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I realize it isn't much to go on at all, but I think Pika Chu's killer may be snet. snet's profile is empty so any clue against him would have to come from his name alone.
He saw someone walking up to him pull out a magnet which was pointed directly at the phone and was screwing with the hard drive.
Pika Chu's phone wasn't working . . . the network was being interfered with?
His opponent rolled him over and he saw the weapon, a trident, gleaming at him. Pika Chu tried to dodge the next attack but the weapon pierced his chest and killed him instantly.
In gladiator fights, there are certain weapon combinations, one such combination is the net and trident. I think this clue is better at pointing at snet than the phone "network" clue.
This clue set also made me think of Fishball. (His profile is also empty). Sadly, my primary trident association is from "The Little Mermaid". Ariel's dad had a trident in that movie. Little Mermaid of course is a very fish oriented movie. Also,
His opponent rolled him over and he saw the weapon, a trident, gleaming at him.
Fishball rolling him over? Ball rolling.
I like the clue set pointing better at snet, but could be at Fishball.
My apologies for inactivity, I was out of town a few days. I plan to analyze the clues going forward, but I'll assume you guys have done a good job on the day 1 and 2 clues.
I am happy with the three dead mafia.
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#I vote for Scooter and Humbug.
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On March 24 2009 13:12 Chuiu wrote: He saw someone walking up to him pull out a magnet which was pointed directly at the phone and was screwing with the hard drive.
I wonder who would pull out a magnet? I mean how can the mafia know that pika chu will use his phone
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##I vote for Scooter and 3 lions
dunno guys, those 3's gotta come from somewhere =/
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eh? those 3's can it be 0cz3c
lol just a thought
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#I vote for Scooter and Humbug.
I saw someone mention about the quill pen clue. First thing that came to my mind was composition, in particular music composition. I get this image of Beethoven lol.
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On March 24 2009 14:23 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2009 13:21 semioldguy wrote:Well... although the Medics didn't stop anyone this night... we did get a successful Vigi hit though. We have a double lynch today, let's make the most of it. Detective #3 has role-checked on Scooter and told me that he checkout out as Mafia! I say that is most assuredly one of our two lynches. Additionally the clue I checked for day one came back with no results. For reference I checked was: He reached out his hand as if to help Chuiu up, Chuiu grabbed his hand with a puzzled look on his face and began to get up. What does no results mean? You checked if it was a clue and it wasn't? Or Chuiu didn't return your PM? I checked if it was a clue and it wasn't.
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On March 24 2009 14:44 semioldguy wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2009 14:23 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:On March 24 2009 13:21 semioldguy wrote:Well... although the Medics didn't stop anyone this night... we did get a successful Vigi hit though. We have a double lynch today, let's make the most of it. Detective #3 has role-checked on Scooter and told me that he checkout out as Mafia! I say that is most assuredly one of our two lynches. Additionally the clue I checked for day one came back with no results. For reference I checked was: He reached out his hand as if to help Chuiu up, Chuiu grabbed his hand with a puzzled look on his face and began to get up. What does no results mean? You checked if it was a clue and it wasn't? Or Chuiu didn't return your PM? I checked if it was a clue and it wasn't. Guess that's one less strike against MrBabyHands and TranceStorm
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And whoever was linked to that being a scene from Gladiator
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I vote for Scooter and Humbug.
I finally get to vote for Humbug!
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Tricode's first post: "I put my vote with Cob. Don't douche this first game up for me man, or I'll go to Canada and hunt you down."
Also note I'm pretty sure this is the guy that said he relied on IMs from BloodyCobbler to keep up with the game.
They don't sound like IRL friends given Tricode's Canada comment so I wonder why he's trusting BC so much.
I also think he said that BC would stick up for him if anyone criticized him for being inactive.
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fishball can be a mafia, because of his quote 交響曲 is like some kind of music composition, nice one aZnvaLiaNce ![](/mirror/smilies/wink.gif)
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This is wayyy too obvious a connection to me... If Chuciu wanted to get some clues he could've easily looked at my posting history
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##I vote for Scooter and Humbug
You probably won't be able to convince me not to vote for Scooter, not that I think you all would want to do; but if other compelling evidence comes up for someone other than Humbug I may switch my vote from him to someone else depending on who the information comes from and who all and how many are in support of it. As it stands though I like the clues that point to Humbug best so far.
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Also I don't think all three Detectives should be using role-checks tonight since if we did that, none of us would have role checks for the following night (Night Four) if we would absolutely need one for any reason.
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I vote for Humbug and Scooter
since I am well convinced
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More posts by Tricode:
"I agree with Cob. I think it is to early on to be picking people with such little evidence. At least cob is actually analyzing and being realistic about things, while MrBabyhands is just picking out who ever he wants to be the first victim. Same goes with Pyrrhuoxia.
BC is the only one keeping his head straight about this and isn't going to take some poorly given evidence such as someone finally randomly posting, or some clues that are looked way to far into."
Tricode says BC is good and MBH and Pyrrhuloxia are bad.
Mandalor says BC and Pyrrhuloxia are good, semioldguy and MBH are bad.
Another post by Tricode:
"Hey, isn't night suppose to be over by now? I would ask cob normally but he said something about not being online today much. Does anyone know when morning is suppose to happen? I'm kinda confused."
Malongo posted this:
"-The three number. At first this made me think of 3 lions, but theres one more person: [r]tricode[/r], wich is quite more suspicious since his profile is empty (thus forcing the three reference). I havent read too much from him, but he voted BC and came up with this post On March 21 2009 08:16 Tricode wrote: Hey, isn't night suppose to be over by now? I would ask cob normally but he said something about not being online today much. Does anyone know when morning is suppose to happen? I'm kinda confused. this guy looks QUITE suspicious to me, im 80% sure hes mafia."
Malongo looks pretty good for this post in my book.
Tricode voted to kill fellow mafia Mandalor (note that Mandalor was as good as dead that this point):
"I am going to go with SOG's information since it holds merit. Unless someone can prove Mandalor is a miller or convince me otherwise.
I vote for Mandalor."
+ Show Spoiler +"I don't know what to say really. I was just being honest about everything. I don't post because I would just read and go on AIM and talk to cob.
Since I haven't been able to talk to him for the last two days. I was hoping you guys would help me. I didn't know when to vote until i saw others voting. I knew there was a clue in the morning and I am enjoying the game. Plus everyone said morning should be coming soon or something to that extent and it seemed like it was taking to long. So i was honestly confused.
I am not certain about the clues to much. I don't want to ruin my first game and have people getting mad at me for pointing fingers at people who are innocent and get them killed though I doubt people would listen to me.
If this helps in my defense, Cob knows I am new at this game and can vouch for my claims about being new and my behavior.
But I will admit you are kinda half right about me posting it so I don't look inactive (mind you I still posted cause I wanted answers and help). I want my first game to be as fun as I can make it. I am having fun reading what you guys are saying. I do wish I can help more, but until I learn this game a bit better and understand how the clues are presented, I don't want to be completely inactive where I get blamed like this, but I don't know how I can contribute. I'm sorry about that."
Pretty weird post. If BC is mafia would Tricode really be a bad enough noob to post something like this? Maybe another mafia coached him to say this to make BC look bad? Though BC would have probably said something if the conversations didn't happen. BC better cough up some details about these conversations or he's gonna be lighting up as red as Rudolph.
Another tricode post, reponding to my post saying we still can't trust semioldguy 100% / send him roles:
+ Show Spoiler +Uhm, I might be going out of a limb here, if he could be mafia, why would he get two of his mafia members killed? Sounds kinda unreasonable not to trust him =\.
Malongo, why rolecheck babyhands or any of those others? I think I am understanding the game better and if i understand it right, your asking for SoG to waste a rolecheck(s)? Also i posted my reasons of why i asked on page 47.
I think you are kinda making a lot of demands already and I would prefer you giving more evidence. Look at BC's analysis can you give something more like that. All you have given is some words you spotted and looking any way to accuse someone.
Some more of his posts for easy reference:
+ Show Spoiler +On March 23 2009 14:40 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: Ehh well do what you want with semioldguy I am actually very convinced that he is not mafia for yet another reason after my new analysis of the election, which I will post shortly.
Then why did you just tell us not to trust him?
+ Show Spoiler +On March 23 2009 14:56 malongo wrote: Hide nested quote - On March 23 2009 14:35 Tricode wrote: Malongo, why rolecheck babyhands or any of those others? I think I am understanding the game better and if i understand it right, your asking for SoG to waste a rolecheck(s)? Also i posted my reasons of why i asked on page 47.
I think you are kinda making a lot of demands already and I would prefer you giving more evidence. Look at BC's analysis can you give something more like that. All you have given is some words you spotted and looking any way to accuse someone.
Actually i remade my statement and didnt call for the rolecheck on Mrbabyhands. Maybe you are understanding the game better (LOL) but remember that not all dts can rolecheck now because rolechecks cant be consecutive. Im not making a demand (how could i demand somehing?) im proposing clues to the dts to use the cluechecks (they have to use them) so im guessing you dont understand the game better . And for my "random words" maybe you can give us more to work? have you proposed something? and for the last just remember how "sharp" conducted to ra.xor last game, my clue proposal may look simple yet they are all possible. A last note to motbob: If you are inocent why do you fear a cluecheck? im missing something? if someone made a call for a cluecheck like that for me id try to suggest a better target instead of your answer. I also noted that your vote came in quite late when the lynch was decided. Again you and tricode posts dont add much but rather look like mafia.
I said 'and others', you changed it from babyhands to some others.
You don't have to be a jerk about me still not understanding the game (by loling me), instead of actually trying to help me understand the game better to be more helpful, you do the opposite. To add, I am still trying to learn the game and how clues work. I don't know what kinda work you want me to put in since everyone else has a better understanding in what to look for.
Sorry about my choice of word about demand though, but you still are making requests with out any reason and I just want to understand why.
Also you can't ask me to remember something i was never there for. Though I would appreciate if you can tell me the pages (links) if you think it will help me be more useful to the game.
Lastly what do you mean my posts don't add much? If anything I am just more confused. On March 24 2009 10:06 MrBabyHands wrote: Based on the last day's clues (and behavior for some) I have 5 top mafia suspects. Just in case i dont survive the night, let me show you thems.
I present, MrBabyHands's Furious Five:
tricode : malongo noticed the repeating theme of "3" in the clues. tricode also made a suspicious post (that malongo also noticed). but his response to the idea that he might be a suspect is what convinced me... see below
I asked tricode what he thought about malongo bringing up his name as a suspect. this was his response:
Show nested quote + On March 22 2009 03:25 Tricode wrote: I don't know what to say really. I was just being honest about everything. I don't post because I would just read and go on AIM and talk to cob.
Since I haven't been able to talk to him for the last two days. I was hoping you guys would help me. I didn't know when to vote until i saw others voting. I knew there was a clue in the morning and I am enjoying the game. Plus everyone said morning should be coming soon or something to that extent and it seemed like it was taking to long. So i was honestly confused.
I am not certain about the clues to much. I don't want to ruin my first game and have people getting mad at me for pointing fingers at people who are innocent and get them killed though I doubt people would listen to me.
If this helps in my defense, Cob knows I am new at this game and can vouch for my claims about being new and my behavior.
But I will admit you are kinda half right about me posting it so I don't look inactive (mind you I still posted cause I wanted answers and help). I want my first game to be as fun as I can make it. I am having fun reading what you guys are saying. I do wish I can help more, but until I learn this game a bit better and understand how the clues are presented, I don't want to be completely inactive where I get blamed like this, but I don't know how I can contribute. I'm sorry about that.
the ol "puppy dog eyes" technique
"i'm new" "i was hoping someone could help me" "its my first time, i just want to have fun" "i dont want people to be mad at me"
this could verywell be his first time. but that doesnt mean he's not red.
i think he presented too many explanations and they were all around a common theme (first timer, new to the game, dont wanna mess up, etc). People do this when they have something to hide. I feel like most innocent new players are more likely to downplay their inexperience so as not to appear as a burden. Tricode did the opposite. I also feel like he's overcompensating for his inactivity, again posting lots of extraneous information (who is cob anyway) and appealing to our emotions he offers a humble apology at the end.
His only defense was "i'm new. sorry about that." And he didnt address the clues at all, even tho they were a main part in his suspicion.
if i wasnt sure he was mafia before, i am certainly more convinced now.
(edited for a few typos)
First, Cob is BloodyCobbler, the guy who told me to hop onto this game with the information "It's fun". You know the sheriff of the game.
Second, the way i acted is how i am. But I do understand your suspension about me, it's very reasonable, but then again there is a suspicion of almost everyone being mafia and it would be difficult for many of us to prove our innocence.
Third as far as my thoughts for the clues, I think malongo is just looking to deep into that word. What else could have chiuiu have used in some of those other cases? The number three wasn't used to reference any mafia but events in the second morning clues.
Actually that number had nothing to do with any mafia member now that i looked at his thing again.
Let's add there is also the number 1 and 2 also. So are you going to look for anyone with those numbers?
Your cases against me is weak other then the percent chance that any of us can be mafia including you. I could make the claim that you two try very hard to pick other people but when some others get suspicious of you, you just ignore it and point fingers at others.
EDITED: MrBabyHands What if i say I find that it is weird that after you fail the election you seem to disappear. After making accusations against people you seem to disappear for a bit again.
People claim that most likely that a mafia member tried to run for the election and if i recall correctly you made the claim that everyone who was running was innocent (correct me if I am wrong)
Those are my thoughts, but I want more evidence before making more claims. That's why I want to play it a bit safe and wait for more clues, because I am not going to run around pointing fingers at every little thing I think could be a clue, that's called a Red Scare tactic. It might work, but when you get it wrong, you will lynch a lot of innocents. Last edit: 2009-03-24 11:02:08 <- Edit on this one...
So that makes two mafia getting into heated discussions with MrBabyHands and getting burned for it. If MBH is blue/green he's definitely earned the right to post the Afro Samurai pic. I hope if I die before the end of the game that someone else goes through all of the posts red players have made in order to make posts like this one. They'll probably start planting false stuff (if they haven't already) but if they waste too much time helping good guys to look good later instead of trying to influence things the wrong way they will lose anyway.
EDIT: had to fix some wonky spoiler tag issues
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Snet the one with the magnet? can he be a mafia? I know that is a really weak clue on Snet though.
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##I vote for Scooter and Humbug
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Ok first things first, Pyrr, I love the work you're doing but can you please use quote tags instead of copy pasting from the thread? I can't work out who's saying what sometimes ![](/mirror/smilies/puh2.gif)
Secondly, They're ripping through that list of 12 eh? Feeling a little worried now >_>
Thirdly, grats to the vigi who hit tricode.
And finally:
## I vote for scooter and humbug
I'm not convinced by any means that rice isn't mafia, but I'm happy to go with the consensus on today's vote.
Tricode's posts really don't make bloodycobbler look very good. We can't forget that it's very very very likely one of bloodycobbler, semioldguy, mrbabyhands or pyrr is mafia. The benefits of getting into the sheriff or mayor position are just too good for a mafia player for them to ignore it because of the spotlight effect.
EDIT: Reworded a sentence.
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