dream
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TommyP
Profile Joined December 2011
United States6231 Posts
July 12 2012 02:24 GMT
#66
Really good article. My favorite part was this
Strengths
– Best player in the world


Weaknesses
– Doesn't win every game
– Minor chance that Genius will ambush him on the way to the studio.

Ideal winning scenario: Wins 3 - 0 while throwing in manner hatcheries and a BM ceremony

Craziest winning scenario: Nothing would surprise us.
#TheOneTrueDong
GenesisX
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada4267 Posts
July 12 2012 02:48 GMT
#67
I want DRG to win with the most BM strategy. Fighting!
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Alryk
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States2718 Posts
July 12 2012 02:50 GMT
#68
I WANT Nestea and Naniwa to win.

I even liquibeted on it, because I think if Naniwa gets enough liquibets, the forces that be will let him upset DRG.

But... its DRG. sadface.

(nestea will win)
Team Liquid, IM, ViOlet!
neoghaleon55
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7435 Posts
July 12 2012 03:10 GMT
#69
no amount of practice can prepare naniwa for ....YADONG !!
moo...for DRG
weeties
Profile Joined June 2012
Australia8 Posts
July 12 2012 03:11 GMT
#70
See, you are so good at predicting these things, and these are great write ups, but god I want you to be wrong this time! Just imagine Naniwa's happiness if he did it! Just imagine everyone's happiness! There is no chance at all that I'm missing GSL tonight JUST IN CASE!
LeapofFaith
Profile Joined November 2011
United States446 Posts
July 12 2012 03:20 GMT
#71
Oh poor Symbol
Mobius_1
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2763 Posts
July 12 2012 03:22 GMT
#72
Hydra! What is it good for?
Absolutely nothing!

Presumably what Symbol was thinking after the match.
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Gexs
Profile Joined August 2011
Australia214 Posts
July 12 2012 03:27 GMT
#73
Round of 4 PvZ baby!
In GodLife we trust.
ncsix
Profile Joined February 2012
1370 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-12 03:57:45
July 12 2012 03:53 GMT
#74
ncsix
Profile Joined February 2012
1370 Posts
July 12 2012 03:54 GMT
#75
For whats its worth, I think Symbol had a great run! Didn't think he would make it all the way, and I think this defeat will only make him a far better player next season.

DRG is gonna win.

RaiKageRyu
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada4773 Posts
July 12 2012 05:22 GMT
#76
Ah good ole hype previews.
Someone call down the Thunder?
bourne117
Profile Joined May 2010
United States837 Posts
July 12 2012 05:30 GMT
#77
On July 12 2012 08:58 AnachronisticAnarchy wrote:
DRG will show Naniwa why he, not MMA, not MVP, not Nestea and not MC, is the best player in the world, and he will do so quickly, decisively and painfully.

And then next week MC will show DRG why he is the best player in the world.
Though DRG will crush Naniwa hopefully Byun can make his series with Nestea close to compensate for the one sidedness of the other series.
MC to beat DRG in ro4 and Nestea to beat Seed setting up an epic finals.
QO Feasting
yookstah
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia655 Posts
July 12 2012 05:43 GMT
#78
Very entertaining writeup - love it.

Look forward to watching the games tonight
"I'm saying that you are all the time aggressive. I say to you choose situations to be aggressive and not aggressive. I'm talking it" - Cooller
Hall0wed
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
July 12 2012 05:46 GMT
#79
I hope DRG stacks all his drones ontop of one another and sends them into Naniwa's base and kills him like that.
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Adreme
Profile Joined June 2011
United States5574 Posts
July 12 2012 05:47 GMT
#80
Im honestly not sure which is more unlikely, Byun winning or Naniwa winning. Byun got the worst maps in his worst matchup against a former champ Nestea who isnt exactly bad at ZvT or Naniwa who got okay maps in by far his worst matchup against the best player in the world DRG.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
July 12 2012 05:49 GMT
#81
Hahaha I enjoyed the break down. Go PuppyPrime!
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Balgrog
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States1221 Posts
July 12 2012 05:52 GMT
#82
I love the Nestea profile. #1 zerg in my mind and he is the creator of the universe.
The only way to attack structure is with chaos.
Figgy
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada1788 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-12 05:54:20
July 12 2012 05:54 GMT
#83
On July 12 2012 08:30 M7Jagger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2012 07:52 chaosftw wrote:
nestea and drg has this.

ill never forget naniwas bm i hate that guy


Lol, I don't understand why people got so upset by that probe-rush, the game didn't even matter so what's the point of playing it? And don't tell me it was disrespectfull and all that bullshit, Naniwa is just one of the few people that are bold enough to do what anyone would do but they think of their reputation sp they don't do it.


He also thumbs downed Nestea and called his play terrible in his early games at MLG... and Nestea is pretty much the least BM guy out there there was no reason for it.

But that was a while ago, and Naniwa hasn't been so bad since.
Bug Fixes Fixed an issue where, when facing a SlayerS terran, completing a hatchery would cause a medivac and 8 marines to randomly spawn nearby and attack it.
Figgy
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada1788 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-12 05:57:07
July 12 2012 05:56 GMT
#84
On July 12 2012 09:48 Crisco wrote:
Naniwa has a good chance. While by a poll of "who do you think will/should win", it would be like 9:1 in favor of DRG, realistically, in like a 100 games it'd probably be like a 6:4 in favor of DRG (okay maybe a 6.5:3.5....). If Naniwa prepares well and with the right people, he might be able to bring the odds closer... the biggest wildcard is how is PvZ is right now. The current Z metagame has drastically affected ZvT but hasn't really put much of a dent in ZvP, which is the biggest plus.

I'm more of a fan of DRG (always have been from the start), but I'm rooting for naniwa as he is a clear underdog.... although

+ Show Spoiler +
I'm not sure how I feel about having 3 P's in RO4


I honestly think that DRG-Naniwa in a 100 game match would probably be 5:1 in favor of DRG. I think he has no chance in hell to take more than one game here.

Naniwas PvZ is just nowhere near world class level.
Bug Fixes Fixed an issue where, when facing a SlayerS terran, completing a hatchery would cause a medivac and 8 marines to randomly spawn nearby and attack it.
Heimatloser
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany1494 Posts
July 12 2012 06:41 GMT
#85
i dont care who wins. out of those 4 players, DRG is probably the one i like the least, and that says something.
All what KT currently needs is a Zerg and a second Terran
Sporadic44
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States533 Posts
July 12 2012 06:41 GMT
#86
Byun strengths "his puppy is really cute" truest of true powers. looking forward to watching the games tonight!
"Opportunities multiply as they are seized."
SilverJohnny
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States885 Posts
July 12 2012 06:53 GMT
#87
I can't care less about Nani's BM, or anything else. This is a game of skill and perseverance, and god dammit that swede has both! I hope he can pull a major upset, or failing that at least show some good games.

gogo underdogs, Byun and Naniwa fighting!
also i think you should be able to combine like 5 archons to make a really really shitty oliver stone film - Keanu_Reaver, bw balance genius
Maxtor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom273 Posts
July 12 2012 06:54 GMT
#88
The entire naniwa drg breakdown section had my laughing quite nicely, brilliantly written.
"excrement" a joke I'm not getting or did byun seriously have that ID at some stage?
Acidosis
Profile Joined April 2011
United States172 Posts
July 12 2012 06:56 GMT
#89
so mean to naniwa =(
“The will to win is not nearly as important as the will to prepare to win.” -BK
dragoon
Profile Joined December 2010
United States695 Posts
July 12 2012 06:57 GMT
#90
hopefully byun puts up a good showing, but i like to see nestea do well given his bw background.

naniwa will get mauled by drg but hopefully he puts up some cool games to watch. only game i see him taking are allins or super late game with drg going in at a disadvantage. drg is simply a better player than naniwa
i love you
Corrosive
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3741 Posts
July 12 2012 07:00 GMT
#91
On July 12 2012 15:54 Maxtor wrote:
The entire naniwa drg breakdown section had my laughing quite nicely, brilliantly written.
"excrement" a joke I'm not getting or did byun seriously have that ID at some stage?

His name was actually NEXexcrement. It was a while ago though hahaha
Maruprime.
Krossfire
Profile Joined July 2010
Australia1071 Posts
July 12 2012 07:09 GMT
#92
props on the sick write ups for ro8

hoping DRG and Nestea advance
For the Swarm * DRG *
ShotgunMike
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden241 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-12 07:10:54
July 12 2012 07:10 GMT
#93
If I were to bet money I would say Nestea and DRG. But I really hope Nani will upset!

I don't understand the hate towards Naniwa and him being BM. Isn’t DRG equally BM?
Naniwa is not my favorite player but one has to respect the fact that he is the only foreigner that can make things happen in GSL right now.That's quite the feat (win or lose this game)!

Edit: And thanks for great writeups! Very nice read!
Hot_Bid: "B10" - ThorZain: "BINGO" - Naniwa: "Apologize! ¤%#¤#&¤% Terran IMBA"
daBeeTz
Profile Joined May 2012
United States6 Posts
July 12 2012 07:19 GMT
#94
Gogo NesTea and DRG!
Can I get your picture to prove to all my friends that Angels really do exist?
MarsTheC
Profile Joined June 2012
Hong Kong3 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-12 07:22:27
July 12 2012 07:21 GMT
#95
I dont get why ppl keep saying they wont forget Naniwa bm. And praising DRG when DRG himself bm a lot too.
One guy dont bm now, and one guy is bming, and u choose to like the one who bm a lot now?

I respect DRG because of his play, his play amaze me, but his bm.. I dont like it that much and it turn me down from his great play. But well, he plays good.

I think Nesta win but Byun has a chance. 3-2, 3-1 may be
My brain tell me DRG win 100%, but i want DRG fall, so less bm from him.

CANNOT WAIT FOR THE GAME!!!!!!!!!!!!
MichaelDonovan
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1453 Posts
July 12 2012 07:21 GMT
#96
Honestly, I think you're underrating Naniwa here. Like, foreign biases aside, I think he has a better chance than what you make it seem like. He has managed to upset leenock and nestea and mvp a few times. It's not impossible. If he can compete with genius, he can compete with anyone. I don't know. Things aren't all that bleak, really. It's gonna be hard fought, but I give naniwa at least 30 percent chance of winning. maybe 40/60 on a good day. We'll see.
borny
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
China481 Posts
July 12 2012 07:24 GMT
#97
This write up is excellent!

Please, continue using this format.
Naniwa . July . Morrow . ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Go STARTALE!
Maxtor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom273 Posts
July 12 2012 07:24 GMT
#98
On July 12 2012 16:00 Corrosive wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2012 15:54 Maxtor wrote:
The entire naniwa drg breakdown section had my laughing quite nicely, brilliantly written.
"excrement" a joke I'm not getting or did byun seriously have that ID at some stage?

His name was actually NEXexcrement. It was a while ago though hahaha


Oh wow, I'm quite speechless, I wonder what was the thought process behind that. Anyway thank you :D
Balgrog
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States1221 Posts
July 12 2012 07:25 GMT
#99
Dude pretty rough write up for naniwa.
The only way to attack structure is with chaos.
polyphonyEX
Profile Joined May 2012
United States2539 Posts
July 12 2012 07:32 GMT
#100
But seriously, DongRaeGu will win


oh waxangel, you
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33302 Posts
July 12 2012 07:46 GMT
#101
Cheering for NaNiwa though :O
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Strawburry17
Profile Joined May 2011
Australia130 Posts
July 12 2012 07:48 GMT
#102
There is a wrong information on this article.

MVP is the fourth player that come back from 0-2 to 3-2 victory (vs Ganzi)

It was the GSL Team Ace Invitational finals which held in Busan G-star Bexco convention center
(GSL Season 3 fianl also will be held in Busan city)

It was officially televised match on Gomtv and the prize was $10,000.
(higher than all of the come-back victory mentioned above)

Therefore Seed is the sixth player in GSL history to record that victory.


Thx always to WaxAngel, the Korean named Woo Ghwang hee in New york city.
LG-IMSeed, the Upcoming Protoss Executor.
cronichazel
Profile Joined May 2012
United States81 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-12 07:52:47
July 12 2012 07:52 GMT
#103
As much as I want Naniwa to perform well, and will do better than the TL predictions, DRG should still sneak out with a victory.

NesTea should easily clinch the victory against Byun, however
Chr15t
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark1103 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-12 08:00:04
July 12 2012 07:54 GMT
#104
""The Terran race had prospered for two years. With their commander Mvp at the helm, they ruled over the GSL. Stacks of cash were wheeled in daily for all the Terran players who were in Code S. Trophies were used as paperweights, and tears were used to fill their pools. For the Zerg and Protoss, everything seemed hopeless.

The world has changed. The once prosperous Terran lands have scorched by colossus fire and covered in roaming overlords. The once mighty commander Mvp lost both wrists in battle and fell early in the GSL war. His faithful right-hand man, MarineKing, took an ultralisk to the knee and succumbed to the new dominance of Zerg and Protoss.

Left and right the Terran players continue to fall. Even the most experienced and talented Terran warriors cannot withstand the new, powerful armies of the Zerg and Protoss races. Supernova, Taeja, Jjakji, MMA, Polt, and the rest weren't able to hold on, getting swallowed up by their opponents.

All looked lost. MC had slain Taeja in the quarterfinals and marched his way to the semifinals. DongRaeGu, Nestea and the rest laughed at the now fallen Terran race and thought it was a pity that there none left to prey upon. A new age had started, with the once powerful and all-conquering Terrans all but wiped out.

Except for one.

One Terran left to take on the unconquerable odds. No, he does not have four championships like Mvp. No, he does not have the millions of fans of MarineKing. The man left to represent the Terran race is unfamiliar, a bit eccentric, and just coming off a suspension due to an innocuous mistake. With only his faithful puppy beside him, he faces the task of preventing the worst season in Terran history. This new hero must brave the terrible maps for his race and take down the best players Protoss and Zerg have to offer.

He is Bleach, Excrement, Byun, GhostKing, Byun. He is the Last Terran.""


This is why i Love TL.net ;D
Im thinking of framing this story - Damm im ready for this
Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
kruxey
Profile Joined September 2011
Bulgaria168 Posts
July 12 2012 08:01 GMT
#105
Naniwa fighting!
He can win if DRG underestimates him and starts trying funny stuff(he said in an interview that he can do anything to win so...)
Shebuha
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada1335 Posts
July 12 2012 08:06 GMT
#106
On July 12 2012 08:07 Faceroll52 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2012 07:52 chaosftw wrote:
nestea and drg has this.

ill never forget naniwas bm i hate that guy

It's people like you that make me scratch my head sometimes. :/

Apparently hate isn't a very strong word or he just really doesn't like a little bit o' bm.

I honestly don't know who I want to win in Naniwa vs. DRG!! Love 'em both! I mean, Naniwa is a foreigner, has sick micro, and has to get revenge on DRG. On the other hand, DRG is super cute, makes me laugh, and has done terrible things to Protoss in the past.
ACrow
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6583 Posts
July 12 2012 08:07 GMT
#107
Fionn, you are brilliant and made me laugh, thank you.
"Took an Ultralisk to the knee..." has the potential to be for Terran what the sad Zealot was for Protoss...
Get off my lawn, young punks
Disarmed
Profile Joined April 2012
Austria721 Posts
July 12 2012 08:09 GMT
#108
go nestea .....i dont know why but i keep rooting for this guy ^^ even though he is way less dominant than in the early stages of GSL...i just like him i guess
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
July 12 2012 08:15 GMT
#109
Some of the funniest previews I've ever read, great job ^^
Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-12 08:17:36
July 12 2012 08:16 GMT
#110
Gogo Byun ! I love the storyline of this match. Congrats Fionn, that's one of the best previews I've read so far (this, and also the quick player's recap, it's awesome !).

Makes it a pretty epic story where Terrans are the good guys (haters gonna hate), and Byun is our last hope in these dark times.

Well... I doubt it ends very well for him but still, I hope he does decent.

Oh, and NANIWA GOGOGO. Seriously, I'd love to see DRG losing after such a display of vanity and comments from a lot of pro Koreans "DRG will roflstomp Nani". I still appreciate the guy, so whatever happen, this will be a good Ro4. But please Nani, just make him regret those words, would be funny as hell !
LiquipediaWanderer
YoungTyTy
Profile Joined November 2011
United States801 Posts
July 12 2012 08:22 GMT
#111
Did no one else see the IPL Fight Club at Hot Import Nights recently where Hero won five games against DRG and made him look very vulnerable to timing attacks. Obviously this is a different night and different venue, but I wouldn't say it's unthinkable that he lose if Naniwa prepares some good 2 base immortal pushes and mixes things up a bit. If Naniwa saw those games, I think he might have a good idea of how to take this series.
Any fool can ask more questions than a wise man can answer.
Gotuso
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands733 Posts
July 12 2012 08:32 GMT
#112
Is there a reason I didn't see today's matches on liquidbet? Reading the write-up (excellent article btw) I'm missing out on some easy points
LakseWim
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands202 Posts
July 12 2012 08:38 GMT
#113
Very nice article! I really hope NaniWa will do the impossible and beat DRG
NaNiwa | HerO | MC | Rain | PartinG | sOs
ZerguufOu
Profile Joined December 2011
United States107 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-12 08:41:25
July 12 2012 08:41 GMT
#114
i wouldnt say naniwa is a "heavy underdog". he beat DRG at MLG before.
Arevall
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden1133 Posts
July 12 2012 08:42 GMT
#115
Hope Naniwa can take 1 or 2 games against DRG
Kontys
Profile Joined October 2011
Finland659 Posts
July 12 2012 08:56 GMT
#116
Fact error in the article: MC vs TaeJa on Atlantis Spaceship was NOT a 4 gate attack. It was 4 gate aggression after expansion. This is an old PvT strat long favoured by the likes of WhiteRa on the european server. SaSe also played it in the MLG back in the winter. It started popping up in the GSL a couple of months back, being perhaps most succesfully employed by Naniwa. TaeJa simply didn't have the units and he was also missing bunkers (1 was going up when the push hit).

The second 4 gate was a normal 4 gate all right, albeit without MC cancelling his expansion, which was the weirdest thing ever.
acrimoneyius
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States983 Posts
July 12 2012 09:04 GMT
#117
Haha, really enjoyed the strengths/weaknesses category. I was especially cracking up at the Nestea section.
M7Jagger
Profile Joined March 2012
Sweden237 Posts
July 12 2012 09:38 GMT
#118
Nestea so overrated.
Brace your're selves. Grammar, nazis are Coming
cctv
Profile Joined July 2011
Norway4 Posts
July 12 2012 09:56 GMT
#119
Just had to log in and say that: Epic articles as usual! Keep up the extremly good work writing these! Don't ever stop.
eMGmoG
Profile Joined March 2012
Switzerland244 Posts
July 12 2012 10:20 GMT
#120
byun looking really strong, lets see how his TvP will be.
Goshirn
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Micronesia30 Posts
July 12 2012 10:26 GMT
#121
Really surprised with Byun, ahah please tell me more about how terran can't win :b

Anyway, Naniwa fighting! I'm zerg, I would like if DRG won, but Naniwa is a foreigner and we've got to cheer him up! It would be so amazing if a foreigner won the gsl *.*
I live in micronesia, the great country where micro was born.
xenoZhang
Profile Joined July 2012
China142 Posts
July 12 2012 10:47 GMT
#122
oh i got this, those top zergs pretend to be weak and try to (T)Deny the (Z)ChAnCe to be nerfed
toss is op is op is op ( ̄へ ̄) || Slayers MMA / BOXER / NESTEA / PARTING / DRG / F91 / COMM
FATJESUSONABIKE
Profile Joined November 2011
184 Posts
July 12 2012 10:58 GMT
#123
can't seriously cheer for naniwa, i hope he gets humiliated :-)
and i'm somewhat ashamed that he is the only foreigner able to represent us non-koreans in the gsl.
Darrkhan
Profile Joined February 2012
Finland1236 Posts
July 12 2012 11:02 GMT
#124
On July 12 2012 19:26 Goshirn wrote:
Really surprised with Byun, ahah please tell me more about how terran can't win :b

Anyway, Naniwa fighting! I'm zerg, I would like if DRG won, but Naniwa is a foreigner and we've got to cheer him up! It would be so amazing if a foreigner won the gsl *.*


Terran wins one zerg. Terran imba once again :D

Just kidding.

Really well played by Byun i was quite surprised from his performance. But at the same time imo Nestea did not look Nestea at all. Hitting all banelings to marauders,tanks,thors and losing mutas all the time. Hope he will do better next season.


Sareth
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany1008 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-12 11:41:15
July 12 2012 11:40 GMT
#125
wrong thread, sorry
Goshirn
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Micronesia30 Posts
July 12 2012 12:14 GMT
#126
On July 12 2012 20:02 Darrkhan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2012 19:26 Goshirn wrote:
Really surprised with Byun, ahah please tell me more about how terran can't win :b

Anyway, Naniwa fighting! I'm zerg, I would like if DRG won, but Naniwa is a foreigner and we've got to cheer him up! It would be so amazing if a foreigner won the gsl *.*


Terran wins one zerg. Terran imba once again :D

Just kidding.

Really well played by Byun i was quite surprised from his performance. But at the same time imo Nestea did not look Nestea at all. Hitting all banelings to marauders,tanks,thors and losing mutas all the time. Hope he will do better next season.




yeah it is true, nestea seamed so iced tea *people familiar with the nestea marketing strategy will get it xD*

and yeah xD terran freaking imba! *just kiding mods*

overall I think that when terran finds a way to do early game pressure versus zerg again, the game will be very balanced in terms of win rates and tournament representation (:

I really wished naniwa had won :c so close, god damn it, why did he blink to the top of the roaches, so stupid! the workers were on the back I though he was going to weaken drg's army and then blink back, then he would have been on high ground with drg's army attacking the probes instead of the satlkers, and naniwa would have won that engagement, still drg had that 5th mining so it would still be a hard game, but I think naniwa would find it and then win the game.
I live in micronesia, the great country where micro was born.
Diabulus
Profile Joined February 2011
Bolivia105 Posts
July 12 2012 12:34 GMT
#127
OMG DRG you were cutting it close there man ;S i pulled out my hairs and now i have no more nails.... Youde better FKING win -.-;
" GO PROTOSS!!! "
Gromrojas
Profile Joined November 2011
Costa Rica30 Posts
July 12 2012 13:47 GMT
#128
That last game, NaNiwa... so CLOSE !!!!

He had 3 big chances to win... DongRaeGu got just lucky IMO.

1. The hidden pylon at the beginning.
2. The warp prism going towards DRG's 4th, then stopping for a second to get fungal'ed and killed.
3. The final fight with the probes not able to fight. Although DRG had so many infestors its hard to tell...

If you read this Johan, you ROCK... Looking forward to next season.
Louis8k8
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada285 Posts
July 12 2012 14:32 GMT
#129
Wow @ Byun vs Nestea. That turned out opposite of what I expected, Nestea is so unstable now

The strengths/weaknesses by Fionn are absolutely hilarious, once again.
fishjie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1519 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-12 17:34:05
July 12 2012 17:33 GMT
#130
naniwa is a jerk so rooting for DRG

edit: oh wait the games were already played?

just served DRG wins hooray
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
July 12 2012 20:10 GMT
#131
On July 12 2012 22:47 Gromrojas wrote:
That last game, NaNiwa... so CLOSE !!!!

He had 3 big chances to win... DongRaeGu got just lucky IMO.

1. The hidden pylon at the beginning.
2. The warp prism going towards DRG's 4th, then stopping for a second to get fungal'ed and killed.
3. The final fight with the probes not able to fight. Although DRG had so many infestors its hard to tell...

If you read this Johan, you ROCK... Looking forward to next season.


Lucky? Naniwa made the hidden pylon he was hoping it wouldn't be scouted, he was very desperate by doing that. The warp prism going to the 4th and being caught by DRG is map awarness and even if it scouted the 4th that doesn't mean he would've killed it. The last 2 fights of the game more so the first one, DRG handled the situation perfectly, the 2nd fight didn't matter since naniwa was already dead. It was close if DRG engaged improperly in the main fight he would've lost, and naniwa made some questionable blinks(blinking on the army of drg when there was fungals+roaches)
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testthewest
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany274 Posts
July 12 2012 20:11 GMT
#132
Can anybody read what's on that sign on the Picture of the Night (Brought to you by KiNGxXx)?

I see the big letters reading: "I hate you"
But what is the small letters?
War is not about who is right, but who is left.
GuitarBizarre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom332 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-13 18:45:04
July 12 2012 22:32 GMT
#133
On July 12 2012 19:26 Goshirn wrote:
Really surprised with Byun, ahah please tell me more about how terran can't win :b

Anyway, Naniwa fighting! I'm zerg, I would like if DRG won, but Naniwa is a foreigner and we've got to cheer him up! It would be so amazing if a foreigner won the gsl *.*


Zerg stomps terran consistently for two months, moving from a 2% deficit in Tournament games, to a 10% advantage across 6000 games, matching up exactly with the time period during which queens have been buffed.. Zerg isn't imba.

The last terran in the GSL wins 1 series: TERRAN IS SO OP GUYS BUFF ZERG MAN NESTEA SHOULDN'T HAVE LOST IF THEY WEREN'T IMBA!
In retrospect, I don't know how you can play StarCraft without swearing. - Eifer
Stang117
Profile Joined June 2012
United States4 Posts
July 12 2012 22:47 GMT
#134
strengths for DRG=best player in the world lol lol hahaha
genius has its limits stupidity does not
naastyOne
Profile Joined April 2012
491 Posts
July 13 2012 20:52 GMT
#135
I would love to see Naniwa win.

But in any case, there is no shame in loosing to DRG either, so IMO DRG is under stronger moral pressure, because loosing to Naniwa would be considered a fail for him, while winning would be considered normal.
Infinityunl
Profile Joined December 2011
United States4 Posts
July 16 2012 20:07 GMT
#136
How is TvZ Byun's weakest match up? I checked his TLPD and his TvZ win % is at a monstrous 82.35%.
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