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[GSTL] All Kill Central

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[GSTL] All Kill Central

Text byHeyoka
Graphics byHawaiianPig
August 23rd, 2011 22:57 GMT

WEEK 8

All Kills A Plenty

Seriously They're Everywhere

What We Do
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Venus Group

Jupiter Group

Fantasy GSTL

Week 9 Preview
This past week there were four matches! Whoa. More games! More fun!

Unfortunately there ended up being a similar amount of games as a normal week when three of them ended in all kills. That doesn't mean that the quality of games suffered, at least. This batch has some of the closest games in the league yet, complete with awesome efforts from foreign favorites Thorzain, NaNiwa, Fenix, and Moon.

As the season winds down each week becomes more important, each match separating the men from the boys with very real consequences for failing to meet expectations. There is still just enough play left to allow for more than a few terror-filled moments from fans and players alike, as teams chances hinge on single games and battles.

Here we are. Two weeks to go.

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You can find more info on Liquipedia


Two weeks to determine who goes home, and who remains.


Here is the tale of two groups.

Week 8
Venus Group

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F.United against SlayerS
by confusedcrib
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(P)SocceR < Bel'shir Beach > (T)Taeja -
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3.5/5
(Z)Moon < Tal'Darim Altar > (T)Taeja -
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3/5
(T)ThorZaIN < Antiga Shipyard > (T)Taeja -
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3.5/5
(P)NaNiwa < Terminus RE > (T)Taeja -
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2/5

F.United 0 < 4 SlayerS


F.United opened with WeMadeFox's SocceR, a player desperate to prove himself in SC2. (P)SocceR went up against the often underrated (T)Taeja. Taeja used a nice one rax expand into quick four rax pressure to get ahead, following up his huge lead with a two base timing to end the game. The game wouldn't have been all too spectacular, but Taeja used some of that trademark SlayerS tactical brilliance to make the game very exciting.

F.United was hoping to show off (Z)Moon's talent against (T)Taeja and sent him out next. Moon executed a fantastic hold of Taeja's hellion marine timing while teching to lair. Moon had a great idea in going for a baneling bust counter, but Taeja's banshee and drop hit Moon's unprotected main at the same time. Both players held, each taking serious damage in the process. The game went macro, with Moon making some great decisions capable of beating any lesser player. Despite having a huge advantage, as many Zergs have learned through defeat since the beta, it only takes one bad engagement to lose the whole game.

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The One Bad Engagement


Moon got over confident at the twenty minute mark and made the fatal engagement, losing to Taeja.

F.United decided it was time to throw out our dream boy (T)ThorZaIN to shut down (T)Taeja. Slayers_Banshee got nearly 20 SCV kills on an unprepared Thorzain, giving Taeja a huge lead early on. Thorzain went for the standard viking harass followup.

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Just Your Standard Three Viking Harass


Unfortunately, as usually happens with cute things like this, he lost all of his vikings in the retreat. Taeja hit a brilliant off-the-cuff timing to turn a lucky win from a banshee into one worthy of respect.

Finally, it all came down to our Swedish super hero (P)NaNiwa to prevent an all kill. Things went smoothly for both players through the opening phase of the game all the way up until Taeja was able to use a huge drop to eliminate Naniwa's third base for free. Naniwa ventured into the middle of the map, down but definitely not out. After he caught a few of Taeja's units out of position he got over confident and went for a doomed attack.

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Not Such a Good Engagement


The loss was impossible to recover from, and the coveted all-kill went to Taeja.

What to Learn

Game One: Strong Micro and tactical play can turn a solid opener into a win


In Taeja's game against Soccer, he went for four barracks pressure to follow up his one barracks fast expand. This pressure opener is solid, allowing for gas to be allocated to fast medivacs, and is often used by the SlayerS team. Taeja's micro and tactics turned the solid opener into a win as he split up his marines to kill five of Soccer's stalkers for almost no marine loss. A pressure opener turned into a fatal blow, as great micro from Taeja lead to an abundance of probe and unit kills, essentially giving him the game with a strong two base follow up.

Game Two: The importance of well timed transitions


In game two, Moon outplayed Taeja in my eyes, using great decision making to drive his economy while containing Taeja's. Moon knew he was ahead, and was itching to remax with infestors and brood lords to take the game. He sacked all of his army for almost nothing, and Taeja was able to sprint in and kill Moon before his reinforcements were in a good enough position to take back the lead. Had Moon timed his transitions better, or sacked his main army slower, he could have easily won with infesters out.

Game Three: Don't be afraid to deviate from your timing


In Taeja's game against Thorzain, he got a huge lead early on with his cloaked banshees. Thorzain's follow-up viking harass managed to equalize economies though, meaning that had Taeja waited to hit a pre-determined timing attack, it probably would have failed and given Thorzain a chance to come back. Instead, immediately after killing Thorzain's vikings, Taeja followed up with a timing that he knew Thorzain wouldn't be able to stop.

Game Four: Zealot Archon has a small timing window, and don't get greedy


Naniwa had some great macro in the final game of the evening. Protoss was ahead in almost every single aspect, economy and tech, but threw it away in a greedy maneuver. After losing his third base, Naniwa felt further behind than he was, and after catching a few units in the middle of the map, he went for a poorly executed attack that cost him the game. His Zealot Archon composition without storm got absolutely rolled by Taeja's MMMG. Had Nani waited for colossus and just kept expanding, it could have been a very different game. also his 2/2 upgrades finished right after the engagement, which isn't good either.


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Most Valuable against Prime
by bobq
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(P)Tails < Xel’Naga Fortress > (T)MarineKing [image loading] 2/5
(Z)DongRaeGu < Daybreak > (T)MarineKing [image loading] 2.5/5
(Z)DongRaeGu < Dual Sight > (P)anypro [image loading] 3.5/5
(Z)DongRaeGu < Metalopolis 1.1 > (Z)BBoongBBoong [image loading] 2/5
(Z)DongRaeGu < Tal’Darim Altar LE > (T)Optimus [image loading] 1.5/5

MVP 4 > Prime 1


Choose your adventure: Pictures or text!
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Good! DRG needs to be put in his place!

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Whatevs, dude

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So... About that preparation...

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kekeke!

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In the inaugural game Tails’ timing push off a 3-gate expand put him appreciably ahead; forcing MarineKing to lift his orbital and lose significant mining time. MarineKing was having none of that shit, and busted out his own marine-marauder-ghost timing attack to totally crush Tails right before charge finished.

Then the Gu happened.

Against DRG MarineKing’s hellion fast-expand flowed quite naturally into a marine-tank timing push, fortifying the ramp to the Zerg natural and starting the slow crawl of death. His caution proved to be his undoing; DRG used the extra time the slow push gave him to crank out 50 zerglings before launching a brilliant three-pronged attack that cleared out almost all of MKP’s units. The remaining zerglings headed straight across the map to clear out MarineKing’s natural, and from there DRG’s economic lead just compounded. A final push involving soooo many banelings capped off his win.

Prime decided the next sacrifice to the power of the Gu would be anypro. Having seen DRG’s high-economy build last game, anypro went with a nexus-first build to try and keep up. He actually ended up almost completing his nexus before the Gu’s hatch had even started. This wasn’t something DRG was taking sitting down; he promptly threw down a third and quickly shot up to 70 drones. It wasn’t until anypro pushed out with his first colossus that DRG built actual “units”, so he had to fight a holding action and sack his third to survive. Anypro proceeded to pull back and not build any more colossi, and DRG proceeded to build about a dozen corruptors. You’d think that would put anypro into a winning position, wouldn’t you? He even had some great zealot harass, but some key fungals and never ending waves of zerglings overcame even that. Eventually all those useless corruptors turned into brood lords and forced a gg.

As is the way of these things, having failed with P and T Prime turned to Z. BboongBboong and DRG both expanded early, but only BboongBboong was foolish enough to actually build drones. His Dong-ship just stayed at 22 drones, cranked ling-bling, and beat the crap out of him.

The autobot's Prime’s last hope was Optimus, who started strong with a marine push that DRG barely seemed prepared for, but somehow weathered with minimal losses. It was downhill from there; DRG went straight back to the ling-bling playbook, snuck through Optimus’ wall behind retreating SCVs, and sealed MVP’s playoff spot.

It’s telling that the announcers had to remind us that MVP does indeed have players on their team who are not DongRaeGu. They really can’t blame us for forgetting that, though.



Week 8
Jupiter Group

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Incredible Miracle against New Star HoSeo
by Divinek
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(T)Happy <Tal'Darim Altar> (P)Sage
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3/5
(Z)LosirA <Antiga Shipyard> (P)Sage
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1.5/5
(Z)LosirA <Dual Sight> (P)Tassadar
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1.5/5
(Z)LosirA <Xel'Naga Fortress> (T)Jjakji
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2/5
(Z)LosirA <Metalopolis> (T)Shuttle
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1/5


Not going to hide it: Sage is currently my favourite player in this league. Fortunately for him Happy is no slouch and this game promises entertainment.Sage opens up with a cute build comprised of DTs and a warp prism, holding Happy in his base and doing moderate damage. When Happy tries for some counter aggression, a never ending wall of forcefields stops his army dead while Sage gets his 3rd up and running. He never lets the pressure stop, harassing with DTs, blinking stalkers behind mineral lines until he trades much of his army for the Terran 3rd. When Happy tries for the counter attack in a similar manner he ends up over committing and Sage rolls him over countering his counter attack. That'll teach him!

In game 2 both players go for the best economy they can muster early on; Sage with the forge FE and Losira expanding to the gold immediately. Sage builds his way up to a wonderful zealot archon timing attack, which unfortunately meets a mass of zerglings in open ground allowing for far too much of a surround. With his attack failing completely Sage is unable to stop the counterattack of Losira.

Tassadar opts for a quick 3 zealot pressure followed by some DT harass while Losira opts for completely shutting this down. With no gain from his quick tech option, Tassadar tries for an attack which fares well until Losira gets a group of lings into the protoss main, killing every probe and unpowering gateways. From here it’s all too easy for Losira to defend the protoss assault.

Next Jjakji jumps right into his game trying to damage Losira with some bunker pressure, fortunately for the Zerg he is very capable of making many lings early on. Jjakji ends up losing quite a lot for doing no real damage and giving the zerg an early lead. Again we see a player performing a strong push on Losira, threatening to end the game until a group of zerglings run into the main much like last game. This distraction proves enough to allow some great baneling splashes to bust up the scary push. From this point Losira’s macro simply takes over the game until he crashes through the Terran army ending the game.

In the last game Shuttle, like his predecessors, tries for some early harass against Losira, this time trying hellions! Unfortunately for him Losira demonstrates that he can stop all kinds of harass, but Shuttle does take the kind of risk required to win this game in a hidden 3rd expansion. Star sense lets Losira scout this early enough that the Terran can’t garner any real gains from it. Shuttle tries for a desperation attack to make something happen but Losira a-moves all over this with his usual death ball. From here the game is a laugh until Losira completes his all-kill, handing NSHS their first loss.


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F.United against Team SCV Life
by confusedcrib
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(P)Naniwa < (T)Heart
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3.5/5
(T)Fenix > (T)Heart
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2.5/5
(T)Fenix > (T)Clide
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2/5
(T)Fenix < (Z)Revival
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3.5/5
(T)Lyn < (Z)Revival
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0.5/5
(T)Thorzain >(Z)Revival
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4.5/5
(T)Thorzain < (T)Alive
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4/5

F.United 3 < 4 TSL


F.United opened up with our Swedish super hero (P)NaNiwa against TSL's Unknown (T)Heart. Heart started with a three barracks build that tricked Naniwa into thinking he was being all-inned when, in reality, Heart was using his aggressive build to take the gold base. Naniwa played it out brilliantly though, using amazing micro to come out on top despite having less than half the economy of Heart. Despite a big lead, Naniwa showed the danger of staying on zealot-archon for too long, as his army was obliterated by MMMG. And by obliterated, I mean Heart lost five food compared to Naniwa's eighty.

F.United sent out the handsome Peruvian (T)Fenix to shove a stake into (T)Heart. Fenix demonstrated the superiority of mech TvT over bio mech when executed at a high level. With essentially free hellion harass combined with an impenetrable tank force, Fenix held Heart's aggression while using hellions to secure an economic advantage and take the game.

TSL decided to go with (T)Clide, the invincible monster and winner of every GSL*. Clide decided to open with defensive blue flame hellions (including banshee defense) before expanding. This put him way behind Fenix's slightly more risky build right off the bat. The game went super late game TvT, and Clide got to learn how Thor, Raven, Viking, Battlecruiser is superior to pure viking.

*Facts according to Artosis may not be facts

TSL decided that their Zerg player (Z)RevivaL would revive their chances of being all killed by (T)Fenix. Fenix opened hellion, but upon seeing Revival's roaches made a smart switch to marine maurader medivac tank, using the mobility of MMM to pressure Revival. Despite some great macro from Fenix and some not -so-great macro from Revivial, Revival made nine broodlords when Fenix had one viking, and Revival took the game. It was pretty heart breaking.

(T)Lyn was the next choice for F.United, hoping he could take out (Z)RevivaL. Lyn opened with huge two barracks + SCV pressure that Revival easily held with some great micro and decision making. Lyn then stayed on two bases while allowing Revival to get up to four with absolutely no pressure. Revival easily took the game by just waiting for Lyn to push out with his 100 supply army and dominating it with a 200 supply force with superior upgrades.

It was up to the Swedish clutch (T)ThorZaIN to take out (Z)RevivaL. He did just that, showing off some amazing play in game six. Thorzain played a very patient style, with a focus on upgrades and SCVs, using the bare minimum to defend until he was near invincible against muta-baneling. Thorzain played brilliantly.

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Just Giving The Best Game of The Series, No Biggie.

It all came down to (T)ThorZaIN vs. (T)aLive, with aLive undoubtedly preparing to snipe the Swede. Thorzain took a large lead early on with two rax pressure that did some huge damage. Thorzain expanded behind it, even getting a turret up for banshee defense. After multi -pronged hellion harass, Thorzain was actually behind in SCVs despite his early lead. As the game equalized, Thorzain played brilliantly against aLive's pure mech style, but ended up losing to a banshee. It I was sad.


Fantasy? Fantasy! Fantasy.



Fantasy
by bobq

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Sigh


You know fantasy league, I want to love you. I really do. I want to believe that I could study the scene, pick a team, and make a competitive run at the top. And over these last few weeks, you almost had me fooled. Points were reasonably well distributed; there weren’t any seemingly-random all-kills that catapulted people to the top by (almost) blind luck. Sure, there were upsets, and some people over performed and some people underperformed. All within reason, though. The whole thing seemed almost sane...

But then there was this week. Then there was him. Don’t get me wrong, there was some other wacky shit in fantasy this week, like Losira and Taeja getting all-kills, but I’d just like to gripe about DongRaeGu for a bit.

He’s just too good at this. His all-kill this week makes him 10-0 this season. He’s won every single game his team’s put him out for, and since the rest of his team just isn’t very good, that means they put him out an awful lot. Of a possible 16 wins in his team’s appearances, he has 10. Want to have a winning fantasy team? You’d better have picked DongRaeGu! It’s almost impossible to not have an at least passable team with him on it. The leader board is a list of people who picked the best supporting cast for the unstoppable beast.

Speaking of leader boards, since fantasy points haven't fully updated for this week, we don't have an update! Hooray! This is kind of hilarious, because before I realized points weren't updated I was ready to crow about Dooooooor sneaking into the top ten without DRG on his team, but now I get to feel silly for thinking that was even possible. Oh well! I'm just going to pretend it's true, since I want it to be so bad.


Next week! An important week! They're all important at this point really, unless you're one of the teams already eliminated. Sorry FXOpen.

Week 9
by Divinek

Jupiter Group, August 25

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F.United against Prime
Starts: (T)ThorZaIN, (Z)BBoongBBoong


It is very refreshing to say that F.United is undeniably the favourite coming into this match. They have been performing amazingly, and despite their match against SlayerS their other showings have been spectacular. Also be serious: Prime? Hah! They haven't had the strength in their lineup necessary to take an entire match. They have few, if any, players of the caliber required to knock out strong opponents, as their 'ace' MKP has been severely under performing in team games. 4-2 F.united.

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SlayerS against Old Generations
Starters: (T)GanZi, (Z)Cezanne


Let's be honest, besides their ownage-fest against the foreign team last week SlayerS has been sucking. Big time. They haven't looked like their previous form at all and are going to have an extremely difficult time making the playoffs. The team right behind them in the Jupiter Race for Last Place is one that even with the strength of Kratoss can't manage to do well in a team league. This will truly be a match for morale more than any thing, which ever team wins this game may be the one that gets fired up enough to actually make an impact for the rest of the season. 4-3 Slayers.

Venus Group, August 26

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ZeNEX against New Star HoSeo
Starters: (P)Tassadar, (T)Byun


Here we have a team that has never really done well, against a team that is looking absolutely amazing this season. What is there to say about this match other than I really hope sage falls victim to cheese and Puzzle can dominate? Should be an easy win for NSHS but...not going to bet my shirt on it. 4-2 nsh.


Enjoy your time, because the first season of GSTL is coming to a close. We are nearly at that time which will crown new kings and forget aging gamers, a time that will test the mental toughness of player and coach alike. Post season time.

A toast for future all-killers.


This GSTL update was brought to you thanks to Divinek, confusedcrib, bobq, and Heyoka in no particular order. Thanks to HawaiianPig for the graphics! The GSTL is pretty awesome so we are likely to will do this in the future, check back soon to find results or berate your favorite player for losing.
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jimchoi11
Profile Joined August 2011
United States65 Posts
August 23 2011 22:58 GMT
#2
"teaja you all kill!"
Lucidx
Profile Joined December 2010
United States122 Posts
August 23 2011 23:02 GMT
#3
Wow. That was quite the crazy sets of matches
" I would rather get AIDS then get hit by a bus then have my expansion blocked by a pylon" - Day[9]
DoomsVille
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada4885 Posts
August 23 2011 23:08 GMT
#4
If only I wasn't stupid enough to avoid bomber and DRG lol

(I'm the highest team that doesn't have either of them).
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
August 23 2011 23:09 GMT
#5
allkill allkill allkill FUCKING GREAT MATCH

funited hwaiting~
NuclearJudas
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
6546 Posts
August 23 2011 23:09 GMT
#6
Excellent write-up.
Life is like Tetris. Your errors pile up but your accomplishments disappear. - Robert Ohlén | http://railroaddiary.wordpress.com/ - My words about stuff.
mprs
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2933 Posts
August 23 2011 23:10 GMT
#7
IM not making it to the playoffs would be an Incredible Tragedy.
We talkin about PRACTICE
koolaid1990
Profile Joined September 2010
831 Posts
August 23 2011 23:14 GMT
#8
I want oGs to win just so i can see MC........ PREEEAAASE
MAXaMillion
Profile Joined March 2011
United States27 Posts
August 23 2011 23:14 GMT
#9
Another FUnited 4-3

ps Shuttle was T not P
Genovi
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden388 Posts
August 23 2011 23:15 GMT
#10
Its a shame that F. United did not manage to irk out the win over TSL. Was soo close
We fucking lost team - RTZ
skrzmark
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1528 Posts
August 23 2011 23:17 GMT
#11
lol... no wonder why the writer of this article is no good at Fantasy GSTL look at his predictions.
We got them GOM TvT's and them mlGG's
onPHYRE
Profile Joined October 2010
Bulgaria923 Posts
August 23 2011 23:17 GMT
#12
DRG is a monster. 'Nuff said.
Livin' this life like it was written.
Craminit
Profile Joined June 2011
United States58 Posts
August 23 2011 23:19 GMT
#13
getting down to the wire
nautx99
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada13 Posts
August 23 2011 23:39 GMT
#14
*Facts according to Artosis may not be facts


lol
Victoria Concordia Crescit
Swiftly
Profile Joined March 2011
Iceland160 Posts
August 23 2011 23:41 GMT
#15
i predict ganzi all kill and byun all kill
"If you dont like the smell of burning meat then get the fuck off the planet" - Immortal Technique
RoninShogun
Profile Joined November 2010
United States315 Posts
August 23 2011 23:53 GMT
#16
Ohhhhh F.United....
On the plus side, everyones favorite zerg 3 letter abbreviation player had a good showing
Artosis: Yeah I was gonna probe rush but someone did that yesterday
Laneir
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1160 Posts
August 24 2011 00:04 GMT
#17
Poor F United T.T
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Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-24 00:21:56
August 24 2011 00:21 GMT
#18
Whoops, wasn't even linking the right shuttle

On August 24 2011 08:17 skrzmark wrote:
lol... no wonder why the writer of this article is no good at Fantasy GSTL look at his predictions.


now to be fair Divinek usually the predictions and I'm the one who can never win in fantasy

*My predictions may be just as bad/worse
@RealHeyoka | ESL / DreamHack StarCraft Lead
Phaded
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia579 Posts
August 24 2011 00:44 GMT
#19
2 all kills for taeja now, what a nerdstomper
I am down but I am far from over
XRaDiiX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada1730 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-24 00:51:38
August 24 2011 00:50 GMT
#20
Wow Fenix is a new up and comer or something he got a win against Heart and Clide (Two Koreans)

Could this be why Fenix left FnaticMSI.

Taeja and DongRaeGu are Beasts.!!!!

Never GG MKP | IdrA
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8304 Posts
August 24 2011 01:07 GMT
#21
fantastic write up as always
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
Naeroon
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada166 Posts
August 24 2011 01:12 GMT
#22
Nice write-up.

Although I got to say I wish the name of this article could be changed to reduce spoilers. I'm out in British Columbia visiting family and have to catch up on the GSTL games, so having 'All Kill Central - GSTL Week 8' on the front page was kind of a piss-off for me. :/
CeriseCherries
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
6170 Posts
August 24 2011 01:26 GMT
#23
Man, that Taeja AK was his second. Losira is good enough to deserve one, and I really don't understand why a team with MVP/Losira/Nestea should EVER lose if they try a little
Remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
bkrow
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia8532 Posts
August 24 2011 01:42 GMT
#24
On August 24 2011 09:50 XRaDiiX wrote:
Wow Fenix is a new up and comer or something he got a win against Heart and Clide (Two Koreans)

Could this be why Fenix left FnaticMSI.

Taeja and DongRaeGu are Beasts.!!!!


Not sure if you are being serious? Fenix is definitely not a "new up and comer" - he's been around forever? He was a household name up until a few months ago when he started slumping a little bit.

A lot of individual performances this week always good to see. Glad to see DRG hitting some good form leading up to MLG.
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
August 24 2011 01:45 GMT
#25
prime has polt who is better than all of f. united... and naniwa is going to MLG... so no F.United is not the favorite at all and i sincerely doubt the go more than 4-1 or MAYBE 4-2... (i hope im wrong for clarity sake gogogogogo forgieners)
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mobius_1
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2763 Posts
August 24 2011 02:01 GMT
#26
The maps that F United vs TSL were played on would be nice to know and add to the OP to appease my OCD senses

But wow, Taeja, DRG and Losira are pretty good.
Starleague Forever. RIP KT Violet~
chaopow
Profile Joined March 2011
United States556 Posts
August 24 2011 02:13 GMT
#27
Keep it up F. United! Will be cheering for you guys always!
Soowoo AD.
EnSky
Profile Joined June 2011
Philippines1003 Posts
August 24 2011 02:24 GMT
#28
So, 6 teams will advance to the playoffs right?
Rasun
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States787 Posts
August 24 2011 02:32 GMT
#29
The power of the Gu is unmatched and can not be withstood, it is known. DRG! DRG!
"People need to just settle the fuck down!"- Djwheat <3
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
August 24 2011 02:39 GMT
#30
*Facts according to Artosis may not be facts




It's okay. Eventually Clide will win something.. might not be in Korea, or never.
Horse...falcon
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1851 Posts
August 24 2011 04:11 GMT
#31
I feel so bad for anyone who drafted Nestea in GSTL. Especially if you picked him to be your captain.
Artosis: "From horsssse....falcon"
Maghetti
Profile Joined May 2008
United States2429 Posts
August 24 2011 04:35 GMT
#32
Not sure why the op downplays the oGs vs SlayerS match as mostly being for morale when that is a critically important game for both oGs and SlayerS. If SlayerS wins and FU losses I think that means SlayerS to the playoffs. At the very least SlayerS an oGs HAVE to win to have a chance to advance.
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
August 24 2011 04:40 GMT
#33
MMMMM, FUnited makes a yummy cake of foreigner goodness
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
MarineFTW
Profile Joined April 2011
42 Posts
August 24 2011 05:07 GMT
#34
What? Prime "haven't had the strength in their lineup"? Against a team of 6 players? 3 of which are practicing WC3 lately? 4 of which are looking for a new team now?
Anyone from {MKP, Optimus, HongUn} can just all-kill FUnited. Or at least snipe ThorZain/Naniwa, which would make the rest an easy kill.
VirgilSC2
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States6151 Posts
August 24 2011 05:15 GMT
#35
I really can't help but feel bad for NSHS, they had to go up against an IM taking the match seriously for once, not to mention a LosirA fresh off a stinging elimination from Code S.

Fantastic write-up as usual
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skrzmark
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1528 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-24 06:15:37
August 24 2011 06:14 GMT
#36
On August 24 2011 09:21 heyoka wrote:
Whoops, wasn't even linking the right shuttle

Show nested quote +
On August 24 2011 08:17 skrzmark wrote:
lol... no wonder why the writer of this article is no good at Fantasy GSTL look at his predictions.


now to be fair Divinek usually the predictions and I'm the one who can never win in fantasy

<font size=1>*My predictions may be just as bad/worse</font>


oGs-SlayerS 4-1
Prime-F.United 4-2
ZeNEX-NSHS 4-1

On August 24 2011 10:26 CeriseCherries wrote:
Man, that Taeja AK was his second. Losira is good enough to deserve one, and I really don't understand why a team with MVP/Losira/Nestea should EVER lose if they try a little


Losira also got his 2nd all-kill.
We got them GOM TvT's and them mlGG's
Montana[TK]
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
1624 Posts
August 24 2011 07:01 GMT
#37
Sorry OP, but you lose a ton of credibility in regards to the Korean scene if you say stuff like

"DRG’s won every single game his team’s put him out for, and since the rest of his team just isn’t very good ..."

Keen, Monster and Noblesse certainly all are very good up-and-comers and they train their heart out in the MVP house, according to b_unnies they get kicked out of the house if they fall out of their races' top 20 in GM.
Plexa: "It's not [caster] bashing when its the truth."
Fanatic-Templar
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada5819 Posts
August 24 2011 07:08 GMT
#38
Listen people, I know that as a largely non-contributing member of this community it is not my place to give important people nicknames, so I've been waiting for someone else to do this, but how has ThorZain not been nicknamed the Iceberg Terran yet?

His games in Korea have clearly demonstrated the style of slowly, inexorably, crushing his way through victory. Also, Scandinavian.

Seriously people, make it so!
I bear this sig to commemorate the loss of the team icon that commemorated Oversky's 2008-2009 Proleague Round 1 performance.
DanCaek
Profile Joined July 2011
Lebanon71 Posts
August 24 2011 07:10 GMT
#39
Zergies owning it up like hell!! Good show indeed! Only problem with all kills is you don't get to see other top notch players fighting it out .. Still, these were great games
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confusedcrib
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1307 Posts
August 24 2011 07:22 GMT
#40
On August 24 2011 16:01 Montana[TK] wrote:
Sorry OP, but you lose a ton of credibility in regards to the Korean scene if you say stuff like

"DRG’s won every single game his team’s put him out for, and since the rest of his team just isn’t very good ..."

Keen, Monster and Noblesse certainly all are very good up-and-comers and they train their heart out in the MVP house, according to b_unnies they get kicked out of the house if they fall out of their races' top 20 in GM.


Ya OP, the other teammates are up and comers. OP has no Korean street cred. Darn OP
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Stanlot
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5742 Posts
August 24 2011 07:39 GMT
#41
I love oGs and SlayerS but I want SlayerS to win so bad ;_;

Also, I have made the realization after finally looking closer that the logo for New Star HoSeo actually contains all the letters N S and H. Mind, consider yourself blown.
MC: "Sentry Forcefield Forcefield Marauder... cage Marauder die die"
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
August 24 2011 07:47 GMT
#42
If Ganzi all-kills this week, Slayers has a chance to reach the playoffs, don't they?
Gh86
Profile Joined June 2011
646 Posts
August 24 2011 08:13 GMT
#43
On August 24 2011 15:14 skrzmark wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2011 09:21 heyoka wrote:
Whoops, wasn't even linking the right shuttle

On August 24 2011 08:17 skrzmark wrote:
lol... no wonder why the writer of this article is no good at Fantasy GSTL look at his predictions.


now to be fair Divinek usually the predictions and I'm the one who can never win in fantasy

<font size=1>*My predictions may be just as bad/worse</font>


oGs-SlayerS 4-1
Prime-F.United 4-2
ZeNEX-NSHS 4-1

Show nested quote +
On August 24 2011 10:26 CeriseCherries wrote:
Man, that Taeja AK was his second. Losira is good enough to deserve one, and I really don't understand why a team with MVP/Losira/Nestea should EVER lose if they try a little


Losira also got his 2nd all-kill.


Ironically, both of them all-killed the same team before, poor
+ Show Spoiler +
ZENEX
Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
August 24 2011 08:50 GMT
#44
On August 24 2011 16:01 Montana[TK] wrote:
Sorry OP, but you lose a ton of credibility in regards to the Korean scene if you say stuff like

"DRG’s won every single game his team’s put him out for, and since the rest of his team just isn’t very good ..."

Keen, Monster and Noblesse certainly all are very good up-and-comers and they train their heart out in the MVP house, according to b_unnies they get kicked out of the house if they fall out of their races' top 20 in GM.


Well to be fair and someone can double check my numbers, but I think MVP without DRG in gstl is 12-20 lifetime, while DRG is 15-1.

First 2 games this season they go down 3-1, then DRG comes out to 3 kill each time for the win. They don't play DRG against F.United and they lose. MVP loses first game to prime, then decide it's time to bring out final boss for game 2 and then he all kills. It's not a stretch to say mvp is team DRG! ;p
Top 10 favourite pros: MKP, MVP, MC, Nestea, DRG, Jaedong, Flash, Life, Creator, Leenock
OhYess
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada41 Posts
August 24 2011 09:00 GMT
#45
brb changing my legal name to have Dong in it.

It's the sure fire way to be a god at Zerg.
Stanlot
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5742 Posts
August 24 2011 09:22 GMT
#46
On August 24 2011 18:00 OhYess wrote:
brb changing my legal name to have Dong in it.

It's the sure fire way to be a god at Zerg.

I thought it was having Jae in your name instantly made you a zerg god
MC: "Sentry Forcefield Forcefield Marauder... cage Marauder die die"
Quantum314
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England217 Posts
August 24 2011 09:22 GMT
#47
On August 24 2011 07:57 heyoka wrote:

The game went macro, with Moon making some great decisions capable of beating any lesser playr. Despite having a huge advantage, as many Zergs have learned through defeat since the beta, it only takes one bad engagement to lose the whole game.




A fantastic write up, and thoroughly enjoyable to read. Though it was marred by a missing "E". Standards of TL are slipping everywhere...

But seriously, I get all warm and lovely inside whenever I see these write ups. They have the effect of rekindling the excitement that the LR threads used to have. Awesome job!
"Physicists are atoms way of thinking about atoms"
Deleted User 169839
Profile Joined April 2011
25 Posts
August 24 2011 10:05 GMT
#48
Even though they got all killed by slayers I think F.united show serious promise, Fenix was sick, the game against Clide was unreal.
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-24 13:19:33
August 24 2011 13:17 GMT
#49
Didn't the GSTL have a point system where you got more or less points depending on the score difference of the match?

edit: NVM, must have misunderstood Cella's interview, where he said that they had a chance if they all-kill again or something along those lines.
sVnteen
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany2238 Posts
August 24 2011 15:06 GMT
#50
man i hope taht f-united will make it to the playoffs
will make it far more interesting
MY LIFE STARTS NOW ♥
Eufouria
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom4425 Posts
August 24 2011 15:36 GMT
#51
On August 24 2011 22:17 JustPassingBy wrote:
Didn't the GSTL have a point system where you got more or less points depending on the score difference of the match?

edit: NVM, must have misunderstood Cella's interview, where he said that they had a chance if they all-kill again or something along those lines.

If teams are tied then it goes down to games won-games lost.

On August 24 2011 16:22 confusedcrib wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2011 16:01 Montana[TK] wrote:
Sorry OP, but you lose a ton of credibility in regards to the Korean scene if you say stuff like

"DRG’s won every single game his team’s put him out for, and since the rest of his team just isn’t very good ..."

Keen, Monster and Noblesse certainly all are very good up-and-comers and they train their heart out in the MVP house, according to b_unnies they get kicked out of the house if they fall out of their races' top 20 in GM.


Ya OP, the other teammates are up and comers. OP has no Korean street cred. Darn OP

Well this is the team league, and when you look at the team league the only player other than DRG who you can really claim has performed well is Guineapig, with Genius doing pretty well the few times he has played.
JudgeHolden
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada11 Posts
August 24 2011 16:11 GMT
#52
Ahhh! Excrement!
ㅈㅈ
Sicariidae
Profile Joined May 2011
50 Posts
August 24 2011 16:33 GMT
#53
On August 24 2011 16:47 JustPassingBy wrote:
If Ganzi all-kills this week, Slayers has a chance to reach the playoffs, don't they?


Two different circumstances based on whether or not Prime win or lose...

First of all, assuming Prime beats F.United

SlayerS have to win to qualify, obviously. They also need to lose by less than one game against oGsTL than Prime do against F.United, then they qualify.

So, 4-0 or 4-1 vs oGsTL puts SlayerS through. Then, 4-2 and 4-3 if the Prime vs. F.United score is 4-1 or 4-2 respectively.

After that, the oGsTL vs F.United match would be irrelevant because they would both be 1-3 with 15 sets lost. Even if SlayerS won 4-3, they win have only lost 15 sets, so a oGsTL or F.United 4-0 would put them equal on sets lost, but SlayerS would have won both head-to-heads, so would advance.

Secondly, if Prime lose to F.United.

This one is much simpler. F.United would have to lose to oGsTL. Then, F.United have 15 set losess (minimum - assuming they 4-0 Prime) and the maximum SlayerS could have would be 15, if they beat oGsTL 4-3. Again, even a 4-0 for oGsTL vs F.United would leave them with 15 set losses. And, they both would have lost head-to-heads with SlayerS, so SlayerS would advance.

Hope this clears some things up.
EchoZ
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Japan5041 Posts
August 24 2011 18:07 GMT
#54
F.United got this :D
Dear Sixsmith...
Chibithor
Profile Joined April 2011
Brazil514 Posts
August 24 2011 19:50 GMT
#55
I was very surprised to see 'heart breaking' without it being a joke on Naniwa v Heart. Now I can't even use it myself
TurbineBlade
Profile Joined July 2011
United States117 Posts
August 24 2011 22:12 GMT
#56
Great write up! Im glad to see that IM isn't scared to use some of their better payers right now.
Incredible Miracle :: LosirA :: NaDa :: YellOw
careohx
Profile Joined June 2011
263 Posts
August 24 2011 22:29 GMT
#57
about the 4-2 Fu vs Prime i think the writer forgot that Naniwa is going to MLG so probably wont be there so its really up to Thorzain, Fenix might get a 1-2 kills but i wouldnt count on either soccer or lyn coz they are just plain and simply horrible, moon could take a game if he gets a good night sleep.
Scrandom
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada2819 Posts
August 25 2011 01:55 GMT
#58
I always like this write ups but the ratings never make sense to me. It always rates it to the point where someone who didn't watch would never want to watch anything, never seen a positive rating given
jimchoi11
Profile Joined August 2011
United States65 Posts
August 25 2011 05:12 GMT
#59
f united vs TSL should have been picture of fenix he was the mvp in that series.
FLiP491
Profile Joined November 2010
United States124 Posts
August 25 2011 05:50 GMT
#60
am i the only one that thinks this would be better delivered by day 9 and a couple unbelievably hot women?

or maybe just the women?
ArchDC
Profile Joined May 2011
Malaysia1996 Posts
August 25 2011 06:14 GMT
#61
Nice write-up!!!
Drowsy
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States4876 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-25 06:46:05
August 25 2011 06:44 GMT
#62
Fantasy teamleague has taught me that the people who perform well in individual leagues are not necessarily going to do well in teamleague and vice versa. The ability to study your opponent and prepare for a BO3-7 for a week is very different from coming out and beating a bunch of players in BO1s in different matchups. The two aces I drafted in the beginning, MKP and Nestea, are not good at one of these skillsets.
Our Protoss, Who art in Aiur HongUn be Thy name; Thy stalker come, Thy will be blunk, on ladder as it is in Micro Tourny. Give us this win in our daily ladder, and forgive us our cheeses, As we forgive those who play zerg against us.
LogiiK
Profile Joined June 2011
France185 Posts
August 25 2011 11:28 GMT
#63
The F-united match is over?
AvantNoir
Profile Joined July 2011
United States3 Posts
August 25 2011 15:09 GMT
#64
"It is very refreshing to say that F.United is undeniably the favourite coming into this match. They have been performing amazingly, and despite their match against SlayerS their other showings have been spectacular. Also be serious: Prime? Hah! They haven't had the strength in their lineup necessary to take an entire match. They have few, if any, players of the caliber required to knock out strong opponents, as their 'ace' MKP has been severely under performing in team games. 4-2 F.united."

LOL more like Prime's first player all-killed F.united
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-25 17:46:50
August 25 2011 17:45 GMT
#65
Sigh, 80% of TL writers don't watch enough GSL. No wonder they thought f. united was better than prime.

+ Show Spoiler +
But keep on predicting its one of the best parts of amazing write ups
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Divinek
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada4045 Posts
August 25 2011 20:19 GMT
#66
You can always look smart predicting the past lol. And favourites can get all killed see qxc vs the universe. Thought they could certainly perform better than that! I blame nani
Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
Oh goodness me, FOX tv where do you get your sight? Can't you keep track, the puck is black. That's why the ice is white.
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
August 25 2011 20:59 GMT
#67
On August 26 2011 05:19 Divinek wrote:
You can always look smart predicting the past lol. And favourites can get all killed see qxc vs the universe. Thought they could certainly perform better than that! I blame nani

They would just have sent out Polt to clean up.

F.United's due for another close series next time. It's a trend: 4-3 MVP, 0-4 SlayerS, 3-4 TSL, 0-4 Prime.
Karis Vas Ryaar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States4396 Posts
August 26 2011 02:20 GMT
#68
taeja all kill was easy to see. code a ro4 player and probable favorite, he plays an insane tvt and has swept mkp in tournaments before, against a bunch of players who couldnt get out of round 1 of cide a. no offense to f. united intended. i really respect them what they're doing and i'm a huge moon fan. but taeja is extremely underrated and at one point he was one game away from beating july and going to mlg columbus.
"I'm not agreeing with a lot of Virus's decisions but they are working" Tasteless. Ipl4 Losers Bracket Virus 2-1 Maru
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
August 26 2011 17:25 GMT
#69
On August 26 2011 05:19 Divinek wrote:
You can always look smart predicting the past lol. And favourites can get all killed see qxc vs the universe. Thought they could certainly perform better than that! I blame nani


so do i look smart cause i got bboong bboong on my fantasy team?
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Fatze
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Germany1342 Posts
August 26 2011 17:58 GMT
#70
nice article
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Clog
Profile Joined January 2011
United States950 Posts
August 29 2011 17:48 GMT
#71
"F.United is undeniably the favourite coming into this match." Pretty bold statement... the word "undeniably" especially is pretty out of place. Bias in these write-ups is starting to get to me =/
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NeonFox
Profile Joined January 2011
2373 Posts
August 30 2011 09:22 GMT
#72
Thorzain has been increasingly impressive, he has a very crisp play and he seems to learn so fast.
iRk
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden83 Posts
September 01 2011 14:58 GMT
#73
Nice write-up!
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