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HorstSchlemmer
Germany114 Posts
Let's see who is considered "good" right now amongst foreigners. Most of them or even all have a broodwar or WC3 background. So, what did they do in the past 10 years? They played at home, maybe 4-8 hours avg each day and their skill transfered to sc2. Now you have the koreans playing 14h a day in a teamhouse for years and their skill transfered to sc2 as well. I think it might come down to the superior mechanics, micro, reaction time etc. that transfers from one game to another. | ||
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xsevR
United States324 Posts
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timtwins
United States49 Posts
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SwEEt[TearS]
Canada1575 Posts
 1:18 "the asians kick the crap out of everybody at this." | ||
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Aquafresh
United States824 Posts
On March 15 2011 07:20 HorstSchlemmer wrote: I think it might come down to the superior mechanics, micro, reaction time etc. that transfers from one game to another. Add general RTS knowledge to this and I think it's 100% correct. These guys have simply spent more time exploring the depths of this type of RTS than anyone else. It is to be expected that their approach to a similar game will be superior. The gaming world has never seen the infrastructure that BW had. Teams with dedicated talent acquisition and development strategies focusing solely on beating out the other 9 (used to be 11) teams will take a game to a whole new level. | ||
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robertdinh
803 Posts
On March 15 2011 06:59 staxringold wrote: You're an idiot, plain and simple. And talk about burying the lead, yeah, there's a problem with sample sizes. Not to mention entirely ignoring the point that skills from other games carry over. Yes some Korean pros are new gamers to SC2, but not nearly all of them. The idea that Koreans are just racially better at games is laughable when you note that their dominance is exclusive to games they practice. If it was racial they could pick up Halo Reach and start winning titles in that if they felt like it. You can't just pick up something and be godly at it, that would be like saying all koreans are gaming savants, no, just on average they are better at rts games. Specifically ones that require macro and micro and repetition. I am sorry this doesn't fit into your IU - marshmallow world, but genetics are not politically correct, they are nature at play, and nature doesn't care about you or how you feel. | ||
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jinorazi
Korea (South)4948 Posts
On March 15 2011 06:30 MusiK wrote: Honestly guys, genes really don't have much to do with this. I honestly think that it's more culture than genetics and here's why: Korean training ethics are insane. They are also like that with other aspects of study too. When I lived in Korea, EVERY kid went to school from 8am to 3-4pm then to afterschool (a kind of mass tutoring) until 12-4 am. That's just with school work, and mind you this kind of thing starts in elementary. In america, it's mostly happy fun time until maybe junior year in highschool when parents freak out about college apps. Now think about this ethic transfered over to SC. That's all it really is. I'm sure if you brought in a bunch of kids in America, trained them with that kind of ethic, then they'll SOME of them will end up as amazing pro gamers. this is true. when i was 9 years old in korea, i to school 8am to 2pm, then i had 3pm to 6pm for hakwon (tutoring). my sister(+6yrs) and brother(+9yrs) had same but their hakwon ended at 9pm. so our time studying from elementary is about 10 to 12 hours a day, increasing with grade. and it was 6 days a week. when i came to the states...it sure was a new experience. | ||
Waxangel
United States33432 Posts
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shire
United States405 Posts
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tensionz
United States130 Posts
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jyLee
United States350 Posts
On March 15 2011 06:22 Beef Noodles wrote: How can you possibly claim that China and Korea have been seperated for 5000 years? Genetics do not operate on political borders. You are right, I am not a genetics major. I am a Chinese history major. Northern Chinese, Manchurians, and Koreans have been constantly intermingling in a significant way until the end of the Qing Dynasty (1900). Obviously, Chinese is a misleading term. Historically China is one of the most ethnically diverse countries in the world. Stop talking about genetics bro. Its obvious you're ignorant and it just looks bad. Genetically speaking Koreans are closer to Mongols and Japanese people than Chinese and this is proven by looking at DNA, not maps or time lines.... Genetics have nothing to do with gaming superiority unless someone proves Koreans have superior mental processing or hand/eye coordination. Training has something to do with it but I also feel like the Korean gaming culture is more condusive to producing pro gamers. There are pc cafes on every corner with blazing (and i mean blazing) high speed internet access and fast computers at dirt cheap prices. It costs like $5 to spend the entire day playing in a cafe and you can have food ordered right to your computer so you dont even have to move. Not to mention you have easy access to pro teams if you are good enough. Lets not forget you have to be good enough to even make it onto a team dorm for practicing to begin with so you have get real good on your own. | ||
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Terranosaurus Rex
United States1 Post
Instead of this  we need THIS  User was banned for this post. | ||
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deerpark87
760 Posts
On March 15 2011 11:29 Terranosaurus Rex wrote: FRACK MY RAGE CANNOT BE CONTAINED ANY LONGER!!!! I am so sick of this. I give props to Jinro for making headway into the GSL, but enough is enough. When are Team Liquid, Idra, White-Ra, Sjow, Moonglade, and Morrow and everybody else gonna finally beast all over these slack jawed faggots! BW/SC2 are white mens games developed by the most uber of uber Californian programmers!!! Koreans couldn't make a good game even if it was called "KimchiCraft". So why should the be the best at playing it? FROM HERE ON OUT NOT ONE STEP BACKWARD UNTIL THE WAR IS WON MEN!!!!! ONWARDS AND UPWARDS UNTIL YOU ARE DEAD OR THE JOB IS DONE!!!!! Instead of this we need THIS User was banned for this post. First of all, happy birthday. Are you sure you are old enough to be going on the interweb? | ||
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sPaM916
United States71 Posts
On March 15 2011 11:29 Terranosaurus Rex wrote: FRACK MY RAGE CANNOT BE CONTAINED ANY LONGER!!!! I am so sick of this. I give props to Jinro for making headway into the GSL, but enough is enough. When are Team Liquid, Idra, White-Ra, Sjow, Moonglade, and Morrow and everybody else gonna finally beast all over these slack jawed faggots! BW/SC2 are white mens games developed by the most uber of uber Californian programmers!!! Koreans couldn't make a good game even if it was called "KimchiCraft". So why should the be the best at playing it? FROM HERE ON OUT NOT ONE STEP BACKWARD UNTIL THE WAR IS WON MEN!!!!! ONWARDS AND UPWARDS UNTIL YOU ARE DEAD OR THE JOB IS DONE!!!!! Instead of this we need THIS User was banned for this post. lolzzzz i hope you were joking | ||
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shire
United States405 Posts
On March 15 2011 11:18 jyLee wrote: Stop talking about genetics bro. Its obvious you're ignorant and it just looks bad. Genetically speaking Koreans are closer to Mongols and Japanese people than Chinese and this is proven by looking at DNA, not maps or time lines.... Genetics have nothing to do with gaming superiority unless someone proves Koreans have superior mental processing or hand/eye coordination. Training has something to do with it but I also feel like the Korean gaming culture is more condusive to producing pro gamers. There are pc cafes on every corner with blazing (and i mean blazing) high speed internet access and fast computers at dirt cheap prices. It costs like $5 to spend the entire day playing in a cafe and you can have food ordered right to your computer so you dont even have to move. Not to mention you have easy access to pro teams if you are good enough. Lets not forget you have to be good enough to even make it onto a team dorm for practicing to begin with so you have get real good on your own. this is true. if you take a look at actual asian history, and not just chinese history, Koreans are more closely related to Mongolians than Chinese. China wasn't always this big. Korea used to be bigger than North and South Korea put in together. Korean borders were stretched out to northern side from North Korea, which are now part of China. You cannot say, because part of past Korean lands are now part of China, that Chinese and Koreans are closely related either. | ||
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mvpAKAenvyME
Canada179 Posts
On March 14 2011 18:35 Silentness wrote: I'm not white either, but I got to agree that Korea is dominating in SC2 and BW at the moment still. Who's going to stop them? BLACK? WHITE? YELLOW? i made this post better. | ||
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T-Rex Returns!!!
United States2 Posts
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l10f
United States3241 Posts
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T-Rex Returns!!!
United States2 Posts
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Qaatar
1409 Posts
On March 14 2011 10:10 GoNZooo wrote: The title/quote is a throwback to an article Carmac wrote a few years ago: http://www.sk-gaming.com/content/17621-Koreans_own_White_Dudes For the few who might be confused; Carmac is the dude holding the mic. Why isn't this article by Carmac linked in the original post of this thread? Seems like most people are raging and discussing xenophobic crap over nothing, as in reality, it was just an inside joke between Moon and Carmac. Seriously....wow. | ||
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