After reading this thread about 10 times i have to say that the theory of a mafia sacrifice in the first lynch (to save truthbringer) is looking quite solid. YDG has not being really helpful and all cases make him look as a bad townie at best. Now we can add a pretty good clue against him (imo). So id like to know what does the town think about lynching YDG in first place. + Show Spoiler +
The Laughter: Caller and So no fek were returning from their night class on nautical warfare, but knowing there were Mafia about they decided to take the back route to their home. While walking through the last and only park on their journey home they heard a strange but faint laughter. A twig behind them snapped. They panicked- Caller turned and ran as fast as he could, while So no fek was petrified and could not move. The Mafioso stepped forward and ensured that So no fek would no longer be able to move. As he was running, Caller heard the laughter again, but more clearer. He looked up into the trees and a curiously clothed man glided down from the tree, but stumbled on the landing and fell over. To Callers’s surprise he burst out laughing. Not willing to take a chance, Caller backed away but his leg got caught in a trap and was hoisted into the air helpless. The Mafioso stood up walked over to Caller and tied his hands up with a bomb. Standing just outside of the blastzone, the Mafioso and Caller stared into each other’s eyes as Caller’s death was literally counting down. The blast destroyed Caller. The morning rooster crowed, and both Mafioso knew that So no fek still had to be dealt with. Upon checking his wallet they established his ironic death by making So no fek sink in the harbour.
YDGs profile: "The only courage that matters is the kind that gets you from one moment to the next." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mignon_McLaughlin Note that her quotes are quite ironic.
On July 10 2009 15:49 Malongo wrote: After reading this thread about 10 times i have to say that the theory of a mafia sacrifice in the first lynch (to save truthbringer) is looking quite solid. YDG has not being really helpful and all cases make him look as a bad townie at best. Now we can add a pretty good clue against him (imo). So id like to know what does the town think about lynching YDG in first place. + Show Spoiler +
The Laughter: Caller and So no fek were returning from their night class on nautical warfare, but knowing there were Mafia about they decided to take the back route to their home. While walking through the last and only park on their journey home they heard a strange but faint laughter. A twig behind them snapped. They panicked- Caller turned and ran as fast as he could, while So no fek was petrified and could not move. The Mafioso stepped forward and ensured that So no fek would no longer be able to move. As he was running, Caller heard the laughter again, but more clearer. He looked up into the trees and a curiously clothed man glided down from the tree, but stumbled on the landing and fell over. To Callers’s surprise he burst out laughing. Not willing to take a chance, Caller backed away but his leg got caught in a trap and was hoisted into the air helpless. The Mafioso stood up walked over to Caller and tied his hands up with a bomb. Standing just outside of the blastzone, the Mafioso and Caller stared into each other’s eyes as Caller’s death was literally counting down. The blast destroyed Caller. The morning rooster crowed, and both Mafioso knew that So no fek still had to be dealt with. Upon checking his wallet they established his ironic death by making So no fek sink in the harbour.
YDGs profile: "The only courage that matters is the kind that gets you from one moment to the next." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mignon_McLaughlin Note that her quotes are quite ironic.
so in this idea, YDG would be a pledge they were trying to sacrifice instead of truthbringer?
On July 10 2009 15:49 Malongo wrote: After reading this thread about 10 times i have to say that the theory of a mafia sacrifice in the first lynch (to save truthbringer) is looking quite solid. YDG has not being really helpful and all cases make him look as a bad townie at best. Now we can add a pretty good clue against him (imo). So id like to know what does the town think about lynching YDG in first place. + Show Spoiler +
The Laughter: Caller and So no fek were returning from their night class on nautical warfare, but knowing there were Mafia about they decided to take the back route to their home. While walking through the last and only park on their journey home they heard a strange but faint laughter. A twig behind them snapped. They panicked- Caller turned and ran as fast as he could, while So no fek was petrified and could not move. The Mafioso stepped forward and ensured that So no fek would no longer be able to move. As he was running, Caller heard the laughter again, but more clearer. He looked up into the trees and a curiously clothed man glided down from the tree, but stumbled on the landing and fell over. To Callers’s surprise he burst out laughing. Not willing to take a chance, Caller backed away but his leg got caught in a trap and was hoisted into the air helpless. The Mafioso stood up walked over to Caller and tied his hands up with a bomb. Standing just outside of the blastzone, the Mafioso and Caller stared into each other’s eyes as Caller’s death was literally counting down. The blast destroyed Caller. The morning rooster crowed, and both Mafioso knew that So no fek still had to be dealt with. Upon checking his wallet they established his ironic death by making So no fek sink in the harbour.
YDGs profile: "The only courage that matters is the kind that gets you from one moment to the next." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mignon_McLaughlin Note that her quotes are quite ironic.
so in this idea, YDG would be a pledge they were trying to sacrifice instead of truthbringer?
Yes. The main reason behind this is the way the voting went under L/BCs candidates. Im very suspicious of BCs behaviour this game since he has made some really bad calls in my book (like switching at last time from his "lynch-list" to lynch MBH// fighting L and me because i supported him// Only 2 real emperor campaigns// truthbringers vote// random very bad clues// switching from araav to ydgs to lynch// calling for this double lynch without saying a word// other bad calls). However i dont have the guts to call to lynch him yet as if he is town sided we would be losing 2 DLs.
Before looking foward to a next good lynch target i want to ask townies to vote RAIN. Its plain clear that last day rain was the best choice, i wont add more about that since its past. However take this in mind: Unless someone has a 100% valid target sunny is still bad, snow could be good depending on the clues but the only really good clue was 100% directed to our priest (note that BC tried to get the priest lynched based on that clue LOL), and last fog is not assured -1 KP depending on the lynchs since the bomber died. Even compared to a -1 KP Rain give us 4 protections on 4 hits and the angels have protection so its a very good position for us. Note that some players are very unlikely to be hit since they are suspects. Trust me mafia will have a hard time getting those hits into work and will be likely to force stacked hits. Summary: Vote RAIN please.
On July 10 2009 15:49 Malongo wrote: After reading this thread about 10 times i have to say that the theory of a mafia sacrifice in the first lynch (to save truthbringer) is looking quite solid. YDG has not being really helpful and all cases make him look as a bad townie at best. Now we can add a pretty good clue against him (imo). So id like to know what does the town think about lynching YDG in first place. + Show Spoiler +
The Laughter: Caller and So no fek were returning from their night class on nautical warfare, but knowing there were Mafia about they decided to take the back route to their home. While walking through the last and only park on their journey home they heard a strange but faint laughter. A twig behind them snapped. They panicked- Caller turned and ran as fast as he could, while So no fek was petrified and could not move. The Mafioso stepped forward and ensured that So no fek would no longer be able to move. As he was running, Caller heard the laughter again, but more clearer. He looked up into the trees and a curiously clothed man glided down from the tree, but stumbled on the landing and fell over. To Callers’s surprise he burst out laughing. Not willing to take a chance, Caller backed away but his leg got caught in a trap and was hoisted into the air helpless. The Mafioso stood up walked over to Caller and tied his hands up with a bomb. Standing just outside of the blastzone, the Mafioso and Caller stared into each other’s eyes as Caller’s death was literally counting down. The blast destroyed Caller. The morning rooster crowed, and both Mafioso knew that So no fek still had to be dealt with. Upon checking his wallet they established his ironic death by making So no fek sink in the harbour.
YDGs profile: "The only courage that matters is the kind that gets you from one moment to the next." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mignon_McLaughlin Note that her quotes are quite ironic.
so in this idea, YDG would be a pledge they were trying to sacrifice instead of truthbringer?
Yes. The main reason behind this is the way the voting went under L/BCs candidates. Im very suspicious of BCs behaviour this game since he has made some really bad calls in my book (like switching at last time from his "lynch-list" to lynch MBH// fighting L and me because i supported him// Only 2 real emperor campaigns// truthbringers vote// random very bad clues// switching from araav to ydgs to lynch// calling for this double lynch without saying a word// other bad calls). However i dont have the guts to call to lynch him yet as if he is town sided we would be losing 2 DLs.
ya i dunno, i know he's doing stuff out of the ordinary but no one seems to agree with me
Well I said I was going to look over the whole thread again to avoid getting caught up in the flavor of the day.
Here's what I've got:
Kuja900
BEHAVIOR
HAS YET TO POST IN THE THREAD. I'm sure any player that cared about the town would be able to do something productive by now.
CLUES
Why waste my time making a shitload of new analysis when other players have already done it and been buried by trolls and misinformation?
On July 06 2009 08:18 L wrote: Pretty sure Kuja900 and TruthBringer are mafia.
Kuja links up with explosives; his mybrute is the only one listed with a bomb, and the only mention of explosives in general.
TruthBringer's skeleton links up with the lead filled head, the reference to a lack of organic material in the skull and the arrogant walk.
Pretty simple and it fits with their activity in the thread.
Oh ho! So the same thinking that led L to our successful bagging of TruthBringer led him to Kuja. Biggest difference between the two probably being that TruthBringer posted obvious mafia tells while Kuja didn't post jack shit.
On July 06 2009 08:25 HeavOnEarth wrote: yeah kuja hasn't posted at all ..
Note how there's very little solid information directly related to the character besides for his love of explosives. He's the only one I have linked to explosives via his mybrute (I checked all of the one listed in profiles, as of right now, his is the only one with a bomb). He also seems to be fairly quick, which his character is."
ydg: "they're just voting for me (like chaoser, Kuja, scara) out of nowhere."
Kuja900's one of the players that voted after TruthBringer in quick succession for YDG. (thanks, Foolishness)
On July 10 2009 04:08 redtooth wrote: - The other reference to bombs is in Kuja900 where his mybrute has the ability to use bombs. Also, Kuja is a character from Final Fantasy IX and is stated to "dress very strangely". He could be the one that is "strangely garbed" with an obsession for bombs.
REFUTATIONS TO THE ABOVE ARGUMENTS - As the main villain, I find it odd for him not to stick that landing after he glided down from the trees. Also, from what I read in the wiki, laughing doesn't seem to be a strong point for him with him being emo and all.
And right after that is me muddying things up by calling out BC - at which point Kuja hasn't been mentioned since. My apologies.
Why didn't I get on Kuja earlier? Well, I figured the bombs were just about the suicide bomber. Yet, Scamp is dead and yet the next mafia kill is another bomb-related one. I think that's Plexa trying to tell us something.
From Day 3: "a curiously clothed man glided down from the tree"
Here's Kuja floating from a tree:
Now there's the matter of the refutation dutifully provided by my new friend (sorry :/) redtooth. Well, given TruthBringer's clues, it's clear that Plexa is coming at each mafia from several different angles instead of just one aspect. And I think this is where the quote in Kuja's profile comes in:
"On March 27 2009 12:11 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote: kuja pushes to the front and says "fakesteve, to be blunt it's doubtful at most that you wrote that post" fakesteve replied, "whatever, cunt""
This is attempting to be a limerick, but the meter and number of syllables is clumsily off in places. First line should be 8 or 9 syllables but is 7. Same with second line. Meter is off, too. Most limericks, including this one are meant to be humorously low-key, like how the bomber mafia acts.
CONCLUSION
It's not like we're gonna lose a good player because this guy hasn't posted and he bandwagoned away from TruthBringer. And we know it's not a mafia plant suspect since L first caught this.
So no fek was paralyzed or left inert. One mafia stayed to make sure he didnt move. and when he was dropped into the water later it would be because he was also made inept at saving himself.
very weak link to inertinept, but if someone has very little in a profile there isnt much to work on. Also he has a mention of a gust of wind in his profile, perhaps the first bit of laughter they heard was a gust of wind bringing in the sound?
On July 10 2009 17:11 BloodyC0bbler wrote: changing both my votes first one on kuja900 second on inertinept
BC you called to lynch YDG yesterday making a fairly good behavioral analysis. Today we have 2 people lynched and i pinned him down to a fairly convincig clue. Isnt YDG mafia anymore or im missing something?
I advocate to lynch Falcynn as well (besides Kuja). Besides the earlier clues that have been linked to him he has an old blog about his fear of black widows (The erratic fear of spiders mentioned in the first post).
He voted BC (whom I still don't trust, sorry) and YDG.
Also, while he has been very active in the previous mafia's I played with him (making blogs etc.) he has hardly posted in this one, only posts explaining his inactivity.
Well, I figured it was probably best for me to lie low since I didn't have much of use to mention during the course of this game. The last two mafia games I played imo I think I hurt the town more than help since I'm usually quick to jump on really crappy clues, and start bandwagons with other people. I thought that with all the other people who are seemingly inactive, I'd be safe in just lying low until I had something good to contribute. If this makes me suspicious (which I already know it does, but as I mentioned, I figured I'd be safe considering the other inactives) then I guess I'll do more to contribute, even if it doesn't do the town much good =/
(triple posting so my edits don't make me look like I'm hiding something)
and I guess me being quick to defend myself isn't helping my case. Whatever, I don't really think there's a strong enough case for any of the current alternatives for lynching, but I'll do my best to try to dig up any clues that haven't already been revealed for others.
THE MAFIA ARE HIDING. Look at the player list and count the number of people who have never posted or have only posted a few times. There are quite a few people that fall into this count. Also notice that some of these people have always voted, and some had voted for ydg which almost got ydg lynched over TruthBringer. Among these people are ecomania, kuja900, motbob, and chaoser. Since the vote was close, it would make sense the mafia would try to save TruthBringer.
THINK LOGICALLY ABOUT THIS! Does it make sense for mafia to be among: BC, LucasWoJ, Pyrry, ydg, me, redtooth? Or are the mafia inactive and hiding? If BC, Pyrry, Lucas, me, ydg, etc were mafia (or one or a few of us were mafia), it makes no sense for us to be drawing attention to ourselves, especially right now at a crucial point in the game. The mafia are watching us fight over each other. Even if one of us are mafia, we're still active contributers and it doesn't make sense to kill us right now (especially BC since he can double lynch).
vote for ecomania and kuja900. Based on the posts by Pyrry and myself this is the safest choice of action. It may turn out that one or maybe both are not mafia. However we will know by watching the votes and seeing if there is a bandwagon for one over the other or for another person altogether, similar how it became apparent ydg was innocent and TruthBringer was mafia.
if ecomania/kuja900 come up red those people voting for BC are taking a huge risk. You'll be next. Might want to reconsider voting off the emporer this early.