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[OSL] Merry X-Mas! Flash and JD are Out - Page 4

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Bwenjarin Raffrack
Profile Joined November 2008
United States322 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-31 16:07:48
December 31 2010 16:00 GMT
#61
On December 31 2010 23:57 Musoeun wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2010 16:35 Bwenjarin Raffrack wrote:
Which other Terran had to play against Protoss on Aztec and Zerg on Icarus? Being eliminated was entirely within reason. Expect him to lose even more games in Winners League as well as he's forced to play on those maps. Honestly, though, rumors of God's death are greatly exaggerated.


Aztec? Okay, really bad luck, Kal's good enough that Flash losing seems entirely "reasonable". But Icarus, while bad for Terran, isn't that bad, and Hyuk usually is "that bad" against Terran - Flash losing that game was ridiculous. Even accepting the loss to Kal, Flash should have gone 2-1 in the group, thus tiebreakers. Obviously that's not what actually happened.

To actually answer your question though: Sea. But he played Stork (50/50) and Shine (Shine's better in that MU right now, and def. better than Hyuk) - and lost his TvT to Mind.


Icarus's ZvT at this point is about comparable to Polaris Rhapsody's TvZ, for all the vitriol that that produced last season, even worse if you consider the usual T>Z baseline. You can say that Flash had no need to throw the dice on an 8rax against Hyuk, and I'd agree from looking at how it turned out and on basic principle. But from Flash's perspective, playing against Action in the practice room, using a strategy that he hadn't employed in a while that had a pretty darn good chance of success probably seemed like a decent idea at the time.

Wouldn't be the first time he overthought himself into a loss.
I'm not as thunk as dreople pink I am.
omg.deus
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Korea (South)150 Posts
December 31 2010 16:35 GMT
#62
it is shocking that JD and Flash are out of the OSL but I don't think it should be. People are just so used to them dominating that they forget that they are playing in a pool of the best players in the world who the majority still loses a large chunk of their games. People aren't giving enough credit to the non-S class players. To even make it to the ro8 OSL you have to be pretty amazingly out of this world at starcraft. They just don't stand out because we are focused on a few players who are just slightly more amazingly out of this world at starcraft.
GoAudio
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Sweden400 Posts
December 31 2010 16:38 GMT
#63
WOW so sad :<
EffOrt[fOu] & Hyvaa[S.G] <3 :D
AJMcSpiffy
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1154 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-31 17:01:59
December 31 2010 16:59 GMT
#64
Wow, I can't believe Jaedong and Flash are both out Definitely doesn't mean the tournament wont be exciting and it could still come down to some nail-biting finals.
If the quarter was in your right hand, that would've been micro
TrueRedemption
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States313 Posts
December 31 2010 17:07 GMT
#65
Great work guys, awesome writeup.
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psychopat
Profile Joined October 2009
Canada417 Posts
December 31 2010 17:11 GMT
#66
lol at the thread title. Perfect follow-up to the interview where Jaedong jokingly said he was gay...

Thanks for the write-up. I don't get to follow as much as I used to so this is a quick way to stay up-to-date.
[Azn]Nada
Profile Joined April 2009
United States275 Posts
December 31 2010 17:20 GMT
#67
LOL "SHITWHEEL" HAHAHAHAH
man that was a completely badass write-up. Thank you guys SO MUCH!
RyuChus
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada442 Posts
December 31 2010 17:20 GMT
#68
Flash and Jaedong. Those were some painful games to watch, unfortunately. Anyways... STORK!!!! Dinotoss!
I have an announcement to make, "Moo!" That is all.
RYZmooN
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada575 Posts
December 31 2010 17:54 GMT
#69
Stork vs Fantasy for final!
How do u doto?
HollowLord
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3862 Posts
December 31 2010 18:14 GMT
#70
This title made me laugh so hard.
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flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-31 18:18:57
December 31 2010 18:18 GMT
#71
Initially I laughed.
Then I kept laughing.
Then I realized Wax was pretty prophetic.

+ Show Spoiler +
Bitch you asked for it.
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
zenMaster
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada761 Posts
December 31 2010 18:32 GMT
#72
Fantasy vs Stork Finals will surely not disappoint.
p4NDemik
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States13896 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-02 06:19:09
December 31 2010 18:43 GMT
#73
On December 31 2010 20:08 Waxangel wrote:
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On December 31 2010 19:22 god_forbids wrote:
On December 31 2010 18:35 Elevators wrote:
Seriously wtf... have Flash and Jaedong been secretly playing SC2 or something? It's hard to believe that both could be out in the Ro16. @_@


My thoughts exactly. I'll bet they're tired of watching BW has-beens take home 100 million won while they battle just as hard for "worthless" titles and ELO. Say what you want but GOM is using a mighty big carrot to get the best players in their tourney and so far it seems to be working.

User was warned for this post


To the mod who warned: did you even read the original post? The quotation marks are there because it's referring to something Milkis wrote in his article -___-. Hell, even without that, it's a perfectly valid post -_-

My fault entirely. Apologies to Elevators, I rushed to judgment on a report and had not read the news story.

edit: *Apologies to god_forbids, can't seem to get much straight in this thread can I.
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TheNessman
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4158 Posts
December 31 2010 19:01 GMT
#74
Reality. Hopefully some of the games will be good though, so i'm pumped.
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MuffinDude
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3837 Posts
December 31 2010 19:05 GMT
#75
Really? Stork winning will be a fluke? We all knew Stork had the potential of getting to the finals every starleague, yet just because Jaedong and Flash got knocked out at the ro16 because of their failure, you end up calling Stork's win a fluke? If you put it that way then how many fluke victories have there been in the last 2 years? If a player who wins gold didn't beat jaedong or flash is counted as a fluke victory, then theres been a lot of flukes victories in the history of starcraft. Yes, we missed potentially epic games, but look at how some jaedong v flash games finals went, some were really disappointing. If you want to blame people, you should go blame jaedong and flash for failing at the ro16.
Zerg can be so abusive sometimes | third member of the "loli is not a crime club" PM konadora to join!
Z3kk
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4099 Posts
December 31 2010 21:25 GMT
#76
I also disagree with Milkis's opinion that the title is worthless merely because Flash and Jaedong got knocked out... There is no way all of those OSLs have been "fluke wins" because the winner didn't defeat Flash and/or JD on the way to the title. It's quite insulting to many players, really... >n<

If Stork or any other player wins, it will be perfectly legitimate and well-deserved. (unless, for some reason, every single one of his opponents plays like garbage, which won't happen o.e)
Failure is not falling down over and over again. Failure is refusing to get back up.
MeteorRise
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada611 Posts
December 31 2010 21:40 GMT
#77
STORK FOR GOLD. OMFG YES.
Elegance, in all things.
Retgery
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1229 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-31 21:55:53
December 31 2010 21:55 GMT
#78
This is Storks year. ALL THE WAY BUDDY!
Fall down 7 times, stand up 8.
Cade
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1420 Posts
December 31 2010 22:29 GMT
#79
Excellent writeup, was a great read =D Thanks!
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10151 Posts
December 31 2010 22:35 GMT
#80
On December 31 2010 15:04 seRapH wrote:
Wow what a title lol
555/5

Only a good title for you... my name means absolutely nothing now lol.

SONG BYONG GOO!!!!! Stork will actually win a gold now!!! :D. he alreayd has, i mean that he won't get another silver =P

Fantasy/Clam/Kal/(insert picture of stork eating fish)
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