• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 19:51
CEST 01:51
KST 08:51
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins EWC 202532Tournament Spotlight: FEL Cracow 202510Power Rank - Esports World Cup 202580RSL Season 1 - Final Week9[ASL19] Finals Recap: Standing Tall15
Community News
[BSL 2025] H2 - Team Wars, Weeklies & SB Ladder8EWC 2025 - Replay Pack4Google Play ASL (Season 20) Announced40BSL Team Wars - Bonyth, Dewalt, Hawk & Sziky teams10Weekly Cups (July 14-20): Final Check-up0
StarCraft 2
General
The GOAT ranking of GOAT rankings Tournament Spotlight: FEL Cracow 2025 Classic: "It's a thick wall to break through to become world champ" Firefly given lifetime ban by ESIC following match-fixing investigation Serral wins EWC 2025
Tourneys
Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) TaeJa vs Creator Bo7 SC Evo Showmatch FEL Cracov 2025 (July 27) - $10,000 live event Esports World Cup 2025
Strategy
How did i lose this ZvP, whats the proper response
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 484 Magnetic Pull Mutation #239 Bad Weather Mutation # 483 Kill Bot Wars Mutation # 482 Wheel of Misfortune
Brood War
General
Which top zerg/toss will fail in qualifiers? BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ 2025 Season 2 Ladder map pool Google Play ASL (Season 20) Announced Flash Announces (and Retracts) Hiatus From ASL
Tourneys
[ASL20] Online Qualifiers Day 1 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Small VOD Thread 2.0 [BSL] Non-Korean Championship - Final weekend
Strategy
Muta micro map competition Does 1 second matter in StarCraft? Simple Questions, Simple Answers [G] Mineral Boosting
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Beyond All Reason Total Annihilation Server - TAForever [MMORPG] Tree of Savior (Successor of Ragnarok)
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Canadian Politics Mega-thread Stop Killing Games - European Citizens Initiative
Fan Clubs
INnoVation Fan Club SKT1 Classic Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Korean Music Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Gtx660 graphics card replacement Installation of Windows 10 suck at "just a moment" Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
TeamLiquid Team Shirt On Sale The Automated Ban List
Blogs
The Link Between Fitness and…
TrAiDoS
momentary artworks from des…
tankgirl
from making sc maps to makin…
Husyelt
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Socialism Anyone?
GreenHorizons
Eight Anniversary as a TL…
Mizenhauer
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 581 users

Gillette OGN StarLeague Preliminary Matches

Forum Index > News
Post a Reply
Normal
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27149 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-04-11 09:57:25
April 11 2004 08:37 GMT
#1
On Friday, OGN held a series of exhibition matches to showcase the four maps that have made it to the final selection stage for the upcoming Gillette StarLeague. You can find images of the maps here and you can download them here.

Match 1: Iloveoov vs Zeus on Mercury.

The first match was between iloveoov and Zeus on Mercury, pitting one of the hottest terran players around against one of the hottest protoss players around. Zeus was just coming off his defeat to Nal_Ra in the last StarLeague final, so I am sure he was intent on starting the new season one the right foot. On the other hand, iloveoov has a huge series of matches against none other than Nada on April 18th. So how would that affect his preparation for a game that, at least standings wise, was insignificant? He would have to be prepared if he wanted to compete with Zeus in this game. Zeus is sporting one of the best PvT OGN records around at 12-2. That experience looked formidable against a largely untested iloveoov record of 2-0 TvP. Could iloveoov keep up his budding winning streak?

Well Zeus answered that question early and abruptly. Starting at the 8 oclock position, Zeus scouted south directly into iloveoovs base, and snuck a probe in before iloveoov could finish his depot/barracks wall-in. Iloveoov started a two factory build, while training a marine to take care of Zeus probe scout. In the protoss base, Zeus made 2 quick zealots sent to hammer at iloveoovs wall, and then switched to goons, who quickly caught up to their zealot brethren. Iloveoovs response to this early threat was questionable, as he made vultures out of his factories, without any machine shop.

Only seeing slow vultures with no mines, and nary a tank in sight, Zeus poured on the pressure sending down more dragoons and starting his tech tree in his

base. It turned out to be unnecessary however, as iloveoov simply did not have enough firepower early on to prevent his wall from being breached. He sent his hapless scvs to fight, but Zeus simply backed up his goons and picked them off. By the time iloveoov finally popped out his tanks, he stood no chance to Zeus growing army and typed GG.

I was disappointed with this match, as I was hoping to see more of the map in use. That was, after all, the whole point of the exhibition matches (as well as to fill up a couple hours on the schedule I guess).

Match 2: Kingdom vs JulyZerg on Requim

As the second match got underway, I was sure that it would be a better game than the first. After all, it featured my favourite zerg player, JulyZerg on a map that neither player had played on TV before. July, at 8-7 overall in OGN play, was up tough though against Kingdom, a protoss player on a mission lately. He qualified for the StarLeague along with TheMarine by defeating Sync and TheMarine in the Duel league, and was trying to bounce back in the StarLeague to avenge his loss to Nal_Ra last time around.

Kingdom warped in his Nexus at the 12 position, while July spawned at the 3 position. This worked in Kingdoms favour from the start, as his scouting probe found the zerg base quickly, and slightly delayed Julys second hatchery which eventually found a home just below his ramp inside his main base. Seeing the close positions, Kingdom put down a second gateway, and his scouting probe was joined by his first zealot inside Julys base before his first six zerglings were half done. Kingdom harassed Julys drones, forcing them to slither from patch to patch without ever returning any minerals. They got down and dirty with the first zealot, suffering a casualty until lings popped to alleviate the pressure. By this time, however, that lone crusading zealot was joined by 2 more, and although all of Julys larvae were being used to make zerglings, July did have enough time to mine 100 gas for speed. With a total of 5 zealots now inside of his base, July was forced to fight with both lings and drones, which cost him four more drones further reducing his economic capacity.

Smelling blood, Kingdom put down a third gateway and continued to pump zealots, not worrying about tech while he sensed this advantage. In fact he didnt have his assimilator up until he was 7 minutes into the game. After another attack on Julys main base, in which 1 sunken colony, 12 lings and eighty percent of Julys drones were forced to defend and destroy his zealots, Kingdom put down both a citadel as well as a robotics facility. In the mean time, July frantically tried to boost his drone count, and started on a very late lair, which would eventually lead to a spire.

Unfortunately for July, his spire never got much use. After Kingdom upgraded his zealot foot speed, he barged into Julys main base yet again, managing to run by the 2 sunken colonies that were defending the zerg ramp. After destroying the nearly completed spire, he turned his attention once again to Julys mineral line. July managed to defeat the already wounded zealots, but as he sent his remaining lings for a counter attack, a deadly protoss shuttle landed in his base. A reaver popped out and commenced the distribution of death amongst the zerg drones. After the first scarab garnered 10 kills, thanks to some grouped drones, JulyZerg tapped out.

Two fast games, to early protoss beatings. It appears that there is no end in sight to the re-emergence of protoss as a race to be feared.

Game 3: NaDa vs Jju on Guernica

To the chagrin of Zerg players everywhere, Guernica is a map that makes it tough for zerg players to get that early expansion. And as Jju went up against NaDa, there was no way that Jju could try anything too risky, as NaDa would take advantage of it in an instant. Jju has a decent ZvT record at OGN at 10-5, but when going up against NaDa, these records mean very little. NaDa, on the other hand, was in the same boat as iloveoov, his opponent in the near future. Two factors would be at play here, how much he prepared for his opponent on a new map, and whether his hair would obscure his vision. Hes looking a little shaggy.

Jju, starting at the 1 oclock position, placed his first hatchery at his choke, while Nada walled himself in with a depot/barracks wall. Jju quickly followed his first hatchery with a second at the 12 oclock expansion; however it was delayed due to a pesky scv, so Jju had no secrets from Nada. The opposite was also true, however, as Jjus overlord was in a nice position to see Nadas lack of marine production from the wall barracks for quite a while until Nadas only 2 marines shooed it away.

After his wall, Nada went for a fast factory, and then up to 2 starports, going for a wraith build. Maybe sensing this because of the minimal marine numbers, Jju went for a hydralisk den, but did not tech up to a lair for quite some time. It turned out to be a good decision for him, because while Nada was performing some mild overlord and drone harassment, Jju massed up an army of twelve hydras and knocked on Nadas front door. Like the big bad wolf, but without the questions, Nadas wall was knocked in and Jju came pouring inside. Nadas two marines had taken shelter inside a bunker, but other than that, Nada only had 3 vultures with no upgrades for defence. He isnt a pushover though, and between the bunker, vultures, and a healthy dose of scvs, Nada managed to defeat the attack. This attack has set Nada back, however, and has given Jju a respite from the wraiths, as Nada slowly lost them in his harassment of Jjus expansion and main. Jju put down his 4th hatchery and continued to pump hydralisks with both speed and range. Nada changed up his strategy to a metal army, and scattered mines across the map. The early success of the mines was evident as some unwary hydralisks got turned inside out by a crafty mine, so Nada took the opportunity to take the 7 oclock main. Jjus lair was very late, and it took him a while to get his overlord speed researched, but he was not idle in the mean time.

Nada came up from 5 oclock with a large metal army made up of tanks, vultures and goliaths. Just outside of Jjus base he was met head on by Jjus enormous hydra army, numbering at least 30. Jju had perfect position as none of his hydras were caught behind the others, allowing them all to fire at the same time. With the superior firing arch, Nadas vultures didnt have the chance to lay any mines, so there was nothing to stem the tide of hydras. Jjus army took heavy losses from Nadas sieged tanks, but Nada was left with nothing. With his base right there, Jju rapidly called together his reinforcements and set off towards Nadas 7 oclock expansion. Nada must not have been expecting such a mammoth defeat in the last battle, because he had no defence there whatsoever. Jju razed the expansion in no time, while Nada tried to counter at Jjus main with another tank/vulture force. Again Jju stops Nada in his tracks, and this gives his army at 7 the opening it needs. It heads straight towards Nadas main, waling in virtually unopposed and manages to kill 2 of Nadas 3 factories. Nada was left with only 1 factory and 4 tanks when Jju retreated and Jju began to drop drones on the middle section of the map, ready to take over economically. It wasnt necessary however, because his next attack on the terran was a frontal combined with a four overlord drop. Nada saw the writing on the wall, and typed GG.

I thought about this game for a bit after seeing it, and it seemed to me that Nada either underestimated his opponent, or didnt care too much about this match. Either way, good solid play by Jju combined with uninspired, almost careless, play by Nada allowed Zerg to reign supreme on this day.

Game 4: TheMarine vs Xellos on Valley of Wind

Well, we were guaranteed at least one terran victor today, as the last game was an all human matchup between TheMarine and Xellos. (Although it is debatable how human these two players are. Marine is on an unnatural tear and Xellos is unable to make any kind of facial expressions.)

The last game was on the map I was looking forward to most, Valley of Wind. It is the only two player map of the four, but its layout is intriguing, as each player is granted control of half the map right of the start. Your opponents base is only accessible by ferrying troops to his portion of the map. What really got me going for this match up was that in TvT on this map, the side of the map you control overlooks the expansions of your opponent. This is going to lead for some mad scrambles for territory in future showdowns.

Marine opened with a fast expansion to his mineral only, thus avoiding an early tanking of his natural, while Xellos opened with a factory CC build, which would allow him to take his gas natural, as well as allow him to defend the cliff behind it with siege tanks.

Marine built two factories, and quickly built another CC at his gas expansion. Both players also sent scvs up to their ridge of the valley to build a turret line to limit the effectiveness of dropships. The action began as Marine sent 2 tanks over to the cliff above Xellos gas natural, and they were met by tanks already in place on the low ground amongst the minerals. Combined with the low ground forces, and a couple helpful wraiths, Xellos managed to force the tanks back out of range. In the mean time, he was attempting to do the same thing to Marines newly build gas natural, and had more success as he halted mineral mining. An interesting aspect of this map, however, is that there is a lot of room to build in the main bases, and Marine just floated his CC over to the other side of his geyser, out of range, and was able to at least reap the benefits of two gas sources. Undaunted by the early setback, Marine expanded again to the 11 oclock expansion, and put up 3 starports and another factory.

By this time Xellos had turned his attention to the territory above his gas natural, and began trying to get rid of Marines remaining turrets and forces there. In addition he prepared 3 dropships for assignment, filling them with 4 tanks and 4 goliaths. Marine, with his ever growing wraith fleet managed to pick off many of Xellos tanks due to a lack of turrets above his natural, and then retreated back to his main to take care of the 3 dropships that had found their way into his base. With Xellos economy running out of steam, and Marine still with his mineral only expansion and his corner expansion, things began to look grim for the youngster. Marine re-established control over the cliff above Xellos gas expansion, and also took control of the southern cliff as well. With no defence in place, Marine ran through Xellos fledgling mineral only expansion without batting an eye or messing up his hair. Marine was now in a position to pound the Valley floor of Xellos main base with tanks on both sides of the valley. Through careful use of his wraith force, Marine continued to focus in on his opponents tanks, allowing him to drop tanks onto the valley floor and squeeze inwards. With nothing left, Xellos typed GG and Marine emerged triumphant.

Marine really worked over Xellos with superior strategy this game, and never really looked like he was in any kind of trouble. The mid-game wraith force gave him the edge, as Xellos relied on too few turrets and goliaths, and as a result lost many tanks unnecessarily.

Game Notes

- I enjoyed checking out the new maps, but to be quite honest, the games themselves were rather one sided. It seems as though some gamers take any appearance on TV seriously, while some of the vets werent too worried about the outcome of anything exhibition.

- The maps I thought were most enjoyable were Valley of Wind and Guernica. Valley of Wind is the most strategically deep map with the most possibilities, and gives players a unique grant of land at the beginning of the game.

I would have liked to see more of Guernica, but the game was quite short. The middle expansions look like they could be abused by siege tanks from all sides. It will be interesting to see what style this map takes.

- Gillette is definitely getting their advertising money out of this venture. Remember those old home video editors (or the Simpsons episode) where you could star swipe to the next scene? Well every time the commentators switched to the first person view, a huge razor swept across the screen, flashing the Gillette name, as a visual segue. In addition, the name was all over the studio, including Julys headphones. I guess for the amount of money they are spending, they want to use it to its fullest potential.

ModeratorGodfather
mensrea
Profile Joined September 2002
Canada5062 Posts
April 11 2004 08:49 GMT
#2
NICE :O
actus non facit reum, nisi mens sit rea.
Klogon
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
MURICA15980 Posts
April 11 2004 08:54 GMT
#3
yay, good report.
mensrea
Profile Joined September 2002
Canada5062 Posts
April 11 2004 09:01 GMT
#4
I like the "Game Notes."
actus non facit reum, nisi mens sit rea.
Orlandu
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
China2450 Posts
April 11 2004 09:03 GMT
#5
Really freaky, just as I started to read the report of NaDa vs Jju on Guernica, the song Guernica by Brand New came on Windows Media Player

Good reports!
We cant give up just because things arent the way we want them to be.
Roman
Profile Joined November 2002
United States2595 Posts
April 11 2004 09:12 GMT
#6
gj
ObsoleteLogic
Profile Joined February 2003
United States3676 Posts
April 11 2004 09:15 GMT
#7
On April 11 2004 17:37 Manifesto7 wrote:
segway


its segue.
sMi.Silent // Siz)Silent
mrmin123 *
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Korea (South)2971 Posts
April 11 2004 09:21 GMT
#8
Damn good report!
Translator태양은 묘지위에 붉게 떠오르고 / 한낮에 찌는 더위는 나의 시련 일찌라!
rplant
Profile Joined May 2003
United States1178 Posts
April 11 2004 09:45 GMT
#9
So much text O.o
Believing in God is like believing in a teapot orbiting Mars (Edit: wow I was a douche in 2003)
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27149 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-04-11 09:57:59
April 11 2004 09:56 GMT
#10
On April 11 2004 18:15 ObsoleteLogic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2004 17:37 Manifesto7 wrote:
segway


its segue.

lol i thought i spelled it wrong, but my stupid spell checker wouldnt give me an option. At least there are a few better spell checkers out there :p

Yeah mensrea, i stole your game notes... but it is such a good idea
ModeratorGodfather
Levu
Profile Joined January 2004
Germany675 Posts
April 11 2004 10:02 GMT
#11
nice reports

good job!
Time is a drug. Too much of it kills you. - Terry Pratchett
sliggdogg
Profile Joined April 2004
Australia178 Posts
April 11 2004 10:11 GMT
#12
wd mani
Yippee.
IcedEarth
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States3661 Posts
April 11 2004 10:15 GMT
#13
Awesome, Mani. Yeah, I liked Game Notes too.
Guardian guardian guardian of the blind
Kacas
Profile Joined July 2003
Brazil3143 Posts
April 11 2004 10:20 GMT
#14
will they change the four maps?
I Love Hyori Lee =* icq: 41760400 / msn: kayen_chn at hotm
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36375 Posts
April 11 2004 10:27 GMT
#15
On April 11 2004 18:45 rplant wrote:
So much text O.o


really? i found that it was a good length... not too much.
@Hot_Bid on Twitter - ESPORTS life since 2010 - http://i.imgur.com/U2psw.png
StoneR
Profile Joined April 2003
Spain1252 Posts
April 11 2004 10:27 GMT
#16
i only read the nada vs jju one, it was brilliant. thx ^.~
Chibi[OWNS]
Profile Joined May 2003
United Kingdom10597 Posts
April 11 2004 10:29 GMT
#17
--- Nuked ---
MannerKiss
Profile Joined June 2003
United States2398 Posts
April 11 2004 10:31 GMT
#18
Great job
I want an igloo.
XaI)CyRiC
Profile Joined October 2002
United States4471 Posts
April 11 2004 10:54 GMT
#19
Good report, very good. I personally don't mind length, the more detail in a game report the better I say. And adopting the game notes from Mensrea's reports was a good idea, imitation IS the finest form of flattery, no?
Moderator
STIMEY d okgm fish
Profile Joined August 2003
Canada6140 Posts
April 11 2004 10:56 GMT
#20
tried to read it.. couldnt
EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22254 Posts
April 11 2004 11:38 GMT
#21
Wow Manifesto, that's one of the best reports I've read on here (and you have Mens and Wax to live up to!), nicely done!

Two factors would be at play here, how much he prepared for his opponent on a new map, and whether his hair would obscure his vision. Hes looking a little shaggy.


Priceless!
Moderatorhttp://carbonleaf.yuku.com/topic/408/t/So-I-proposed-at-a-Carbon-Leaf-concert.html ***** RIP Geoff
FancyZerg
Profile Joined April 2004
Afghanistan82 Posts
April 11 2004 11:40 GMT
#22
xellos is a far better playing methinks
Long live EnoughZerg
RuGbUg
Profile Joined June 2003
United States2347 Posts
April 11 2004 11:59 GMT
#23
Manifesto, that was a great report! i had to look up a few times to make sure who the author was!
anguish: its like that time i asked my bestfriend who happened to be black if his dick was bigger than mine anguish: he got angry anguish: and told me i was racist and gay
ZyPhReX
Profile Joined January 2003
1192 Posts
April 11 2004 13:09 GMT
#24
Awesome <3~
Ghost Me
tonycia1
Profile Joined March 2004
United States162 Posts
April 11 2004 13:26 GMT
#25
Great report!
STIMEY d okgm fish
Profile Joined August 2003
Canada6140 Posts
April 11 2004 13:50 GMT
#26
i think i must be having a stroke man i dont kno about that report
SpuniasauR
Profile Joined September 2003
Australia1500 Posts
April 11 2004 15:27 GMT
#27
dude. excellent, very reminiscent of mynock's report i think but with some more new school flavour. loved it!!

thats what tl.net has that other forums ive perused dont have. u guys and ur uber reports. thx.
A firebat to your Zergling.
likeboxer
Profile Joined December 2003
Korea (South)465 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-04-11 20:50:38
April 11 2004 15:42 GMT
#28
Good report! But I think you should devote to good games.
Those are just exhibition matches and not worth reporting.
xellos didn't even check the map.;p
dork
Profile Joined September 2003
Canada2207 Posts
April 11 2004 16:58 GMT
#29
pretty sweet report good job
staring at the world through the rear view
perfect_toss
Profile Joined April 2004
4 Posts
April 11 2004 17:50 GMT
#30
--- Nuked ---
aka bi11y ;)
Muhweli
Profile Joined September 2002
Finland5328 Posts
April 11 2004 17:52 GMT
#31
Hail the almighty JJu. Nice reports =]
River me timbers.
hasuwar
Profile Joined April 2003
7365 Posts
April 11 2004 18:02 GMT
#32
MANI FIGHTING!~!~!~
Diablo3 ID: Exalted#1710 -------R.I.P. http://hasuwar.isgsa.org. Much love to Toptalent
Liquid`Spy
Profile Joined October 2002
Netherlands1301 Posts
April 11 2004 19:08 GMT
#33
Nice game reports mani, as good as your RWA's
Im a spy in the house of love
ToKoreaWithLove
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Norway10161 Posts
April 11 2004 19:51 GMT
#34
Yep, excellent work manifesto. Poor new reporters have to live up to this -_-;;
ModeratorFather of bunnies
Taguchi
Profile Joined February 2003
Greece1575 Posts
April 11 2004 20:13 GMT
#35
Very nice, looking forward to more
Great minds might think alike, but fastest hands rule the day~
Homeless
Profile Joined February 2004
Germany69 Posts
April 11 2004 22:03 GMT
#36
Great report! Go on...
http://xnbk.de
MrEd
Profile Joined March 2003
Australia357 Posts
April 11 2004 22:34 GMT
#37
lucky those games weren't liquibeted...i wouldve been raped!

and good report!
My cats breath smells like cat food
hasuwar
Profile Joined April 2003
7365 Posts
April 11 2004 23:09 GMT
#38
I just read the title and this came to mind... Gillette? Asians can't even grow facial hair to shave..and anyone who has seen asian porn, knows they for down sure don't shave anything down stairs ;o
Diablo3 ID: Exalted#1710 -------R.I.P. http://hasuwar.isgsa.org. Much love to Toptalent
hak
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
Sweden768 Posts
April 11 2004 23:51 GMT
#39
yes
Zoom
Profile Joined January 2004
1111 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-04-11 23:52:29
April 11 2004 23:52 GMT
#40
lol, ive seen asians with facial..

Edit: Facial Hair*
There's no producing this perfect pose, hit the streets in the freshest clothes. Rip the stage, and bless the shows. Spit the flows and hit the do'
Zzang
Profile Joined May 2003
1303 Posts
April 12 2004 02:16 GMT
#41
Great job Manifesto. When I started reading I thought it was a usual quality wax/rea's report, didnt even realise it was someone's new.

And yes, didnt asian(jap) pioneer quality facials ?
http://www.battlefieldheroes.com/en/heroes/272999807
Macrophage
Profile Joined October 2002
Germany730 Posts
April 12 2004 02:33 GMT
#42
well done
Milzo
Profile Joined March 2004
France656 Posts
April 12 2004 02:49 GMT
#43
On April 12 2004 08:52 Zoom wrote:
lol, ive seen asians with facial..

Edit: Facial Hair*

ROFL

P.S.: Good job Manifesto. Thx for the reports
EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22254 Posts
April 12 2004 03:17 GMT
#44
On April 12 2004 08:09 hasuwar wrote:
and anyone who has seen asian porn, knows they for down sure don't shave anything down stairs ;o


As an avid fan of both Asian and non-Asian porn, I know what you mean. And actually, it's much worse then you may realize, South Korean women are now into having MORE hair transplanted there, supposedly as a sign of fertility.
Moderatorhttp://carbonleaf.yuku.com/topic/408/t/So-I-proposed-at-a-Carbon-Leaf-concert.html ***** RIP Geoff
pinbaLL
Profile Joined March 2004
Sweden1711 Posts
April 12 2004 06:57 GMT
#45
This old post is unavailable due to an encoding issue. Please contact an admin if you would like this post restored for historical reasons.
- Evergrey - This is a fucking British flag, and these colours dont fucking run! - Bruce Dickinson
Aukai
Profile Joined April 2003
United States1183 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-04-12 09:25:22
April 12 2004 09:22 GMT
#46
On April 12 2004 12:17 EvilTeletubby wrote: South Korean women are now into having MORE hair transplanted there, supposedly as a sign of fertility.
What
the
Fu.ck


I liked the reports alot, but I don't think the games you had to do gave you much justice
There was one really amazing gal. She was one of the biggest chick i ever seen.
Commander{+}
Profile Joined December 2002
United States2878 Posts
April 12 2004 09:30 GMT
#47
This old post is unavailable due to an encoding issue. Please contact an admin if you would like this post restored for historical reasons.
4 cheers for Ryan307
Color_cn
Profile Joined October 2003
China15 Posts
April 12 2004 10:08 GMT
#48
gj manifesto!
MPXMX
Profile Joined December 2002
Canada4309 Posts
April 12 2004 12:43 GMT
#49
that valley map sounds like something protoss players will bitch at terrans about . i mean terran doesn't need to get air tech to battle...
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
April 12 2004 18:35 GMT
#50
Great report

Btw, Kingdom beat nal_ra so I'd think it's nal_ra looking for revenge on kingdom and not the other way around
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
booooo
Profile Joined March 2004
Singapore372 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-04-12 20:53:51
April 12 2004 20:52 GMT
#51
both oov and nada lost their matches!! maybe they desperately practicing tvt :p
I love SCVs!
~KLOP~hmmm...
Profile Joined April 2003
Russian Federation3 Posts
April 13 2004 05:00 GMT
#52
great report :/
benzoic-acid
Profile Joined February 2004
Korea (South)427 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-04-13 15:59:33
April 13 2004 15:58 GMT
#53
either oov lost on purpose, wasnt trying, or just played like a complete newb. havent seen a pro play that badly, ever. Maybe he lost to give other players false confidence? oh well....

btw, there is an error in the report. oov is 0-2 tvp, not 2-0
C6H7O2
benzoic-acid
Profile Joined February 2004
Korea (South)427 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-04-13 16:42:07
April 13 2004 16:11 GMT
#54
ok, i honestly think nada didnt care at all either....he goes 2 port, then 3 fac....then put add-ons on BOTH starports, all off 1 gas??? he doesnt even make a dropship or research cloaking! then he moves out with vulture-tank army WITHOUT siege. nada doesnt play that badly or carelessly. maybe players dont want to give away potential strats
C6H7O2
wAt-74
Profile Joined January 2004
United States137 Posts
April 14 2004 13:57 GMT
#55
great report manifesto, themarine vs xellos VOD is on yaoyuan, and they even ripped your summary of tat match and put it up on their site. You must be really proud now
Normal
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
BSL
19:00
Team Wars - Round 1
Dewalt vs Hawk
ZZZero.O97
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
CosmosSc2 89
StarCraft: Brood War
BeSt 1148
firebathero 217
ggaemo 216
ZZZero.O 97
MaD[AoV]21
Dota 2
monkeys_forever592
capcasts424
NeuroSwarm129
League of Legends
Grubby4017
febbydoto3
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K834
flusha456
Super Smash Bros
AZ_Axe75
Other Games
tarik_tv10838
gofns8345
fl0m968
C9.Mang0142
ViBE128
ROOTCatZ45
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick748
StarCraft 2
angryscii 27
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• davetesta112
• RyuSc2 58
• sitaska52
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Other Games
• imaqtpie1147
Upcoming Events
Korean StarCraft League
3h 9m
CranKy Ducklings
10h 9m
BSL20 Non-Korean Champi…
12h 9m
Mihu vs QiaoGege
Zhanhun vs Dewalt
Fengzi vs TBD
WardiTV European League
16h 9m
ShoWTimE vs Harstem
Shameless vs MaxPax
HeRoMaRinE vs SKillous
ByuN vs TBD
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 10h
BSL20 Non-Korean Champi…
1d 14h
Bonyth vs TBD
WardiTV European League
1d 16h
Wardi Open
2 days
OSC
3 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
4 days
[ Show More ]
The PondCast
5 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

BSL 20 Non-Korean Championship
FEL Cracow 2025
Underdog Cup #2

Ongoing

Copa Latinoamericana 4
Jiahua Invitational
BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21 Qualifiers
CC Div. A S7
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025

Upcoming

ASL Season 20: Qualifier #1
ASL Season 20: Qualifier #2
ASL Season 20
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
BSL Season 21
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
SEL Season 2 Championship
WardiTV Summer 2025
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
HCC Europe
CAC 2025
Roobet Cup 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.