Tournies come and tournies go, and in the Beta we've had plenty of them. This weekend though we're going to celebrate another long standing Starcraft community tradition - the clan war. No brackets or prize money or fan fare, just two teams pitting themselves against each other in a take-no-prisoners style brawl that can end in only victory or defeat.
In one corner, we have Team Liquid. As old as the hills, this clan was founded by Liquid`Nazgul and Liquid`Meat, and is by all accounts one of the most successful Starcraft: Broodwar teams to date. With a number of high profile members on its roster over the years, Team Liquid recently recruited top Europeans Liquid`Jinro and Liquid`TheLittleOne and are now ready to take the SC2 world by storm.
In the other, we have Team EG, an American outfit that includes the likes of Incontrol, Louder, Machine, Inka and LzGamer. One of the most active teams during the SC2 Beta, these guys have laddered for ages and are now ready to throw down on a bigger stage, and what a stage it's going to be.
The battle lines are drawn.
Of course, this match is more than just a clanwar. Seeing how one team is largely European and the other mostly American, it would be fair to call this battle Transatlantic. As discussed at numerous stages of this Beta, the play styles on the NA and EU servers seem to differ at least by a little, and it'll thus be interesting to see how these players fare against each other.
First off, let's head to Liquid land for a chat with TL's very own.
Liquidization
By riptide
TeamLiquid.net: Hello Liquid, and thanks for joining me today! None of you are strangers to our community, but Jinro and TLO, why don't you start by telling us how you got involved with Liquid?
Jinro: Nazgul asked me to join ages ago, but I hate leaving clans (I was in Dream.t for SC1) so I said "I'll join when SC2 comes out"... and now SC2 is out!
TheLittleOne: Nazgul invited me after my good results at the TLI. I was pretty suprised as I never expect to become part of such a renowned team. I left my old clan IPS which is awesome as well, but I couldn't possibly decline his offer.
TeamLiquid.net: Given that both you guys could have pretty much had your pick of the clans out there, why Liquid, and most importantly, why now?
TheLittleOne: I'll give you the same answer I gave some guys that wanted me in their teams but I rejected because its Liquid, that's why.
Jinro: Well, for one given how long I've been part of TL (the website), it felt like the natural choice.
TeamLiquid.net: What I'm asking is - why that! Why Liquid? You said renowned, but there are a ton of other well known teams out there, right?
Jinro: Yeah, but there are very few this old - can't think of many except like ToT and maybe WeRRa (wc3).
TheLittleOne: Many teams perished but Liquid will always be.
Nazgul: I brainwashed you well.
Jinro: :D
TheLittleOne: Yes my lord.
Jinro: Ah, I see what you are doing now, recreating the 9 ring wraiths.
TeamLiquid.net: Liquid`Nazgul, It's pretty clear that you've always wanted to reboot Liquid with SC2. So far, you've acquired two of the biggest new names on the block. What next?
Nazgul: We are definitely not going to stop here, but recruiting players is more tricky than it seems. We don't just want anyone, we want people who we all get along with and are able to perform in tournaments at the same time. We are keeping our eyes open.
TeamLiquid.net: Liquid`Nazgul, So Liquid is definitely hiring?
Nazgul: More like inviting. No job interviews at Liquid sorry.
TeamLiquid.net: To Jinro and TLO - Both you guys are pretty young at the moment. How do you see yourself balancing Liquid/SC2 and IRL commitments over the months and years to come, especially as the game goes gold and more leagues and events open up?
Jinro: I'm pretty much commitment-free at the moment, I feel like it's too early to talk about how I plan to balance anything yet, I don't even know if there'll be anything to balance (i.e we'll see what happens to SC2/me as we go).
TheLittleOne: The past months I had semester break so I was able to play a lot and still have enough time to go out with my friends. But monday university starts again and I feel like it is going to pretty stressful. I will try to make time for everything though.
TeamLiquid.net: Nazgul - In your eyes, what should an up and coming player be doing to get noticed by Liquid? Let's say someone who hasn't played SCBW but is definitely putting time into SC2.
Nazgul: Any skilled player should be playing as many tournaments as he finds the opportunity to. It's a chance to play yourself into the spotlight and as a result get into invitational tournaments, where you really play against the best and prove what you can. That doesn't have much to do with Liquid it'd be my advice to anyone who plays SC2 at a serious level.
TeamLiquid.net: Alright. Liquid has been around for a long, long time. TLO and Jinro, how old were you when Naz went to Korea?
Jinro: That was 2003, right? 14.
Nazgul: Very early in 2003
TheLittleOne: 12.
Jinro: I'm born in January so...
TeamLiquid.net: So, given Liquid's age, and given how much ESPORTS has changed in the past half decade or so, what will Liquid do different as it gets into SC2? TLO and Jinro - so far, and I know you've only been around for a week or two, but how has playing for Liquid compared with your other clan experiences?
Nazgul: We'll try to get more involved with the other teams, playing clanwars and whatnot. Hopefully in the future we can find some arrangements that allow us to send our top players to live tournaments.
Jinro: Well, I haven't had any team matches for liquid yet, I used to be completely terrible in any team event (got better eventually), but I think I've - hopefully - gotten past that.
TheLittleOne: I like that we play alot together. Practicing with Nazgul and Jinro improved my play a lot already. We dont just play but also analyse the games together I really like that.
TeamLiquid.net: So do you guys have a daily practice schedule, or is it a more 'oh we'll play when we can' kinda setup?
TheLittleOne: I dont think a daily practice schedule would fit to the spirit of Liquid, right Nazgul?
Nazgul: Probably not.
Jinro: Yeah, it's more of a "want to play?" - "sure" affair.
Nazgul: Sometimes we ask the other if they have time tomorrow to help prepare for a certain tournament match but thats about it.
TeamLiquid.net: Righto. Speaking of practice, you guys must be readying yourselves for the 17th. What is your mindset going into this game? Jinro and TLO, it's your first clanwar for Liquid - what's going through your heads right now?
Jinro: I'm gonna crush those Yankee dogs obviously - for mother Europe.
TeamLiquid.net: Continental clash! Yeah, I was about to ask, do you guys feel all 10k Euros on your shoulders as you step into this?
Nazgul: I agree the most interesting part of this match is to see how the servers stack up against each other.
Jinro: More seriously, I haven't done any specific preparations - the 8th patch changed a ton about the game and I feel I've had to rework all matchups so just working on that. Well I feel confident naz and TLO will carry their games so even if I lose, the Euro pride will be intact.
TeamLiquid.net: Indeed, do you think you guys are going to face different builds? Jinro you've been talking on the TL Beta podcasts wtih Day[9] about playstyles across both servers. What do you think?
Nazgul: Different builds for sure. Builds we did two weeks ago.
Jinro: Honestly, I'm not sure what the matchups look like currently on US servers, I think most of what me and day talk about in that regard is slightly out of date, as trends are kinda hard to observe in real time without playing ladder on both servers.
TeamLiquid.net: Are there any specific styles you guys are anticipating?
Jinro: I'm not sure, it'd have been easier to predict if the patch hadn't just happened - as I said I feel like it's changed some things a lot (TvP especially).
Nazgul: I don't have a feel for styles yet. It's too early to really have a style I think.
TheLittleOne: Well I guess they will have a bad start because I am random!
Jinro: P can probably void ray rush blind with the new void ray anyway You aren't safe!!
TeamLiquid.net: TheLittleOne, let's talk a bit about being random. You mentioned in an earlier interview with us that you'd change to a static race if it ever became difficult to compete at the higher levels. Do you foresee that happening anytime soon?
TheLittleOne: I feel more confident in all matchups now. Two weeks ago I felt like I still had very weak Matchups, but I worked on them. I am not scared of bad luck getting my worst mu anymore.
TeamLiquid.net: TheLittleOne, I remember you saying you hoped you never randomed ZvZ. With the recent patch, has that changed much?
TheLittleOne: ZvZ is still very weird. But at least its not always roach vs roach anymore. Zergling Baneling vs Zergling Baneling at least ends fast ^^.
TeamLiquid.net: Jinro, You mentioned that you have no set plans at the moment. Seeing that SC2 is still in beta, what sort of energy do you think you'll be able to pour into the game as it goes to release? Where would you like to see yourself this time next year?
Jinro: I don't really know, I'd like to be able to really compete at the highest level at least for a while... I tried pretty hard with SC1, but I was young and the game was already pretty old. And when I finally started getting somewhere, poker came along and I basically stopped playing for a couple of years [end of 2006]. It feels really hard to predict what I want to do exactly because the game is really only 2 months old. And of course I need to qualify for a WCG - maybe Sweden will finally have one again (last one for SC in Sweden was in 2004)
TeamLiquid.net: TheLittleOne, A similar question - the next year is going to be pretty exciting, SC2 wise. What goals do you have for it?
TheLittleOne: My goal is to be one of the three best German players. Be in the semis or finals of most national tourneys. And maybe score at a few international tournaments. I definitly want to qualify for the WCG Grandfinals one day. (I hope that doesnt sound too arrogant xD)
TeamLiquid.net: Liquid`Nazgul, When you left to Korea you had just finished HS. Now, both these guys are around the same age. If you could tell them one thing you learnt from over a decade of experience, what would it be?
Nazgul: My advice would be try to get something out of the things you commit to. Be it enjoyment, money or experience make sure you have something to show for your time. There's definitely something to be learned from playing games it's not all a waste of time it's just what you do with it.
TeamLiquid.net: Liquid`Nazgul, As a team, where would you like Liquid to be in 2 - 3 years? Would a live-in training environment be a possibility? As more LANs open up, do you see Liquid going 'on tour'? SC2 may well open doors that SCBW never managed to for Liquid. How do you hope to take advantage of these?
Nazgul: Live-in training environment sounds like a lot of fun for those who want it, though I have too many commitments to partake in something like that myself. We'd never force or demand it upon anyone but if there are enough people who would like it it could be something to look into in the future. Some people are good playing from their bedrooms others would benefit more from such an environment. It's hard to predict how things will develop we'll just take it one step at a time while having fun playing the game with a nice group of people.
TeamLiquid.net: So, good luck for next Saturday! We hope you bring us some good games. Any words for your opponents?
TheLittleOne: Incontrol, I'll show you who really is in control.
Nazgul: You guys bring the vaseline?
Jinro: If he dies, he dies. Wait, does Drago win in that Rocky movie?
Next, let's follow Chobopeon as he sits down for a chat with the geniuses from EG and see what the Yankees have to say about the Beta, the team and their chances this Saturday.
Timeout with EG
By Chobopeon
TeamLiquid.net: When the opportunity came, I couldn't resist asking a few of the Evil Geniuses to take a step back and briefly comment on the state of the game itself.
Incontrol: At the beginning of March, Incontrol said that while he loved the new game, it was no StarCraft 1. Today, he lavishes more praise on the sequel: "The game still has some ways to go but it is damn near perfect in my opinion. Broodlords need some tweaking along with other things but frankly they are minor save for the BL nerf that needs to happen. There simply is no point in making ultras when BL's are so good. I love this game though and am thoroughly enjoying practicing, competing and generally hanging around in this era."
Machine: "There are still a lot of balance issues to work out and I have never been a fan of MBS or Auto-mining but I think the game has potential. Already, a lot of money has been thrown in for tournaments and that's exactly what I have been looking forward to." Machine almost always plays specific training partners and never plays the ladder because "I get very bored of starcraft 2 very quickly, so I dont like to waste my time hoping I run up against a strong player on ladder when I have plenty of great opponents to practice with on my team."
Louder: At the end of Feburary, Louder said that the more he played, the more the beta was falling short. Recently, he's only somewhat changed his mind: "Balance-wise it's better but I still feel it's fundamentally lacking in some important areas in terms of the game's mechanics. I feel there's a great deal of disparity between the macro mechanics and the advantages they have, particularly in longer games. and I think the lack of a good high ground mechanic hurts the game as well."
TeamLiquid.net: With those perspectives out in the open, let's get a close-up to the games at hand. How do the Evil Geniuses think they stack up against their Team Liquid opponents and, for the sake of a good argument, against their own teammates?
Incontrol: "Well as of now I am just a win or two away from overtaking IdrA in my division for group leader. I play each day and do fairly well ... a nice complement to my play is the coaching I do. Allows me to play the other two races and gain understanding of the game and those races specifically. In general, I revolve my day around this game with a smattering of things like school, work and a girlfriend.
Team Evil Geniuses is made up of some of the finest in the NA. Not just currently but talent wise, we have what it takes to go the long haul and dominate in SC2. Currently I am towards the top [of the team]. But that can change, all these guys are working hard to be the best so it is pretty dang even at the end of the day!"
Machine: "It is very hard to say [how well I stack up against my team], we have a strong group of teammates, always pushing each other and helping lift our skill level as a whole nearly every single day. At this time I believe that I can hold my own against all of my teammates, but the same can be said for each member of the team.
I have not been able to play against the TL members but I have heard rumors, and I think that it should be a very fun, close match."
Lz: "I would say I'm in pretty good shape. I'm obviously better then all of those EG guys except Nyoken haha! As for the TL players hard to say.. considering I have not played them much."
Louder: "I tend to go 50% or so vs EG. Some days are better. I play a pretty good bit - it's a hobby like any other, and I make time for it. Work and getting gosucoaching.com going, and the family do cut into my sc2 time quite a bit though I'd probably play 10 hours per day if I had nothing else to do."
TeamLiquid.net: Getting to the meat of it, I asked for the Evil Geniuses to talk about their best match-ups and throw a prediction out.
Machine (playing Nazgul): "I have not been able to play against the TL members but I have heard rumors, and I think that it should be a very fun, close match. I think it will be a close series, 3-2 or 2-3 hopefully EG can practice very hard for these matches and pull out a good victory, but it will be a struggle either way thats for sure."
Louder (playing Drone): "I guess my best match-up is TvZ. I've known Eri since I started playing StarCraft but I haven't played him or watched his replays on SC2 yet. He basically taught me, assem, and artosis how to play back in 99 :D
[As for a prediction,] I have no idea. I don't know enough about the EU guys to comment really."
Lz (playing Nony): "My best matchup is TvZ. I think I played Nony once - back when warpgate's were still broken. As for who won, I'm going on a limb here and say he did. I have not seen much play from Nony so I'm not too sure of what style to expect."
Incontrol (playing TLO): "I think he is a gifted and talented player with lots of potential. I do feel confident however as I am strong in all 3 match-ups and I think playing random actually disadvantages you. I feel if I get PvP I am a sure victor and the other mu's can go either way. That being said I anticipate a win! PvP is not necessarily my best... I just feel confident in it vs him. My worst is probably PvT. Sometimes I get too fancy for my own good or I make stupid decisions.. but usually I do ok!
[The TL vs. EG outcome] depends. If we randomly hit these guys in different tourneys we'd kill em. But in clan wars EG apparently sucks from time to time... it's some kind of curse! I expect us to do very well. But it will be really tough, we haven't faced a team this good and we need toplay our absolute best to make these remarks not look like over optimism!"
TeamLiquid.net: Too polite, Incontrol. Come on, get some trash talk in there. Some standard anti-european talk will do! Incontrol: He is german. That means he probably isn't funny and cannot detect sarcasm [Ed note: Romanians and Germans are now the same?]. That being said I expect him to die when I land on the beach. TeamLiquid.net: Excellent. You've done this American writer proud.
Well, there you have it! Come this Saturday, these two top teams are going to be going head to head, and you'd be nothing short of foolish to miss this joust. As usual, the games will be streamed live and casted by none other than TeamLiquid.net's own Sean "Day[9]" Plott. So, be sure to join us for stellar games, spectacular trash talk and bandwagoning galore - this Saturday, only on Team Liquid. Pick a side, guys. Pick a side.
This post was made by the Team Liquid Starcraft 2 Coverage Team. For more of TL's coverage, please visit the Team Liquid Starcraft 2 Beta Page.
tlo > inc nazgul > machine jinro >< inka (dont know how solid inka is, but jinro should be able to take this game) Drone < Louder (dont know exactly how much Drone has played yet, but Louder is pretty solid) Nony > Lz
On April 13 2010 20:54 f10esqftw wrote: Out of curiosity, how is the gateway limitation being handled? Will US be loaned a Euro account for their game or vice versa?
On April 13 2010 20:54 f10esqftw wrote: Out of curiosity, how is the gateway limitation being handled? Will US be loaned a Euro account for their game or vice versa?
This is exactly what I was wondering :>
I bet that TL has about 1000 keys for this kinda stuff. If not, you can borrow mine, and I'm sure other TL'ers are willing to do the same. This event sounds great! Not gonna miss it!
On April 13 2010 20:40 chrisolo wrote: honestly, liquid will take this pretty ez
predictions:
tlo > inc nazgul > machine jinro >< inka (dont know how solid inka is, but jinro should be able to take this game) Drone < Louder (dont know exactly how much Drone has played yet, but Louder is pretty solid) Nony > Lz
Overall 4-1 or 3-2 (more likely 4-1 imho)
gogo Liquid!
Agreed pretty much. I don't know at all about drone vs louder though, and lz could give a good fight.
I expect this to go 5:0 or 4:1 for Europe Liquid. I wont be at home at that time so I hope there will be VODs. Also, will there be a liquibet for this?
awesome shit. and as far as picking a side goes... the europe vs america thought is pretty cool, especially if you consider that europe consists of sooo many different countrys. thats why it is always cool to hear someone say "for europe!"
New agenda for saturday 1) buy some booze 2) open stream 3) ??? 4) profit
I hope to live long enough to see the same event live, with a kickass screen, 5k people watching live AND cheerleaders (a TL chearleaders squad would definitely rock).
We get USA vs Canada and US vs Europe. I don't know what's going on in this picture, but apparently this eagle is carrying freedom, so get ready Europe we're going to destroy you.
Now, I want you to remember that no bastard ever won a clan war by dying for his team. He won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his team.
Men, all this stuff you've heard about America not wanting to fight the Europeans, wanting to stay out of the clan war, is a lot of horse dung. Americans, traditionally, love to fight. All real Americans love the sting of battle.
When you were kids, you all admired the champion Donkey Kong player, the fastest Mario speed-runner, the big league Street Fighter players, the toughest SNES nerds. Americans love a winner and will not tolerate a loser. Americans play to win all the time. Now, I wouldn't give a hoot in hell for a man who lost and laughed. That's why Americans have never lost and will never lose a clan war. Because the very thought of losing is hateful to Americans.
Now, a clan is a team. It lives, eats, sleeps, fights as a team. This individuality stuff is a bunch of crap. The bilious bastards who wrote that stuff about individuality for GosuGamers don't know anything more about real battle than they do about fornicating.
Now, we have the finest food and equipment, the best spirit, and the best men in the world. You know, by God, I actually pity those poor bastards we're going up against. By God, I do. We're not just going to shoot the bastards. We're going to cut out their living guts and use them to grease the treads of our tanks. We're going to murder those lousy Hun bastards by the bushel.
Now, some of you boys, I know, are wondering whether or not you'll chicken-out under fire. Don't worry about it. I can assure you that you will all do your duty. The Europeans are the enemy. Wade into them. Spill their blood. Shoot them in the belly. When you put your hand into a bunch of goo that a moment before was your best friend's face, you'll know what to do.
Now there's another thing I want you to remember. I don't want to get any messages saying that we are tied. We're not tying anything. Let the Hun do that. We are advancing constantly and we're not interested in holding onto anything -- except the enemy. We're going to hold onto him by the nose, and we're gonna kick him in the ass. We're gonna kick the hell out of him all the time, and we're gonna go through him like crap through a goose!
Now, there's one thing that you men will be able to say when you get back home, and you may thank God for it. Thirty years from now when you're sitting around your fireside with your grandson on your knee, and he asks you, "What did you do in the great beta clan War?" -- you won't have to say, "Well, I shoveled shit on Battle.net."
Down with those tight-jean wearing, hair-product using, siesta having commies across the pond. U S A U S A. Open a McDonalds in every European school! A Wal-Mart in the kitchen of every European home! An extra 20 pounds on the waist of every European!
Alright now you sons-of-bitches, you know how I feel.
On April 13 2010 23:44 Warrior Madness wrote: Oh damn. This is gonna be soooo good. Incontrol vs TLO and the Nony vs Lz grudge match. DOOOO ITTTTT.
lz and i dont have a grudge haha. where did you get that idea?
lol apparently i now have grudge match(?)'s with nony and idra.. even though i dont have a grudge ^___^ Goodluck Tyler here's to having some Good games!!
On April 13 2010 23:44 Warrior Madness wrote: Oh damn. This is gonna be soooo good. Incontrol vs TLO and the Nony vs Lz grudge match. DOOOO ITTTTT.
lz and i dont have a grudge haha. where did you get that idea?
lol apparently i now have grudge match(?)'s with nony and idra.. even though i dont have a grudge ^___^ Goodluck Tyler here's to having some Good games!!
The way you two kissed goodbye in Dallas, I'd think you have exactly the opposite of a grudge.
On April 14 2010 03:48 oo_xerox wrote: DID JINRO SAID HE WAS IN Dream.t) in sc1? Like THE KOREAN CLAN? Holy shit............. tl.net imba
is jinro frozen arbiter?
yeah he was in dream.t) and yeah he's frozenarbiter. wanna hear more amazingness about team liquid? sangho offered me to join Shield (bisu[shield], sea[shield], etc) and i turned him down in favor of keeping the liquid tag. easiest choice of my life
On April 13 2010 23:44 Warrior Madness wrote: Oh damn. This is gonna be soooo good. Incontrol vs TLO and the Nony vs Lz grudge match. DOOOO ITTTTT.
lz and i dont have a grudge haha. where did you get that idea?
lol apparently i now have grudge match(?)'s with nony and idra.. even though i dont have a grudge ^___^ Goodluck Tyler here's to having some Good games!!
On April 14 2010 03:48 oo_xerox wrote: DID JINRO SAID HE WAS IN Dream.t) in sc1? Like THE KOREAN CLAN? Holy shit............. tl.net imba
is jinro frozen arbiter?
yeah he was in dream.t) and yeah he's frozenarbiter. wanna hear more amazingness about team liquid? sangho offered me to join Shield (bisu[shield], sea[shield], etc) and i turned him down in favor of keeping the liquid tag. easiest choice of my life
On April 14 2010 03:48 oo_xerox wrote: DID JINRO SAID HE WAS IN Dream.t) in sc1? Like THE KOREAN CLAN? Holy shit............. tl.net imba
is jinro frozen arbiter?
yeah he was in dream.t) and yeah he's frozenarbiter. wanna hear more amazingness about team liquid? sangho offered me to join Shield (bisu[shield], sea[shield], etc) and i turned him down in favor of keeping the liquid tag. easiest choice of my life
On April 14 2010 03:48 oo_xerox wrote: DID JINRO SAID HE WAS IN Dream.t) in sc1? Like THE KOREAN CLAN? Holy shit............. tl.net imba
Yeah, joined in the summer of 2005, Jangbi joined a few months after me together with Yubi. One of the first people I played was Dream.t)Hyun (I won - then he asked for re 5 times in a row, winning each game ;p).
Played a few times in team matches, but I was terrible whenever I had to play for a team back then, I put so much pressure on myself that I ended up choking hard everytime
On April 14 2010 03:48 oo_xerox wrote: DID JINRO SAID HE WAS IN Dream.t) in sc1? Like THE KOREAN CLAN? Holy shit............. tl.net imba
is jinro frozen arbiter?
yeah he was in dream.t) and yeah he's frozenarbiter. wanna hear more amazingness about team liquid? sangho offered me to join Shield (bisu[shield], sea[shield], etc) and i turned him down in favor of keeping the liquid tag. easiest choice of my life
On April 14 2010 03:48 oo_xerox wrote: DID JINRO SAID HE WAS IN Dream.t) in sc1? Like THE KOREAN CLAN? Holy shit............. tl.net imba
Yeah, joined in the summer of 2005, Jangbi joined a few months after me together with Yubi. One of the first people I played was Dream.t)Hyun (I won - then he asked for re 5 times in a row, winning each game ;p).
Played a few times in team matches, but I was terrible whenever I had to play for a team back then, I put so much pressure on myself that I ended up choking hard everytime
wow this is going to be awesome! Both of the lineups are sick! Hoping to see some prepared and new builds for this, since most of the players know the matchup and the map they are playing on maybe they can devise some awesome strategies!
nice gonna watch this for sure! i expect naz/jinro/tlo to rape hard, drone is a tad worse than them imo, but still a very good sc2 player. No clue about nony but considering hes a beast in sc1 I guess he should be ok. Unfortunately he has to play on US server so he has no decent opponents. EG is gonna get crushed either way. Go liquid!
By the way, can someone explain to me, who have not followed the sc1 scen that long, whats up with those dream.t and shield clans?
I read that jinro was in dream.t and that Nony was offerd to join shield. But is that sorta fun teams that people have or were they real pro teams back then?
On April 14 2010 08:37 Whyzguy wrote: This is the best line out of both interviews.
[when Nazgul was asked if he was gonna see different builds from the americans] Nazgul: Different builds for sure. Builds we did two weeks ago.
This will make an awesome break from my studies!
haha yeah :D
On April 14 2010 14:22 Mystlord wrote: GO LIQUID`!!!!
But anyway.... How will this be played seeing as how the clan players are on different servers?
I'd assume it's gonna be played on US, Jinro has an account there, nony obviously does, I'm sure the others can get their hands on one as well if they dont have one already.
On April 14 2010 17:54 purpose wrote: By the way, can someone explain to me, who have not followed the sc1 scen that long, whats up with those dream.t and shield clans?
I read that jinro was in dream.t and that Nony was offerd to join shield. But is that sorta fun teams that people have or were they real pro teams back then?
they are korean clans. Clans != Pro team. Clans just meet online to practice/have clanwars.
On April 14 2010 17:54 purpose wrote: By the way, can someone explain to me, who have not followed the sc1 scen that long, whats up with those dream.t and shield clans?
I read that jinro was in dream.t and that Nony was offerd to join shield. But is that sorta fun teams that people have or were they real pro teams back then?
Just good korean clans on the US West server ~_~ They are completely separate from the professional teams (i.e Jangbi is in Dream.t as his clan, but on Samsung Khan as his team).
Since the beta, just watching alot on youtube, Jinro and TLO have been the two players ive never heard of that have impressed me the most. Watching them makes me want to get better soooooo bad!
On April 14 2010 17:50 purpose wrote: Ohh this is gonna be so fun to watch. A few really fun games to look forward to, and most of all see how the EU players stand compared to the US.
But to bad its not bo5 since one game can be just a chees or random bo luck.
And Of course I hope that Team Liquid smash those US players up :-)
Just good korean clans on the US West server ~_~ They are completely separate from the professional teams (i.e Jangbi is in Dream.t as his clan, but on Samsung Khan as his team).
Clan Wars and tournaments are an awesome way to provide excitement and entertainment of a more complicated sort. Who will win this one? Hopefully the viewers by getting to see intersting and close matches and the players by getting surprised once or twice by stuff they havent seen before in their usual matches.
OMG I'm SOoo excited for this!!! Everything about it! I totally told my gf she's gotta wait for me to go out until this is over and she looked at me like I was so crazy once she realized I was serious hahaahha! GO EG!!!
This is simply unacceptable. I'm so angry right now I was looking forward to this the past few days. I don't understand how Livestream has done nothing to fix these issues for their MOST POPULAR stream. It seems they would be on top of this especially considering that Day9 now wants to switch to a different website. Get on top of your shit livestream.
Guys about the key contest is there a time cap to tweet back to TL.NET if you win? i had short time and think won't be able to watch all the games}(damn work) so if i get the key(with my luck i won't but just in case) and im not hir can i still have it by replaying to Tl.net later ????
If the Bandwidth is such a problem (Livestream breaking down for Day[9] and even glhf.tv getting laggy) is it possible to stream the same stuff on two separate "distributors" to spread out the load?
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