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[GSL] “Of Deities or Mortals” - Ro16/Ro8 Recap - Page 3

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Krigwin
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1130 Posts
November 08 2010 18:47 GMT
#41
Is there a reason why you guys are releasing these in huge block formats (ie several days in one post) instead of by the day like you did with GSL1? Sorry if this question has been answered already.

Great writeups as always, thanks a lot for this.
Mawi
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden4365 Posts
November 08 2010 21:40 GMT
#42
Very nice writing! enjoyed every text of it and the awesome Emperor Shirt, no wonder he wins alot, you gotta play like a player
Forever Mirin Zyzz Son of Zeus Brother of Hercules Father of the Aesthetics
BroOd
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Austin10833 Posts
November 08 2010 22:02 GMT
#43
On November 09 2010 03:47 Krigwin wrote:
Is there a reason why you guys are releasing these in huge block formats (ie several days in one post) instead of by the day like you did with GSL1? Sorry if this question has been answered already.

Great writeups as always, thanks a lot for this.

This wasn't the initial plan, we just ran into a couple of hitches and the ro16 got delayed, so we released them together. In the future we're definitely striving to get them out in a more timely manner, but the lateness of this release was my fault and I apologize.
ModeratorSIRL and JLIG.
EcterA
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States949 Posts
November 08 2010 22:22 GMT
#44
On November 09 2010 01:14 Ocedic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2010 19:31 falcon913 wrote:
On November 08 2010 18:43 sk2redd wrote:
dear brood.

please show some professionalism in your writing.

as much as i enjoy your write-ups, your obvious favoritism for certain players is a problem in an otherwise great post.

no matter how you feel the need to personally defend Idra, you should recognize the mistakes he made against the wonderful tactics of Zenio, instead of trying to make excuses for him.

also, your attempt to downplay Zenio's creative maneuver by calling it 'cheese' was just awful, no matter the adjectives that preceded it. i know it sucks that one of us has lost to another korean, but impartiality should be the standard in any review.

excuse my aggression, but i hope that my constructive criticism will be understood as such, and will be used to enhance your future write-ups.

I think it's worth noting that BroOd didn't do the write up on those games, TrueRedemption & Treehugger did Ro16. BroOd simply compiled it all and gave the intro and posted.

Also, I disagree. I thought the information was presented fairly, and while the word "cheesy" is used, it's used after the word "wonderful," implying that the viewer/writer enjoyed the strategy a great deal. IdrA also received a C rating for his play, which was described as "uninspired." I guess I don't understand your aggression, and think that given the content of the post, and the work that went into it, it's unwarranted.

I didn't read all the write ups, and can't speak to whether other events of favoritism are present, but I just felt that the examples you gave were inappropriate and thought I'd offer a different perspective.

As for the OP, well done as always, and thanks for the coverage.


The post made excuses for Idra though, saying "the win isn't that impressive for someone who admitted ZvZ isn't their best" or something. I'm kind of sick of people saying things like "Idra just needs practice at ZvZ." The only thing that matters is results. Until Idra shows actual notcieable improvement in ZvZ, people should stop giving him unwarranted credit for doing nothing.

I understand this. I agree that he seemed to be shut down completely by the overseers and that given the time he's spent in Korea, and the number of tournaments he's competed in, a lot of people expected a better response than what happened.

A lot of my response to the post I quoted was based on his "aggression" towards the writers. While they seemed to give IdrA the benefit of the doubt, in my reading they didn't seem to discredit Zenio's play. I am often put off by members who attack community and staff members for doing work that is largely volunteer based, and in my opinion, of a high quality.

I think it's also worth noting that he's made it GSL twice, and got further the second time. Only one of two foreigners to do make it into season 1 and 2 (I believe) and TLO was eliminated in Ro64. These tournaments are incredibly difficult, especially going into future seasons, when they will only attract more high level players.

All in all, I agree, IdrA is consistently favored to go far in tournaments, and it seems like more often than not he comes up short. You can call that overrated, but I think his accomplishments shouldn't be thrown out so easily. He won MLG D.C., and last season's GSL champ went down in Ro32 this season. Luck plays a large roll, and things are only going to get harder.

To close out this wall of text, I understand what you're saying, and hope you understand where I'm coming from.
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
November 08 2010 22:32 GMT
#45
On November 09 2010 06:40 Mawi wrote:
Very nice writing! enjoyed every text of it and the awesome Emperor Shirt, no wonder he wins alot, you gotta play like a player



Boxer should start owning people in business casual next GSL, imo. Or hell, maybe in a James Bond tuxedo?
Kleinmuuhg
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Vanuatu4091 Posts
November 08 2010 23:01 GMT
#46
Great writup, very enjoyable to read.
Foxer vs KyrixZenith is really so far the best series I have seen in Sc2.
All maps are a must see.
This is our town, scrub
ragingfungus
Profile Joined September 2010
United States271 Posts
November 09 2010 00:05 GMT
#47
Very nice post, though I did lol a bit at the end where its like "what will happen in the round of 4 who will survive!" o wait...

On a side note I think people are exaggerating this whole Idra favoritism thing. The author was simply pointing out that zvz is his worst match up and that he is indeed a better player than that(which is completely true). And also no results are not the only thing that matters. You could literally be the best player in the world and not have qualified for the gsl, unlikely but possible. This game does have an element of luck in it believe it or not in both the brackets and in game. Besides Idra does have pretty good results so I don't know where thats coming from.
Logic>Everything
Chocobo
Profile Joined November 2006
United States1108 Posts
November 09 2010 01:22 GMT
#48
Great writeup... I love these things so that I can find matches when I want to find them later. So easy to find "what game was it where the 6 pool worked where it shouldn't have" or whatever.

Just pointing out an oddity, the player ratings changed from A B C D F to star ratings about halfway through.
HarryHood
Profile Joined August 2010
United States105 Posts
November 09 2010 03:00 GMT
#49
This is probably a n00b question, but I can't seem to find videos of these games and I REALLY want to watch foxer vs Kyrix. Where can I watch them?
It's not like I just one day DECIDED to play Terran. I was born that way, and there isn't one thing I or anybody else can do about it.
Sarang
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia2363 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-09 05:42:20
November 09 2010 05:42 GMT
#50
On November 09 2010 12:00 HarryHood wrote:
This is probably a n00b question, but I can't seem to find videos of these games and I REALLY want to watch foxer vs Kyrix. Where can I watch them?


You can watch game 1 on GOMtv without a season ticket. I don't think you can watch the other games without purchasing a ticket.

Link: http://www.gomtv.net/2010gslopens2/vod/1262
"Killer helped me feel better before coming to the arena. He told me to say that." - Bomber
thekibk
Profile Joined April 2010
United States116 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-09 05:46:32
November 09 2010 05:45 GMT
#51
On November 08 2010 13:46 BroOd wrote:
Boxer is wearing a stylish puce colored button-down shirt for the occasion. This gives him an automatic advantage over Loner, who is wearing a loose-fitting t-shirt.

Kyrix even uses banelings for his trash talking.

I lol'd multiple times throughout this.
These write-ups are so great for people (like me) who have classes the next day.
Thanks so much for all your effort guys! lookin' forward to Ro4!
Corn is no place for a mighty warrior!
brekko
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States16 Posts
November 09 2010 20:08 GMT
#52
in the HopeTorture NEXGenius series I was quite confused after briefly glancing over the recaps as to why the protoss player chose HTs every game...then I read it through a little more thoroughly
if only data would cast itself
PartyBiscuit
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada4525 Posts
November 10 2010 00:35 GMT
#53
I always love the titles of these things.

Side note: I think you forgot to give an overall rating to the series of Foxer v Kyrix and ITR v Genius (since there are overall star ratings for the other Ro8 series')
the farm ends here
Vassago
Profile Joined August 2010
United States8 Posts
November 10 2010 01:23 GMT
#54
good read. thanks. I like Foxer's style, simple yet very strong, but I don't think he can deal with Nestea's strong macro and decision making. He is such a good player that never panics and have a very solid play.

I mean Foxer did penetrated FruitDealer gameplay, I am just not sure if he can manage that againts Nestea.

I am dying to see that match!
hp.Shell
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2527 Posts
November 10 2010 11:36 GMT
#55
On November 08 2010 14:10 ReighT wrote:
It would be very interesting to see + Show Spoiler +
NesTea - the person who beat The Emporer VS. FoxeR - a rookie who came up and took down basically everyone he played so far. One of those people being the previous champ FruitDealer.

Please spoiler this next time....

On November 08 2010 13:46 BroOd wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading][image loading] - Again a one sided route, but well played by HopeTorture.

Bolded part should be replaced by rout. Sorry, I'm picky.

Anyway, great writeup! I mainly wanted to point out any glaring errors because I know you love to write, and it's good to have pride in your craft. ^_^ Looking forward to the Ro4 one.
Please PM me with any songs you like that you think I haven't heard before!
Prof.Oak
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada24 Posts
November 15 2010 13:34 GMT
#56
kyrix vs foxer games 1 and 5 easily best games of gsl
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