EPTToo many votes for him now though :/ Also what the fuck is with the inactives coming out of the woodwork for this?
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RebirthOfLeGenD
USA5860 Posts
Too many votes for him now though :/ Also what the fuck is with the inactives coming out of the woodwork for this? | ||
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t_co
United States702 Posts
On May 03 2009 02:36 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: What the fuck? When the hell did we decide to go kill our mayor when we can wait a day or two and better determine his alignment? There is too many votes in favor of Qatol, although I think he might be mafia this is jumping the gun a bit. Too many votes for him now though :/ Also what the fuck is with the inactives coming out of the woodwork for this? Remember that there are two mafias, so we can judge by inactive voting who's on the enemy mafia of Qatol. | ||
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t_co
United States702 Posts
On May 03 2009 02:36 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: What the fuck? When the hell did we decide to go kill our mayor when we can wait a day or two and better determine his alignment? There is too many votes in favor of Qatol, although I think he might be mafia this is jumping the gun a bit. Too many votes for him now though :/ Also what the fuck is with the inactives coming out of the woodwork for this? Or better yet, if Qatol is not on the two mafias, then we've played both mafias into coming out with votes to try and lynch a member of the "opposing" mafias. | ||
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QuickStriker
United States3694 Posts
On May 03 2009 02:23 Qatol wrote: As far as I can tell, he's saying that BC is organizing his day posts and we should look at clue analysis. Then he goes off talking about his nephew. In other words, its a lot of words which barely contribute to the thread at all. Isn't that generally a mafia tactic? Appearing active by posting but not really contributing? I just don't understand why people aren't making a bigger deal of this........... Since people will inevitably question why I have been gone since before the day post, I got laid off yesterday and mafia was not a priority. Basically I'm sharing my feedback in the best of my capability and reasoning skills. Sorry if I aren't as smart as you are or anyone else. I tend to explain a lot with only means few things meaning I'm not an experienced thinker who gives reasonable control of details that make sense so if that's just a taunt of saying how I'm stupid, I'm really offended. I'm just trying to help in the best of my ability with my limited time in my computer. But it seems to me that you just don't understand my situation well enough to go clear on and start to accuse me just because you have no one to really pick on and also the fact that you didn't really defended yourself well of why the heck you're not mafia. And I will state what I have said in my voting thread in which I think we need to have Qatol to answer in order to convince why he shouldn't be voted off. On May 03 2009 04:29 QuickStriker wrote: Basically I haven't really seen our mayor out being so supportive with details on why and how he's not mafia for 100%. Until he gives us that insight that he is definitely not mafia in whatsoever way, I believe he might be tricking us for some sense. Also for personal feelings on how he voted against me and crictized me for my posts in which I gave an explaniation telling why the hell I wasn't around for a bit. For the account, this is my very first actual vote on someone in this game. And finally I will, I did take a look at Malongo's post earlier on and he did make a good point especially with his supportive detail to look at someone who I never even come across of lordweird. I haven't really seen him even post a single post in this game (sorry if I haven't really come across it) but I did take a look on his profile and after checking the day post again, I sort of see the revelance that BC have laid out for us. So I do think he might be a good candidate but, like I said before, until Qatol explain to us otherwise with reasonable senseable details on how the heck he's not mafia, I'm sticking with Qatol and not toward Malongo's suggestions. On May 02 2009 17:48 Malongo wrote: The man is DRUNK. I ask the real townies to vote lynch lordweird. Note that his profile can be linked to other clues like day 2 the guy that does something in the eyes of his victim and others. I ask to skip lynching qatol for now. The reason is quite simple: he is quite likely to be mafia but IF there are two mafias in the game his 3 votes can be useful for the town. If we lynch Qatol at this stage we lose that, also note how easily Qatol got his first votes to get lynched, and the profile from those players. Malongo does make a good point about the 3 votes being useful for the town but at the same time, if Qatol really is mafia, then he will definitely find a way to use it to his own advantage of his side in which would be mafia. If anything, couldn't we elect a new mayor if there is no mayor in the town? Surely, the town must need a mayor to run or it becomes anarchy and goes in utter horrible chaos.... | ||
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QuickStriker
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JeeJee
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Vivi57
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0cz3c
United States564 Posts
On May 02 2009 18:49 Vivi57 wrote: Meh, I've been so lazy about this game. when I get the chance, I'm going to do some clue analysis and try to build on what we have. It's just so hard to get myself to do this knowing that last game, we didn't get a single mafia through clue analysis. Did everyone miss this? The strongest link to Qatol isn't a clue towards him. Is the lynch based off vengence or just not caring? Is there actually anything to go on for this lynch? I might be missing something, but why does everyone seemingly have the propensity to vote for someone who has been definitively linked as NOT a mafia? Although Qatol clearly does not have the making of a good leader (which I forecast when I asked anyone/someone to begin another campaign for mayor), it seems that he's not mafia, or, at least, the only thing upon which we had him pinned has come back negative. The fact that people are considering killing someone who we have evidence has no basis to be called mafia really worries me; this charge is irrational, and I think needs to be explored more fully. Things to consider: 1) That it isn't a DT message. What that would suggest is that Incognito is aligned with Qatol. If it's not a DT message, and indeed a DT is currently thinking to himself, "Wait, the clue came up red" or "Huh? I never checked that clue!" then here is my advice. I'd assume that by this time a DT would have checked the clue or any other convincing clue to Qatol, as it's THE ONLY clue analysis we've really had this game (Malongo's analysis is actually convincing, but far too premature to have any DT action, I think). If that has not yet happened, the DT, if she/he had not yet used a clue check for today should get on that. However if he or she has and has found something contrary to Incognito's post, then he or she has two options. State it blatantly to the town. That's risky. You'll probably end up being hit. Secondly, you can choose to find a mouth. This can also be dangerous. This can be a risky call, but it seems to me that Caller is indeed a vig (dreamflower makes a convincing case). If Incognito's post is indeed legitimate and no other DT (presumably because the one who PM'd incognito is the only one left), then this is obvious, but also essential to say, since it seems that few have actually thought in this game: a medic should protect incognito. He would be useful to the town has he would have contact with the detective. 2) Once that is settled, again, I'm questioning what benefit there is to kill Qatol. Our only apparent clue to him (if there are any others, please state them; I tend to ignore clues and focus on behavior, and, behaviorally speaking, Qatol seems less involved and therefore less involved) does not match to him. Why would the town vote for this? There's only one mafia dead, and we're disorganized. Killing Qatol because he's less active is stupid (as is killing for the reason mynock surreptiously has decided upon: "I don't even care if he's Mafia. He deserves this."). I'm not saying he's mafia. I can't say for certain yet. I'm saying we shouldn't be saying that killing a mayor because we don't like the job he's doing is a win. It's a loss. Find someone against whom we have substantial evidence against and lynch them. We can't just decide to continue to be disorganized and hope for chance to win this game; we're already behind. 3) With that said, I'm asking Qatol to be more useful for us. We need you to help us. In previous games you were making constant note of people's activity; you're not doing that this time around. If you are indeed making/exchanging ideas privately with an inner circle, you're safe. You have bodyguards. You can say things without the worry of being killed by the mafia. What has been said? It's been almost a week, I think, so I suspect something MUST have been said. The evidence (or lack thereof) compels me to sway my vote away from your lynching; however, if this inactivity persists, then you really are only hurting the town. Please help us. One more day without a mafia dead will put us almost certainly irretrievably behind. 4) Activity. I've been viewing the thread, and very little has been said. I only make posts when there's anything constructive to say; however, when NO ONE is saying anything (i.e., not even posting), then that's a problem. It's especially a problem for the town. If your strategy is to stay low, then it's only useful for some purposes. If you're a townie, it is never useful. Post something that can help us exchange our ideas. If the same few convinced people continues posting something about nothing, then we have this game lost. I'm going to look at malongo's post and QuickStriker's behavior on the whole before I make any judgments; however, I'll also keep an open mind with any other potential mafias. I urge you to do the same. | ||
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RebirthOfLeGenD
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Tricode
United States538 Posts
We have no proof of Qatol is mafia through clues. But there are others who seemed to have more clues linked to them. Let's try to lower the mafia kp. | ||
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Tricode
United States538 Posts
I feel quickstriker is a more potential target. Some deaths happen in a way that you can consider them being quickily striked with little time wasted. | ||
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L
Canada4732 Posts
We can't just decide to continue to be disorganized and hope for chance to win this game; we're already behind. I think this is really important. ITS FUCKING DAYTIME, AND WE HAVE A BUNCH OF CLUES STARING US IN THE FACE AND NO ONE'S PRESENTING ANALYSIS. I'm pretty goddam terrible at it, so I decided to highlight clues and brainstorm around them, yet besides for me and one other player there's ZERO clue discussion going on and activity is near zero. Like, I'm ANGRY about this. We asked for people to only sign up if they'd have time. I CHECKED THIS FUCKING THREAD WHILE I WAS IN THE EXAM ROOM WRITING A FINAL (lol laptops) and other people have the balls to vote and never post here? I mean shit, either there are some AWESOME underground PM rings going down or the town is fucked. Can we get inactive players booted out? Can we replace them with people who actually want to play? | ||
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Vivi57
United States6599 Posts
With that in mind, Rage and truthbringer left the bar they had been hiding in. Rage walked down the street, gun in hand, with truthbringer following closely behind. As rage turned onto the block in which he lived, he heard a grunt from behind him, he turned and leveling his gun, saw a garrote wire around Truthbringers neck, and a figure standing closely behind him. He darted to the side to get a better shot, only to feel something slam into the back of his left leg, dropping him to the ground, as he turned his head to the side, he caught a quick glimpse of a man swinging a long object, caving rage head in. Quickly thereafter truthbringer head rolled across the sidewalk. Across town, Fakesteve[tpr], amber[light], and infundibulum were staked out inside fakesteve’s house. The three had each taken up guard at different points in the house to prevent being hit. Fakesteve was in the living room, behind a couch, gun pointed at the largest window, waiting for mafia to attempt to enter. Amber[light] was at the top of the stairs with a rifle aimed at the front door, and Infundibulum had a shotgun aimed at the backdoor. The three waited in silence, for any sound of an attack. Amber[light] was the first to hear a sound, and slowly turning, he heard a creaking sound from a room down the hall. Cautiously he investigated, and slid into the room. He saw Fakesteve’s computer on, which he knew had been turned off hours earlier, so he moved around the room, looking for signs of entry. As he passed the desk he noticed a weird phrase on the screen. As amber[light] looked down from the computer, he noticed a figure under the desk, and a metal glint in his hand. Two silent shots later, amber[light] collapsed to the ground, and the man fired another shot into the body’s head for good measure. Infundibulum heard a thud from upstairs, and slowly started to back up, moving for the staircase to check on his friend. As he turned to the staircase, he noticed a man staring at him from the kitchen, he moved forward weapon in hand, and charged, and let a shot fire. The cupboards splintered open, and the man ducked to the side, and flew his arm out to the side waving an object at Infundibulum, with a wicked smile on his face. As the man hit the floor, infundibulum reloaded, then moving forward again, slipped on the debris on the ground, and dropped his gun, which hit the ground and fired, shredding Infundibulum’s chest. Fakesteve[tpr] never had a chance to retaliate; he turned towards the kitchen at the sound of shotgun fire, only to be enveloped in a black shroud. He felt an object glide through his shoulder and down to his heart, and something probe his jacket pockets before the void took him. Three blocks away, Ace was gathering his things, and then lifting a hood over his head, he left his house, in search of clues towards the mafia hidden in the town. As he left his house, he saw a man, eyes wide open, shakily level a machine gun. Moment’s later ace was dead. Showtime! and laxercannon headed for the gunshots, hoping to be able to save whomever they could. As they ran, they saw a man hiccupping and swaying moving towards them. Showtime moved to see if he was ok, and moved his hands to steady him, the next thing Showtime! knew, he had a knife stuck in his chest. Laxercannon turned, and drawing a knife of his own he moved to attack the man, only to stop dead, as an arrow pierced his neck. As laxercannon fell, he saw a man stepping out of a nearby alley. ------------------------------------------------------- The weird phrase is really interesting, its appeared twice now, we should really try to find out what that means. Infidibulum (sp?) died from an accident, didn't someone else die from an accident a few days earlier? This really isn't much, but hopefully it'll be one less thing to do and will motivate someone to do a proper analysis | ||
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LucasWoJ
United States936 Posts
I think we've been tackling clue analysis wrong this game. It was mentioned earlier in the thread that the clues, for the most part, are blatantly obvious. We've been overlooking simple things, I'm sure, and have forgotten to analyze why anyone's died (if that's unclear, read the general thoughts below). The town dispersed once more, fleeing for the safety. Some went to their homes, others to places they believed to be safe. Everyone thought they were safe, the clock had struck 2, and no sounds were yet to be heard, all was clear this night. The town gathered together for the day lynch and then separated directly after. This leaves it left more vulnerable, and sometime in between, the most exposed townies are killed (remember the day two post when fusiondf and pyrhuloxia split up. Each of them is killed individually). Although the above quote would typically not serve as a clue because it is not a direct characterization of a mafioso, I'd argue that it is in this scenario. It's clearly a behavioral thing in this game. The mafia as a group only targets the group most unprotected and most susceptible to an attack. The first thing that crossed my mind as I re-read the exact same opening for another day was "these guys are cowards." Perhaps that's the code word for one of them. Furthermore, the segment that I boldened feels significant because it's exactly the same thought repeated on both sides of a "period." Although it's entirely incorrect stylistically, it have been done intentionally to draw attention to how secure Rage and truthbringer felt even though they were exposed. It seems odd that they would feel utterly safe at 2 AM outside, by themselves, in a town where people have been dying (they're armed which is possibly the reason for feeling safe). Someone mentioned this earlier and because it really resonated with me, I must say that it seems like they're intoxicated. They completely disregard their surroundings, and let their guards down, leaving them defenseless. With that in mind, Rage and truthbringer left the bar They're in a bar, so logically, they've been drinking. As rage turned onto the block in which he lived One does not live "in" a block, but rather, "on" one. This is probably not significant as I haven't seen any previous prepositions misused. Keep an eye out for such mistakes in the future though. he heard a grunt from behind him, he turned and leveling his gun, saw a garrote wire around Truthbringers neck, and a figure standing closely behind him. Okay, see what I meant earlier when I said this mafioso (it might not even be him since none of the characters have seen him kill anyone, which perhaps a clue unto itself) strikes the one who is most defenseless? Truthbringer was not armed whereas rage had a pistol. Garrote wire - it's an execution weapon that can be used to assassinate someone because "it can be completely silent". Already, this theme of someone dying silently (first fusiondf and now truthbringer) is developed. That's this guy's modus operandi. He darted to the side to get a better shot, only to feel something slam into the back of his left leg, dropping him to the ground, as he turned his head to the side, he caught a quick glimpse of a man swinging a long object, caving rage head in. This is a run-on sentence, but I'll ignore that. Something slams into his leg. Because it's not specified, we cannot assume that it's a knife. Actually, the fact that it ISN'T specified suggests that it's something odd, like an icicle or an ice pick (off the top of my head). Maybe even a syringe, but that might be stretching it. Okay, the other guy's a man (any girls left in this game?) who's particularly violent. He's swinging a "long object," which is another example of something left vague. This also indicates that's it's something strange (i.e. not a spear). I'm not a weapons expert so I don't know the name of the thing that comes to mind. Perhaps someone can help me out: it's a ball with spikes evenly spread out which is adjoined to a chain. A flail, maybe? (I'm intentionally looking for clues that link to qatol, and it's an extreme stretch, but this could be duck tape. It doesn't work though because it cannot knock anyone's head off, lol) Someone mentioned an arrow, which might work, but I'm under the impression that it's a lesses known weapon. If it does refer to an arrow, it's clearly blue_arrow (following the simple-Caller pattern clues). The three had each taken up guard at different points in the house to prevent being hit. Once again, the same theme keeps coming up. Although they make themselves feel safe, they clearly are not. Fakesteve gun pointed at the largest window, waiting for mafia to attempt to enter. Amber[light] was at the top of the stairs with a rifle aimed at the front door, and Infundibulum had a shotgun aimed at the backdoor. This time, all of them are armed just waiting for the mafia to come, yet they are still exposed. He saw Fakesteve’s computer on, which he knew had been turned off hours earlier, so he moved around the room. As he passed the desk he noticed a weird phrase on the screen. I have no idea what to make of this, but it's clearly significant. Perhaps this is someone with an addiction and has to be on the computer. Perhaps he's very computer literate. Okay, this is the "uncomprehensible phrase" guy. This is definitely a clue as it showed up in the Day 1 post. I'm going to read through everyone's profile and see what comes up. he noticed a figure under the desk, and a metal glint in his hand. Two silent shots later, amber[light] collapsed to the ground, and the man fired another shot into the body’s head for good measure. lol @ the guy hiding under the desk. The thing that needs to be pointed out is the overkill theme. Infundibulum heard a thud from upstairs, and slowly started to back up, He lets his guard down and becomes vulnerable. staring at him from the kitchen, he moved forward weapon in hand, and charged, and let a shot fire. He runs before he fires? I'm not sure what the point is, but perhaps he's already planning his escape? waving an object at Infundibulum, with a wicked smile on his face. Once again, he simply says "object" instead of specifying what that object is. Perhaps all of these "objects" are the same? Not sure what to make of the wicked smile but it stands up as a somewhat redundant details that isn't redundant in this case. This guy is a sadist. Anything that might allude to a sociopath would fit nicely as a clue. Fakesteve[tpr] never had a chance to retaliate; he turned towards the kitchen at the sound of shotgun fire , He felt an object glide through his shoulder and down to his heart, and something probe his jacket pockets before the void took him. WHOA. This is completely messed up. Something EXTREMELY sharp was used. I thought glass only because he used the word "glide," but it's clearly a sharper kind of sword. Anyone familiar with such a weapon? This guy's also a thief. Three blocks away, Ace was gathering his things, and then lifting a hood over his head, he left his house, in search of clues towards the mafia hidden in the town. As he left his house, he saw a man, eyes wide open, shakily level a machine gun. Moment’s later ace was dead. Caller says this points to him, and I see no reason not to listen to him. Showtime! and laxercannon headed for the gunshots, hoping to be able to save whomever they could. As they ran, they saw a man hiccupping and swaying moving towards them. Showtime moved to see if he was ok, and moved his hands to steady him, the next thing Showtime! knew, he had a knife stuck in his chest. Laxercannon turned, and drawing a knife of his own he moved to attack the man, only to stop dead, as an arrow pierced his neck. As laxercannon fell, he saw a man stepping out of a nearby alley. This seems to strongly point at quickstriker. Showtime gets a knife stuck in his body in less than a moment. And wow. There's the arrow. BUT. Whereas I mentioned it before as an unlikely clue pointing at blue_arrow, this seem to be the blatant sort of clues bloodycobbler is using this game. ------------- Based off of the two clues, two people obviously come immediately to mind: quickstriker and blue_arrow. I did my best to intentionally look for clues that point to qatol, but nothing really stood out. Because this is the most important day for us, WE NEED TO LYNCH A MAFIOSO. qatol, I understand that what you're going through is difficult, and I really sympathize with you. But at the same time, you still have a responsibility to this town and you can't keep making the wrong decisions. We've been more than understanding by voting for those who you asked us to, and although the clues don't seem to fit you, you're next in line unless you pin-point a mafia today. Going purely off of the clues, I'm inclined to vote for quickstriker for now. Right now, I'm waiting for someone who's good at behaviorally analyzing people to confirm whether quickstriker is mafia. Furthermore, has blue_arrow been speaking with anyone via PM? He's only made one post in the last week, so it's very much possible he's genuinely inactive (part of the reason I'm also voting for quickstriker) To conclude: I have a strange PM that might be worth sharing. I'm not quite sure what to make of it, but I'm keeping my word by posting it. Read from bottom up. + Show Spoiler + From: 3 Lions Subject: Re: mafia Date: 5/1/09 11:34 ok. sorry for being so inactive this game. I'll start posting in the thread I guess. I was much more active the last two games because I had good roles (godfather and detective) and because I wasn't as busy as I am now. Sorry if my inactivity this game is ruining it for you somehow, I'm not really sure what to do as a townie other than to vote for stuff. I'll think more about if I have time to play mafia when the next game comes around, but for now, I'll catch up on some reading and post if I feel necessary. ----------------------------------------- Original Message: y'know, I just clicked on your profile and apparently you HAVE been active. You've posted numerous times outside the mafia thread in the past week, but nothing inside the thread. Unless you give me a reason not to, meaning start posting in the thread, I will be FULLY convinced that you're mafia. ---- Furthermore, your logic makes no sense! Why would you want us to lynch you if you are a townie? Don't you know that we've gone through two days without substantial leads on anyone? Why would you WANT to waste it on you, a GREEN TOWNIE, as you say. EXTREMELY SUSPICIOUS ----------------------------------------- Original Message: I dunno, I had only read the part of the thread with Malongo's reasoning and decided to go along with it. TT Yeah, you should really be suspicious of me, but w/e, I'm a townie, you can lynch me if you really want to. ----------------------------------------- Original Message: Well, if you're inactive, then why not abstain from voting instead of just going with malongo. Why'd you vote for tricode? what's your reasoning? ----------------------------------------- 3 lions: oh. I've just been extremely busy this week, and I'm really a townie. I haven't been able to read much of the Mafia thread. sorry for being kinda inactive ----------------------------------------- me: mmmmm....I'm just wondering why you're not posting at all in the big mafia thread. You've been accused on two separate occasions, one of which was legitimate. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=91680¤tpage=7 And you never responded to either. It's extremely suspicious, and if you don't respond to this PM, I'm going to have to assume you're mafia and will bring this up on the forums. | ||
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JeeJee
Canada5652 Posts
day 2: small groups brutal slayings poked around mayo's office before making their way to scara's ruined house kneeling over body, pressing something into eyes knife thrower dude tripped forward bar/drinks brown envelope upbeat song burning sensation in lungs snickering at dying person + Show Spoiler [things jump out on me on day 3] + day 3: clock struck 2 hiding in bar grunt/garrote wire slam into left leg man swinging long object weird phrase metal glint in his hand/item (gun) waving an object/wicked smile slipped/killed himself black shroud stealing before killing with knife in the back wide open/shakily level (terrified/caller??) hiccuping/swaying(drunk?) knife in chest/arrow in neck, man step out of a nearby alley --------- + Show Spoiler [going through profiles from BC's…] + caller - phone stuff, terrified chinese people BWdero - insane, kaizo mario. i'd go with insanity for this guy lucaswoj - wishing/sadness tricode - 1/2/3, entertainer? fishball - a chinese phrase, babelfish'd to "soul symphony". fishes jeejee - im green fuck you malongo - english improvement? cafe (google)? warning/200? ver - mindset of owange? rol - man/legend/rebirth mandalor - street fighter? uppercut/martial arts sog - kidnapping L - deathnote stuff chuiu - pinky and the brain? hyperbola - mirrors? numbers? LTT - death and boats >_> incognito - unnoticed, politics/voting qatol - oops, duct tape/guns? dreamflower - rose, god punishment mikeymoo - randomness, cows? camlito - hate/love, asusmption? mynock - chinese phrase, random person? lordweird - strange/drunk 3 lions - foot massage, animals, bbq 3clipse - eclipse so no fek - lurk/hide? quickstriker - geass/quickness motbob - no frickin' clue. whatpulse? heavenonearth - uncertain/god etc blue arrow - blue/arrow 0cz3c - boat/mystery box. latin? incomprehensibleness maybe chaoser - chaos, ninjas zapling - mistrust/flowers/freedom? aznvaliance - illusion, war, courage monoxide - templar/monoxide ilovektf - #1/#2? t_co - logos, roses, philosphy scamp - lolcats, blocks, cheese, goodwill - goodwill, pirate/internet compx - sleep, tiny ccolcrimefigter - cool crime fighter ydg - courage mista - mist? revolution vivi57 - fighting, fashion, drink + Show Spoiler [conclusions] + who fits a good drunk profile? bars and hiccuping/swaying seems to point to that pretty strong. only lordweird that i can see. vivi's a weak one (try wiki'ing vivi, it's a drink, although non-alcoholic) incomprehensible phrase candidates come out to be mynock, 0cz3c and fishball. swinging a long object is a hard one. i can't even find references to weapons in general, aside from like blue arrow. clock struck 2? thats weird to have mentioned that. tricode? black shroud? darkness/eclipse? + Show Spoiler [the final list] + lordweird mynock/0cz3c/fishball bluearrow tricode 3clipse + Show Spoiler [a note from the author] + man who the hell brought up the idea that i do clue analysis in ANY of mafia games? im fucking terrible at it, and i've never done it . damn . | ||
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dreamflower
United States312 Posts
I would like to mention that I'm starting to change my mind about the weird phrase that amber[light] sees being related to the incomprehensible phrase on TV that Scaramanga saw. In light of my earlier posts about the possible pattern that BC's posts follow, in which the first and last paragraphs seem to indicate Mafia kills (because they show multiple deaths) while the middle ones talk about CK or vigilante kills (single deaths), I don't think they can be related. Only a Mafia member could have killed Scaramanga, whereas the posting format seems to suggest a contract killer or vigilante killed amber[light]. Thoughts on this, anyone? It's discouraging if true, because the two seem so perfectly linked. For Fakesteve, I was especially struck by the mention of the black shroud that enveloped him when he died. Whatever caused it, it gives the impression of darkness descending. This made me think of 3clipse, particularly as I see nothing else in his profile. I'm a little wary of automatically assuming that blue_arrow is linked to the arrow that killed Laxercannon, just because it seems a little too easy. I remember in the last game, the Mafia that killed people with arrows was actually someone else (Centric, I think) and not blue_arrow at all. Unfortunately, I don't have any alternate explanations. Perhaps the fact that the arrow came from behind him, constituting a sneak attack, could be a clue, as Laxercannon saw his killer stepping out from an alleyway only after he had already been hit. Perhaps someone with mentions of stealth in their profile might also fit this clue. | ||
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Qatol
United States3165 Posts
Inactive (but voted) 13. Mandalor 19. Hyperbola 25. Camlito 29. 3 Lions 37. Motbob 52. CompX 53. coolcrimefighter completely inactive , no excuses / haven’t voted or anything. 54. YDG 45. Aznvaliance 39. Blue_Arrow List of people with 1 one-liner post, but posted SOMETHING: 10. Ver - He endorsed me early and mentioned he wouldn't be around much until early this week. Has remained inactive despite this. 13. Mandalor - "just posting to say I'm not inactive. I'll try to catch up later." 19. Hyperbola - "Hello my fellow townies. Just letting y'all know that I am active I've just been rather busy lately." 47. Monoxide - “mikeymoo and I are going to be inactive for about 24 hours due to an upcoming final. Sorry” Has mentioned that he has further exams and has defended himself. No constructive posts. 50. scamp - Posted about his reasoning for voting, said he is too intimidated to post 51. goodwill - "cool, let's lynch quickstriker next" "I think our next lynch candidate should be one of the individuals in the detectives' circles, the chance of one family being able to hit 2 detectives together is one out of 3025." 53. coolcrimefighter - "well I've recently gotten addicted to altitude so thats why I've been inactive to make myself unshady here are some infoz about me I am a D protoss my name is coolcrimefighter I am not shady" "indeed" "I think you guys are reading into my name too much" 55. Mista - “Still taking my own sweet time ..” “Phew i have alot to catch up on" | ||
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Qatol
United States3165 Posts
As it has been mentioned, I HAVE been active behind the scenes. The current lynch people have all been talked about at least a little bit, but I feel it is more productive to introduce the people that I find pretty suspicious that have not been discussed much. Chuiu: Early in the game he had a small discussion about clues. He basically said we shouldn't worry about them until we have more batches. He gave a little input about things he thinks might be clues. He discussed the possibility that there might be 2 mafia families right after Bockit died. He accused JeeJee based off the Bockit PMs I posted. He tried to find a link to Bockit as a basis to clue analysis. Since that point he has posted basically nothing! Basically, Chuiu has totally vanished once people started making serious accusations. He pointed to JeeJee and then let the town start accusing each other without contributing at all. Camlito: I understand he wants to lay low. At the same time, other than voting, he has been SILENT. He knows the town has been floundering around looking for decent targets and yet he hasn't been trying to help at all? This seems odd to me. I expected him to use a mouth by the point. However, I haven't seen much resembling that. SemiOldGuy: I expected him to be far more active this game, both in the open and behind the scenes. Has he even been talking to anyone? Nobody I'm talking to has really heard much from him at all. Every day he pops up, says a few lines about the current plan and then totally disappears again. He isn't really involving himself in dialogues at least in the thread. He talked a lot about the CK early on, which makes me wonder if he is himself a CK. Finally, he starts talking about how a majority of abstainers causes a no-lynch. (I missed this when it was originally posted or I would have called it out sooner.) This is completely false! There is nothing in the rules about that. It looks to me like he was hoping to scare a mafia family out of abstaining in order to pick off a few/find a few for contracts. Other than that, he has done very little to point out new targets for the town. Completely out of character for him. Zapling: His only activity at all has been complaining and one strange clue connection attempt. Hasn't even TRIED to help the town. On April 28 2009 17:34 ZaplinG wrote: I vote ace to be lynched. On May 01 2009 14:34 ZaplinG wrote: This game is running in turtle time :X On May 03 2009 00:00 ZaplinG wrote: Thats a pretty sweet incomprehensible phrase you got there next to your name, Mynock... Mynock: He has been discussed earlier as being very quiet. That has changed a little recently. However, he is still not posting like I have expected. In previous games, he made long analytical posts. Everything was thought out. This time he keeps saying he has no time and is making non-committal posts. No strong accusations at all. Here is an example:+ Show Spoiler + On April 26 2009 23:17 Mynock wrote: Those are some good points, and cast quite a shadow over Monoxide. But obviously we first have to hear his version of the story. Suddenly he has started accusing myself and vivi57. This is completely against his character so far this game. Finally, his vote this cycle: On May 02 2009 22:19 Mynock wrote: I vote for Qatol. I don't even care if he's Mafia. He deserves this. What? Explain please. You will notice that my emphasis is on behavioral analysis. This is because my Clue analysis has been pathetic with respect to BC's clues in previous games (I couldn't get his clues right even after the game with the mafia list sitting in front of me). They are HARD. Please keep this in mind when you do clue analysis. Something like clumsiness = uff da is unlikely to be true because BC would never make a clue that simple. | ||
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Qatol
United States3165 Posts
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JeeJee
Canada5652 Posts
clue-based suspects that i consider pretty strong lordweird 3clipse behavior-based suspects that i consider pretty strong camlito mynock chuiu comments? | ||
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