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Ver
Profile Joined October 2008
United States2186 Posts
July 29 2009 03:48 GMT
#121
All people who clue analyze off the gate are always innocent.

Lucas, Opz, and Falcynn are innocent. Yay!
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Foolishness *
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3044 Posts
July 29 2009 04:01 GMT
#122
On July 29 2009 12:48 Ver wrote:
All people who clue analyze off the gate are always innocent.

Lucas, Opz, and Falcynn are innocent. Yay!


Anyone who calls other people innocent right off the bat is clearly mafia
geript: "Foolishness's cases are persuasive and reasonable but leave you feeling dirty afterwards. Kinda like a whore." ---- Manager of the TL Mafia forum, come play!
Falcynn
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3597 Posts
July 29 2009 04:03 GMT
#123
On July 29 2009 13:01 Foolishness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2009 12:48 Ver wrote:
All people who clue analyze off the gate are always innocent.

Lucas, Opz, and Falcynn are innocent. Yay!


Anyone who calls other people innocent right off the bat is clearly mafia
Anyone who calls someone mafia for calling people innocent off the bat is clearly Ukrainian.
Foolishness *
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3044 Posts
July 29 2009 04:06 GMT
#124
On July 29 2009 13:03 Falcynn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2009 13:01 Foolishness wrote:
On July 29 2009 12:48 Ver wrote:
All people who clue analyze off the gate are always innocent.

Lucas, Opz, and Falcynn are innocent. Yay!


Anyone who calls other people innocent right off the bat is clearly mafia
Anyone who calls someone mafia for calling people innocent off the bat is clearly Ukrainian.


Anyone who makes their own topic about their opinions is clearly an attention whore.
geript: "Foolishness's cases are persuasive and reasonable but leave you feeling dirty afterwards. Kinda like a whore." ---- Manager of the TL Mafia forum, come play!
Ver
Profile Joined October 2008
United States2186 Posts
July 29 2009 04:06 GMT
#125
On July 29 2009 13:01 Foolishness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2009 12:48 Ver wrote:
All people who clue analyze off the gate are always innocent.

Lucas, Opz, and Falcynn are innocent. Yay!


Anyone who calls other people innocent right off the bat is clearly mafia


Stuff it mafia.

I'm not kidding.
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Falcynn
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3597 Posts
July 29 2009 04:08 GMT
#126
On July 29 2009 13:06 Foolishness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2009 13:03 Falcynn wrote:
On July 29 2009 13:01 Foolishness wrote:
On July 29 2009 12:48 Ver wrote:
All people who clue analyze off the gate are always innocent.

Lucas, Opz, and Falcynn are innocent. Yay!


Anyone who calls other people innocent right off the bat is clearly mafia
Anyone who calls someone mafia for calling people innocent off the bat is clearly Ukrainian.


Anyone who makes their own topic about their opinions is clearly an attention whore.
Anyone who criticizes someone for trying to neatly organize information is clearly trying to bury the truth! Which makes them mafia.
Ver
Profile Joined October 2008
United States2186 Posts
July 29 2009 04:10 GMT
#127
On July 29 2009 13:08 Falcynn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2009 13:06 Foolishness wrote:
On July 29 2009 13:03 Falcynn wrote:
On July 29 2009 13:01 Foolishness wrote:
On July 29 2009 12:48 Ver wrote:
All people who clue analyze off the gate are always innocent.

Lucas, Opz, and Falcynn are innocent. Yay!


Anyone who calls other people innocent right off the bat is clearly mafia
Anyone who calls someone mafia for calling people innocent off the bat is clearly Ukrainian.


Anyone who makes their own topic about their opinions is clearly an attention whore.
Anyone who criticizes someone for trying to neatly organize information is clearly trying to bury the truth! Which makes them mafia.


*Hi Fives*
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LucasWoJ
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States936 Posts
July 29 2009 04:13 GMT
#128
I'm so glad you're playing this game, Ver. <3
"Of all the words of mice and men, the saddest are it could have been." - Kurt Vonnegut
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
July 29 2009 04:36 GMT
#129
any way we can get pm'd when the day starts xD probably woulda missed it TT.
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
MountainDew
Profile Joined July 2009
5 Posts
July 29 2009 05:21 GMT
#130
I would like to announce my campaign for office!

First off, my plan will be to lynch an inactive or someone who has posted but not contributed. With 54 people it is safe to assume the mafia is going to be hiding among the guarenteed list of inactives. This is especially true because the mafia do not know the other mafia, and thus they will not have any organized plans.

It is going to be important to weed out the mafia from the inactive list. As an elected official I will promise to do my best to keep the town organized. Since mafia do not know each other, the way for the town to win is to work as a team, since we have this advantage against the mafia, at least for now.

By keeping the town organized, we will be able to avoid a town defeat. The main goal I want to accomplish is to make the mafia afraid of being inactive. If the town is mindlessly killing each other, the mafia will have an easy win as they sit back and watch us die. It is my hope to prevent all this from happening.

Now I understand that nobody here has played mafia with me before, at least to the best of my knowledge. In order to familiarize myself with the town I have read nearly all the mafia games on this forum. By understanding how everyone here plays I will be able to better lead the town to victory.

Many of you may be tempted to not vote for me since there are "vets" playing in this game, and voting for a vet would seem like a safer play than voting for me. However I urge you all to think for yourself and not vote for someone because they merely claim they are experienced or "I'm good at mafia pick me!" in the words of L.

It is true that L is a very good player, so he must be considered as well, once he makes his actual petition. Looking over all the past mafia games, I could not help but be amazed at all the elected officials screwing the town over, when the official was indeed a townsperson. In lots of games, these "veteran players" could not keep the town organized and would ultimately end up getting lynched unneccesarily, doing nothing to help the town and staying silent, or shamefully getting themselves mod killed because they couldn't handle the game. I will do everything I can to keep the town organized and will not succumb to one of these fates.

Thus I urge you all to think for yourselves and not vote for someone based on their "vet" status or their experience. I plan to weed the mafia out of the inactives by keeping information open and the town organized. I consider myself to be more adept to behavioral analysis than clue analysis, especially based on my thoughts when reading the previous games. However all ideas need consideration; Falcynn's topic is a good start for a town victory.

I promise to be active throughout the game, as being inactive, especially as an official, will not benefit the town. I also urge everyone else to be active as well, as the more information the town has the better we can kill the mafia.

That all being said, vote for me. I will keep the town organized to weed out the mafia.
Scamp
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1086 Posts
July 29 2009 05:57 GMT
#131
On July 29 2009 11:57 Falcynn wrote:Also I'm pretty certain that the pennies in the eyes are a reference to the movie Boondock Saints (there are a few other things it could reference to, but as I can't recall it off the top of my head I'll leave it at that for now). So keep a look out for anyone with any allusions to vigilante justice, religious themes, or anything relating to the movie connected to them.


Pennies in the eyes (or more accurately on the eyelids) is an old superstition (tradition/myth, maybe? Whatever...) The purpose is to pay the fare/ferryman to cross the river Styx. Why the ferryman does that much work for two cents, I'll never know.

Or maybe I'll know when I die and someone is nice enough to leave two cents on my eyes.

But anyway, don't forget about the reference to COPPERHEAD!!!!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copperhead_(Daredevil_foe)



On July 29 2009 12:38 Falcynn wrote:
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All of this based off things I found in their profiles.

Incredibly Weak Leads
Elemenope
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Has a picture of a Crystal Maiden from DotA and some other hero that I'm not familiar with (I don't play dota) however, according to dotastrategy.com the crystal maiden was "Trained by a renegade wizard deep in the heart of Winterspring." Which vaguely relates to the vigilantism that I noted may be a clue in my earlier post.

Plexa
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His quote "Spirit will set you free" when googled returns a either Christian scriptures, lyrics to a gospel song, or...Plexa's posts. Either way, this relates a bit to the point I made about the pennies in the eyes in my previous post.

Shikyo
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His profile seems to focus a lot on metal (music), which can vaguely relate to the mass of scrap metal (tanks on bridge) left behind.

Chezinu
+ Show Spoiler +
His profile has a small blurb about a "Brown state". Mud=Brown?

Coltrane
+ Show Spoiler +
Quote in profile says "Why is the rum gone" which could reference the vodka/tavern.


Very doubtful lead
Scamp
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Picture of a cat lying in a gutter, which can collect mud. Maybe relates to the redtooth's corpse in the mud.


Which is a stronger lead, by the way? The incredibly weak leads, or my own personal very doubtful lead?
Cheese is good for you!
Incognito
Profile Joined November 2008
United States2071 Posts
July 29 2009 06:23 GMT
#132
Are all role counts hidden this game?
The bureaucracy is expanding to meet the needs of the expanding bureaucracy
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
July 29 2009 06:25 GMT
#133
Well obviously I'm running for Field Marshal.

However, a couple of things I'd like to say.

First of all, we aren't having any of that dumb shit clue analysis. Stuff it. You start posting a ton of clue analysis with no solid leads to the person aka name calling and you're rocketing up my suspect list. I will catch you. We don't have time for every Johnny Cumbucket to show up with their "analysis" which is not only usually wrong but doesn't even directly call the person out so they just ignore it. Don't do it.

Everyone is going to call for lynching inactives - duh. Ever since I did it in Mafia 2 it's been "the easy fallback plan". Needless to say I'd rather have people that are well known, good solid players. If you are unknown to the game you better come up with some off the wall shit none of us could top to convince people to vote for you.

Lastly, remember this game is more than abotu what you know - it's about what you can convince people of. With this in mind DO NOT tell people your roles!. The town keeps losing because idiots keep telling on themselves, and then the role gets leaked to the Mafia and everyone cries boo hoo he was blue sniped - no, he was an idiot. Don't do it.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ver
Profile Joined October 2008
United States2186 Posts
July 29 2009 06:42 GMT
#134
Actually people usually think someone told someone else their role when in reality they got sniped.

But I agree with the rest ^_^, especially concerning people making useless posts to fit in or cover up important posts.
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Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
July 29 2009 06:47 GMT
#135
For now I'll also vote for Mountain Dew as I like his post. It's clear and to the point.

There's also something I thought about. Look at that rule set. Mafia is supremely fucked. Remember the main advantage Mafia has over the town is that they know who each other are ahead of time and can kill at night much better than the town. Also they have to kill enough of us under a time limit - lol. This is such a fucked condition for them.

Look at it like this: Mafia can essentially choose to Role Check OR Kill. See the problem? They don't know each other. The optimal move would be for all of them to role check people hoping they get lucky to land some mafia. However this conflicts with their win condition - if they don't kill enough of us in time we automatically win. So they really do need to start killing asap. Problem is when they start killing not only do they leave clues to themselves but they might hit another mafia. So they do need to investigate.

^_^

The Army has a really good starting stronghold - Mafia have to pick one of those abilities individually each night and both abilities contradict the other early in the game. I'm betting on mafia investigating on Night 1 instead of all going around popping people in fear of hitting each other.

Now for our side we have it pretty simple. We have all the classic Mafia game roles: DT,Medic,Vet,Vigi + a suicide bomber. Unlike them our win condition is more about survival than outright killing all of them. This game we shouldn't be too worried about killing everything that moves - this means no dumb lynches just because a guy has 1 or 2 clues tied to him. Sure we can make mistakes but if we don't lynch it's really not a big deal as we win by surviving also.

Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
July 29 2009 06:48 GMT
#136
Also I don't see where Caller said the first post had clues so why are you guys doing clue analysis?

In fact even if it did - why are you guys doing clue analysis?

@Ver: if someone gets blue sniped it's because they are dumb, not because someone figured it out reading their posts(unless they intentionally did it).
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
So no fek
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3001 Posts
July 29 2009 06:56 GMT
#137
On July 29 2009 15:48 Ace wrote:
Also I don't see where Caller said the first post had clues so why are you guys doing clue analysis?


Mainly because the last few games always have the [No Clue Area] text, if there aren't any clues. So it's possible that there aren't any clues, but likely there is. Maybe it would be best to have Caller verify.
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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
July 29 2009 07:04 GMT
#138
On July 29 2009 10:14 Caller wrote:
Mod: please change post to "Day 1" and also please give people access to Mafia forum (that aren't crossed out)

Thanks.

One mod can see this forum - that's me
Only admins can give people access (there are only about 6-7 of them). I'm one of them
Hence only one person can do what you want so in future just pm me -.-;
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
July 29 2009 07:11 GMT
#139
On July 29 2009 15:56 So no fek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2009 15:48 Ace wrote:
Also I don't see where Caller said the first post had clues so why are you guys doing clue analysis?


Mainly because the last few games always have the [No Clue Area] text, if there aren't any clues. So it's possible that there aren't any clues, but likely there is. Maybe it would be best to have Caller verify.


yep we'll wait for him to verify. Either way I don't trust anyone's clue analysis until I see the Night 1 post.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ver
Profile Joined October 2008
United States2186 Posts
July 29 2009 07:11 GMT
#140
It doesn't matter what Caller says or whether his post has clues or not. Day 1 clues are stupid and useless.

Day 1 clues have never lead to finding the mafia. Actually, probably the best use of day 1 clues is to look at who you think is mafia from them, and instead believe them innocent as you're almost 100% sure to be wrong.

@Ver: if someone gets blue sniped it's because they are dumb, not because someone figured it out reading their posts(unless they intentionally did it).


Then the number of players then who are not considered dumb is...0? Because yes it happens from reading their posts (or lack of). Doesn't really matter though for this game, as the mafia will not have 1 person doing their targeting until it is too late to matter. But for the smurf game it is a serious concern, as always.
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