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[GSTL] Round One - Day 6 Recap/Day 7 Preview

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[GSTL] Round One - Day 6 Recap/Day 7 Preview

Text byTL.net ESPORTS
Graphics byPathy
June 4th, 2012 19:49 GMT

Table of Contents






Group B, Day Two
Intro


Team SCV Life vs Fnatic RaidCall
Recap


Team SCV Life vs LG-IM
Preview



Check out the GSTL on Liquipedia



Introduction



The LG-IM-SK trio is complete, and we shall see nine GSL championships worth of players in action together. But not tonight.

SK_MC had to play in NASL's Sunday Showdown just last night, and he might just barely get back in time to play in the GSTL. Seeing as how TaeJa didn't play for the threadbare Team Liquid in the GSTL even though he technically could have after touching down about an hour before the match, it's doubtful whether a team with a wealth of talent like LG-IM will force MC to rush on over.

The match is still bound to be a good one, as the four best players in Polt, Symbol, Nestea, and Mvp are a quartet you'd expect to see the GSL semi-finals.


Recap: TSL vs FnaticRC



by Waxangel


– Symbol unstoppable in 5 – 3 victory for TSL, Moon shows signs of life

Match results from Live Report Thread by opterown.
+ Show Spoiler [Results] +

(Z)Shine <Entombed Valley> (P)NightEnD
(Z)Shine <Ohana> (Z)Moon
(P)Inori <Cloud Kingdom> (Z)Moon
(Z)HyuN <Atlantis Spaceship> (Z)Moon
(Z)Symbol <Whirlwind> (Z)Moon
(Z)Symbol <Daybreak> (P)Oz
(Z)Symbol <Muspelheim> (Z)ByuL
(Z)Symbol <Antiga Shipyard> (T)aLive



Team SCV Life wins 5-3!


Hope was alive for the Zerg race on Monday, as the swarm claimed every single victory in a 5 – 3 series win for Team SCV Life. At the forefront was Symbol, who took down both Oz and aLive as he went on a monstrous 4 – 0 run to end the match. Fans of Warcraft III had plenty to be happy about as well, as the Night Elf legend FnaticRC_Moon made an impressive return to the GSL with three victories. Finally, TSL's Shine chipped in with a victory over FnaticRC's NightEnD in the opening match.

The first game of the night saw (P)FnaticRC_NightEnD make his GomTV studio debut, going up against (Z)TSL_Shine on Entombed Valley. NightEnD opted to play safe and standard in his first match, maxing out on three bases and assembling a formidable deathball. However, Shine was able to continuously deny NightEnD's attempts to take a fourth base and patiently invited his opponent to attack as he continued to build up an economic advantage. After causing NightEnD constant frustration with denied expansions, Shine was finally able to goad him to attack into spines, brood lords, and infestors. It ended up being a suicidal attack, and NightEnD GG'd out after.

That loss brought out FnaticRC's (Z)Moon, who made his first high profile appearance since his lackluster showing at ASUS ROG Assembly Winter. Moon looked like a completely different player since that disappointing outing, and he was able to take three consecutive wins over (Z)Shine, (P)Inori, and (Z)HyuN. Moon's focus on multi-tasking and harassment was particularly effective, and he was able to run circles around his opponents with damaging backdoor attacks.

Down 1 – 3, TSL was forced to send out their first ace card in (Z)Symbol. Symbol was able to dispatch of Moon fairly easily in the first game, making him pay for blind infestor harassment attempts by simply preparing a single overseer at his natural. FnaticRC's two more recent recruits in (P)Oz and (Z)ByuL were up next, but Symbol was able to power through both of them without too much trouble.

Symbol's three wins put TSL back ahead by a score 4 – 3, forcing out (T)aLive as FnaticRC's ace and final player. Unfortunately for aLive, he wasn't able to put up any better resistance than the three players who preceded him, and he was hacked apart by Symbol's good use of infestors, despite the having the map advantage on Antiga Shipyard. With four wins to his name, Symbol completed the 5 – 3 victory for TSL, sending his team on to face LG-IM in the winners' match of the group.


Player of the match: (Z)TSL_Symbol

It wouldn't be much of a stretch to say that Symbol has become a top three Zerg player in the world during the last few months, and he certainly played like it in the series against FnaticRC. aLive and Oz are some of the best players for Terran and Protoss, but Symbol was able to beat them with frightening ease. Should TSL make a deep run in the tournament, Symbol will most certainly be the driving force behind it.


Game of the night: Game Three – Moon vs Inori

The games weren't all that close on the night, and even in the longer games, you always had a fairly decent idea about who was going to win in the end. Moon vs Inori ended up being the most entertainingly of the lot, because at least Moon decided to create a lot of action for the viewers with his constant mutalisk, zergling, and roach run-bys. It was obvious that Inori was going to eventually get worn down to the point where he had to type GG, but Moon made a fairly watchable show of it.

Team SCV Life

LG-IM



by Waxangel


Where They Stand

LG-IM is waaaaay overrated. There, I said it.

Now to explain why.

On paper, the three-headed monster of Mvp, Nestea and MC is absurdly unfair to the rest of the competition. That's nine GSL championships on one team, and the #1, #2 and #3 players in lifetime prize money rankings on one team as well. However, the reality is that they've all been major disappointments in the GSTL.

Let's start off with their gun for hire, SK_MC. MC's overall record in the GSTL is 9 – 6, which is a pretty decent record until you consider that oGs never placed above the halfway line in GSTL with MC as their ace. Here's an interesting stat that might further demonstrate the degree of MC's contributions to the team: MC is 3 – 5 as the last surviving player on his team. Basically, MC's GSTL career topped out at being a luxury rotation player, but he fell way short of being a championship caliber ace that carried his team to victory.

Mvp is similar to MC, coming in with a 10 – 7 record. Surprisingly, he's only been deployed as the team's Ace and final player in a few situations, and most of the time he's come out in the middle of the rotation. In that role, he's been fairly good, but the problem is that he's hardly living up to his superstar billing. Mvp is supposed to be the face of LG-IM, not a player who's getting outperformed by Happy and Yoda.

Nestea is disappointing for a different reason: he doesn't actually give a f*** about the GSTL. Okay, that's a bit harsh, considering I haven't actually asked him his opinion on the GSTL. But the fact remains that he's only ever played in exactly four out of LG-IM's fourteen GSTL matches in history. You have to give Nestea credit for his impactful debut match, where he came out as the team's ace and won them the championship in the inaugural GSTL tournament. However, he's gone 0 – 3 in subsequent appearances, being upset by Alicia, Tails, and Seal in disappointing matches.

Why has this GSL championship trio been so comparatively bad in the GSTL? It could be for a couple of reasons.

First, it's entirely possible that they just didn't care as much. That's not a slight on anyone's character – the fact is that while the GSTL is a fantastically entertaining league for the fans, it hasn't made much headway in terms of becoming a super-prestigious league like the GSL. Just this season, we saw a team drop out and give walkover wins to all their opponents – not exactly a sign of stability and fierce competition. It's perfectly understandable if the three had other competitive priorities, and chose singles competitions with more prize money over the GSTL (the GSTL has a disappointingly low payout).

Second, their styles might not be suited to the GSTL. Maybe in their primes you could have asked them to go out and beat a collection of random players, but that's not who they are now. That's better suited for ladder monsters and mechanically talented players like MKP or ZeNEXLife, who spend hundreds of hours a month swatting away nameless challengers on Battle.Net. The LG-IM trio are masters of laying out plans for multi-game series and preparing for single opponents, and going into a BO1 rapid-fire gauntlet is not their specialty.

All that said, LG-IM is still a very formidable team. Their lack of streaky players makes them less of an all-kill threat than some other teams, but they are a very deep team all around. Mvp and MC at their worst were still solid rotation players, and when you combine them with other such players like Yoda, Losira, and Seed, it's one of the few teams that has no major holes in its one-through-five line-up. Even if the MC-Mvp-Nestea trio plays at its past, disappointing level, LG-IM can still expect a mid-high level finish at least. Also, while it's unlikely that the trio will suddenly get it going in the GSTL, if they can, the sky's the limit.

*****


Though there are still some glaring flaws to fix, TSL looks pretty strong after its most recent period of rebuilding. Depending on how you rate Symbol, he and Polt form possibly THE best one-two punch in the GSTL. Polt has been excellent for all of 2012, and Symbol continues to build up even more steam. He used and abused FnaticRC's aLive and Oz yesterday, and it's hard to see him losing to anyone but the most prepared snipers or GSL championship class players.

The main problem for TSL is that they still don't know who else is supposed to give them wins. None of TSL's supporting cast has been particularly good in the GSTL, with the exception of Revival who has fallen off since looking strong in the summer of 2011. Shine, Inori, and Hyun probably did well enough in practice to deserve their spots in yesterday's match, but they were all disappointing as they were crushed by Moon (who is awesome, admittedly).

It's really a testament to how important star-power is in the GSTL that we can still consider TSL one of the better teams in this tournament. Obviously you want depth as well, but strength in one department can go a long way in making up for a weakness in the other. If the three non-Polt/Symbol players hovered slightly below a .500 win-rate, TSL could probably still make the playoffs.


Players of Interest

LG-IM: (P)Seed, (T)Yoda, (Z)LosirA, (T)Happy

When you take away the top two players and look at the mid-tier players for each team, IM has a pretty strong advantage. Just like Moon did for FnaticRC, any one of Seed, Yoda, Happy, or Losira are liable to three-kill TSL's non-aces. The question is what kind of chance do they stand against Polt and Symbol?

Happy, Yoda, and Seed have looked pretty strong against mid-level competition, but none of them have beat a really good player for a while now. Happy or Yoda could be used to snipe Polt in a TvT, and Seed might have a shot of beating Symbol in his best match-up of PvZ, but it doesn't seem like they have that great a chance.

Losira is the most intriguing possibility of scoring a surprise win over TSL's terrible twosome. While he's fallen into a terrible funk when competing in live tournaments, he's continued to be a really good player in online settings. He's cruised through online qualifiers for multiple tournaments now, taking out several Code S players in the process. He's definitely the most skilled player of the bunch, so it will be interesting to see if he can finally get over his live-tournament jinx.

Team SCV Life: Anyone who can step up

Like I mentioned above, the players in the three non-Polt/Symbol spots don't even have to attain a .500 win rate for TSL to go far in this tournament. All they have to do is make a semi-reasonable contribution (are they the true heirs of the SKT Zerg-line?). The TSL supporting cast went 1 – 3 against FnaticRC yesterday, which turned out to be enough for a victory. If they repeat that performance against LG-IM, then TSL is looking at a loss or a 5 – 4 win at best. It doesn't matter to TSL specifically who gets the wins – they could really use at least two from their back-three if they want a decent shot at victory.


The Aces

LG-IM: (T)Mvp and (Z)NesTea

Despite the fact that Mvp spent the entirety of the previous Code S proving all of his doubters wrong, I'm going to do something extremely unwise and doubt him again. We know that Mvp is incredible in the GSL, with the best series planning, best mind-games, and best composure in the face ridiculous pressure. But all I'm saying is that he hasn't made that translate to similarly awesome GSTL performances yet. Is it so unreasonable to doubt someone who hasn't proven himself in a certain environment? IS IT? In any case, I've prepared a bottle of whiskey to down for when he inevitably beats Symbol and Polt consecutively.

As for Nestea, I'm not entirely certain he will even play. I'm wondering if the LG sponsorship came with the added pressure of having to perform better in team leagues as well. That was the entire idea behind the huge corporate sponsorships of Brood War teams and the shifting of focus from individual leagues to the Proleague: corporations are interested in eSports because they want their names represented by winning teams playing in a prestigious league. In its present state, GSTL doesn't even deserve to hold Proleague's keyboard, but it's still the most prestigious team competition Starcraft II has. It just may be enough to force some more Nestea appearances.


Team SCV Life: (T)Polt and (Z)Symbol

After seeing Symbol stomp through Byul, Moon, aLive and Oz in a monster four-kill, it seems inevitable that LG-IM are going to need either Mvp or Nestea to take him down. While I will never pick Mvp to lose a BO5+ to anyone ever again, best of one is an entirely different story. If Mvp comes in with a sniper attitude and prepares for Symbol on a specific map with a special strategy, then he would obviously be favored. However, that's just not how he's played in the GSTL so far. Instead, he's tried to play like a DongRaeGu, an all-around problem solver who needs to be able to beat any combination of five players on five maps. That's just not playing to his strengths, and Symbol would probably beat an Mvp who came out with a generalized plan.

As for Polt, we're still waiting for him to make an appearance. It was interesting to see TSL save their two best players for last, as opposed to the more common strategy of deploying one of the better players earlier in the line-up. Given the weak performance from the starting three in the previous match, there might be a roster shake-up in the works.


Prediction

LG-IM is the biggest mystery of this GSTL tournament, and it's very hard to predict how they'll do. If the LG sponsorship has changed nothing at all for them, and MC (not present for this match), Mvp, and Nestea continue to treat team tournaments as a secondary priority, then the best they can hope to do is coast to a mid-table finish.


TSL 5 - 4 LG-IM








Writer: Waxangel.
Graphics: Pathy.
Editor: Waxangel.
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Wunder
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom2950 Posts
June 04 2012 19:53 GMT
#2
WOO! TSL hwaiting!
Writer@joonjoewong
DidYuhim
Profile Joined September 2011
Ukraine1905 Posts
June 04 2012 20:10 GMT
#3
TSL hwaiting~~
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
June 04 2012 20:13 GMT
#4
Surprised no mention of Yonghwa. He can't get code A to save his life, but he fares well enough in team leagues.

Either MVP or Nestea will play tonight, but not both. IM wins 5-2 or 5-3.
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
dearyuna
Profile Joined December 2011
United States322 Posts
June 04 2012 20:13 GMT
#5
My brain is going to explode by the end of this season's GSTL.
Go TSL<3
@dearyuna Team SCV Life <3
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
June 04 2012 20:17 GMT
#6
If MC plays for IM, the MC-Losira combo might be enough. I just don't count on Mvp / Nestea in GSTL until I see them.
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
SneakerDead
Profile Joined February 2012
Netherlands16 Posts
June 04 2012 20:21 GMT
#7
MC NESTEA MVP FOR EVAHHHH <3
dnld12
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States324 Posts
June 04 2012 20:23 GMT
#8
LG-IM FIGHTING.

GOGOGOOGO Three Kings GOGOGOO!!!!
When life gives you Stalkers, Get blink.
Olinim
Profile Joined March 2011
4044 Posts
June 04 2012 20:32 GMT
#9
Hoping for IM to win, and I think if they can stop Symbol they will.
Kevan
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden2303 Posts
June 04 2012 21:05 GMT
#10
After reading this I hope, really, that Mvp comes out first and just destroys TSL single-handedly.

I'm not sure of who I'm rooting for though, Symbol and Polt are just awesome but I have always been a fan of Mvp and Losira. I just hope for good games and that the fans and sponsors are happy for the hard work the players put in. Fuck, Korean culture has started to affect me.
SC2, rip in pepperinos
Pazuzu
Profile Joined July 2011
United States632 Posts
June 04 2012 21:07 GMT
#11
Going to be phenomenal series but i agree TSL's gonna take it in the end, calling Polt going on a huge streak
"It is because intuition is sometimes right, that we don't know what to do with it"
Sikly
Profile Joined June 2011
United States413 Posts
June 04 2012 21:16 GMT
#12
Going to go out and keep my word and NOT bet against MVP, MVP makes it happen for LG-IM, regardless of what else happens. So far the entire team seems extremely motivated to win for LG, every interview a IM member gives they say how badly they want to win for LG, and I think that mentality is going to be carried over into the GSTL. They'll be in the finals this season, might not win it, but they'll for sure be in the finals.
Sumahi
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Guam5609 Posts
June 04 2012 21:17 GMT
#13
Go TSL!
Startale <3, ST_July <3, HongUn <3, Savior <3, Gretorp <3, Nada <3, Rainbow <3, Ret <3, Squirtle <3, Bomber <3
Regime
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia185 Posts
June 04 2012 21:23 GMT
#14
moon played so well sucks the rest of the team couldnt pull the win out symbol just outclassed fnacticRC
MetalPanda
Profile Joined April 2012
Canada1152 Posts
June 04 2012 21:45 GMT
#15
I think MC might just kill at least 2 players if he comes on. Yoda and Happy will do the rest of the job.
IM fighting!
omisa
Profile Joined January 2011
United States494 Posts
June 04 2012 21:57 GMT
#16
I believe Yoda and Happy will take this for IM. I just cant count on Mvp or Nestea to be relevant in the team league.

Shouldnt Yoda be listed as under Players of Interest?
\m/
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
June 04 2012 22:01 GMT
#17
The LG-IM trio are masters of laying out plans for multi-game series and preparing for single opponents, and going into a BO1 rapid-fire gauntlet is not their specialty.


Didn't MVP say he only ever prepares for the first game in a BoX?

I won't doubt him again, but it'd be really awesome if TSL managed to win. Symbol is on a tear.
Primadog
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4411 Posts
June 04 2012 22:10 GMT
#18
Has there been any compilation of how teams setup their lineups? Looks potentially useful.
Thank God and gunrun.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-04 22:41:53
June 04 2012 22:40 GMT
#19
I don't understand how this rumor that Mvp is only good when he prepares for a match started, It's getting silly.

On June 05 2012 07:01 StarVe wrote:
Show nested quote +
The LG-IM trio are masters of laying out plans for multi-game series and preparing for single opponents, and going into a BO1 rapid-fire gauntlet is not their specialty.


Didn't MVP say he only ever prepares for the first game in a BoX?

I won't doubt him again, but it'd be really awesome if TSL managed to win. Symbol is on a tear.


YES

we need to sticky this shit on every forum so people stop assuming.
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
June 04 2012 22:45 GMT
#20
I feel as though LG-IM is going to dominate TSL, even though I love TSL as a team I just see LG-IM finally turning up the heat this GSTL season, I expect them to make it far.
Moderatorlickypiddy
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33397 Posts
June 04 2012 22:59 GMT
#21
On June 05 2012 07:40 Dodgin wrote:
I don't understand how this rumor that Mvp is only good when he prepares for a match started, It's getting silly.

Show nested quote +
On June 05 2012 07:01 StarVe wrote:
The LG-IM trio are masters of laying out plans for multi-game series and preparing for single opponents, and going into a BO1 rapid-fire gauntlet is not their specialty.


Didn't MVP say he only ever prepares for the first game in a BoX?

I won't doubt him again, but it'd be really awesome if TSL managed to win. Symbol is on a tear.


YES

we need to sticky this shit on every forum so people stop assuming.


lol face value ;o
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Insane
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States4991 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-06 05:10:51
June 04 2012 23:00 GMT
#22
Hm, MC doesn't even rate player of interest, let alone ace for LG-IM?
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33397 Posts
June 04 2012 23:03 GMT
#23
On June 05 2012 08:00 Insane wrote:
Hm, MC doesn't even rate player of interest, let alone ace for LG-IM?


because I know you should know better, I'm going to warn you for not reading
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
SeaSwift
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Scotland4486 Posts
June 04 2012 23:06 GMT
#24
It says at the top:

On June 05 2012 04:49 TeamLiquid ESPORTS wrote:
SK_MC had to play in NASL's Sunday Showdown just last night, and he might just barely get back in time to play in the GSTL


then it says further down:

On June 05 2012 04:49 TeamLiquid ESPORTS wrote:
MC (not present for this match)


So, uh... is he confirmed to NOT be playing?
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
June 04 2012 23:14 GMT
#25
On June 05 2012 08:06 SeaSwift wrote:
It says at the top:

Show nested quote +
On June 05 2012 04:49 TeamLiquid ESPORTS wrote:
SK_MC had to play in NASL's Sunday Showdown just last night, and he might just barely get back in time to play in the GSTL


then it says further down:

Show nested quote +
On June 05 2012 04:49 TeamLiquid ESPORTS wrote:
MC (not present for this match)


So, uh... is he confirmed to NOT be playing?


No he isn't. He's staying in the states for MLG.
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
June 04 2012 23:24 GMT
#26
On June 05 2012 07:59 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2012 07:40 Dodgin wrote:
I don't understand how this rumor that Mvp is only good when he prepares for a match started, It's getting silly.

On June 05 2012 07:01 StarVe wrote:
The LG-IM trio are masters of laying out plans for multi-game series and preparing for single opponents, and going into a BO1 rapid-fire gauntlet is not their specialty.


Didn't MVP say he only ever prepares for the first game in a BoX?

I won't doubt him again, but it'd be really awesome if TSL managed to win. Symbol is on a tear.


YES

we need to sticky this shit on every forum so people stop assuming.


lol face value ;o


are you trying to say that he lied in the interview? -_-

anyway I don't think IM even needs mvp or MC to beat TSL, they have lots of great players. IM lost 5-6 to Prime in the KSL without using Mvp with Prime using their A team lineup.
shabby
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway6402 Posts
June 04 2012 23:34 GMT
#27
No mention of IMs _terrible_ coaching throughout the previous team leagues? In my opinion some of those calls have been the main reason they haven't performed as well as they should.
Jaedong, Gumibear, Leenock, Byun
Insane
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States4991 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-05 00:39:53
June 04 2012 23:38 GMT
#28
On June 05 2012 08:03 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2012 08:00 Insane wrote:
Hm, MC doesn't even rate player of interest, let alone ace for LG-IM?


because I know you should know better, I'm going to warn you for not reading

I did read the post, and I disagree with the warning :O

By the way, it seems I can just edit out the message about being warned? I'll leave it in, but I always figured that was locked for editing lol. Why does anyone leave in that big message by choice?

e: might as well just edit in my whole PM

OK, so I'm not super concerned about getting a warning over the news, but I do disagree that I just didn't read the news carefully enough.

The news itself says at the top "SK_MC had to play in NASL's Sunday Showdown just last night, and he might just barely get back in time to play in the GSTL". That alone shows that the news editor himself should get warned .
Secondly, the section about the teams talks a lot about the teams and how they're going to do for the season as a whole. If you're talking about the prediction for the SEASON and not just the match, then I don't see why you wouldn't list MC as a player in one of those two categories? It seems weird that the talk about where the teams stand is for the whole season, but the list of important players is only for the one match...
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
June 04 2012 23:54 GMT
#29
I really dont see how IM can lose. They not only have the deeper star power, but easily the deeper mid line-up. TSL doesn't have any consistency past Symbol ( Polt seems to be in a bit of a slump) and I really dont think he can carry them far enough to win. But they can do it, im not doubting their potential.
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
CeriseCherries
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
6170 Posts
June 05 2012 00:51 GMT
#30
MVP comes out and 5-0 TSL.. just to prove everyone wrong
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bropedo
Profile Joined April 2012
United States89 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-05 00:53:39
June 05 2012 00:53 GMT
#31
After seeing symbol toy with his 4 (pretty accomplished) opponents today, I don't think IM can beat TSL in a team league if polt can perform as well
Gogo Terran: MKP ByuN || Toss: Parting Rain || Zerg: Life HyuN
Acidosis
Profile Joined April 2011
United States172 Posts
June 05 2012 00:53 GMT
#32
Losira, I want to believe.
“The will to win is not nearly as important as the will to prepare to win.” -BK
kochanfe
Profile Joined July 2011
Micronesia1338 Posts
June 05 2012 00:57 GMT
#33
TSL has Symbol sooo... they SHOULD win...
"The flame that burns twice as bright burns half as long." - Lao Tzu
Havik_
Profile Joined November 2011
United States5585 Posts
June 05 2012 01:38 GMT
#34
As much as I agree with that preview. I'd be a damn fool to pick against SK-IM. There's no way in Hell that team doesn't get at least top 3. Even if MC, MVP, and Nestea don't play a single game, that team still gets top 3. They're too strong.



IM 5-3.
"An opinion is only as good as the evidence that backs it up."- William O'Malley, S.J.
cronichazel
Profile Joined May 2012
United States81 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-05 02:03:37
June 05 2012 02:01 GMT
#35
Symbol is so awesome, but I wouldn't count NesTea or Mvp out just yet.

Actually, I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that he doesn't have the chops to take down Mvp
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
June 05 2012 02:40 GMT
#36
Depending on how you rate Symbol, he and Polt form possibly THE best one-two punch in the GSTL


Even as a damn hard TSL fanboy, I still think this title need to be given to MKP/Creator.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
GhostLink
Profile Joined January 2011
United States450 Posts
June 05 2012 03:15 GMT
#37
On June 05 2012 09:51 CeriseCherries wrote:
MVP comes out and 5-0 TSL.. just to prove everyone wrong


That. Or you know what the most epic scenario would be? Nestea, coming out as the first player, 4 kills TSL and loses to Symbol. Symbol 4 kills LGIM, and then in the final ace match, loses to Mvp. How good would that be ey
Let a man play chess, and tell him that every pawn is his friend. Let him think both bishops holy. Let him remember happy days in the shadows of his castles. Let him love his queen. Watch him lose them all.
Advantageous
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
China1350 Posts
June 05 2012 03:18 GMT
#38
MC ALL KILL!
"Because I am BossToss" -MC ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ raise your dongers ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ I'm sure that all of my fellow class mates viewed me as the Adonis of the Class of 2015 already. -Xenocider, EG, ieF 2013 Champion.
-niL
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada1131 Posts
June 05 2012 03:22 GMT
#39
Never doubt the heart of the champion(s)!
mnck
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark1518 Posts
June 05 2012 03:26 GMT
#40
Seed and Happy will take the 3 first kills for LG-IM and Mvp will finish off Symbol and Polt!
@Munck
Kkxtrouble
Profile Joined April 2012
Brazil575 Posts
June 05 2012 03:42 GMT
#41
It demends on how symbol plays, if he falls early they're done for.
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Wampaibist
Profile Joined July 2010
United States478 Posts
June 05 2012 04:42 GMT
#42
bold prediction betting KRATOSS WILL FALL
FidoDido
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1292 Posts
June 05 2012 05:31 GMT
#43
I wouldn't doubt LGIMSK this time around in GSTL because they are representing LG now and that motivates all the players to play their best in all the tournaments, team league or not. This will also be the first GSTL where IM is under the LG flag, so I'm pretty sure we are all in for an all-kill from IM or a treat
LGIMSeed FantasyToss~~ Hipster Seed fan before he made Code A
xAshCanaaNx
Profile Joined May 2012
Philippines150 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-05 06:22:27
June 05 2012 06:12 GMT
#44
is there a team currently in the GSTL with only one very good player like in Hwaseung Oz where Jaedong does all the work?
anyways even without MC,Mvp,Nestea LG-IM-SK is still solid with Seed and Happy
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Gexs
Profile Joined August 2011
Australia214 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-05 08:05:03
June 05 2012 07:42 GMT
#45
Nevermind, my bad, GOGOGOGOGO MC! :D (If hes playing. )
In GodLife we trust.
polyphonyEX
Profile Joined May 2012
United States2539 Posts
June 05 2012 08:31 GMT
#46
I have a feeling the writer for IM vs TSL is going to eat their words after tonight.

IM runs circles around TSL, TSL has like what, 2 good players? lol
Stormiii
Profile Joined May 2012
Finland239 Posts
June 05 2012 08:50 GMT
#47
LGIM is way overrated? Who is this writer?
pigtheman
Profile Joined January 2009
United States333 Posts
June 05 2012 10:58 GMT
#48
"Hyun needs a miracle right now, unfortunately hes playing against one right now"
-best quote of the night (:
*rawr* d(^_^d)
Raiquer
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden98 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-05 11:15:17
June 05 2012 11:14 GMT
#49
On June 05 2012 14:31 FidoDido wrote:
I wouldn't doubt LGIMSK this time around in GSTL because they are representing LG now and that motivates all the players to play their best in all the tournaments, team league or not. This will also be the first GSTL where IM is under the LG flag, so I'm pretty sure we are all in for an all-kill from IM or a treat

Losira is up 4-0 over TSL atm. So I think that was a pretty good prediction.
Slayers_Boxer, Mvp, Flash, Fantasy, Nestea, Jinro, Naniwa, Thorzain, Jaedong, DongRaeGu, White-ra, Sase, Haypro, Nada, Tastosis, Day[9], IM and KT Fighting!
polyphonyEX
Profile Joined May 2012
United States2539 Posts
June 05 2012 11:23 GMT
#50
worst prediction ever
robaq
Profile Joined December 2011
Poland186 Posts
June 05 2012 12:27 GMT
#51
GOGOGO TSL, Symbol fighting!
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suddendeathTV
Profile Joined January 2012
Sweden388 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-05 12:56:54
June 05 2012 12:34 GMT
#52
On June 05 2012 20:23 polyphonyEX wrote:
worst prediction ever


Yeah right :p I'm quite amazed of the prediction
Information is everything
Neurosis
Profile Joined October 2010
United States893 Posts
June 05 2012 12:34 GMT
#53
Zerg is pretty good.
Torra
Profile Joined October 2011
Norway469 Posts
June 05 2012 13:01 GMT
#54
Well, that was sad to watch...Symbol is a beast tho. Turns out it was a good prediction after all.
Dingobloo
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia1903 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-05 13:13:32
June 05 2012 13:07 GMT
#55
On June 05 2012 22:01 Torra wrote:
Well, that was sad to watch...Symbol is a beast tho. Turns out it was a good prediction after all.


Great prediction even, every single thing in this news post still applies, zergs are still killin' it this season, Symbol's starpower carried TSL for a second night in a row, MVP and Nestea continue to under-perform in team leagues and LG-IM are overrated because of it (which is easy because everyone was rating them really really high), despite that their roster is still really deep and Losira showed that by almost killing the entire of TSL and showing a really good game against Symbol all the way down the 5-4 score.

GJ Wax.
polyphonyEX
Profile Joined May 2012
United States2539 Posts
June 05 2012 13:37 GMT
#56
well, FML


TSL 5 - 4 LG-IM

Liquid gets it right again.
GodOfWar
Profile Joined December 2011
870 Posts
June 05 2012 13:58 GMT
#57
Clutch prediction, very well done WaxAngel !
Mvp Moon Squirtle
Zion9
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Romania347 Posts
June 05 2012 14:47 GMT
#58
On June 05 2012 20:23 polyphonyEX wrote:
worst prediction ever


appearantly accurate as hell )
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Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
June 05 2012 14:49 GMT
#59
Normally I would be mad to get reverse all killed by someone, but symbol is so good I don't even care.
Aazean
Profile Joined May 2012
Malaysia17 Posts
June 05 2012 15:28 GMT
#60
Lol, shouldn't those messages have been spoilered... but damn... MVP, Nestea, why do you never perform in these =/.

Ohh but regarding the recap, I lol-ed at 'Moon shows signs of life.' xD
furerkip
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States439 Posts
June 05 2012 16:32 GMT
#61
How does he predict the scores so accurately :O!
dragonborn
Profile Joined January 2012
4781 Posts
June 05 2012 16:34 GMT
#62
i think Fionn and Waxangel have +80% win rate in 2012 :O

congrats guys~
neoghaleon55
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7435 Posts
June 05 2012 17:44 GMT
#63
perfect prediction.
Symbol OP!
Nerf Symbol!
moo...for DRG
pallad
Profile Joined September 2010
Poland1958 Posts
June 05 2012 17:49 GMT
#64
Symbol why ... why...
Moon ! <3
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dearyuna
Profile Joined December 2011
United States322 Posts
June 05 2012 18:03 GMT
#65
WaxAngel & Fionn should start investing in stock. They have a knack for this predicting thing.
... and no don't nerf symbol please ):
@dearyuna Team SCV Life <3
crocodile
Profile Joined February 2011
United States615 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-05 18:59:25
June 05 2012 18:56 GMT
#66
On June 05 2012 17:31 polyphonyEX wrote:
I have a feeling the writer for IM vs TSL is going to eat their words after tonight.

IM runs circles around TSL, TSL has like what, 2 good players? lol

On June 05 2012 20:23 polyphonyEX wrote:
worst prediction ever


Want to run that by us again?

On June 05 2012 17:50 Stormiii wrote:
LGIM is way overrated? Who is this writer?

lol

It's one thing to disagree with the prediction, another to call the writer an idiot. You just sound retarded now.
Master League Terran. Huge fan of Quantic Gaming and ROOTDestiny
pewpew444
Profile Joined May 2011
United States121 Posts
June 05 2012 19:16 GMT
#67
Damnnnnnn Wax and Fionn have been hot lately.
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32740 Posts
June 05 2012 19:29 GMT
#68
Amazing streak by Waxangel and Fionn. As long as they don't curse Symbol, I'm cool with this
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
warzag
Profile Joined October 2011
France259 Posts
June 05 2012 21:50 GMT
#69
since the iron squid, symbol is OP !
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