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On April 07 2012 00:52 DarkLordOlli wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2012 00:46 Hakkesshu wrote:On April 07 2012 00:13 DarkLordOlli wrote:
And I bet you didn't see those games. Creator won because he all inned at the perfectly right times. Had he not done that, he would've lost about every single game. So no, that series is the least telling I've seen in a long time.
It did show that Creator's decisionmaking was spot on but HerO made almost no mistakes.
Just look at their second series - game one is back and forth, HerO is ahead so Creator all ins bringing all his probes and barely wins. Game two, HerO destroys his expansion so Creator does a warp prism + blink all in, forcefields the ramp and wins. Game three was a double proxy gate which Creator countered perfectly. So LOL, that series can't tell you anything.
LOL. Are you saying PvP is more than just that? You said Creator's decision making is spot on. What does that say about him? Creator's strength is actually late game. I'm not saying Hero is bad, just that Creator should be on the list, considering that he was Prime's Ace for awhile (and probably still is). Oh absolutely, don't get me wrong, Creator is a beast. Everyone knows that he's Code S caliber and if HuK makes it into the top 20, Creator should too. My argument was a completely different one. One more thing I'm not sure about is Leenock at rank 4... I just don't think his current form supports that. At least Parting should beat him there. About MMA and MKP, you might be right. I haven't seen their previous games, I just know that MKP's weakest matchup has been TvT while MMA is a beast at it. Yeah he got taken out by Puma but any terran in the world can lose TvT to Puma... artosis said it so it must be true.
"Artosis said it so it must be true"
Hahahah, is that a joke or do you really mean it? 
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I also dont agree with the rankings. I think it's a little hard to judge ranks in between such top notch players in such a tight tournament.
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This is probably the hardest tournament for me to predict. Everyone is so good. So many great players. I'll wait until group stage is over to make predictions. lol
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Is the IPL site having problems? The page won't load for me.
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On April 07 2012 00:13 DarkLordOlli wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2012 23:47 opterown wrote:On April 06 2012 23:27 DarkLordOlli wrote:On April 06 2012 23:17 opterown wrote:On April 06 2012 22:48 DarkLordOlli wrote:On April 06 2012 21:48 00Visor wrote:On April 06 2012 20:10 DarkLordOlli wrote:
I don't quite agree with Bomber at #10, otherwise pretty good. I think HerO could easily take higher spots if his nerves wouldn't interfere, I've seen him beat players above him frequently. What makes you think that? The only player he beat in more than just 1 Bo3 was jjakji in the IPL showmatch. He has a losing record against almost everyone above him. Judging by skill Hero should be hardly making the Top20. But I guess he gets a bonus because he knowns foreign tournaments and has performed well under these circumstances. Not really. He beat Oz 2-0 in a best of three recently in Oz' best matchup, he beats every zerg in the world frequently. This includes Leenock and NesTea, if you watch his stream. He's also beaten Jjakji in more than just the one Bo5 and beats everyone on his stream. Judging by skill, HerO should be making top 5. The only thing that keeps him from showing his skill at tournaments are his nerves. If you watch him stream, he beats everybody. If anything, the tournament atmosphere is what keeps him down. He hasn't performed well at all at those compared to what he could do. He also got 6-0'd by creator lol who isn't Code S, so HerO is not top 5 in this Power Ranking. That's PvP for you. I'm not saying he should be top 5 in this ranking. I'm saying he could be if it wasn't for his nerves. As it is, his rank is just fine. Recent results show that MKP won everything... yet MMA hasn't been playing anything. Sure MKP is good but if he happens to meet MMA I'm pretty sure it's lights out for him. If it was PvP coinflip, I'd've expected it to be 3-3 though. But a 6-0 is pretty telling. And I bet you didn't see those games. Creator won because he all inned at the perfectly right times. Had he not done that, he would've lost about every single game. So no, that series is the least telling I've seen in a long time. It did show that Creator's decisionmaking was spot on but HerO made almost no mistakes. Just look at their second series - game one is back and forth, HerO is ahead so Creator all ins bringing all his probes and barely wins. Game two, HerO destroys his expansion so Creator does a warp prism + blink all in, forcefields the ramp and wins. Game three was a double proxy gate which Creator countered perfectly. So LOL, that series can't tell you anything. Show nested quote +On April 06 2012 23:47 Fenrax wrote:
Question from SC2 noob. Wasnt there a recent poll that said that Toss was the best race by far atm? And now the best Toss in the world is 5th and when I look at the top ELO there are no Protoss at all. How does that fit? That's because people like to call imbalances before thinking about ways to counter them.
Saw all the games =]
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On April 06 2012 23:47 opterown wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2012 23:27 DarkLordOlli wrote:On April 06 2012 23:17 opterown wrote:On April 06 2012 22:48 DarkLordOlli wrote:On April 06 2012 21:48 00Visor wrote:On April 06 2012 20:10 DarkLordOlli wrote:
I don't quite agree with Bomber at #10, otherwise pretty good. I think HerO could easily take higher spots if his nerves wouldn't interfere, I've seen him beat players above him frequently. What makes you think that? The only player he beat in more than just 1 Bo3 was jjakji in the IPL showmatch. He has a losing record against almost everyone above him. Judging by skill Hero should be hardly making the Top20. But I guess he gets a bonus because he knowns foreign tournaments and has performed well under these circumstances. Not really. He beat Oz 2-0 in a best of three recently in Oz' best matchup, he beats every zerg in the world frequently. This includes Leenock and NesTea, if you watch his stream. He's also beaten Jjakji in more than just the one Bo5 and beats everyone on his stream. Judging by skill, HerO should be making top 5. The only thing that keeps him from showing his skill at tournaments are his nerves. If you watch him stream, he beats everybody. If anything, the tournament atmosphere is what keeps him down. He hasn't performed well at all at those compared to what he could do. He also got 6-0'd by creator lol who isn't Code S, so HerO is not top 5 in this Power Ranking. That's PvP for you. I'm not saying he should be top 5 in this ranking. I'm saying he could be if it wasn't for his nerves. As it is, his rank is just fine. Recent results show that MKP won everything... yet MMA hasn't been playing anything. Sure MKP is good but if he happens to meet MMA I'm pretty sure it's lights out for him. If it was PvP coinflip, I'd've expected it to be 3-3 though. But a 6-0 is pretty telling.
Yeah I'd agree. That is also the best conjunction on conjunction I'd've ever said I've seen.
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On April 07 2012 02:06 Turboteckel wrote:
Is the IPL site having problems? The page won't load for me.
Same here 
If you guys are having trouble with the stream, just go to the Twitch tv link
http://www.twitch.tv/ignproleague
liking the kpop they have on right now. lol
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.. DRG? NOT ATTENDING?
Thank god it's already more stacked than anything you can imagine.
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haha why would you ever call Leenock better than Nestea?
He was during MLG Providence, and even that was because of his unnaturally good zvt back then.
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