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IEM Global Challenge Kiev: Primer

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IEM Global Challenge Kiev: Primer

Text byTL.net ESPORTS
Graphics byMeko
January 19th, 2012 05:37 GMT
  • .01
    Player Guide: Europe
  • .02
    Player Guide: Korea
  • .03
    Player Guide: Other
  • .04
    Podcast: Carmac
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    IEM Kiev on Liquipedia
.01
Player Guide: Europe

by tree.hugger

ua imba.FXO.Strelok
Strelok enters this tournament as a replacement for Beastyqt. That's a shame, not because Strelok is an unworthy player or because I dislike him, but more because Beasty is one of the most underrated and exciting players in the EU scene at the moment, and it would've been quite fun to see how he would do in a group filled with two strong protoss players. With Strelok, there's not a lot that isn't well known about his playstyle. Orthodox and competent, Strelok is most famous for still unsieging all his tanks en-masse despite a good BW background and over a year of losing Sc2 games because of it. Oh well, if he wants to advance in Kiev, he'll really need excellent bio control and decision making, something that has never been his forte. Against NaNiwa, Strelok figures to be overmatched, but TITAN and White-Ra are within reach, if things go his way. Depending on a bunch of factors, like what Strelok has for breakfast, and the position of Mars in the sky, Strelok could go either 2-1, 1-2, or 0-3 here, but nothing guarantees him to advance. The home country advantage might come into play, but overall, a third place finish seems most probable.

[image loading] ROX.KIS.TITAN
I highlighted TITAN in the Year in Review, as one of three players I felt extremely confident about going into 2012. Kiev will be the Russian's first chance to prove me right, and, needless to say, earn some money and fame for himself. The take on his play hasn't changed greatly since New Years, TITAN continues to boast stellar control, but it feels as though his intriguing play has been figured out to a degree, and he no longer has the advantage of being unknown. Against NaNiwa, he actually has a solid chance, PvP is still not a comfortable match-up, even for the best, and TITAN's control can surpass NaNi's. If he cannot defeat his fellow sons of Aiur, then it'll be left to take down Strelok, but here TITAN is at the least even, but probably a slight favorite. His PvT is his best match-up both statistically, and anecdotally, as his upset of SuperNoVa at WCG was probably the surprise of the tournament. Expect TITAN to give good games against everyone and he could certainly manage to pull out two wins. That should be good enough to advance.

ua Tt.White-Ra
What would a foreign tournament be without White-Ra, especially one in Ukraine? Thankfully, we won't have to see the inevitably tragic consequences of that, as the veteran protoss subbed in for d.KiLLeR who had what sounded like one of the worst ever travel experiences ever, and eventually dropped out. That's not good news for the rest of the first group, who were probably looking forward to bashing the jet-lagged and downtrodden Chilean zerg when he arrived. Instead, they get Ukraine's most famous player, who while probably not in fantastic shape, is still a force to be reckoned with, and one with significantly less wear and tear. But while I'm sure he's happy to participate, this is not a simple group for White-Ra. Everyone in this group can beat him, and NaNiwa and TITAN probably should. But a path to victory for Ra is in some scrappy PvP wins, and then beating Strelok. If we've learned anything in Sc2, it's that White-Ra can never be counted out.

[image loading] FnaticMSI.NightEnD
NightEnD still remains something of an unknown, despite a long run of good results, and solid play. Slipping into the tournament at the last minute as a replacement for Diestar (who in turn was a replacement), NightEnD feels like an upgrade. Sometimes, NightEnD can be made to look bad, especially against opponents like Sound in the Homestory Cup, but his performance in last week's Shoutcraft Invitational raised his stock again, as he went toe to toe with ThorZaIN and Stephano, then outplayed DarKFoRcE, only to get ambushed at the last second with some pimpest play action to lose. But nonetheless, NightEnD continues to cement his reputation as a safe and solid player, one of the best protosses in Europe, and a force to be reckoned with in every tournament he enters, even if he only sometimes advances.

Group B is a tough order for each of these players, but there's no reason why NightEnD couldn't advance from it. Against Zenio, he will probably lose, although this being Zenio's first LAN in a while carries with it a lot of uncertainty. Against Kas, whom he beat convincingly at Dreamhack Winter, he is probably a slight underdog or an even bet. The final member of the group is Grubby, whom NightEnD is probably the more likely of the two to win. So why not NightEnD? The Romanian has a habit of finishing one spot below qualification, and so he'll probably find a way to end up third here, but there's absolutely nothing to suggest that he is out of his depth or anything besides a likely candidate to advance.

nl Grubby.Grubby
Ahhh, Grubby. If there's a player in esports who is difficult to predict, it's probably the Dutch protoss. At Homestory Cup, he looked completely alive and a major threat, barely missing the chance to eliminate Sound and make the round of eight. But in the Shoutcraft Invitational, he looked completely clueless, being pummeled by Stephano and Ret and not ever seeming to have an answer for the two top zerg players. At Kiev, he will face another top-calibre zerg in Zenio, a better PvPer than he in NightEnD, and a deadly terran player in Kas. It's hard to imagine things being tougher. But when Grubby comes prepared, he looks just as strong as anyone, and so a good deal of this group might hinge on which Grubby shows up to this tournament. Will it be the confident Grubby of Homestory, or the confused Grubby of Shoutcraft? I have no real insight into that, but it goes to say that the former ought to be favored to advance, and the latter has no chance.

ua Empire.Kas
Everyone knows Kas, but few people really know him too well. Yes, he's a very standard player, yes he plays a ton, and yes, he has trouble making his ladder results into LAN results. But recently, his offline results have been nothing short of spectacular. He currently leads the EU ladder in winning percentage, boasting a scary 81.70% at the time of this writing. He knows everything you can throw at him, and knows how to respond to it with precision. He's in Kiev as the National Champion of Ukraine, an impressive honor in itself, given how many strong players that country has produced. But the wrinkle, as always is his LAN struggles, which continue to persist.

The environment of a LAN is totally different, not just in the nerves or unfamiliarity department, but also in the seriousness with which other players take the games. Everyone brings out their custom game strategies, and Kas has often been ill-prepared to deal with those. This group is not easy; NightEnD won their match easily at Dreamhack, and Zenio is a Korean Code S zerg. That could mean an 0-2 right out of the gate. At his peak, Grubby can beat Kas easily as well. For all of the talent in this group, there's a lot of inconsistency too. Just as there are two Grubby's, there are two of Kas. If he could replicate his offline results here, or ever offline, watch out. But he has never been able to, so while Kas will probably contend here, I'd guess that he'll log one win, and finish below Zenio and a protoss.

de mouz.HasuObs
HasuObs is another player who needs little introduction, as he has been one of the most active Sc2 players since the beta. But for all of that time, Hasu has always felt a little stuck in his ways. He still usually plays the deathball style that was prominent a year ago, and his tactics and mechanics appear pretty stale. He's good at what he does, but it's not particularly interesting, innovative, or likely to produce championships. This group looks like the easiest of the bunch by a wide margin, but that doesn't necessarily promise Hasu any relief. MMA headlines here, and despite all his TvP woes, it's a stretch to see Hasu as anything but fodder for the GSL champ. Pomi in PvP will be a complete crapshoot. The deciding match for Hasu will be his battle against TargA, the enigmatic Norwegian zerg based in Australia. Aggressive early, it's not obvious to me how his style will match-up against a player who is most skilled at surviving until a maxed army. But in terms of experience and results in this group, Hasu is, improbably, second best. It's less certain that'll mean advancing, but the German should probably be given the benefit of the doubt.

[image loading] ROX.KIS.Pomi
Perhaps the most surprising player who qualified for IEM Kiev, Pomi was a more notable player in the middle of last year, but was never really able to distinguish himself and seemed to have faded away. It was odd that he qualified, and it's unlikely that he will progress too much further. Similar to elfi, Pomi is known for doing weird stuff, and sometimes getting away with it, or other times just sitting and getting a deathball. Pomi is not a slouch mechanically, however, and he has enough skill to make this group very interesting. While MMA will almost surely advance, the second place in this group will be a dogfight between the remaining three. Based on past results and success, Pomi feels the least likely of the bunch, but if his good results in the qualifier are an indicator of increased skill, then that could be flipped on it's head.

ua mTw.DIMAGA
DIMAGA has always been one of Europe's best, but he's been on the outside of most international successes. That's probably a combination of his refusal to ever do much harassment, or his constant headbutting of forcefield walls while getting wrecked by protoss AOE. Nonetheless, DIMAGA is an extremely good player, and he should advance in this group. His main competition is HerO, who has been disappointingly inconsistent after seeming to break through at MLG Providence and Dreamhack Winter. It's not out of the question for DIMAGA to take first place here, if HerO has the same difficulties that befell him at Homestory. But it's also not out of the question for DIMAGA to not advance; his toughest challenge will probably come from Feast, who is a real dark horse in this event. DIMAGA is a much stronger favorite against qxc, who hasn't looked so elite since he all-killed IM. But overall, it's reasonable to assume the result as somewhere in the middle; DIMAGA will probably make it out of his group and has the potential to beat nearly anyone (probable MMA exception) in the bracket stage.

be Mill.Feast
Tied with TargA and Zenio as my most interesting players to watch in Kiev, Feast recently emerged on everyone's radar as a top player, and was quickly picked up by Millenium. It already looks like a smart pick-up, the French Belgian has been putting a quiet but impressive string of results together. Feast is an impressive player, possessing a versatile game with good fundamentals. He's not a one-trick pony, and has a solid grasp of recent strategy developments. Overall, he's a solid contender, but one who is probably several months away from real international success. This is his first major international LAN, and thus is the underdog, but he has the potential to surprise. At the very least, watch his games, they'll be interesting.

se QxG.NaNiwa
Following his banishment from Code S, NaNiwa sounded almost philosophical during an interview on LiveOnThree, as he contemplated the fleeting nature of pro-gaming where everything can be given and taken away in the blink of an eye. What did he take away from this observation? An appreciation for fragility of a pro-gaming career, and thus the drive to try even harder to become the best in the world. At least that's what he said, in December of 2011.

It's time to make good on those words.

Naniwa already delighted everyone by upping his game at MLG Providence, taking down six GSL championships worth in Nestea and MVP. If he could just keep the status quo, I'm sure the fans would love it. However, if he showed that he elevated his game one more step... I'm just saying, I think IdrA and Elfi would like some non-Korean company at the World Championships.


.02
Player Guide: Korea

by Waxangel

kr Liquid`HerO
Here's an unusual analogy: HerO is the Korean IdrA. Their races, nationalities, personalities, and play styles couldn't be more different. But look at their relationship with their fans. No other players inspire the longing sentiment of "if he could ever put it together, if he could get over his mental blocks, he could be the best player in the world" like those two. If the two fan bases could get over their EG/TL differences, they could hold quite a pity party.

We know who Hero can be. We saw it for one week between DreamHack Winter and the NASL Grand Finals, when he briefly became the best Protoss player in the world. It's just a matter of when and where he wants to show that side of himself. Alas, though we can see hundreds of his games on his stream, we'll never really know where his mind is at. So for yet another tournament, he's the wild card among wild cards. Expect nothing. Expect everything.


kr Liquid`Zenio
To start on a topic that's distinctly not IEM, let's talk about MLG. It's great publicity for the GSL when they send their best players over via the league exchange program, and those players just mop the floor with everyone else there. However, those guys are supposed to win, and it's no surprise when they do. What I've always thought could be a better piece of marketing would be to send over entirely mid-tier Code S players. The medals would still come back to Korea (I mean guys, you HAVE been paying attention to Code A for the past few seasons, right?), and the GSL would look even more formidable.

I bring that up because Zenio could be the perfect mid-tier GSL ambassador. Killer's been a bit shaky in his PvP, which has caused him to fail at that role so far. Zenio has excellent ZvZ so he's less likely to be coin-flipped out, and he has the tried and true Code-S level skills to make short work of most foreigners. Now, he has a reputation of losing his composure when the stakes are high, but otherwise nervous Koreans (*cough* HerO *cough*) have found that a little foreign air can be a great remedy for a case of the shakes. Though Zenio probably won't beat MMA, it's still very likely he'll bring some glory back to Korea. Heck, why isn't the GSL subsidizing this trip already?


kr SlayerS_MMA
The few times I've remembered a single player being a such prohibitive favorite to win it all like MMA at IEM Kiev, the name IMMvp was involved. MMA earned that status by winning the Blizzard Cup, and he showed it was no fluke recently by making his way through his Code S group with laughable ease. After seeing MMA best DongRaeGu and MVP at the Blizzard Cup, it's hard to say any of the Terran or Zerg players at Kiev will provide a credible threat.

The nine Protoss players, however, do present an interesting conundrum. The fact is that MMA really hasn't played much TvP in the past few months. He beat MC while the president was at the bottom of his slump in a match that was more indicative of MC's decline than MMA's prowess. In a 2-3 loss to FXO_z, MMA did look decent, without really impressing. Facing Naniwa in the Blizzard Cup, MMA used a Marine-Thor all-in to take a quick win. And that's about it.

Actually, I'll take that back. It's not really a conundrum. MMA is still an absurd favorite against the nine talented Protoss players gathered in Kiev. Those same concerns about TvP existed with Mvp as well, but we didn't really care because it was f***ing MVP. Well, MMA has now co-opted the Mvp factor. Maybe he ripped it from his soul after delivering that 3-0 beating in the Blizzard Cup. When you're the best player in the world, sometimes match-ups just don't matter. You'll always find a way.

.03
Player Guide: Other

by WaxAngel and HawaiianPig

no inFi.TargA
Any player, no matter where he originally hails from, takes on the characteristics of the region he resides in. Just ask HuK or Rain. Unfortunately for Targa, his nordic skills have given way to the call of the SEA. Sorry Targa, Moonglade is the only SEA player who's managed to make an impact outside of the region so far. Until proven otherwise, we're going to say that's the way it stays.

us coL.qxc
Is it unfair to put all of America's hopes on qxc, the sole representative of the stars and stripes at IEM Kiev? Even though pro-gaming has taken a backseat in his life, so he could focus more on studies? Even though he hasn't had a high profile tournament appearance in months, unless you count a best of thirty one series against Catz? Nope, it's not even the tiniest bit unfair. The privilege and burden of being born in the USA.

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.04
Podcast: Carmac

[image loading]Teamliquid! Why are you spending so much time recording podcasts, and not actually doing your job writing useful things?

A good question, which we can answer in the form of our own question. Why spend hours coming up with ideas, trying to illuminate interesting topics in ESPORTS, when we can just get someone else who's more insightful to do it for us? Jokes aside, it can be truly insightful to talk to those people we call ESPORTS 'insiders,' and learn exactly why they deserve that title.

In this installment of our non-regular program, we talked to Michal "Carmac" Blicharz, who is the 'product manager' of the IEM Global Challenge. Basically, that means he's the guy who runs the show. Besides having a knack for running international pro-gaming tournaments, Carmac is also known for his talents in journalism and looking like DIMAGA.

We talked to DIMAGACarmac about IEM Kiev predictions, IEM's operating philosophy, making money now versus sustainability in the future, casters versus players, League of Legends as a rising ESPORT, and how to not get called out by Cloud for paying out prize money late. In short, we talked about ESPORTS for an hour without actually talking about anything that happened inside a game. Actually, it's not even much of an IEM Kiev podcast at all, as it is Carmac talks about ESPORTS. Well, that's pretty cool, too.

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This podcast was recorded on January 16th, 2012.




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Writers: tree.hugger and Waxangel.
Graphics and layout: Meko.
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Sliver
Profile Joined April 2010
United States402 Posts
January 19 2012 05:38 GMT
#2
WOW that is a lot of Protoss.
Vansetsu
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1454 Posts
January 19 2012 05:42 GMT
#3
Sick writeup. REALLY awesome artwork. Rooting for Hero and Grubby, won't be upset if MMA takes it though.
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RaLakedaimon
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1564 Posts
January 19 2012 05:44 GMT
#4
Nice write-up, love that top graphic of the mothership, hilarious at the podcast download link "22mb-or something like that". haha GL to White-Ra!
Ahtiven
Profile Joined May 2009
Malaysia159 Posts
January 19 2012 05:45 GMT
#5
Nice banner! Wonder why other Koreans didn't join though.
Life is a gift, don't waste it.
KiNGxXx
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
7928 Posts
January 19 2012 05:47 GMT
#6
I love those podcast interviews! Keep it up please!
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R3DT1D3
Profile Joined January 2012
285 Posts
January 19 2012 05:47 GMT
#7
I'd like to see an MMA/Naniwa finals. Also that QXC pic is amazing.
.MadHaT
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada76 Posts
January 19 2012 05:49 GMT
#8
Europe breeds toss like Korea breeds Terrans....
"That's just the man trying to get you to buy Bananas" - Artosis
Zinjil
Profile Joined February 2011
United States166 Posts
January 19 2012 05:50 GMT
#9
Ok we need to get qxc an American flag to drape himself in, and maybe somebody with a boombox and eye of the tiger on repeat to follow him around. Let the patriotism commence!
silverstyle
Profile Joined May 2011
Singapore1108 Posts
January 19 2012 05:53 GMT
#10
Rooting for MMA! But there will always be a special place in my heart for HerO!
Liquid`HerO!!!
HawaiianPig
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada5155 Posts
January 19 2012 05:54 GMT
#11
[image loading]
AdministratorNot actually Hawaiian.
Wockets
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Hong Kong467 Posts
January 19 2012 05:56 GMT
#12
Rooting for NaNiWa - he's learned his lesson (hopefully), time to give him a break.
Come on Nani - show them what you got!!
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
January 19 2012 05:57 GMT
#13
The mothership header is beautiful.

Never heard of Pomi and Feast. /is embarassed

I am in a WC3 mood, so go Grubby! Hoping for a good TvP final I guess.
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Feijichang
Profile Joined April 2010
China167 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-19 06:27:34
January 19 2012 05:58 GMT
#14
I definitely didn't lose interest in Homestory Cup after the round of 8, always enjoy Carmac interviews though. -_-

And personality matters more in SC2 because it is 1v1, not teams like the traditional sports mentioned. Fighters and Tennis players and the like are largely known for personality as well. People root for sports teams just based on hometowns or their colleges a lot of the time.
endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-19 05:59:39
January 19 2012 05:59 GMT
#15
Great preview.
That blurry font hurts my eyes though, why not use the default forum font ?
ॐ
jlake02
Profile Joined January 2011
United States395 Posts
January 19 2012 06:03 GMT
#16
QXC fighting!
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cosine
Profile Joined September 2011
313 Posts
January 19 2012 06:03 GMT
#17
qxc irl

Gara
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada435 Posts
January 19 2012 06:03 GMT
#18
That is an epic header! I want a wallpaper-sized version, pretty please
BEARDiaguz
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Australia2362 Posts
January 19 2012 06:07 GMT
#19

no inFi.TargA
Any player, no matter where he originally hails from, takes on the characteristics of the region he resides in. Just ask HuK or Rain. Unfortunately for Targa, his nordic skills have given way to the call of the SEA. Sorry Targa, Moonglade is the only SEA player who's managed to make an impact outside of the region so far. Until proven otherwise, we're going to say that's the way it stays.

OH HE'LL SHOW THE FUCKING LOT OF YOU.
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inFeZa
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Australia556 Posts
January 19 2012 06:12 GMT
#20
I Think TargA's a little under-estimated here. Top 20 GM Europe? He's gonna show some players what's up.
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andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
January 19 2012 06:13 GMT
#21
>qxcpatriotsopa.jpg
oh man that filename hahaha
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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33392 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-19 06:14:09
January 19 2012 06:13 GMT
#22
On January 19 2012 15:07 iaguz wrote:

no inFi.TargA
Any player, no matter where he originally hails from, takes on the characteristics of the region he resides in. Just ask HuK or Rain. Unfortunately for Targa, his nordic skills have given way to the call of the SEA. Sorry Targa, Moonglade is the only SEA player who's managed to make an impact outside of the region so far. Until proven otherwise, we're going to say that's the way it stays.

OH HE'LL SHOW THE FUCKING LOT OF YOU.


actions, not words :D

it would be awesome if he did well though, repping both SEA and Norway, two underrepresented regions :O
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Ruscour
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
5233 Posts
January 19 2012 06:25 GMT
#23
TargA qualified for NASL S2...wtf is with TL articles and hating SEA
FakeDeath
Profile Joined January 2011
Malaysia6060 Posts
January 19 2012 06:26 GMT
#24
Top 3 is gonna be Koreans.MMA is gonna take this.
Play your best
alteredclone
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States110 Posts
January 19 2012 06:30 GMT
#25
On January 19 2012 14:59 endy wrote:
Great preview.
That blurry font hurts my eyes though, why not use the default forum font ?


it's probably you're own aliasing settings. perhaps you're zoomed out on your browser too far.
Graphics@alteredclone
ChadMann
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia128 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-19 06:32:32
January 19 2012 06:30 GMT
#26
FREE TARGA!... This is an outrage. TargA 1st in group.. MMA who?

On January 19 2012 15:13 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2012 15:07 iaguz wrote:

no inFi.TargA
Any player, no matter where he originally hails from, takes on the characteristics of the region he resides in. Just ask HuK or Rain. Unfortunately for Targa, his nordic skills have given way to the call of the SEA. Sorry Targa, Moonglade is the only SEA player who's managed to make an impact outside of the region so far. Until proven otherwise, we're going to say that's the way it stays.

OH HE'LL SHOW THE FUCKING LOT OF YOU.


actions, not words :D

it would be awesome if he did well though, repping both SEA and Norway, two underrepresented regions :O



Under represented?.. you mean Under rated.
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TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10009 Posts
January 19 2012 06:33 GMT
#27
omfg the player-sex appeal of this tournament is off the chain, USA USA USA(keep ur friends close and ur enemys even closer) NA FIGHTING~
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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33392 Posts
January 19 2012 06:33 GMT
#28
also, come on, he's Norwegian. He's only really there to check the whale harvest in advance.
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
deL
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Australia5540 Posts
January 19 2012 06:33 GMT
#29
Come on now TargA got top16 in GM on EU! He took out Maka in SEA vs eSahara clan war for IPL too!

Having said that, he was like the 8th seed for IEM Kiev but the top 8 couldn't make the trip
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Potthead
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia121 Posts
January 19 2012 06:35 GMT
#30
inFi.TargA
Any player, no matter where he originally hails from, takes on the characteristics of the region he resides in. Just ask HuK or Rain. Unfortunately for Targa, his nordic skills have given way to the call of the SEA. Sorry Targa, Moonglade is the only SEA player who's managed to make an impact outside of the region so far. Until proven otherwise, we're going to say that's the way it stays.


It's predictions like these that make me sad
ChadMann
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia128 Posts
January 19 2012 06:37 GMT
#31
On January 19 2012 15:33 Waxangel wrote:
also, come on, he's Norwegian. He's only really there to check the whale harvest in advance.



-_- really?.. Your american... can hardly talk.. -_-
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spancho
Profile Joined September 2009
United States161 Posts
January 19 2012 06:39 GMT
#32
QXC hWaiting!! The only player other then TLO who Ive seen nuke rush in a tournament and actually pull it off. Also that graphic by HawaiianPig is freaking epic.
"Your face can't hurt 'cuz you're ugly." -Tasteless
kochujang
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany1226 Posts
January 19 2012 06:46 GMT
#33
On January 19 2012 15:33 Waxangel wrote:
also, come on, he's Norwegian. He's only really there to check the whale harvest in advance.

...and punch some Green Peace activists in the face.
ViRii
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States826 Posts
January 19 2012 06:47 GMT
#34
Hoping a Protoss can take it, White-Ra, HerO, Grubby.. come on.
s0cce12
Profile Joined December 2011
United States8 Posts
January 19 2012 06:48 GMT
#35
i think this iem isnt gonna be that great :/ im looking forward more to sao paulo
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carloselcoco
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2302 Posts
January 19 2012 06:49 GMT
#36
QXC Defending the American Dream!! :D
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Olinimm
Profile Joined November 2011
1471 Posts
January 19 2012 06:51 GMT
#37
lol @ the Hero section.."briefly the best Protoss in the world" or in my words "briefly insanely overhyped by everyone" but yeah. Love all the write ups for the tournaments, they really are fun to read.
endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
January 19 2012 06:53 GMT
#38
On January 19 2012 15:30 alteredclone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2012 14:59 endy wrote:
Great preview.
That blurry font hurts my eyes though, why not use the default forum font ?


it's probably you're own aliasing settings. perhaps you're zoomed out on your browser too far.


Hmmm TL is displayed in "100%" zoom, and everything else looks perfectly clear. Only the font used in the OP looks blurry.
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Mawi
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden4365 Posts
January 19 2012 07:03 GMT
#39
Aww yeah WHITERA!!! so excited for this
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Flamingo777
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1190 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-19 07:21:54
January 19 2012 07:08 GMT
#40
The smaller image on TL's main page of the main image in the OP definitely looked like an Evangelion unit to me.

Edit: Fine.
Lorizean
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Germany1330 Posts
January 19 2012 07:13 GMT
#41
On January 19 2012 16:08 Flamingo777 wrote:
The smaller image on TL's main page of the main image in the OP definitely looked like an Evangelion unit to me.

Also, calling MMA first SC2 bonjwa... I think he just might dominate 2012. ^__^

woah, don't even start with that shit.

Also, whats wrong with all the people saying TargA should've gotten a different summary? Fact is, he hasn't done anything in a big tournament yet and we gotta wait for him to do good - nobody's saying he's bad, just that he didn't have a real chance to prove his skills yet (and no, qualifying for NASL or w/e doesn't count when compared to the other players)
Share_The_Land
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada152 Posts
January 19 2012 07:15 GMT
#42
On January 19 2012 15:33 Waxangel wrote:
also, come on, he's Norwegian. He's only really there to check the whale harvest in advance.


I had a hearty lol I'm interested to see how well he does, really liked your MMA writeup btw. Guy is just getting too good, soon as I saw he was going to Kiev I just sighed
"Turns out he's a former Counterstrike pro and grabs his ak!" - Tasteless
tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
January 19 2012 07:17 GMT
#43
I'm going rogue and saying I like TargA and think he'll advance. So there, Wax!
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zanga
Profile Joined September 2011
659 Posts
January 19 2012 07:19 GMT
#44
Gogo Naniwa and Dimaga !

Btw.. To those that hasnt heard the Carmac interview-podcast... I really really recommend it, very nice.

Gl hf IEM, Carmac, the players and SC2 FIGHTINGGGGGG!
(:
bobsire
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada296 Posts
January 19 2012 07:25 GMT
#45
great write up man i loved reading it! can't wait for this tourny to start. :D
DoX.)
Profile Joined December 2008
Singapore6164 Posts
January 19 2012 07:27 GMT
#46
QXC QXC QXC

Cheering hard for you <3
Baeltimazifas
Profile Joined January 2011
5 Posts
January 19 2012 07:27 GMT
#47
mothership header wallpaper would be amazing
BobMcJohnson
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
France2916 Posts
January 19 2012 07:29 GMT
#48
that QXC picture is so perfect hahahaha xD
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Potthead
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia121 Posts
January 19 2012 07:39 GMT
#49
A nice prediction on TargA by the ever-lovable deL! http://www.sc2sea.com/showthread.php?t=3381
ZackAttack
Profile Joined June 2011
United States884 Posts
January 19 2012 07:41 GMT
#50
Lol @ the picture of qxc.
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GoingGoingGone
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Slovakia529 Posts
January 19 2012 07:41 GMT
#51
Apart from the obvious (MMA being the hottest favourite)... I'm interested to see how Naniwa's doing, if he's on top of his game, he might have a good chance.

But, as always, may the best player win. gg.
Busy night, but there's always room for another... unless the servers are down.
Jeenyus
Profile Joined July 2011
United States109 Posts
January 19 2012 07:43 GMT
#52
LETS GO QXC
Ganzi, Heart, Nada, coL <3 Keen,DRG,Naniwa
red4ce
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States7313 Posts
January 19 2012 07:44 GMT
#53
Didn't realize there were so many protoss in this tournament. Looking forward to it just an eentsy bit less than I was before. A foreigner taking down MMA, however, would make my day.
frogrubdown
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
1266 Posts
January 19 2012 07:53 GMT
#54
It's a bit unfair to say that Grubby was "not ever seeming to have an answer" for Ret at Shoutcraft given that he beat him in groups.
Meko
Profile Joined February 2011
United States129 Posts
January 19 2012 08:00 GMT
#55
For anyone looking for a wallpaper version of the Mothership in the header for this article, if you look up Glenn Rane you should be able to find the original piece. He's done a lot of the concept and production artwork for Blizzard games. The background pieces in the OP are completely changed from what was in the original artwork but the Mothership itself is the same with a slight modification here and there but nothing significant.

Hope that helps anyone looking for a wallpaper. <3
Graphics
mjf
Profile Joined April 2010
United States436 Posts
January 19 2012 08:04 GMT
#56
On January 19 2012 14:59 endy wrote:
Great preview.
That blurry font hurts my eyes though, why not use the default forum font ?


i also had a lot of trouble reading this, so i couldnt even finish it :/
Kusuri
Profile Joined May 2011
Austria29 Posts
January 19 2012 08:11 GMT
#57
Mama-Ship will win the tourney - hopefully ;>
Resistance is futile!
Asturas
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Finland587 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-19 08:15:39
January 19 2012 08:15 GMT
#58
Almost awesome. Almost because there are way too many Protosses and I hate all matchups involving P.

Gogogo MMA, Kas and QXC!
There are no boundaries, that's the final conclusion.
JohnnyYen
Profile Joined September 2010
United States313 Posts
January 19 2012 08:25 GMT
#59
The Waxangel and Carmac podcast is so good!! And that qxc picture is amazing! :D

I downloaded the previous podcasts and the one with Cloud is also great!
jarrydesque
Profile Joined November 2010
584 Posts
January 19 2012 08:26 GMT
#60
That picture of qxc is HILARIOUS.
#1 Kennigit fanboy/stalker
Carmac
Profile Joined August 2007
Poland375 Posts
January 19 2012 08:40 GMT
#61
"He has a talent for looking like Dimaga."

Thanks, Waxangel, thanks...
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Geen
Profile Joined December 2011
Netherlands51 Posts
January 19 2012 08:42 GMT
#62
On January 19 2012 16:53 frogrubdown wrote:
It's a bit unfair to say that Grubby was "not ever seeming to have an answer" for Ret at Shoutcraft given that he beat him in groups.

was about to say the same, Ret absolutely crushed everyone in the group, except Grubby. The rematch was a bit onesided for Ret though, but for Grubby the first match VS Ret was a lot more important than the second match vs Ret. (For ret it was the opposite)
parazice
Profile Joined March 2011
Thailand5517 Posts
January 19 2012 08:49 GMT
#63
MMA i want to see him in IEM world so plz win baby
Fatze
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Germany1342 Posts
January 19 2012 08:58 GMT
#64
epic artwork - excellent preview as always <33
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Grovbolle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark3805 Posts
January 19 2012 08:59 GMT
#65
On January 19 2012 17:40 Carmac wrote:
"He has a talent for looking like Dimaga."

Thanks, Waxangel, thanks...


"You're really good at looking like Dimaga, what a useful skill toi have"

Also: TARGA TARGA TARGA (rooting for norway since they are underrepresented like Denmark in all tournaments)
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kittensrcute
Profile Joined August 2010
United States617 Posts
January 19 2012 09:02 GMT
#66
oh shit it starts in 2 hours? ugh, why did i decide to stay up for gsl when i can just watch the vods tomorrow, T.T. i'd like to see nani make a good showing here and compete with the koreans. mma has been in top form as of late so he's probably the massive favorite. hoping for some gud gaimze
Baituri
Profile Joined June 2010
Netherlands1501 Posts
January 19 2012 09:24 GMT
#67
I like it, but I think you overrate the TL guys here...
pallad
Profile Joined September 2010
Poland1958 Posts
January 19 2012 09:24 GMT
#68
Artwork by TL writeup team is getting better and better <3 , cant wait for that
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panth
Profile Joined March 2010
53 Posts
January 19 2012 09:39 GMT
#69
TargA fighting!
Piou
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium415 Posts
January 19 2012 09:40 GMT
#70
Go Feast !!! Go get these fools
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Lyter
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United Kingdom2145 Posts
January 19 2012 09:43 GMT
#71
Yea didn't really get the grubby getting embarrassed by Ret part of the preview, he kinda 2-0d him in the groups and made ret look a bit silly
TheBB
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Switzerland5133 Posts
January 19 2012 09:44 GMT
#72
On January 19 2012 15:33 deL wrote:
Having said that, he was like the 8th seed for IEM Kiev but the top 8 couldn't make the trip

That doesn't even make sense. Do you mean 9th seed?
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Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
January 19 2012 09:50 GMT
#73
Go herO and Grubby, hoping for good foreign result tbh would do good to the European scene.
Moxi
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
708 Posts
January 19 2012 10:36 GMT
#74
This reviews are not objective at all, just saying. But they are good and very interesting!
Good luck players! Can't wait to watch this.
aLt)nirvana
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Singapore846 Posts
January 19 2012 10:48 GMT
#75
Go targa, go grubby!!
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FaRess
Profile Joined September 2010
Tunisia937 Posts
January 19 2012 10:48 GMT
#76
I wish carmac would have done what he said, an ad for IEM Kiev, where he pretends to be dimaga, kisses his biceps, and tell the world they can't miss Kiev.
YoloStar <3
Rabiatic
Profile Joined March 2011
Norway33 Posts
January 19 2012 11:07 GMT
#77
I don't think TargA would be able to do anything in Kiev...please prove me wrong!
pms
Profile Joined April 2008
Poland611 Posts
January 19 2012 11:23 GMT
#78
Go for it NANI, WE LOVE YOU!!! :D
tapk69
Profile Joined January 2011
Portugal264 Posts
January 19 2012 11:32 GMT
#79
Rooting for Naniwa or MMA.. i know both of them will be great , i hope they play the finals
ja foste
voy
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland348 Posts
January 19 2012 11:41 GMT
#80
I loooove the artwork, it's like from Nujabes music album cover
I'm a man with a dream. And I look good in jeans. graphic designer looking for freelance work.
JoeAWESOME
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden1080 Posts
January 19 2012 11:57 GMT
#81
The tournament just got a lot more fun now when White Ra is in it!

Group A is kinda scary with White ra in it!!! He's my pick to win this tournament!
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BulletByBullet
Profile Joined January 2012
18 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-19 11:58:09
January 19 2012 11:57 GMT
#82
You know it is not gonna be a good tournament when you see that almost every matchup will be PvP, LOL.
deL
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Australia5540 Posts
January 19 2012 11:58 GMT
#83
On January 19 2012 18:44 TheBB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2012 15:33 deL wrote:
Having said that, he was like the 8th seed for IEM Kiev but the top 8 couldn't make the trip

That doesn't even make sense. Do you mean 9th seed?

Yah 9th :3
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00Visor
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
4337 Posts
January 19 2012 12:01 GMT
#84
I don't like the part about Kas.
You question if Kas ever can replicate his results offline just after his 3rd place at WCG which you don't even mention.
antilyon
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Brazil2546 Posts
January 19 2012 12:26 GMT
#85
qxc's banner is just too good.
draep
Profile Joined September 2008
Sweden10 Posts
January 19 2012 12:43 GMT
#86
Love the design and neat navigation. Yeah!
PoisedYeTi
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia167 Posts
January 19 2012 12:52 GMT
#87
TargA Fighting!!!
"Just read game like book" -WhiteRa
Moxi
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
708 Posts
January 19 2012 12:56 GMT
#88
On January 19 2012 20:57 JoeAWESOME wrote:
The tournament just got a lot more fun now when White Ra is in it!

Group A is kinda scary with White ra in it!!! He's my pick to win this tournament!


I wish you luck on that bet.
nimdil
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Poland3748 Posts
January 19 2012 13:42 GMT
#89
Why is Targa outside the Europe category. Norway is European country.
RageCommodore
Profile Joined September 2011
Germany912 Posts
January 19 2012 13:43 GMT
#90
Go Hasu and Dimaga! :3
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Jisira
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
470 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-19 13:44:28
January 19 2012 13:43 GMT
#91
Naniwa forfeit the tourney... What can we expect? Was this a Nani-rage or are the technical issues that bad?

On January 19 2012 22:42 nimdil wrote:
Why is Targa outside the Europe category. Norway is European country.

He has a visa for studying in Australia, and since the top 8-players from SEA couldn't show for various reasons, TargA who now is in Norway for the time being is able to fill in.
Jisira
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
470 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-19 13:44:20
January 19 2012 13:44 GMT
#92
Double
confusedcrib
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1307 Posts
January 19 2012 14:30 GMT
#93
Awesome. All of it was awesome.
I'm a writer for TeamLiquid, you've probably heard of me
FreudianTrip
Profile Joined July 2011
Switzerland1983 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-19 14:42:21
January 19 2012 14:34 GMT
#94
Just stopped by to say how much I've loved the podcasts you guys have been doing! KUTGW
ishboh
Profile Joined October 2010
United States954 Posts
January 19 2012 14:44 GMT
#95
go qxc!

'Mericuh!
w1nter
Profile Joined March 2011
Lithuania73 Posts
January 19 2012 14:44 GMT
#96
LOL qxc looks so awesome
Lucko
Profile Joined May 2011
United States48 Posts
January 19 2012 15:07 GMT
#97
hahaha QXC PRESSURES ON that was pretty good
"I see he is doing the 'lose all my banshees' strategy, Im good against that strategy"-Tasteless impersonating MKP agaisnt Thebestfou
Shablagooo
Profile Joined June 2010
Australia38 Posts
January 19 2012 15:14 GMT
#98
TARGA FIGHTING!
rkshox
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Taiwan536 Posts
January 19 2012 15:28 GMT
#99
Finally! More P than T!!!! Protoss hwaiting!!
@ranleee /// "first we expand, then we defense it'
Rookie6
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Brazil583 Posts
January 19 2012 15:56 GMT
#100
Grubby and Hero !!
mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
January 19 2012 15:56 GMT
#101
The high protoss count adds a nice touch of uncertainty to this tourney.. Without them they might as well just hand the prize over to MMA already
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-19 20:47:24
January 19 2012 15:58 GMT
#102
White Ra rolled Kas pretty convincingly in a series Husky casted/ I saw awhile ago. He didn't play perfect, (gave away a couple free units and had one really bad engage) but he looked good otherwise playing pretty standard.

That said, I don't see anyone here who is a serious competitor to MMA. His TvP may be under 50%, but the sheer quality of his opponents in Korea vs. these foreigners is huge. Well, maybe the sheer amount of Toss will stop him.
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BlacKcuD
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany107 Posts
January 19 2012 16:08 GMT
#103
On January 20 2012 00:56 mordk wrote:
The high protoss count adds a nice touch of uncertainty to this tourney.. Without them they might as well just hand the prize over to MMA already


Exactly my thoughts. However, I would really love to see Dimaga and WhiteRa advance deeply as well.

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Munk-E
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States672 Posts
January 19 2012 16:42 GMT
#104
it may not be fair to place america's hopes on qxc, but he can do it.

He's already one of the best players right now, and once he fully commits, he will have tournament results up the wazoo
You recognise me because of my signature!
julianto
Profile Joined December 2010
2292 Posts
January 19 2012 17:01 GMT
#105
QXC is America!
And so can you!
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Ragoo
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany2773 Posts
January 19 2012 17:27 GMT
#106
Gogo Kas <3 Show em how good you really are!
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ContactKilla
Profile Joined December 2010
United States194 Posts
January 19 2012 17:56 GMT
#107
Im sorry but MMA will take this. It has nothing to do with tvp not being his strongest but he's just a much better player
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
January 19 2012 18:03 GMT
#108
QXC all kills everyone in this tourney, calling it now. USA USA!!! :D
liftlift > tsm
Dexx
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany175 Posts
January 19 2012 18:05 GMT
#109
Grubby was not cleless in shoutcraft invitational. He won against ret only to lose to him coming in forth place. A forth place is not that bad.
kellymilkies
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Singapore1393 Posts
January 19 2012 18:11 GMT
#110
God I love TL write ups
Be the change you wish to see in the world ^-^V //
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
January 19 2012 18:19 GMT
#111
MMA all the way!
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Ilverin
Profile Joined May 2011
United States19 Posts
January 19 2012 18:46 GMT
#112
Let's go HerO!
TheBamf
Profile Joined June 2011
Denmark366 Posts
January 19 2012 18:47 GMT
#113
Great write up!
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bOneSeven
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Romania685 Posts
January 19 2012 19:05 GMT
#114
Dunno why you guys cheer for MMA when he has like 95% chances of winning this tour =D ... GO UNDERDOGS GO !!!
Planet earth is blue and there's nothing I can do
LeapofFaith
Profile Joined November 2011
United States446 Posts
January 19 2012 19:34 GMT
#115
That Mothership graphic at the top is just amazing :O
ReketSomething
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6012 Posts
January 19 2012 19:49 GMT
#116
omg that qxc and that image filename sopa

ninja hawaiian pig...ninja.
Jaedong :3
-niL
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada1131 Posts
January 19 2012 20:05 GMT
#117
I hope MMA's TvP skills improved a lot seeing all those protoss... Then again, he practices with HuK, Puzzle and Brown regulary...
snively
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States1159 Posts
January 19 2012 22:26 GMT
#118
go qxc!
My religion is Starcraft
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-19 23:47:50
January 19 2012 23:33 GMT
#119
I've seen Huk, Naniwa, and Thorzain all complaining about technical issues. Anyone know what exactly is going on?
EDIT: Nevermind, got clarified over on Carmac's post.
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JujuXG
Profile Joined September 2011
United States373 Posts
January 19 2012 23:52 GMT
#120
lol awesome qxc picture
"I'm naturally good at everything. I'm good at eating too, so that's why I can't lose weight."
Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
January 20 2012 00:07 GMT
#121
MMA will have a walk in the park.
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
GenesisX
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada4267 Posts
January 20 2012 00:23 GMT
#122
many protosses :o
can't wait !
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Kiett
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States7639 Posts
January 20 2012 00:43 GMT
#123
Go HerO & MMA! ♥
Writer:o
honed
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada482 Posts
January 20 2012 01:49 GMT
#124
that is one sexy OP. good work sir
PlaKen
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada46 Posts
January 20 2012 03:08 GMT
#125
Sick write up...I really enjoy all the work that goes into these articles...From the beautiful artwork (including QXC's flowing hair/american pride banner hahaah) to the actual content, its great, all of it!!!
Take what is theirs and make it yours.
Forbidden17
Profile Joined December 2011
666 Posts
January 20 2012 04:07 GMT
#126
MMA seems slightly favoured in this tournament...
Brett
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Australia3820 Posts
January 20 2012 04:27 GMT
#127
Lol that qxc pic is so OTT.
ArchDC
Profile Joined May 2011
Malaysia1996 Posts
January 20 2012 05:39 GMT
#128
Nice writeup, but really like the graphics!!
Buddhabig
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark72 Posts
January 20 2012 09:33 GMT
#129
First i see the results of kas. Then im like WOOO! But when i then read what was written about Kas, i was like: "W00T?" Kas 3rd at WCG? And you say he is doing bad at lans?
"Girls like bad boys. Thats why you have so many." Kas to Naniwa! The shit i waste my time on now: https://osu.ppy.sh/u/2114273
Rossi
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Australia59 Posts
January 20 2012 09:40 GMT
#130
dislike the shitting on targa for being a member of the SEA scene!
Aye, Bapa de boopee?
PoisedYeTi
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia167 Posts
January 20 2012 11:56 GMT
#131
Why was D.killers travel experience so bad leading him to get replaced by WhiteRa?
I am curious orange
"Just read game like book" -WhiteRa
scDeluX
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Canada1341 Posts
January 20 2012 15:32 GMT
#132
My prediction is Korean sweep and Naniwa in top 5
Brood War is forever
nachtkap
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany195 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-20 16:07:48
January 20 2012 15:58 GMT
#133
Why the hell aren't there more casters at the event? this feels like a online cup when Apollo, TLO and are Casting and I have been that interested in those.
Apollo and TLO casting is good but a match with MMA in it deserves more attention then Take casting.... alone.... from home. As do the other matches considering the line up.
jumbotroN
Profile Joined April 2010
Peru229 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-20 20:16:36
January 20 2012 20:06 GMT
#134
there's not such things as a LAN or offline in SC2.

MMA will take this. top 3 korean unless they meet early.

Sad to see this kind of unprofesional articles on TL.
neocron
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom505 Posts
January 21 2012 00:42 GMT
#135
On January 21 2012 00:58 nachtkap wrote:
Why the hell aren't there more casters at the event? this feels like a online cup when Apollo, TLO and are Casting and I have been that interested in those.
Apollo and TLO casting is good but a match with MMA in it deserves more attention then Take casting.... alone.... from home. As do the other matches considering the line up.


Bitterdam is casting, wth?
Robinsa
Profile Joined May 2009
Japan1333 Posts
January 21 2012 05:06 GMT
#136
I cant wait for the games today when we get into the real tournament bracket. Im a bit afraid the lag is going to ruin this part of the tournmanet as well but Im hopeful. Gogo Naniwa!
4649!!
FaZe
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada472 Posts
January 21 2012 09:30 GMT
#137
lol
"Victory needs no explanation; defeat allows none."
Sky_
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada116 Posts
January 21 2012 15:13 GMT
#138
gogo MMA!
starslayer
Profile Joined August 2011
United States696 Posts
January 21 2012 20:22 GMT
#139
QXC FIGHTING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! USA all the way. LOL
i came here to kickass and chew bubblegum and i'm all out of bubble gum
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
January 21 2012 23:33 GMT
#140
Lol was that crack in the mothership there before or did it get added after todays games?XD
Cackle™
SargonTheGreat
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States217 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-22 00:35:00
January 22 2012 00:11 GMT
#141
♥Carmac Grassroots gogogrow

Quote Carmac "Look man I'm a platinum player what do I know about sc man?" hahah I love this guy.
"Your Empire falls and you Lose ever Cent," the gza, protect ya neck: enter the wu tang (36 chambers)
TemujinGK
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States483 Posts
January 22 2012 16:50 GMT
#142
This has turned out better than expected. Really looking forward to the final match ^_^.
"Pikachu and Protoss are both yellow, Coincidence?" ~apexMorroW
Gjorg
Profile Joined December 2011
22 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-22 20:08:52
January 22 2012 20:05 GMT
#143
I'm going to be really honest here, IEM Kiev was really bad in general

- Why weren't the stream links on top of the list?
- Bad names, "ESL.tv Event"... what event?
- Chat needed mods and slow mode

- Mr.Bitter and Rotterdam are awful casters, they need to stop being biased and not talk about stuff nobody cares about (e.g. what strategies they like most and then repeat it 50 times during one game and laugh at reaper expand being so good over and over again)
- Was there even a crowd? We never got to see the crowd in action, I only heard them once or twice, a crowd is necessary for nerd chills

...
there's more but i'm tired

im not here to rage i just wanted to help out because im sure A LOT of people think the same

Strivers
Profile Joined November 2010
United States358 Posts
January 22 2012 20:14 GMT
#144
hero is the "korean idra"? stupidest thing i've read in awhile
These little dudes really like the blue stuff..
Strivers
Profile Joined November 2010
United States358 Posts
January 22 2012 20:16 GMT
#145
On January 23 2012 05:05 Gjorg wrote:
I'm going to be really honest here, IEM Kiev was really bad in general

- Why weren't the stream links on top of the list?
- Bad names, "ESL.tv Event"... what event?
- Chat needed mods and slow mode

- Mr.Bitter and Rotterdam are awful casters, they need to stop being biased and not talk about stuff nobody cares about (e.g. what strategies they like most and then repeat it 50 times during one game and laugh at reaper expand being so good over and over again)
- Was there even a crowd? We never got to see the crowd in action, I only heard them once or twice, a crowd is necessary for nerd chills

...
there's more but i'm tired

im not here to rage i just wanted to help out because im sure A LOT of people think the same



Agreed. IEM Kiev one of the worst run tournaments in awhile. player complaints, Zenio "map suck", no HD feed for replay on my iPad, no crowd action, interviewing the loser in a series, etc.

Mr. Bitter always does a great job though..my fav caster

These little dudes really like the blue stuff..
Waterflow
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden1550 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-22 21:12:51
January 22 2012 21:11 GMT
#146
Can't say i enjoyed this tournament. The crowd had no energy and just made a really boring/depressed/dull atmosphere. Where was the action?

This tournament just made me remember how good MLG, Dreamhack, IPL etc really is.

IEM Kiev almost felt like an unimportant ladder game compared to above tournaments. You can do better than this!
ChriseC
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany440 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-22 21:43:44
January 22 2012 21:40 GMT
#147
On January 23 2012 05:05 Gjorg wrote:
I'm going to be really honest here, IEM Kiev was really bad in general

- Why weren't the stream links on top of the list?
- Bad names, "ESL.tv Event"... what event?
- Chat needed mods and slow mode

- Mr.Bitter and Rotterdam are awful casters, they need to stop being biased and not talk about stuff nobody cares about (e.g. what strategies they like most and then repeat it 50 times during one game and laugh at reaper expand being so good over and over again)
- Was there even a crowd? We never got to see the crowd in action, I only heard them once or twice, a crowd is necessary for nerd chills

...
there's more but i'm tired

im not here to rage i just wanted to help out because im sure A LOT of people think the same



i agree

iem kiev was a step back in tournament quality, 5 years ago this would be ok but nowadays u should take mlg/gsl finals/ipl as the new standards. especially the stageplay looks so weird in iem, u dont really see where they sit and hows the crowd is going and there are always alot of other random players preparing for their matches whatever, it just doesnt look like real stageplay in general. thats what i dislike at dreamhack aswell that theres no real stage until the finals, it looks alot like theres going on alot more online than on the event itself. seeing mlg i always feel like "wow i would like to be there" but seeing iem i feel like "nah seeing online is good theres not much of a difference".
i always liked mrbitter and rotterdam but this event it was a bit monotoneous, maybe they should rethink abit and try to bring in some more variety
Choboo
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Sweden2088 Posts
January 22 2012 21:44 GMT
#148
On January 23 2012 05:05 Gjorg wrote:
I'm going to be really honest here, IEM Kiev was really bad in general

- Why weren't the stream links on top of the list?
- Bad names, "ESL.tv Event"... what event?
- Chat needed mods and slow mode

- Mr.Bitter and Rotterdam are awful casters, they need to stop being biased and not talk about stuff nobody cares about (e.g. what strategies they like most and then repeat it 50 times during one game and laugh at reaper expand being so good over and over again)
- Was there even a crowd? We never got to see the crowd in action, I only heard them once or twice, a crowd is necessary for nerd chills

...
there's more but i'm tired

im not here to rage i just wanted to help out because im sure A LOT of people think the same


I agree with most of this but Rotterdam is the best thing that has ever happened to SC2 and he seems to really go well with MrBitter. The casting was really great
SaSe fan club manager
Waterflow
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden1550 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-22 22:22:23
January 22 2012 22:20 GMT
#149
On January 23 2012 06:44 Choboo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2012 05:05 Gjorg wrote:
I'm going to be really honest here, IEM Kiev was really bad in general

- Why weren't the stream links on top of the list?
- Bad names, "ESL.tv Event"... what event?
- Chat needed mods and slow mode

- Mr.Bitter and Rotterdam are awful casters, they need to stop being biased and not talk about stuff nobody cares about (e.g. what strategies they like most and then repeat it 50 times during one game and laugh at reaper expand being so good over and over again)
- Was there even a crowd? We never got to see the crowd in action, I only heard them once or twice, a crowd is necessary for nerd chills

...
there's more but i'm tired

im not here to rage i just wanted to help out because im sure A LOT of people think the same


I agree with most of this but Rotterdam is the best thing that has ever happened to SC2 and he seems to really go well with MrBitter. The casting was really great


yeah RotterdaM (especially RotterdaM ) and MrBitter are great. Only complaint i have about them though is that they should start focusing more on the casting and stop blabbering so much about random stuff . Ofcourse it's fun if they talk about random stuff now and then but aslong as they don't do it too often.

And the blalalalalalalalalalala about one player over and over and over and over again get's tiresome. We get that you like Kas, Dimaga and HappyZerg. But talking about it all the time takes focus away from the actual game and casting and it's really a bit biased to some extent. We get it they are good players and nice guys and HappyZerg "can lift a car" or whatever XD.

You can talk about that on your free time guys :D The jokes are appreciated and everything but don't salt and pepper too much... keep it evenly seasoned!
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10673 Posts
January 23 2012 01:20 GMT
#150
On January 19 2012 14:38 Sliver wrote:
WOW that is a lot of Protoss.


That's exactly what my first thought was as well! And... Awesome pic with QXC !! ^_^ , I love how his hair is blowing in the wind with the statue of liberty and the eagle on his chest, so epic
AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting
mariogames142
Profile Joined January 2012
India1 Post
January 23 2012 05:34 GMT
#151
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Corsica
Profile Joined February 2011
Ukraine1854 Posts
January 23 2012 14:46 GMT
#152
On January 23 2012 06:11 Waterflow wrote:
Can't say i enjoyed this tournament. The crowd had no energy and just made a really boring/depressed/dull atmosphere. Where was the action?

This tournament just made me remember how good MLG, Dreamhack, IPL etc really is.

IEM Kiev almost felt like an unimportant ladder game compared to above tournaments. You can do better than this!


Yeah after HSC4 compared to this level of production it looked silly, but for me its not that important, I enjoyed games a lot especially Zenio-Kas series, best series of the year for now (1. Its Korean code S class vs top EU terran 2. Its TvZ 3. Did I mention its foreigner vs korean? :D). But tbh I feel that IEM tournaments dont fell like important ones for some reasons
Corsica
Profile Joined February 2011
Ukraine1854 Posts
January 23 2012 14:50 GMT
#153
Also, Its because of the country, you cant expect to go to Germany and then to Ukraine and receive same production quality because its much poorer country and therefore people dont care about e-sports that much (but cs :D). If we will have IEM [Insert poorer country] then most likely production/spectator base would be lower.
Necosarius
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Sweden4042 Posts
January 23 2012 19:32 GMT
#154
Are there any pictures from this event?
Waterflow
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden1550 Posts
January 24 2012 19:41 GMT
#155
On January 23 2012 23:50 Corsica wrote:
Also, Its because of the country, you cant expect to go to Germany and then to Ukraine and receive same production quality because its much poorer country and therefore people dont care about e-sports that much (but cs :D). If we will have IEM [Insert poorer country] then most likely production/spectator base would be lower.


Hopefully more people in Ukraine will get more interested in SC2 then I just want you to know im not bashing on your country in any way. It's great that you have a tournament like this in Ukraine.

I don't know if it's so much about poorer country maybe more that as you said cs is what most people play in Ukraine? Maybe now with this tournament more Ukrainians will open their eyes for Starcraft 2.

In my case i got interested in Starcraft 2 when Dreamhack Invitational Stockholm started. I watched the whole tournament and i fell in love with Starcraft 2 and the community

So hopefully if there's a new tournament in Ukraine people will be more cheerful then . Afterall Dimaga and Kas did well there so there should already be some new Ukrainian SC2 fans born.
GuYuTe-
Profile Joined February 2005
United States550 Posts
January 25 2012 11:08 GMT
#156
The casting was the only redeeming quality regarding the production of this tourney imo. The skill level was there for near MLG-esque epicness but it just felt a bit lackluster in the end. I'm sure they'll get 'em next time!
JawHun
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States151 Posts
January 26 2012 17:10 GMT
#157
That's the best picture of QXC ever. Oh my god yes
Lortab
Profile Joined January 2011
United States20 Posts
January 26 2012 18:50 GMT
#158
Did Dimaga beat MMA?? Cant find results anywhere.
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