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Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27148 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-11-12 14:30:27
November 12 2004 06:08 GMT
#1
Boxer vs Yellow

Game 1, Game 2, Game 3.

Maps dont matter, starting positions dont matter. It was all the same.

Boxer rax -> depot, 6 scv + 2 marine rush, Yellow 12 hatch evertime, gg x3. In only one game did Yellow even get a unit other than a drone, overlord, or zergling.

The rush by Boxer was perfect. His timing was such that unless Yellow went pool first, there was no way he could stop this rush. Boxer said after he wanted to play an low economy control based game, but instead he just won.

I have my own opinion on this strategy, but last time I posted it it was rebuffed vigorously. :p However, add your two cents in the tourny section where there are three threads going at it.

Nov 19th: Yellow vs Reach for third place.
Nov 20th: Boxer vs Iloveoov in the finals.
ModeratorGodfather
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51446 Posts
November 12 2004 06:10 GMT
#2
nice report mani!!!
Commentator
Eclipse.fX
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Canada125 Posts
November 12 2004 06:11 GMT
#3
Such a wasted oppurtunity for Yellow.
24949
AsleepDan
Profile Joined November 2004
80 Posts
November 12 2004 06:13 GMT
#4
man i would have liked to see these games
Ponny
Profile Joined November 2004
Sweden21 Posts
November 12 2004 06:14 GMT
#5
cant belive that yellow didnt changed build in the 3 game ? or did he thought that boxer would change cuz that he thought that yellow would change ?

Confused...
Carnac
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Germany / USA16648 Posts
November 12 2004 06:24 GMT
#6
awesome, detailed reports as always, mani....., oh no....., wait ^^
ModeratorHi! I'm a .signature *virus*! Copy me into your ~/.signature to help me spread!
DJ_Heather
Profile Joined February 2004
Korea (South)174 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-11-12 06:32:33
November 12 2004 06:31 GMT
#7
KTFT might regret paying big money for OSL. Next step is kicking out their progame team. lol
MSN : kimseokin@hotmail.com
NoName
Profile Joined October 2002
United States1558 Posts
November 12 2004 06:34 GMT
#8
How lame. Boxer is going to be punished by OOV.
Wam-bam-ba-boom! Bada-bing!
Eti307
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
Canada3442 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-11-12 06:36:27
November 12 2004 06:36 GMT
#9
read uhjoo comment about this game ... I completely agree with him, yellow had his reasons
DJ_Heather
Profile Joined February 2004
Korea (South)174 Posts
November 12 2004 06:36 GMT
#10
Bye Reach, he would follow Silent_Control T_T
MSN : kimseokin@hotmail.com
Elvin_vn
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
Vietnam2038 Posts
November 12 2004 06:42 GMT
#11
On November 12 2004 15:14 Ponny wrote:
cant belive that yellow didnt changed build in the 3 game ? or did he thought that boxer would change cuz that he thought that yellow would change ?

Confused...


yellow was gamble. If yellow could pull out boxer's rush, he'll be on big advantage.
do not agrue with idiots, they will pull you down to their level and beat you with their experiences
Veg
Profile Joined October 2002
Canada2945 Posts
November 12 2004 06:49 GMT
#12
rofl

lim still has the art
asdasdas
oPtioNaLk
Profile Joined September 2004
Korea (South)564 Posts
November 12 2004 06:52 GMT
#13
All three games... quite lame. Thought Boxer had more class than that. -_-;;
A3iL3r0n
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States2196 Posts
November 12 2004 06:52 GMT
#14
Who else has the massive gonads to do this?

Greatest.
Player.
Ever.
My psychiatrist says I have deep-seated Ragneuroses :(
EAGER-beaver
Profile Joined March 2004
Canada2799 Posts
November 12 2004 07:02 GMT
#15
Wow, I'm super pissed that the games were crap, and that yellow lost, to pure gay-up-the-ass-ness, but I'm still amazed, lol. If anything I respect boxer even more, lol.
Simon and Garfunkel rock my face off
CommanderVodka
Profile Joined July 2004
Canada78 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-11-12 07:08:43
November 12 2004 07:08 GMT
#16
i woke up this morning, expecting awesome games, then i see this =[
Jim
Profile Joined November 2003
Sweden1965 Posts
November 12 2004 07:12 GMT
#17
On November 12 2004 16:08 CommanderVodka wrote:
i woke up this morning, expecting awesome games, then i see this =[

the games were awesome. to me micro and timing is much more interesting to see than standard play gogo marinemedictankvessel.
To sup with the mighty ones, one must climb the path of daggers.
x2fst
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
1272 Posts
November 12 2004 07:22 GMT
#18
well, you need mad skillz to pull thta off 3 times in a row.
muda, is a crime for me to wear a shirt, cos I is so good lookin
EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22254 Posts
November 12 2004 07:29 GMT
#19
Haha, best battle report ever.

I stayed up all night to read about this (many props to waxangel ^^) and this is what we get.

Sure, you gotta respect the skill it took to do that, but I mean, it's just so disappointing, I think everyone was expecting exciting, epic games... and instead we get pure rape.
Moderatorhttp://carbonleaf.yuku.com/topic/408/t/So-I-proposed-at-a-Carbon-Leaf-concert.html ***** RIP Geoff
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
November 12 2004 07:33 GMT
#20
Short'n'sweet.

Did you watch the games live? O_o
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
DevilZbOy
Profile Joined November 2004
United States36 Posts
November 12 2004 07:54 GMT
#21
i say who cares what happans, a win is a win!. its sad how people diss boxer because of 3 cheese rushes!, but when you think about it, whos " sadder " Boxer for doing it? or Yellow because he lost to it 3 times? hohoho. Cheap or not cheap, he won so get over it : )
Locked
Profile Joined September 2004
United States4182 Posts
November 12 2004 07:58 GMT
#22
boxer is great

i would've thought that yellow would atleast switch builds the 3rd time T_T
UMS map pack http://teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=50442
Ceril
Profile Joined April 2003
Sweden1343 Posts
November 12 2004 07:59 GMT
#23
NOOOOOOO!
Just because you can now store where everyone was and is, what they like, what they fear who they talk to and who they love. It does not mean we should so spy upon our fellow man in a dystopia far worse then 1984
blasian
Profile Joined October 2004
United States180 Posts
November 12 2004 08:40 GMT
#24
haha don't be jealous of boxer
blasian = black and asian
Jim
Profile Joined November 2003
Sweden1965 Posts
November 12 2004 08:52 GMT
#25
I really think it should have been a more detailed battle report. It must have been small differences in bo(like one scv extra somewhere). Or perhaps which way he scouted. Where he put the bunker and why that was the perfect spot etc etc.

Ps. It was not my intention to sound rude or offensive. I just find a bit odd that these games which clearly was very entertaining get one line and some pathetic standard game that ends in marine/medic/tank/vessel after 15 minutes gets 30 lines.
To sup with the mighty ones, one must climb the path of daggers.
EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22254 Posts
November 12 2004 08:53 GMT
#26
On November 12 2004 16:54 DevilZbOy wrote:
i say who cares what happans, a win is a win!. its sad how people diss boxer because of 3 cheese rushes!, but when you think about it, whos " sadder " Boxer for doing it? or Yellow because he lost to it 3 times? hohoho. Cheap or not cheap, he won so get over it : )


Of course... Boxer supporters will say that Boxer played perfectly, and that Yellow should've adjusted... Boxer haters will say it was cheap and cheesy...

I'm just let down that it was over so quickly. I wanted to see some GG's, even though I still predicted Boxer winning in the end. How often these days do you not only get two art players together, but the top two art players of all time?

Now the finals will be art vs macro TvT~
Moderatorhttp://carbonleaf.yuku.com/topic/408/t/So-I-proposed-at-a-Carbon-Leaf-concert.html ***** RIP Geoff
cava
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
United States1035 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-11-12 08:57:29
November 12 2004 08:57 GMT
#27
i dont see why this is considered cheap or cheesy, his build was simply designed to punish fast expo and guess what? yellow fast expo.


its the same principle as making zels to counter tanks or goons to counter vultures
cava!
Zorglub1
Profile Joined October 2004
Denmark532 Posts
November 12 2004 09:14 GMT
#28
DJ_Heather will you marrry me?
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27148 Posts
November 12 2004 09:18 GMT
#29
I stayed up until 4 am to watch these games live. From that perspective, I wished that they had been better games >.<
ModeratorGodfather
karelen
Profile Joined October 2003
Sweden2407 Posts
November 12 2004 10:12 GMT
#30
in depth coverage at its best
zzzzzz
exalted
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States3612 Posts
November 12 2004 11:00 GMT
#31
manifesto is a zerg player, if i were him i'd be fucking pissed as well
too easy
KH1031
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
United States862 Posts
November 12 2004 11:02 GMT
#32
-_-


great match eh...

gg'd
DragonzPlay
Profile Joined July 2004
Germany75 Posts
November 12 2004 11:14 GMT
#33
might not matter but call me curious

what map was it?
same for all three?
forgive if this is posted already somewhere else
ksw82529
Profile Joined October 2004
Korea (South)55 Posts
November 12 2004 11:18 GMT
#34
In second game, yellow used 10 hatch build.
Minam_Lee
Profile Joined July 2004
Korea (South)59 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-11-12 12:14:32
November 12 2004 12:12 GMT
#35
i just got all three files
but i don't know where i up load these files
anyone can tell me where do i up load these
mrmin123 *
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Korea (South)2971 Posts
November 12 2004 12:21 GMT
#36
hahahhahhahaha
Translator태양은 묘지위에 붉게 떠오르고 / 한낮에 찌는 더위는 나의 시련 일찌라!
useLess
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States4781 Posts
November 12 2004 12:50 GMT
#37
I recall waitiing last week for nice, juicy reports of this megaton clash, and lo and behold, we find that Boxer bunkered Yellow three times in a row. Fantastic.
Moonlight Shadow
Jesus Christ
Profile Joined October 2004
United States35 Posts
November 12 2004 12:58 GMT
#38
damn, i wanted yellow to win --;
Giggle
uhjoo
Profile Joined October 2004
Korea (South)1740 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-11-12 13:21:53
November 12 2004 13:18 GMT
#39
actually, i think game 1 was pretty different than games 2 and 3 (both of which ended with yellow's inability to beat the scv/rine rush). so i'll just recap quickly what i remember.

yellow actually had a shot in game 1 on pellennor ever, although he clearly was at a disadvantage from boxer's devastating scv rush. if i recall the game correctly, when boxer came in with the rush, yellow cancelled his hatch right before it finished (and boxer correspondingly also cancelled his bunker almost simultaneously). boxer then went a fast acad build and retreated back home and started massing m and m. yellow went *3 hatch*, taking his gas expo. this is where i think yellow could have just decided to get faster lurker out of 2 hatch, so he could actually play more aggressively. i suppose this decision of yellow was partly because of the map imbalance (as it's too easy for zerg to get pinned in if terran takes that cliff area where the gas expo is). but in any case, as yellow went a very hungry 3 hatch, boxer massed m and m outside yellow's base and teched to tank/vessel. yellow went lurker and boxer very importantly made a wraith from his port which really was a thorn in yellow's side-- not only hunting overlords, but forcing yellow to cancel a morphing lurker as well and demanding more micro from yellow. In the meantime boxer set up shop outside yellow's choke with m&m/tank, slowly building turret/bunker to solidify that position. yellow could have tried to research drop but instead chose to try to break the gauntlet with link/lurk from three different directions. but ~ 6 lurk/20 ling vs. 2 well-placed bunkers, turrets, 3~4 tanks, and at least 1 control group of m&m meant that he failed to break boxer's hold on his choke, and yellow's subsequent attempt around 45 seconds later with around 12 lings and 5 lurks was also a failure. that's when yellow gg'ed.

i think yellow had a few opportunities to win or at least extend the game further-- i personally think it was a big mistake to take his gas natural before getting lurkers, and also to try to force his way out of his base through a pretty much invincible tank/bunker/turret/m&m line instead of researching ovie drop/speed. but of course, it's easier said than done and hindsight is 20/20 ;P
i want bubbles the warrior monkey back
RiSE
Profile Joined April 2004
United States3182 Posts
November 12 2004 13:25 GMT
#40
Boxer is god.
heavy hand upon the land, feel it's weight inside you
HowitZer
Profile Joined February 2003
United States1610 Posts
November 12 2004 13:34 GMT
#41
On November 12 2004 22:18 uhjoo wrote:
actually, i think game 1 was pretty different than games 2 and 3 (both of which ended with yellow's inability to beat the scv/rine rush). so i'll just recap quickly what i remember.

yellow actually had a shot in game 1 on pellennor ever, although he clearly was at a disadvantage from boxer's devastating scv rush. if i recall the game correctly, when boxer came in with the rush, yellow cancelled his hatch right before it finished (and boxer correspondingly also cancelled his bunker almost simultaneously). boxer then went a fast acad build and retreated back home and started massing m and m. yellow went *3 hatch*, taking his gas expo. this is where i think yellow could have just decided to get faster lurker out of 2 hatch, so he could actually play more aggressively. i suppose this decision of yellow was partly because of the map imbalance (as it's too easy for zerg to get pinned in if terran takes that cliff area where the gas expo is). but in any case, as yellow went a very hungry 3 hatch, boxer massed m and m outside yellow's base and teched to tank/vessel. yellow went lurker and boxer very importantly made a wraith from his port which really was a thorn in yellow's side-- not only hunting overlords, but forcing yellow to cancel a morphing lurker as well and demanding more micro from yellow. In the meantime boxer set up shop outside yellow's choke with m&m/tank, slowly building turret/bunker to solidify that position. yellow could have tried to research drop but instead chose to try to break the gauntlet with link/lurk from three different directions. but ~ 6 lurk/20 ling vs. 2 well-placed bunkers, turrets, 3~4 tanks, and at least 1 control group of m&m meant that he failed to break boxer's hold on his choke, and yellow's subsequent attempt around 45 seconds later with around 12 lings and 5 lurks was also a failure. that's when yellow gg'ed.

i think yellow had a few opportunities to win or at least extend the game further-- i personally think it was a big mistake to take his gas natural before getting lurkers, and also to try to force his way out of his base through a pretty much invincible tank/bunker/turret/m&m line instead of researching ovie drop/speed. but of course, it's easier said than done and hindsight is 20/20 ;P


thanks for the good report.
Human teleportation, molecular decimation, breakdown and reformation is inherently purging. It makes a man acute.
sacrificetheory
Profile Joined September 2004
United States98 Posts
November 12 2004 13:41 GMT
#42
i think that boxer is dishonor himself, and yellow also should be ashamed by not handling it after 3 times///... i just think it was stupid because any body could have done that i dont think just boxer, just like how newbs can sometimes catch people who are better offguard when you dont expect an all out ling rush or you dont expect that you need to build a terran wall.. just as most pros dont build walls, a newb might be able to catch them offguard with such cheapness,.... godammit im so pissed both people i wanted to win lost from dumbness Reach playing wierd, and Yellow getting cheased!
useLess
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States4781 Posts
November 12 2004 14:59 GMT
#43
On November 12 2004 22:41 sacrificetheory wrote:
i think that boxer is dishonor himself, and yellow also should be ashamed by not handling it after 3 times///... i just think it was stupid because any body could have done that i dont think just boxer, just like how newbs can sometimes catch people who are better offguard when you dont expect an all out ling rush or you dont expect that you need to build a terran wall.. just as most pros dont build walls, a newb might be able to catch them offguard with such cheapness,.... godammit im so pissed both people i wanted to win lost from dumbness Reach playing wierd, and Yellow getting cheased!


Our pros are built to handle almost anything, be it rushes or surprises. But from what Im reading, Boxers cheese works because the timing is so critical, and he nails that. But Yellow had to be stubborn and went with the same build.
Moonlight Shadow
ahk-gosu
Profile Joined July 2004
Korea (South)2099 Posts
November 12 2004 15:01 GMT
#44
i hope oov crushes boxer even tho i hate oov and love boxer.
yellow is probably getting pretty fucked up right about now.
jagermeister or a banana cognac orsomething.
Micro.Macro.Scouting.Harassment.
Zoom
Profile Joined January 2004
1111 Posts
November 12 2004 15:08 GMT
#45
"boxers mom has got it goin on"
There's no producing this perfect pose, hit the streets in the freshest clothes. Rip the stage, and bless the shows. Spit the flows and hit the do'
Casper...
Profile Joined October 2002
Liberia4948 Posts
November 12 2004 16:05 GMT
#46
no way he did that
no way he does it again
no way he does it again
fuk
JAM THE FUCKER!
Sharkey
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
668 Posts
November 12 2004 16:12 GMT
#47
What is that saying...
something like:
fool me once and ...
fool me twice and ...
fool me thrice and....

I just can't wait for Oov to pull out his "secret strat" against BoxeR. BoxeR will have to win his TvT games very fast b/c he can't keep up with Oov's macro.
If anyone has any serious prayer requests please PM me. Thx.
cYaN
Profile Joined May 2004
Norway3322 Posts
November 12 2004 16:25 GMT
#48
omg...stop complaining. the guy won 3:0 vs his archrival.
also.... who else would ever do the same strat 3 times in an osl semi? BOXER BABY!
die oov.
AMDme
Profile Joined November 2004
84 Posts
November 12 2004 17:05 GMT
#49
boxer's rush is perfect, like his micro control
BoxeR 4ever
(orky)oTTeR
Profile Joined April 2004
France180 Posts
November 12 2004 17:44 GMT
#50
Boxer is the man.
No Banning yo, I want to react.
eR25-JoeyRay
Profile Joined September 2004
Poland3 Posts
November 12 2004 17:45 GMT
#51
argh i hate bunker rush but boxer has shown once again that he's extremly unordinary player, respect for him. I'm dissapointed though, that we could have had a superb spectacle and instead the were only 3 crappy games :/
mr.FiSt
Profile Joined October 2004
Czech Republic97 Posts
November 12 2004 18:50 GMT
#52
Oov > Boxer
gL hF
TreK
Profile Joined August 2004
Sweden2089 Posts
November 12 2004 18:59 GMT
#53
zerg is getting too good, even boxer has to rush to beat the zerg players -.-a
Bergkamp ftw!
TreK
Profile Joined August 2004
Sweden2089 Posts
November 12 2004 19:00 GMT
#54
if u let zerg fast expand on a gas map...he will take another gas expansion later on...make swarm rush with lurker and then make ultras meanwhile...i think even boxer realise the most effective strategy against zerg is rush..hoho
Bergkamp ftw!
BroLLy
Profile Joined October 2004
Australia11 Posts
November 12 2004 19:12 GMT
#55
Meh, I don't think that zergy is getting too good, it's just that boxer knew that if he could surprise yellow with an offbeat strategy then that's a better idea than playing into what yellow has prepared for. The thing is that each player must have had strats prepared for the other, so boxer just figured 'HAHA, i'll get my prep in first!' This just shows the good logical thinking of Boxer & his awersome ability in micro. But i think that yellow's stubborness not to adjust to Boxer's strats is shocking. I remember yellow as the most flexible player ever, i find it hard to beleive that he got creamed x3 in a row by the same strat, he must have been so demorilised by the 1st game...
Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm.
yOOysi
Profile Joined December 2002
Poland726 Posts
November 12 2004 19:15 GMT
#56
For me this strategy was awensome.

Boxer use his mind, he knows that yellow wouldn't expect this strategy and he will play to make advetage on the start.
Lee Yun Yeol Fighting~!! // Since December 2002 with TL.net
thelucas
Profile Joined October 2004
Slovakia285 Posts
November 12 2004 19:17 GMT
#57
Man unbelievable. I really can believe it. Their chairs must be still cold, when they stop the tournament. Unbelievable.
this is possibility to show what is perfection
Amfey
Profile Joined November 2004
Poland4 Posts
November 12 2004 20:32 GMT
#58
Yellow go 5 spawn^^
5 spawn is the best
2ndFoundation
Profile Joined April 2003
Germany212 Posts
November 12 2004 20:58 GMT
#59
argh wtf this is so sad 8[. hate boxer now.
USMCgamer
Profile Joined September 2004
Korea (South)255 Posts
November 12 2004 21:40 GMT
#60
I hope yellow pwns the living crap out of reach at least :/
Being a marine is great and all but I really wish that I could be a zergling...
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
November 12 2004 23:02 GMT
#61
On November 12 2004 23:59 useless wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2004 22:41 sacrificetheory wrote:
i think that boxer is dishonor himself, and yellow also should be ashamed by not handling it after 3 times///... i just think it was stupid because any body could have done that i dont think just boxer, just like how newbs can sometimes catch people who are better offguard when you dont expect an all out ling rush or you dont expect that you need to build a terran wall.. just as most pros dont build walls, a newb might be able to catch them offguard with such cheapness,.... godammit im so pissed both people i wanted to win lost from dumbness Reach playing wierd, and Yellow getting cheased!


Our pros are built to handle almost anything, be it rushes or surprises. But from what Im reading, Boxers cheese works because the timing is so critical, and he nails that. But Yellow had to be stubborn and went with the same build.


Read other posts such as:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=20115
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=20109

It's not "cheap" to win games. They are professional, they play to WIN.
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
dork_of_death!!
Profile Joined September 2004
United States374 Posts
November 12 2004 23:24 GMT
#62
in light of the fact that some of us with insufficient posts are unable to view the VOD's, in the future it would be nice to have proper battle reports, hopefully with pictures, regardless of how people felt about the match.
GG!!!!!!
Naib
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Hungary4843 Posts
November 12 2004 23:41 GMT
#63
Pansy!!! But nice, hehe:D
Complete the cycle!
wasted
Profile Joined October 2002
Germany1789 Posts
November 12 2004 23:41 GMT
#64
On November 13 2004 08:24 dork_of_death!! wrote:
in light of the fact that some of us with insufficient posts are unable to view the VOD's, in the future it would be nice to have proper battle reports, hopefully with pictures, regardless of how people felt about the match.


you can get the vods here with bittorrent

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=20146

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i just watched the videos, oh jesus, i would have destroyed the studio after THAT match... normally i always want boxer to win. but next time they face each other in an important game, my wishes will be for yellow. that guy needs a damn break from getting boxered
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SonRK
Profile Joined July 2004
United States126 Posts
November 13 2004 00:16 GMT
#65
On November 12 2004 16:08 CommanderVodka wrote:
i woke up this morning, expecting awesome games, then i see this =[


I was expecting much more exciting and closer games, like 3-2 Boxer or 3-2 Yellow.
They were still pretty good because it showed how Boxer practiced it perfectly and how he managed to suceed 3 times in a row.
RaGe
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Belgium9947 Posts
November 13 2004 00:33 GMT
#66
On November 12 2004 17:52 Jim wrote:
Ps. It was not my intention to sound rude or offensive. I just find a bit odd that these games which clearly was very entertaining get one line and some pathetic standard game that ends in marine/medic/tank/vessel after 15 minutes gets 30 lines.


You're being rude towards the game now.
Moderatorsometimes I get intimidated by the size of my right testicle
dork_of_death!!
Profile Joined September 2004
United States374 Posts
November 13 2004 00:43 GMT
#67
thx wasted have the vod's already, and am seeding all 3 torrents for the good of us tl underlings

the first game was actually pretty good though and worthy of a better br

2 and 3 were the same.
GG!!!!!!
Elvin_vn
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
Vietnam2038 Posts
November 13 2004 03:00 GMT
#68
On November 13 2004 09:43 dork_of_death!! wrote:
thx wasted have the vod's already, and am seeding all 3 torrents for the good of us tl underlings

the first game was actually pretty good though and worthy of a better br

2 and 3 were the same.


If in game 2 and 3 yellow goes pool first then we'll see another repitition of game 1.
do not agrue with idiots, they will pull you down to their level and beat you with their experiences
CommanderVodka
Profile Joined July 2004
Canada78 Posts
November 13 2004 03:44 GMT
#69
c'mon, boxer just does the same strat in all 3 games, thats not very exciting, maybe the first game is, but the rest probably arent even worth watching.
Ack1027
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States7873 Posts
November 13 2004 04:50 GMT
#70
Um, the first game is alot different than just m&m&f rush. He uses sci vess, wraith and tank. Good job reporting >,<
Astro577
Profile Joined November 2004
United States12 Posts
November 13 2004 04:55 GMT
#71
nice report.
bio.Joe
Profile Joined January 2004
Czech Republic21 Posts
November 13 2004 07:42 GMT
#72
i wished yellow to win....
but all respect to Boxer, i dont think there is someone else who could kill yellow with bunker rush 3 times in a row.
and i think boxer might have been worried about longer game vs yellow. but thats out of question now
bio.Joe
Profile Joined January 2004
Czech Republic21 Posts
November 13 2004 07:47 GMT
#73
bio.Joe
Profile Joined January 2004
Czech Republic21 Posts
November 13 2004 07:51 GMT
#74
will there be any live stream from the finals in english? video, audio or whatever?
Klogon
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
MURICA15980 Posts
November 13 2004 08:56 GMT
#75
No, none in English. And unless you have a paid account, your out of luck for a live broadcast. Wait for the VODs.
imRadu
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
1798 Posts
November 13 2004 09:31 GMT
#76
yku5788 75t5cccc253c64 264hr 4vc5



got style?
Its really good to see that some people dont let education get in the way of their ignorance
dnaxmen
Profile Joined July 2004
Australia124 Posts
November 13 2004 11:39 GMT
#77
yellow still stay in the shadow of boxer even though he is the best record guy in the KT-KTF league. boxer take some mental advantage over him all the time.
DNA
VdP]EpiphaNy
Profile Joined March 2004
United Kingdom992 Posts
November 13 2004 21:36 GMT
#78
just over 5 minutes into the vod of the first game, when boxer then yellow talk at the camera backstage or something for a bit, can a resident korean please translate? (so sorry if this has been requested/posted already but there are so many goddamn threads about this and i dont have the effort to look thru them all)
Reach - I love protoss because its tough and straight. Its a race for the men
mightypenny_ph
Profile Joined September 2004
Philippines259 Posts
November 13 2004 23:36 GMT
#79
boxer won!!! no question bout that!!! i hope boxer will own oovs ass!!!!!!!!! oov is so boring, he doesnt take much risk... lol
SlayerS_`BoxeR` + [ReD]NaDa
VdP]EpiphaNy
Profile Joined March 2004
United Kingdom992 Posts
November 14 2004 02:18 GMT
#80
it's disturbing how many people are disappointed at boxer for his play and feel he should have made an effort to "entertain" the public...?!!?! would prefer to watch boxer and yellow in something of a WWE style choreographed long game of broodwar with lots of pre planned cute stuff and showboating? i know i wouldn't, that would be fake and shitty and get very very dull. playing to win is where the entertainment comes from.
Reach - I love protoss because its tough and straight. Its a race for the men
OverTheUnder
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States2929 Posts
November 14 2004 06:28 GMT
#81
yea, i know alot of ppl have already said this but the bottem line is, they are pros. The play starcraft to get paid and their FIRST priority is to win and if they HAPPEN to be entertaining then all the better:D You can express all the dissapointment you want but to try to excuse the or take away the "honor" ( or w/e) from the players really isn't your place and its like getting mad at a plumber for fixing your toliet as fast and effiecntly as possible-_- Opinion wise i agree with Epiphany, do you really want sc to turn into another WWE?!!
Honor would be taking it up the ass and curing all diseases, damn how stupid can people get. -baal http://puertoricanbw.ytmnd.com/
Valgar
Profile Joined September 2004
United States9 Posts
November 14 2004 07:05 GMT
#82
Does anyone have an idea of what Boxer's exact build order was until he sent out his 2 rines + 6 scv?
Hi
homoerectus_
Profile Joined September 2003
149 Posts
November 14 2004 08:14 GMT
#83
I don't know if I'm more shocked by the stupidity at people blaming Boxer for winning, or not blaming Yellow for losing.

And yes, they are two seperate and distinct things.
badme
Profile Joined February 2004
United States49 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-18 16:30:54
November 14 2004 09:53 GMT
#84
Commander{+}
Profile Joined December 2002
United States2878 Posts
November 14 2004 10:07 GMT
#85
LOL thats sooo lame. boxer is the craziest BW player ever, props to him!
4 cheers for Ryan307
sznapa
Profile Joined November 2004
Czech Republic8 Posts
November 14 2004 13:49 GMT
#86
ssregitoss
Profile Joined September 2004
Turkey241 Posts
November 14 2004 23:35 GMT
#87
poor yellow.
fenixdown
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Colombia320 Posts
November 15 2004 00:14 GMT
#88
Who the hell told yellow vs boxer is funnier than reach vs oov??? -.-
I love protoss because it is tough and straight. It is a race for the men. - Reach
Mouriner
Profile Joined March 2004
Brazil396 Posts
November 15 2004 04:25 GMT
#89
Very disappointing games
zurg
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
1923 Posts
November 15 2004 06:02 GMT
#90
someone knows the time from the final???
우리는 대-한민국입니다
Sexe
Profile Joined March 2004
Canada448 Posts
November 15 2004 10:26 GMT
#91
Kinda cheap for yellow... but yellow should have changed his build...
We are tough, man. We go out to the ice fields and battle murderous polar bears whose only goal in life is to protect their precious cubes of crystalline water. Rt-S.FakeSteve, Canada Pride
ChinaMan
Profile Joined November 2004
Germany1 Post
Last Edited: 2004-11-16 09:39:54
November 16 2004 09:39 GMT
#92
someone can tell me the name of the song thats played in the background at the beginning&end in the VODs ?
-_-
sinboy
Profile Joined November 2004
Czech Republic28 Posts
November 18 2004 00:05 GMT
#93
boxer rox
sinboy
Profile Joined November 2004
Czech Republic28 Posts
November 18 2004 00:06 GMT
#94
i woud to see it
BoyNeverStop
Profile Joined November 2004
United Kingdom14 Posts
November 18 2004 05:55 GMT
#95
Yellow gogogo!
Nothing is new. Not thing is impossible.
sznapa
Profile Joined November 2004
Czech Republic8 Posts
June 18 2022 02:43 GMT
#96
ha
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