You know crate, of those 8 people Shikyo has accused so far, only 2 have turned up to be townspeople, and the rest are up for grabs. I'm sure you have suspicions against one of those other 6 people as well (I know I do).

Foolishness

United States3044 Posts

May 25 2009 06:07 GMT

#680

I also don't think Shikyo has pointed very many fingers so far (at least compared to some other people).

Foolishness

United States3044 Posts

May 25 2009 08:00 GMT

#683

I don't think any of those people have even said anything yet.

Foolishness

United States3044 Posts

May 25 2009 23:49 GMT

#790

On May 26 2009 05:32 teks wrote:
The thing about this game is that there are way too few people who actually post anything. That means that the mafia still hides, and we really have nothing to go on except clues. And the clues we have so far haven't really been bulletproof evidence. I'm pretty sure on RaYnE, but I was pretty sure on zeks as well and look how well that turned out.

About Shikyo, I'm still torn.

It is especially interesting that you mention this. I can recall one mafia game a while back (supposedly a noob game if I remember correctly), where the mafia hardly ever took part in discussion. They just sat back and watch the townspeople go crazy killing themselves. As they say, history does repeat itself.

crate, your accusations against Shikyo are well thought out and worth merit. Shikyo's recent response to anything and everything you said is not mafia style though. Surely you think the same way although it would totally reprimend your argument.

At this point, I would like to take time to address both Shikyo and crate in my usual fashion so far in this game: ARE YOU TWO BOTH BLINDLY STUPID? The town is sitting here with a confirmed townie (teks) who has access to everyone's supposed roles. Right now, as far as we know, we have a complete list of people who have yet to respond to that list. I'm willing to guarentee that nearly all the blue roles have already messaged him about this (there's no point in delaying if you are a blue role). If this is true we are sitting with a suspected mafia list and townspeople; MAYBE WE SHOULD START PICKING THEM OFF?

Honestly your bickering at each other is not helping the town at all. We have a list of people of which the majority is probably mafia. Why are you so insistent on deviating from the list? crate, I know you are stubborn and convinced that Shikyo is mafia, but as long as we stick to the list we are sure to be knocking out mafia (regardless if Shikyo is or not), especially since we got double lynch tomorrow (hopefully).

It's nice you got this argument against Shikyo, but it's not really needed right now. Maybe after a few more days when there are less people it might come in handy if we got nothing else to go by.

On this note, the town has little to gain from lynching Shikyo, even if he is a mafia. Shikyo claims to know 4 blue roles, and although he was a bit inactive day 2, he is still contributing to town discussion a lot. Isn't that what makes the mafia game? Contributing? Shouldn't we be lynching the non contributers? I got news for you buddy, teks is sitting here with a list of suspected mafia AND NEARLY ALL OF THEM ARE HARDLY ACTIVE! WHAT MORE DO YOU WANT? DO YOU WANT PYRRY TO TELL YOU WHO IS MAFIA? WILL YOU LISTEN THEN?

Not to mention, even if you think Shikyo is mafia, lets kill someone he hasn't voted for (since, assuming he is mafia, he wouldn't vote for his own kind). Last I looked, he voted for chaoser and ra.xor.2. Okay lets look at our list and pick someone else then. We got BWdero, clazzi, iLoveKTF, and more (I'm ignoring rayne for now).

It's plainly obvious that you're a townsperson of some sort crate. Why you would want to deviate from the list is painful.

Foolishness

United States3044 Posts

May 25 2009 23:55 GMT

#793

DONT DEVIATE FROM THE LIST IF YOU ARE A TOWNIE

THE LIST WE HAVE IS ABSOLUTE

Foolishness

United States3044 Posts

May 26 2009 00:03 GMT

#798

In order to exemplify what I mean, I'm going to explain to you all why we follow the list and not deviate from it. THE LIST IS ABSOLUTE

Let's consider all the ways in which the list are wrong:

1) Mafia lie about their roles. We would all expect mafia to all claim townsperson, in the event one of the lied (which might be the GF since if rolechecked he would come up as that role), then we will have list that's further narrowed down. If we got 4 people claiming medic, it should be relatively easy to figure out which one is lying.

Basically what I'm getting at, mafia are going to all claim townsperson. Thus all the blue roles will be fulfilled and we are left with townies and mafia.

2) Somebody lies about their role. In the event a blue person lied to protect themself then we are in quite a dilemma. I honestly don't see how this is possible. Most likely, blue roles were probably the first to message teks their role, then townies and mafia. I don't think anyone is stupid enough to make this happen.

3) The list is flawed because teks is mafia. I don't see how this is possible. This would mean there's another vigilante alive right now. I'm pretty sure he would've said something by now.

In conclusion, we will have a list of townies. All that's left is to start picking them off and have DT's start rolechecking others (be careful of millers). It does not make sense why we would need to break from this plan.

Foolishness

United States3044 Posts

May 26 2009 00:09 GMT

#800

The bandwagons of voting for Rayne is also worth mentioning. It seems to me Rayne is not mafia because of the same reasons Jayme isn't mafia. Here the argument "well why hasn't rayne said anything" does not hold much value to it.

On the other hand, if we go by crate's logic. Shikyo did not vote for rayne. Shikyo is mafia. Therefore rayne has a high chance of being mafia.

Foolishness

United States3044 Posts

May 26 2009 00:26 GMT

#807

I hope you guys realize, that if we do not hit a mafia tonight, it's going to be game over.

On the other hand, it will allow me to spam JeeJee and crate for their absolute stupidity, which I will rather enjoy.

Foolishness

United States3044 Posts

May 26 2009 00:37 GMT

#809

Unfortunately chaoser, we need teks here to sort out this mess. Day ends in the next 3-6 hours.

Foolishness

United States3044 Posts

May 26 2009 00:55 GMT

#812

I'm writing up a post right now.

Foolishness

United States3044 Posts

May 26 2009 01:01 GMT

#815

crate your stubborness and lack of post against what I said clearly says more than you think.

Foolishness

United States3044 Posts

May 26 2009 01:08 GMT

#817

Post something you loser. You're hurting the town by not saying anything and by not changing your votes.

Foolishness

United States3044 Posts

May 26 2009 01:13 GMT

#819

Okay I've been looking at a lot of things recently. As said before, mafia are going to wait until last minute to try to sway the votes.

List of people who have not voted.
epicdoom
iLoveKTF
BWdero
ydg
Ra.Xor.2
motbob

Of these people the ones that voted for Jayme are:
wurm
ydg
motbob
ra.xor.2

Of these 4 people, ydg has yet to roleclaim to teks. Motbob also roleclaimed rather late. Any of these 4 people are good candidates.

more coming shortly