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[OSL] 2010 Bacchus OSL Semi-finals: Calm v Fantasy - Page 2

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hacklebeast
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5090 Posts
January 21 2011 03:23 GMT
#21
ouch kwark, that's harsh. I actualy really enjoyed that series. Sure, it wasn't FvJ: two perfect players doing their best to emulate an immovable object and an unstoppable force (which is some of the most amazing starcraft), but it was entertaining. While you want competence, i just want entertaining.

All of the OSL writers are great at their jobs (hobbies? life-passions? what ever you want to use to describe the task). I hope someday that I can be as good at writing.

It occurred to me, modesty is now an automatic seed O__O, that's just weird.

Protoss: Best, Paralyze, Jangbi, Nal_Ra || Terran: Oov, Boxer, Fantasy, Hiya|| Zerg: Yellow, Zero
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-21 03:25:16
January 21 2011 03:23 GMT
#22
Those ratings are ridiculous.
Watch some GSL matches, come back and then tell me that no games in that semi final deserve more than 1/5.

Seriously -.-
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
lluminium
Profile Joined October 2010
85 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-21 03:28:24
January 21 2011 03:27 GMT
#23
Oh waxangel, "Retrospective" was a goddamn divine read.
(Also, cheers for teaching me a new word in "apotheosis".)

Well done y'all, you guys should become professional writers/journalists.
Al Bundy
Profile Joined April 2010
7257 Posts
January 21 2011 04:02 GMT
#24
I read "Calm and Fantasy faced off in a memorable series to decide the first entrant into the Bacchus 2010 OSL Final."
Then I saw the "match ratings" you gave to these games... :s

Anyways thanks for the reports, I liked the retrospective about Flash.
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~ava
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada378 Posts
January 21 2011 04:11 GMT
#25
I missed the series but the writeup has convinced me not to watch it. The writeup itself was entertaining enough for me!
funnybananaman
Profile Joined April 2009
United States830 Posts
January 21 2011 04:20 GMT
#26
I can't even begin to try and take note of all the bias against Fantasy in these writeups... somehow the overarching theme present in the whole series that calm knew he sucked too bad to play straight up with Fantasy so he cheesed apparently slipped by you kwark. Not only does Calm somehow get props in these articles for 4pooling twice in a row, Fantasy gets criticized when he defends it the second time and thoroughly stomps Calm. And then if you factor in how Calms only other win besides the 4 pool was a speedling runby into 2 hatch lurker its clear he had no shot at beating Fantasy. Fantasy played badly the first game, but beyond there isn't much to criticize. Beyond his incredible "luck" at defending calms 4 base hydra allin in the last game.

And then to say Flash Stork and Jaedong are the only three good players in starcraft, but not include Fantasy? Fantasy the guy taking Flash to a game 5 in an incredibly close tvt semifinal last OSL while Stork was at home sitting on his ass? and then making the finals this OSL when all the maps are horribly imbalanced against terran? give me a break Fantasy has proved himself 10000 times over to be one of the immediate next best after Flash and Jaedong. And if you still somehow think the finals between Stork and Fantasy is going to be one sided and decisive you're in for a surprise.
FractalsOnFire
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Australia1756 Posts
January 21 2011 04:26 GMT
#27
Kwark's write ups were hilarious, i mean i thought they were entertaining but its interesting to see perspective from a person who knows more shit about starcraft than me.
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32274 Posts
January 21 2011 04:39 GMT
#28
The semi's were super entertaining for me. Not super high level. But damn entertaining.
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GHOSTCLAW
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States17042 Posts
January 21 2011 04:49 GMT
#29
Flash vs stork would have been amazing, as Stork just shows dominance in PvT. Flash is starting to fall imo though....so we'll see if he can bring it back up for next season
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n.DieJokes
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3443 Posts
January 21 2011 05:18 GMT
#30
apotheosis? Hats off to you good sir
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endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
January 21 2011 05:21 GMT
#31
I didn't understand what happened in the first game either.
If Fantasy wanted to lose on purpose he couldn't have done better than that.
Nice write up as usual, thanks !
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KimchiFriedRice
Profile Joined May 2009
Canada237 Posts
January 21 2011 05:40 GMT
#32
Awesome read.
Thanks for the write up and now I am hyped up to the max for
today's matches!!! SBG HWAITING!
I will shove Kimchi up your ass and watch you writhe in pain.
baubo
Profile Joined September 2008
China3370 Posts
January 21 2011 05:41 GMT
#33
I don't know what the whole "you can't have Flash v Jaedong" thing is about. You get better played TvZs in the PL by players aren't ranked in the top 10 all the time.
Meh
reincremate
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
China2213 Posts
January 21 2011 05:41 GMT
#34
It says Flash 2-0ed Best, but he 3-0ed him in the NATE MSL.
riyanme
Profile Joined September 2010
Philippines940 Posts
January 21 2011 05:43 GMT
#35
This seasons semifinal isn't interesting except for stork.
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Hautamaki
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Canada1311 Posts
January 21 2011 05:43 GMT
#36
Haha great writeup. Why on earth did they play so badly though? It just doesn't make any sense that guys that practice something for 12 hours a day could put on such a bad show on such a big important stage.

Then again, I'm sure lots of work goes into a lot of horrible movies too....

Thankfully the reporting was of much higher quality than the game play =]
True learning is not the memorization of knowledge; it is the internalization of patterns.
Count9
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
China10928 Posts
January 21 2011 06:06 GMT
#37
Lol, I can imagine watching the semis live and laughing along with the rest of the LR thread, but having to watch it again for analysis must be torture. On a related note, torture seems to produce good articles.
Antoine
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States7481 Posts
January 21 2011 06:20 GMT
#38
On January 21 2011 13:49 GHOSTCLAW wrote:
Flash vs stork would have been amazing, as Stork just shows dominance in PvT. Flash is starting to fall imo though....so we'll see if he can bring it back up for next season

1 bad week = starting to fall? He's still been absolutely dominant in proleague.
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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33299 Posts
January 21 2011 06:30 GMT
#39
On January 21 2011 14:41 reincremate wrote:
It says Flash 2-0ed Best, but he 3-0ed him in the NATE MSL.


thanks

I totally forgot the fighting spirit game for some reason, I only remembered the marathon on match point and the ridiculous contain on ultimatum >_<
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IntoTheEmo
Profile Joined February 2009
Singapore1169 Posts
January 21 2011 06:41 GMT
#40
Now if he had beaten Stork in the Bacchus 2010 semi or final? That's a whole other story. While a loss would be tabulated outside his so called “god” run, a victory would extend it. It would have been the rather large feather in his cap.


I get it, cause Stork is some kind of bird :<

I don't know, while it's true that Flash hasn't played a BoX vs any decent protoss (unless you call Korean Air S2 semis against free decent), he's still managed some solid TvP wins in PL vs Bisu and Stork, though he did lose to Kal on Aztec. Either way, I still wouldn't bet against him vs anyone at the moment, and his invincibility aura is still showing (at least to me, but I'm still relatively new to watching the scene - 2 years) and he qualifies as legendary to me. Though you're probably right, Flash vs Stork semi would have been nuts for publicity and attention and whatnot, it's terrible that they've missed that opportunity.

KwarK's reports are awesome, it's cool to rage every once in a while, I hadn't realized Fantasy screwed up game 1 that bad. That was Calm's series to take .

Thanks again OSL team! Timely entertainment ftw.

MMOs kill APM. However Proleague plus BW Proscene music increase APM -> 100. 이제동 Fighting! Highest ranked Jaedong owner in FPL10 = clearly #1 Jaedong fan~! <- Keeping my sig from 2010
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