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[OSL] Merry X-Mas! Flash and JD are Out - Page 3

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Emon_
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
3925 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-31 09:46:54
December 31 2010 09:45 GMT
#41
Why does (P)Stork need to prove himself against players who can't beat (Z)HoGiL and (Z)Hyuk? Sounds like Flash and Jaedong aren't as good as previous tournaments - otherwise they would have qualified to the Ro8. Jaedongs game against Hogil (Hogil with a whopping barely-30%-ZvZ) was so confusing, I still don't know what that game is. That's 2010 Jaedong for you. So Stork has every right to win the gold and best of luck to Flash & Jaedong in the OSL qualifiers, LOL ^^ Stork will wait for you unless you run into (T)Classic or (T)Ssak again
"I know that human beings and fish can coexist peacefully" -GWB ||
meegrean
Profile Joined May 2008
Thailand7699 Posts
December 31 2010 10:20 GMT
#42
IN STORK I BELIEVE!
Brood War loyalist
god_forbids
Profile Joined October 2010
United States111 Posts
December 31 2010 10:22 GMT
#43
On December 31 2010 18:35 Elevators wrote:
Seriously wtf... have Flash and Jaedong been secretly playing SC2 or something? It's hard to believe that both could be out in the Ro16. @_@


My thoughts exactly. I'll bet they're tired of watching BW has-beens take home 100 million won while they battle just as hard for "worthless" titles and ELO. Say what you want but GOM is using a mighty big carrot to get the best players in their tourney and so far it seems to be working.

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xlat
Profile Joined August 2010
176 Posts
December 31 2010 10:50 GMT
#44
I cried when Jaedong lost to Hogil.. I wanted this OSL to be his revenge on Flash - a final stand before sometimes in the future leaving for sc2 ( I can hope, can't I? )

But Flash also getting knocked out actually made JDs loss easier to live with.

evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12796 Posts
December 31 2010 11:01 GMT
#45
stork don't choke!!
Life is run, it is dance, it is fast, passionate and BAM!, you dance and sing and booze while you can for now is the time and time is mine. Smile and laugh when still can for now is the time and soon you die!
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33603 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-31 11:12:55
December 31 2010 11:08 GMT
#46
On December 31 2010 19:22 god_forbids wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2010 18:35 Elevators wrote:
Seriously wtf... have Flash and Jaedong been secretly playing SC2 or something? It's hard to believe that both could be out in the Ro16. @_@


My thoughts exactly. I'll bet they're tired of watching BW has-beens take home 100 million won while they battle just as hard for "worthless" titles and ELO. Say what you want but GOM is using a mighty big carrot to get the best players in their tourney and so far it seems to be working.

User was warned for this post


To the mod who warned: did you even read the original post? The quotation marks are there because it's referring to something Milkis wrote in his article -___-. Hell, even without that, it's a perfectly valid post -_-
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
nasze_zrodlo
Profile Joined February 2010
Cape Verde111 Posts
December 31 2010 11:23 GMT
#47
On December 31 2010 15:43 Lightwip wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
I disagree with you about the SL win being something less now. It's certainly not a Casy or a July win, and there really aren't any SL winners that aren't really good players in good form. Flash and Jaedong lost in a stupid fashion, so why would they deserve the win? They might have done the same thing against the eventual winner.

Besides, Kal beat Flash. Not in a series, but still.


and Stork beat JD
...
PineappleLumpsToss
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand2434 Posts
December 31 2010 11:42 GMT
#48
Loved the TL Building piece. I also liked the angle of Milkis' article. The whole "to be the best you must beat the best" theory is a reasonable argument, but it's kinda hard to beat the best when the best aren't playing like they're the best.

Whether this OSL's winner is worthy or not, I still like the fact that it's going to be somebody other than Leessang, and more importantly, there's a really good chance it will be a Toss winner (it's been too long between drinks).
maybenexttime
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Poland5809 Posts
December 31 2010 11:45 GMT
#49
I want Kal to win this. I'm a fan of his ever since I've watched his Arena MSL games two years ago. And he's really passionate about BW, he doesn't hide his emotions. Wouldn't be surprised if he dedicated the win to Flash, who saved his life. ^____^V KAL HWAITING!!!

Stork wouldn't be bad either. Legend of the Fall and all that.
Nogardeci89
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States113 Posts
December 31 2010 11:57 GMT
#50
Man i love how i just got spoiled page one of TL :/
Jakalo
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Latvia2350 Posts
December 31 2010 12:13 GMT
#51
On December 31 2010 20:57 Nogardeci89 wrote:
Man i love how i just got spoiled page one of TL :/


Anti spoiling policy only works for this |-| long
Nostalgia is not as good as it used to be.
2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9538 Posts
December 31 2010 12:23 GMT
#52
JD looked so crushed when he lost.. I was really sad for him.

Nice article! Stork fighting~
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SlayerS_BunkiE
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada1715 Posts
December 31 2010 12:57 GMT
#53
Very well written!
I guess I'd have to agree about the lost opportunity for players to take down JD/Flash in an epic OSL run...
If you look at it that way, this could become one of those fluky starleagues where you look back and say: how'd that guy win it all again?
Hopefully not! Really wish we'll still see some epic BW!
iloveby.SlayerS_BunkiE[Shield]
Ambasa
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States29 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-31 13:42:12
December 31 2010 13:22 GMT
#54
On December 31 2010 19:22 god_forbids wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2010 18:35 Elevators wrote:
Seriously wtf... have Flash and Jaedong been secretly playing SC2 or something? It's hard to believe that both could be out in the Ro16. @_@


My thoughts exactly. I'll bet they're tired of watching BW has-beens take home 100 million won while they battle just as hard for "worthless" titles and ELO. Say what you want but GOM is using a mighty big carrot to get the best players in their tourney and so far it seems to be working.

User was warned for this post


Why would they switch to SC2 when SC2 isn't growing at all in Korea o.o; Also the 100 million won is only for the GSLs that's what, 3 times a year or something? (it was just run 3 times in a row this year to determine code A/S). Finally, note that 100 million won is only 1/4th of Flash's BW salary and 1/2 of Jaedongs ~_~

Considering SC2 teams are getting sponsorships from tiny chicken restaurants looking to become popular and.... BW teams are hosted by major corporations, I dunno why any top BW player will switch. "Mighty Big Carrot" is pretty ignorant there when it's not a carrot at all when SC2 hasn't grown at all in Korea since it started, in fact hype has been dying down and it'll probably collapse once D3 comes out.




Also always glad to see people who actually think this Starleague is even halfway worthwhile. This is the first Starleague where I'd be pissed off with an upset, rather than an upset being a funny thing.

Also hilarious to see people who think Jaedong and Flash losing in group stages via flukes is worth it versus BOXs... how delusional is that
I'm the better carbonated milk, thank you. See? I'm even Terran!
Torenhire
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States11681 Posts
December 31 2010 13:46 GMT
#55
OSL Day 1 spoiler below!

+ Show Spoiler +

Stork must read your OSL write-ups, guys.

He's onto you.

- Who do you want to meet in the Ro4
▲ To be honest, I want to face (Z)Modesty, but playing (P)Kal wouldn't be bad either. During the last Starleague, I beat a Protoss in the Ro4 to make the finals. Plus, if I am gonna advance anyway, I'd rather do it by beating out a stronger opponent. I hope a strong player advances so that I don't hear anybody saying 'Blah won because (Z)Jaedong and (T)Flash were knocked out early.'


SirJolt: Well maybe if you weren't so big and stupid, it wouldn't have hit you.
Renkaoru
Profile Joined October 2010
390 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-31 14:02:37
December 31 2010 13:55 GMT
#56
On December 31 2010 19:22 god_forbids wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2010 18:35 Elevators wrote:
Seriously wtf... have Flash and Jaedong been secretly playing SC2 or something? It's hard to believe that both could be out in the Ro16. @_@


My thoughts exactly. I'll bet they're tired of watching BW has-beens take home 100 million won while they battle just as hard for "worthless" titles and ELO. Say what you want but GOM is using a mighty big carrot to get the best players in their tourney and so far it seems to be working.

User was warned for this post


I don't see the need to insert insinuations about SC2 into this topic. It derails the discussion and adds nothing. Also, I'm willing to bet that 99% of the posters in this topic will not classify Starleague titles as worthless, even in the "kidding" sense.

On the other hand, I kinda agree that Stork/Kal should have been the ones to beat Flash/Jaedong out of the OSL. Would have been sweeter that way. And looking at how they're rolling right now, I don't see a reason why they would not be able to do it. Especially Stork.

Edit: Failquote
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xenom00t
Profile Joined February 2009
United States162 Posts
December 31 2010 14:18 GMT
#57
man that sucks to hear as a jaedong fan. but at least it will give someone else a chance to win, even if they have an asterisk by their name
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Musoeun
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States4324 Posts
December 31 2010 14:57 GMT
#58
On December 31 2010 16:35 Bwenjarin Raffrack wrote:
Which other Terran had to play against Protoss on Aztec and Zerg on Icarus? Being eliminated was entirely within reason. Expect him to lose even more games in Winners League as well as he's forced to play on those maps. Honestly, though, rumors of God's death are greatly exaggerated.


Aztec? Okay, really bad luck, Kal's good enough that Flash losing seems entirely "reasonable". But Icarus, while bad for Terran, isn't that bad, and Hyuk usually is "that bad" against Terran - Flash losing that game was ridiculous. Even accepting the loss to Kal, Flash should have gone 2-1 in the group, thus tiebreakers. Obviously that's not what actually happened.

To actually answer your question though: Sea. But he played Stork (50/50) and Shine (Shine's better in that MU right now, and def. better than Hyuk) - and lost his TvT to Mind.
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Sanguinarius
Profile Joined January 2010
United States3427 Posts
December 31 2010 15:18 GMT
#59
wowow. Both flash and JD out. Thats insane.

Defiantly killed my liquibetting. However now I think Stork really have a solid shot at this title. That would be really good for him.

Oh, and thanks for the article. I really enjoy reading these.
Your strength is just an accident arising from the weakness of others -Heart of Darkness
cocoa_sg
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Singapore296 Posts
December 31 2010 15:27 GMT
#60
What an epic writeup, Waxxy! =D MY LIFE FOR AIUR... Song Byung Goo will end his silver streak (well, he did win an OSL, or was it a MSL?)

Until then, here is to hoping for more epic BW matches, and other stars to take up the mantle of the once-mighty Flash and Jaedong trio *evil cackle*! =3
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