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What has he been saying? Have you been in contact with Showtime? What has he been saying? Have you been in contact with Bloodycobbler? What has he been saying What do you think about Nemy? Why did you run for mayor as a veteran when veteran is the worst role to run for mayor? | ||
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Moving on. I think I need to reread the entire thread. Sort of play it from the mafia perspective. I'm pretty demotivated tonight so I'll get to it tomorrow at uni. In the meantime, we need to help her work out who she wants to hit or it going to be wasted. I really am at a loss right now who to suggest.. could we get some discussion on this? | ||
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Another point against 0cz3c is that when he's mafia he likes to post stupidly long posts that have close to 0 actual content to distract the town, which I believe a few pages ago might have been an example of. I don't trust my mafia-judgement atm enough to say it's lynch worthy but I figured I'd put that out there for everyone to discuss. I'm still going through the thread again. L's earlier post sums up my feelings on the matter quite well. I agree with vigi-ing MBH, we don't really have a better target and Dreamflower needs to use her hit before she's killed. | ||
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On May 22 2009 09:55 0cz3c wrote: You might believe, Bockit? Doesn't that suggest that you haven't read it? Yup. yes it does. "but I figured I'd put that out there for everyone to discuss." Thanks. We aleady discussed it. Why bring it up again? Because mafia are hoping to use me as the next object to destroy the town? We fell for it with Ace and Ver; don't you dare attempt to do that here again. I defended myself adequately BloodyCobbler. Placing suspicions again on me suggests that you're foolish or that you're in the mafia. Really just one or the other. You said your specialty is in clues? Then why the hell do you suck so terribly this game at discerning the meaning of clues? Maybe contribute instead of covering up? Hmmm? I don't have to speak for my innocence more than I already have. Rather, I think you better start defending yourself. >.> No, I did read it. My language choice is saying that I don't trust my judgement at the moment, after what happened during the votes yesterday. That's why I'm putting it out for others to discuss. | ||
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The anti-MBH conspiracy What do we know about MBH? - L was working with him - MBH was instrumental in regards to Caller's death. - L trusted MBH - L was town-aligned With only 6 mafia, I sincerely doubt MBH is even willing to sacrifice one mafia player (Caller) to gain trust with the town. At this stage, mafia don't even need it, town had no idea what was going on and mafia were clearly in a great position. At this stage I am confident MBH is innocent. On top of this, he's called out 0cz3c, another huge suspect (which I'll get to later on in this post). If I doubt a mafia player was willing to sacrifice 1 mafia, there's no way they're willing to sacrifice 2. So I'm operating under the assumption that MBH is innocent. It's clear from the day 3 morning post that mafia were out to take out an inner circle. L was working Dreamflower and MBH. Both L and DF were on the mafia hitlist, and as far as mafia were concernd MBH was going to be taken care of by a vigi. So not needing to take him out, I am guessing that mafia decided to try and snipe a potential blue at the same time, which explains the hit on infundibulum instead of MBH. Then 1 minute before the day post, we find out something has changed. We know now that it was DF changing her hit from MBH to Caller. We also know that mafia didn't change their hitlist. This is the only reason mafia didn't hit MBH. They didn't need to, they'd already convinced the town to vigi him. Since morning, there has now been a move to get MBH lynched. Despite the fact that he was instrumental in our first mafia kill. Mafia weren't successful getting him vigi'd, now they're trying to lynch him. 0cz3c He gets his own section, he's that suspicious. Points I have made before (MBH has also used some of these in his analysis) - Brother to lucaswoj: If anyone makes sense for reading lucas as a potential blue it's him. The hit on lucas doesn't make sense otherwise. This works in reverse too. As mafia, he would be scared of lucas because he would have a high chance of finding out 0cz3c is mafia. If you had a twin brother who wasn't mafia, you'd want to kill him asap. - Long useless posts: 0cz3c as mafia last game specifically made his posts long and full of useless content so as to distract the town. We've seen a couple of these in the last few pages, and also earlier in the game. New Points: - MBH's clue analysis. - The modkill request: Where Ver used the modkill as a removal of himself from the game when he knew he was going to be causing more problems than he solved if he stayed, 0cz3c is trying to use it to prove his innocence, and also bludgeon the town into voting for MBH. Doing this doesn't help the town at all and just causes more chaos. He's been called out on this but has seemed to ignore it. - Fucking nuts defense: His defense screams mafia. Trying to accuse the accuser and not really dealing with the accusations. He's my #1 suggestion for the lynch. Caller Some very interesting posts by Caller. On a sidenote: I would say one of Caller's tells is that he gets 'chummy' with people who he's associated with/are on his side. I've seen it in a few games now. + Show Spoiler + That being said, here are my top suspects. MBH/Camlito: Clearly somebody has been bluesniping. Why else would they hit mikeymoo and Lucas and Fishball, both of whom were trying to stay dl? The only people I know in the game that are still capable of doing that are those two. Dreamflower: While behaviorally, dreamflower isn't that suspicious, the clue analysis fit in pretty well. However, the clue analysis may have fit too well, and that usually means it's not quite right. Combined with the vigilante roleclaim, I think we should wait on this and see if a vigi hit does go through. Showtime! BC made a clue post a while back that pointed really, REALLY well to Showtime!. Combined with MTF's above analysis about us middle-of-the-roaders, I think we should keep an eye on him. I'm trying to get nemy to do a RC/CC on him, so we'll wait on that to see if it goes through. HeavonEarth: What has he been doing exactly? I haven't seen a single constructive post from him. Not much else to say about this. Malongo: He's been trolling just as much as I have all game, except he hasn't been taking a position except suggesting we should lynch anybody that suspects him. Malongo plays weird like that, but yeah, still a bit strange. And that's all I have to say about that. These ones regarding nemy, really incriminating against nemy. On May 20 2009 06:05 Ace wrote: He's not a confirmed DT stop saying that nonsense. his cluecheck came out the way one would believe. I sincerely doubt that he would intentionally put that "red herring" picture in there for no good reason. On May 20 2009 05:49 0cz3c wrote: Caller should be getting protection from at least one medic, by the way. And I doubt that nemY is mafia. No use to kill a DT, Ace. I don't need protection. Nemy needs the protection most, he's essentially a confirmed dt. On May 19 2009 15:08 Incognito wrote: Show nested quote + Hey guys I just realized...IF THIS IS REAL ANOTHER DT HAS THE SAME PIC. If you are this DT, it is safe to roleclaim to nemY. If you do not have this same pic, nemY is a fraud. I doubt Qatol would send a red herring pic to one DT and not the other. Is my logic flawed here anyone? if the other dt got the clue right he wouldn't send the red herring pic... but i'm pretty sure nemy is safe to roleclaim to. On May 19 2009 14:28 nemY wrote: Ugh fine take it for what it's worth please. Hide nested quote - Original Message: No, that is not a clue. Red herring! http://sketchedout.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/red-herring_color.jpg ----------------------------------------- Original Message: since i'm running out of time, been busy, and haven't receieved much input i'll ask, is "There was no clear horizon separating the star-filled sky and the dark, choppy waters of the Liquia Sea." a clue related to any mafia players? If i had more time and had actually been thinking about it, i'd get a better question. Enjoy. I think this is legit lol. Example of aforementioned chumminess On May 19 2009 14:25 nemY wrote: Hide nested quote - On May 19 2009 14:23 Caller wrote: On May 19 2009 14:17 nemY wrote: nothing useful, "There was no clear horizon separating the star-filled sky and the dark, choppy waters of the Liquia Sea." is red-herring. I'ma die tonight. could we get the actual pm pls? Can you guarantee my protection for tonight? i don't know any medics... but i can offer you my psychic internet anti-mafia wards XD On May 19 2009 14:17 nemY wrote: nothing useful, "There was no clear horizon separating the star-filled sky and the dark, choppy waters of the Liquia Sea." is red-herring. I'ma die tonight. could we get the actual pm pls? We see that Caller was trying to set nemy up as both a likely innocent, and roleclaimable (as in, we should roleclaim to nemy). Why would mafia do that if he was innocent? I can think of many reasons why they'd do that if he's mafia. And if he was innocent, why haven't they killed him? It's not like they've had hits that were blocked by medics yet. They even had an extra hit that they used on infundibulum instead of nemy. Town at this stage is ignoring him so they can't rely on town to kill him. Who's lynch candidate #2? At the moment, It's a tossup between HeavOnEarth, MTF and nemy for me. HeavOnEarth and MTF are both people I would call major players in the MBH conspiracy, if you want evidence for this, read their posts from Ver getting modkilled through to now, keeping in mind the order in which the posts occur after major events. For example, when DF says she's thinking of going for MBH, we immediately get responses from MBH and HeavOnEarth agreeing with no further input. Also for MTF he keeps trying to link clues to MBH. Keep in mind, nothing by itself is bad, I'm looking at the larger picture here, taking into account the accumulation of actions of players. And finally for MTF I have a very fishy pm from him, where he is almost blatantly trying to fish for a townie circle. Ah, had forgotten about that staff perk. Well, in any case it doesn't really matter whether they asked you to or not to me. As I said, promoting voting activity is only ever a good thing. So, I'm gonna guess you, Showtime, and possibly Plexa have a sort of group thing going on? I only say that because you seemed to be in communication with other people early on in the game, Plexa is inactive in the thread (probably hiding under town's suspicion) and Showtime likes to build up stuff from behind the scenes. No need to really answer me, of course. I'm just trying to develop some skills beyond doing cluework in the game, so thought I'd take a guess. We also have some clue analysis from an associate, MTF is an acronym for Musculoskeletal Transplant Foundation. Works pretty well for a rake up the arse and replacing the spine one might say. But going over his post history, for every really suspicious thing he's done, he's also done something that helps the town. Which is kind of perfect mafia play really.I can't decide what I think about him at the moment, so I suggest we wait on MTF, and instead lynch HeavOnEarth as #2 for a combination of the reasons mentioned by previous posters and also because his defense was mafia-esque. While writing this showtime posted that pm log and commentary. Based on that plus the stuff that's been brought up against tricode already by BC and showtime! before, I think tricode is as good, possibly better lynch candidate than heavon today, as we have both clues and behaviour. So I'm going to vote 0cz3c and tricode, along with a double lynch. I'd urge people to vote similarly, but I'd be happy if heavon was killed instead of tricode. 0cz3c must die though. | ||
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Before Ver died, he let me know that you were an unsubstantiated DT. If this is true, I need you to do a RC on Bockit-Ver highly suspected him. If you aren't a DT, wrong number. Sincerely, ~a noob Before Ver died, he let me know that you were an unsubstantiated medic. If you are, please protect Scaramanga tonight. I have a feeling he will be hit as I think mafia is blue sniping. If not, wrong number. Sincerely ~asshole vigilante Look like a mafia template for fishing for blue anyone? | ||
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the first one was from tricode in showtime's post the second one was from malongo in his own post | ||
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0cz3c, nemY, MTF, fusionsdf (star clues), Plexa, heavonearth | ||
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On May 24 2009 12:34 MTF wrote: Yes, it's close to the end of the lynch anyway, so it's not going to swing votes. I just want to clarify here: You are a suspect to me, I don't think you're lynch worthy today as we have 3 better candidates in my mind (HOE, 0cz and Tricode). I'll post my stuff once the lynch goes through, don't want to distract the town at the moment. | ||
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