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ElMacedonian
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States79 Posts
April 06 2012 05:41 GMT
#261
On April 06 2012 14:07 Corrosive wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2012 13:38 epicdemic wrote:
On April 06 2012 13:29 trinxified wrote:
Lol at fanboys who think Stephano is higher than Mvp or Nestea.... Stephano won't even qualify for Code S unless it's a direct seed.

Correct me if I'm wrong please. Almost any Code S player right now has more than 50% chance of beating Stephano.


Even Code S players themselves have been saying for more almost a year now that Stephano is playing at Code S level. So excuse me but I'll take their opinion over yours.

Sorry, but Stephano is not Code S level.

It doesn't really matter what Code S players say because they are rarely rude and often overcompliment foreigners, saying that most foreigners are playing on a korean level while the foreign players cannot even qualify or, when they are seeded, win a series. As far as I know, the only Code S level player that Stephano has ever beaten in a live tournament is Polt and marineking (though this wasn't the marineking we know today :D )

um what the heck? stepano not code s level? wow this is news to me, he only destroys massive face at every tourney he goes to, him and former code s champ and current code s player polt are the best and most evenly matched rivalry in the game. i am a huge toss fanboy but i admire skill when i see it, stephano is that level, hos emotions are absent from play and he has the mechanics to beat koreans, theonly thing he lacks and this is from himself is mental stamina to conquer things like open brackets, hence he dosn like mlg that much. but to say the he is not code s worthy? your telling me he cant beat seed or zenio. or half the other awsume players there i find you sir are sadly mistaken
i made my twitter account just so i could follow tastosis
epicdemic
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands137 Posts
April 06 2012 05:47 GMT
#262
On April 06 2012 14:07 Corrosive wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2012 13:38 epicdemic wrote:
On April 06 2012 13:29 trinxified wrote:
Lol at fanboys who think Stephano is higher than Mvp or Nestea.... Stephano won't even qualify for Code S unless it's a direct seed.

Correct me if I'm wrong please. Almost any Code S player right now has more than 50% chance of beating Stephano.


Even Code S players themselves have been saying for more almost a year now that Stephano is playing at Code S level. So excuse me but I'll take their opinion over yours.

Sorry, but Stephano is not Code S level.

It doesn't really matter what Code S players say because they are rarely rude and often overcompliment foreigners, saying that most foreigners are playing on a korean level while the foreign players cannot even qualify or, when they are seeded, win a series. As far as I know, the only Code S level player that Stephano has ever beaten in a live tournament is Polt and marineking (though this wasn't the marineking we know today :D )


Mr Chae disagrees with you in his interview And there are more Koreans beside MKP and polt he has beaten.
Havik_
Profile Joined November 2011
United States5585 Posts
April 06 2012 05:49 GMT
#263
I have no clue who will win. The easy pick is MKP, but there are so many good players. I'm just gonna go with one of my favs...




GO HERO!!!
"An opinion is only as good as the evidence that backs it up."- William O'Malley, S.J.
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
April 06 2012 06:06 GMT
#264
Nestea wins it all. My fanboi heart won't allow anything otherwise.....except for maybe July :p
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
April 06 2012 06:07 GMT
#265
Ugh I had almost forgotten how annoying Stephano fans and haters are. That's the main reason I hate seeing him in any tournament. I hope he makes a quick exit so talk about him will stop. Sad but true, particularly considering he's pretty good.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
April 06 2012 06:14 GMT
#266
On April 06 2012 15:07 mordk wrote:
Ugh I had almost forgotten how annoying Stephano fans and haters are. That's the main reason I hate seeing him in any tournament. I hope he makes a quick exit so talk about him will stop. Sad but true, particularly considering he's pretty good.


The quick exit would cause another storm altogether hahaha. Especially if he takes out, then loses to a Code S player.
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DreamOen
Profile Joined March 2010
Spain1400 Posts
April 06 2012 06:17 GMT
#267
I dont agree with partiying beeing that up, MC deserves a higher place , and MVP as well. MVP will simply destroy everyone at least besides MKP.
Tester | MC | Crank | Flash | Jaedong | MVP
d00p
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
711 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-06 06:28:38
April 06 2012 06:20 GMT
#268
I'm probably the only person here who doesn't want to make love to MKP but even I can't deny he deserves top spot. I don't agree on Jjakji and Leenock being that high up tho.

I'm hoping for some mvp/nestea resurrection action and also GO STEPHANO!
6BiT
Profile Joined December 2011
513 Posts
April 06 2012 06:25 GMT
#269
couple of things


Jjakji at #3 in the power rank... Love it! Scary player indeed. One thing I love about Artosis when he is casting is how he usually reminds of people of the Jjakji vs Leenock Code S final being the best TvZ seen to date in sc2. The only players should be feeling comfortable playing him are Code S terrans with decent/strong TvT. Will be interesting to see how he plays in this kind of environment though (in a far away land, tournament format and such)

Stephano.. to those people saying he isn't Code S level. He has proven time and time again (that when given the opportunity) he has the ability to to hang with Code S players. Who knows if he'd do well in GSL Code S itself, its the toughest sc2 tournament in the world (by a country mile), would be interesting to see how he would do in that kind of tournament though. Having time to practise matchups, prepare for particular opponents.

He has the skill, just not sure he has the discipline to succeed in a GSL type tournament (I think he's happy playing a few hours a day and travelling to different cities/countries and rhomping at weekend long tournaments)
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d00p
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
711 Posts
April 06 2012 06:27 GMT
#270
On April 06 2012 15:07 mordk wrote:
Ugh I had almost forgotten how annoying Stephano fans and haters are. That's the main reason I hate seeing him in any tournament. I hope he makes a quick exit so talk about him will stop. Sad but true, particularly considering he's pretty good.


Well I'm glad you are here acting as the voice of ultimate reason and objectivity. Way to lift yourself on a pedestal. Personally, I hope he goes all the way. He is such a good player and perhaps more importantly, seems like an overall good dude. Gives the best interviews also. Haters are jealous hipster nerds. No one needs them. I agree on that.
Femari
Profile Joined June 2011
United States2900 Posts
April 06 2012 06:41 GMT
#271
huk gonna murder fionn at this rate
Mvp | BoxeR | MarineKing | MC | viOlet | Scarlett | Flash | Bisu | XellOs | Sea | Fantasy | By.Sun
tuho12345
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
4482 Posts
April 06 2012 06:42 GMT
#272
On April 06 2012 15:25 6BiT wrote:
couple of things


Jjakji at #3 in the power rank... Love it! Scary player indeed. One thing I love about Artosis when he is casting is how he usually reminds of people of the Jjakji vs Leenock Code S final being the best TvZ seen to date in sc2. The only players should be feeling comfortable playing him are Code S terrans with decent/strong TvT. Will be interesting to see how he plays in this kind of environment though (in a far away land, tournament format and such)

Stephano.. to those people saying he isn't Code S level. He has proven time and time again (that when given the opportunity) he has the ability to to hang with Code S players. Who knows if he'd do well in GSL Code S itself, its the toughest sc2 tournament in the world (by a country mile), would be interesting to see how he would do in that kind of tournament though. Having time to practise matchups, prepare for particular opponents.

He has the skill, just not sure he has the discipline to succeed in a GSL type tournament (I think he's happy playing a few hours a day and travelling to different cities/countries and rhomping at weekend long tournaments)

No, he isn't code S level until he goes to Korea and proves it.
No doubt.
S_SienZ
Profile Joined September 2011
1878 Posts
April 06 2012 06:42 GMT
#273
Huehuehuehue Oz above HuK again.
-Exalt-
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States972 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-06 06:49:59
April 06 2012 06:46 GMT
#274
i want to hear what huk has to say about this, will be funny. maybe if he places top 4 at a foreign tournament again he will get a spot above 15 next time... maybe.

i think MC needs to be moved down a few spots and huk needs to be raised a few (if not replaced with MC). his (huks) tournament results at foreign tournaments are unquestionably solid.
GMonster
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
686 Posts
April 06 2012 06:50 GMT
#275
LOL @ huk's position haha. Thats amazing.
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Oiseaux
Profile Joined May 2011
United States676 Posts
April 06 2012 06:55 GMT
#276
On April 06 2012 15:42 tuho12345 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2012 15:25 6BiT wrote:
couple of things


Jjakji at #3 in the power rank... Love it! Scary player indeed. One thing I love about Artosis when he is casting is how he usually reminds of people of the Jjakji vs Leenock Code S final being the best TvZ seen to date in sc2. The only players should be feeling comfortable playing him are Code S terrans with decent/strong TvT. Will be interesting to see how he plays in this kind of environment though (in a far away land, tournament format and such)

Stephano.. to those people saying he isn't Code S level. He has proven time and time again (that when given the opportunity) he has the ability to to hang with Code S players. Who knows if he'd do well in GSL Code S itself, its the toughest sc2 tournament in the world (by a country mile), would be interesting to see how he would do in that kind of tournament though. Having time to practise matchups, prepare for particular opponents.

He has the skill, just not sure he has the discipline to succeed in a GSL type tournament (I think he's happy playing a few hours a day and travelling to different cities/countries and rhomping at weekend long tournaments)

No, he isn't code S level until he goes to Korea and proves it.
No doubt.


And he couldn't honestly give less of a shit as he's depositing his tourney winnings in his bank account.

Aside from a few entries (mainly Bomber, but I was never a fan even when he was in his prime), I support these rankings. I do find it amusing in the comments how polarized people seem to be in their opinions on who should be high/low in the list, either on very recent results (July got out of his Code S omg he's definitely top 5) or on what seems to be ancient history (MVP/Nestea so low?!!?! wtf!!?!). The game is still so volatile that both these extremes aren't really good criteria for ranking players. Taking snapshots in terms of the last 2 months or so (as this ranking seems to do) is definitely the way to go about it.
"[S]o be ready to kiss a few donkeys with glued-on paper horns during your unicorn hunt." -Some stupid 4x4 magazine
Gexs
Profile Joined August 2011
Australia214 Posts
April 06 2012 07:00 GMT
#277
Jjakji switches places with MC and you get the true powerrankings
In GodLife we trust.
Femari
Profile Joined June 2011
United States2900 Posts
April 06 2012 07:02 GMT
#278
On April 06 2012 13:38 epicdemic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2012 13:29 trinxified wrote:
Lol at fanboys who think Stephano is higher than Mvp or Nestea.... Stephano won't even qualify for Code S unless it's a direct seed.

Correct me if I'm wrong please. Almost any Code S player right now has more than 50% chance of beating Stephano.


Even Code S players themselves have been saying for more almost a year now that Stephano is playing at Code S level. So excuse me but I'll take their opinion over yours.

Just because players are Code S level doesn't mean they'll be favored against other Code S players.

But Stephano is heavily overrated.
Mvp | BoxeR | MarineKing | MC | viOlet | Scarlett | Flash | Bisu | XellOs | Sea | Fantasy | By.Sun
lordofsoup
Profile Joined January 2012
United States159 Posts
April 06 2012 07:06 GMT
#279
Where is DRG?
NOHUNTERS
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
April 06 2012 07:09 GMT
#280
On April 06 2012 16:06 lordofsoup wrote:
Where is DRG?


At home in Korea harassing Genius to make him more bulgogi while watching IPL4 on the couch.
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
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