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On May 18 2009 07:46 mikeymoo wrote: Lynching Folca was the correct decision, and even as a townie in that game, I still stand by that, and Ace has posted pages and pages since then justifying why you always lynch the guy r/cing. This. | ||
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About pardoner and why I voted mynock before I went to bed. 1) I wasn't aware that he'd asked for pardoner, thanks for pointing that out. 2) I was more concerned with someone other than nemy getting in. I felt the need to put my vote on the candidate most likely to do that and I was unsure if I'd sleep past the voting deadline. So I voted Mynock over Ace because he was a vote up on Ace. I've since changed my vote from Mynock to Ace because I would prefer Ace to get into power, also it moves ver to pardoner, mynock out of the running and ace to mayor, which is significantly different to the votes as they stood for the majority of the election, which I'm hoping if it's disrupted any mafia plans will bring a scurry of vote changing that we can look at after the election is over. Nemy: Why won't you post the pms? I'd understand if it was just one guy asking you to do it, but it's pretty much everyone who's playing. | ||
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On May 18 2009 07:52 Incognito wrote: This what? Is why you swtiched voting to Ace 20 minutes ago and said you were going to post an explanation, only to take 20 minutes to quote someone and write one word??? Because I had to read the thread? There were about 4 pages to catch up on. I changed my vote due to certain pms I received when I logged into tl, based on questions I'd asked certain people before I even changed my vote from showtime to mynock, who hadn't responded until I had already gone to bed. Me quoting a post and saying "This" means I in general echo the sentiments of "This" ie the quote I posted. In other words, I agree with mikeymoo. | ||
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On May 18 2009 07:58 BloodyC0bbler wrote: The issue being bockit, Ace has gotten random mystery votes, showing signs of mafia possibly pushing him into mayor position. They auto lynch nemy, he in worst case scenario flips blue and town starts the we are fucked boat. I will admit, I haven't checked the vote thread yet, again, I voted after seeing my pms, irrespective of having read the thread, because I couldn't be arsed doing time conversions and just wanted to get my vote in before any vote closing. I'm now going to re-read the last few pages and check vote thread and see if I want to change my vote! | ||
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And yet he's not. Btw incognito, why make a post calling Ver out on this, and then follow it up with "why is nobody commenting on this" and then move your vote from Ace (Believe it or not, I can understand why you are worried about a bandwagon, I'm not personally worried about this, in fact I'm happy that he got the votes but I can understand your worries) to Ver? And if you feel that strongly about Ace, you just put him into pardoner, which most people are willing to agree is a more powerful position than mayor for mafia. This is a large factor in why I put my vote on Ace from Mynock, because it disrupted the current status quo of the election and I wanted to see who made moves to put it back to where it was. | ||
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I especially want to hear more from Ver. | ||
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Incognito, ignore most of my post, I thought you moved from Ace to Ver, not showtime to Ver, that changes a lot. My bad. | ||
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Regardless of the rest of Ver's post (I still have to decide what I think about that) I want an innocent in office and I think that since Ver is pretty much guaranteed at this point (we haven't been able to knock any of his voters off even when trying to stop the nemy train) I'd like to disrupt any potential mafia plans involving Ace/Mynock (the other contenders, not saying you are mafia, rather that you could be, so why not get rid of you both from the equation) and swap in showtime at the last minute. Putting this out there now, if it looks like mynock will get in over ace during the hopeful transition of votes to showtime I'll be swapping back. | ||
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If nemy looks like he's going to get into office then I'll be going back to Ace as well. | ||
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I'm going to leave my vote on Showtime! in case people decide they want to avoid the murkiness surrounding Ver/Ace/Mynock atm and wish to join me on the cleanest candidate around! | ||
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But arguing about whether or not they roleclaimed is sidetracking. I believe that Ver is mafia and this is why: 1) Posting habits. Ver as part of his platform posted this: I don't have anything to say about accountability because I'll make it glaringly obvious that I'm on the town's side. Because being mafia takes so much time I only make the minimum number of posts; when I'm town it's the exact opposite Pretty much unfulfilled. It's day 2 and we haven't even heard the word 'plan' from you. All you've done is give half-arsed defense of yourself. You keep saying 'I've got a bunch to say' and never say it. I could go on but you all get the point. He gave us the signs of what we were to look for if he was innocent, and they haven't arrived. On top of this, I beg you all to take a look at the last game if you have the time. Read Ver's posts. There aren't too many. He's posting in the same style as he was then, and he's posting the same amount he was then. Oh and he was mafia back then too. 2)The traitor Ver to Nemy Here's what I think: you're the traitor Ver on what he thought lucaswoj's role was (post death) I never talk with MM and lucas thought I was the traitor Really? Did you? Cos I could swear you thought nemy was the traitor. Funny thing about traitors in this game. There's only one. Did you change your mind? Why didn't you lynch nemy then? If you thought lucas was the traitor, then nemy must have been mafia (in your mind, as an innocent), because you along with most of us here think that nemy isn't a dt. Oh and did I forget to mention? Let's have a look at your good ol' percentage list. From the 2nd list he posted nnocents list: Caller 97% BC 93% Malongo 85% Tricode 84% Lucaswoj 83% Incognito 80% Fusionsdf 77% Innocent traitor eh? Nice work. 3) Infinity21 You lynched infinity21 out of nowhere. Seriously nowhere. You asked town what they thought out of MTF, Amber[light], MBH. You asked Ace what he thought about Amber[light] or MBH. And then you decided, hey, let's go with this other guy, who not only hasn't been brought up in previous first-day lynch discussions, was only on the bottom of your suspects list, at a measly 70% compared to a bunch in high 90s and 80s. You're so suspicious of Mynock and you still went for infinity21. Nice. I'm pretty damn confident Ver is mafia. And I'm voting to lynch him, and I urge you all to do so as well. I've written this in an emotional rather than analytical style because I want to elicit responses. To see who comes to defend Ver. I'm also tempted to vote for a double lynch, but I'm not sure if that should go ahead quite yet. I'd suggest we wait till the 2nd realtime day of this day till we decide on that, hopefully new info will come up. Now to start some clue analysis. | ||
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On May 20 2009 00:18 dreamflower wrote: MTF, that was beautiful clue analysis, especially given the clues we've had to work with, and I can't describe how sad I am to be one of the suspects you listed. Here are my responses for your post. Mafia A I agree, I like infundibulum for this one too. He's the only player whose profile contains anything medically-related; I couldn't find anything else about medicine, syringes, needles or even drugs. (Of course, this might also be influenced by the fact that in Chuiu's game, someone was killed with a syringe and everyone assumed it was infundibulum, including me.) Furthermore, the emphasis on sounds in the later part of the paragraph really suggests infundibulum, whose profile is full of musical references and the Hammerstein quote. The only other potential flaw I could think of is that syringes are not funnel-shaped (I hope) or at least are usually thought of as cylinders with only a small funnel at the very end near the needle. However, that was an extremely minor part of your analysis. Mafia B Again, this is fantastic analysis, and damn, I wish I weren't the suspect you arrived at in the end. Linking the quote at the end was excellent, though I would argue that the answer to mikeymoo's prayers would not have been an end to his sore throat, but his life. So, in that sense, his prayers were not answered. The behavior of the Mafia seems to indicate being easily distracted and not perceptive, as shown by his watching LucasWoJ's death instead of going after mikeymoo right away and then totally missing mikeymoo. However, he does exhibit focus when he hunts after mikeymoo, so it's not as though he were totally devoid of mental processes. He just misses details, even glaring ones. Someone sleepwalking or daydreaming would probably have completely wandered off or forgotten, instead of being distracted for a moment before hunting mikeymoo down quite attentively and thoroughly. Because of the focused brutality of the killing and the fact that the killer misses details, I might tentatively suggest Heavonearth. His quote at the end includes a link that reads "http://l0lhi.mybrute.com." I didn't click on the link, but the words "my brute" does fit the way mikeymoo was killed. In addition, his profile also includes a series of letters (rather like an eye chart), followed by the sentence: "What's the pattern? no really tell me, i have no clue :O" This suggests someone who doesn't notice patterns or details, like mikeymoo's killer. Mafia C Good Lord, but that is a horrible way to die. I thought of Ver as well, because of his rape quote and the rake up the butt. My only point of disagreement is that it's Fishball who died, and I remember that Ver said he's always had a hard time reading Fishball. I don't know if that has changed, but I'm not sure he normally would have been able to discern his role. For my part, I admit I immediately thought of MrBabyHands because of his quote. Just because it references both, ahem, butt holes and manliness, and the only other thing that can be used to make clues for him would be his name. I'm doing some clue analysis of my own and just started going through your stuff now, just a note about Mafia C: it's not particularly relevant that fishball died. Whoever figured out that fishball is a medic isn't necessarily the one who killed him. And if it was, it's just chance. | ||
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Day 1: Person 1: Nothing I can really define as a clue. Day 1: Person 2: unable to locate the speaker a blur as his assailant leapt at him Traits: Nothing I can really pull out of this Day 2: Person 1: one of them screamed and charged at LucasWoJ attacker pulled out a syringe and slammed it into LucasWoJ's right eye The assailant bellowed again the only sounds left were guttural yells Traits: Yelling, screaming, bellowing, loud noises, syringe Day 2: Person 2: initially transfixed by the brutal killing suddenly remembered that there was another target and began the hunt couldn't find anyone After passing the set of curtains with a conspicuous pair of shoes sticking out for the third time ~ he heard mikeymoo sneeze (Red herring I think) Traits: Short attention span/memory, easily distracted Day 2: Person 3 the man calmly following him the other man surveyed the inside of the shed "This would have been a lot less painful for you if you had faced me like a man. You need to develop a stronger backbone; I am going to help you with that," ~ quipped the Hitman (Possibly a literary device, unusual word though to describe the assailant (unusual in the context of this and previous games)) He then shoved the rake in his hand into Fishball from behind, handle first, as far as he could. Traits: Meticulous, calm, controlled, rape. EDIT: I edited the title of the first person, accidentally listed as 'Person 2' | ||
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So town, our job today is to pick which candidate we think is the mafia candidate, and remove him. Please distribute your votes between Ace or Ver. Doing anything else hurts the town at this stage. I strongly suggest you vote Ver for reasons I've posted earlier in the thread, but I'll leave that to your discretion. | ||
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