EPT[GG] Team Liquid Mafia - Resurrection
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Mynock
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 Or what if the Mafia thinks the same? lol Maybe we should indeed save our first lynch and try to go after the clues, so Scaramanga would be a good bet. | ||
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I won't plead, I won't provide you with any counter-arguments, no clues to analyze, I have 0 time for that ATM. Just stick to logic and do the following: regardless of who gets lynched, check those who started the vote train on me, and suspect those who join in at the very end. Those of you who are not sure they want to lynch me, vote for someone else. If there is any mafia on the train, they will either want to jump on at the very end if they see the difference isn't high, or they will abandon ship at the last moment to spread themselves out evenly. Those who did vote for me already, STAY there. Everybody else, vote for the prime suspects, the 2/4. It will help with further behaviour analysis. As always, think it through, and act on logic. Oh, and for christ's sake, you can trust Ace for now, it's pretty obvious. | ||
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Spike seemed innocent, but he sacrificed himself for the greater cause. Vigis should now kill Fishball or Capek. If neither of them is mafia, the blame shifts to Ace. Until then, the plan is rather clear. | ||
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Even if Caller dies, it puts no blame on Ace at all. If Caller dies it's his and only his fault. But again, it's all good, since we have the mafia guessing, while providing the medics with good, valid targets to defend. It's in the favour of Town. Also, if either Fishball and/or Capek die tonight and spill red blood, then Ace is proven, and even if you choose to think he isn't, it's still good for the Town. In case neither Fishball, nor Capek turn out to be red, THEN Ace is under suspicion. | ||
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On December 18 2008 10:35 Fishball wrote: Since Capek already posted his role, and lets all assume he doesn't have perfect Photoshop skills, all I can say from my point of view is, the 2/4 Mafia list is a partial false lead. Why partial? Attackzerg could still be Mafia, but that is not the point. The point is, someone is giving out false information. But what about my role? Hit me tonight, you'll find out. I actually really meant it the whole time. I never thought Spike was Mafia. His find regarding Mynock was pretty solid. Mynock never brought up any solid defense regarding the clues, but instead brought up the usual "I'm busy, therefore inactive" excuse, and further persuaded everyone else to lynch Spike first. Now one of his latest post was to again, persuade the flow to have vigilantes hit me and Capek. Everything was based on the 2/4 (now 2/3) list. What if the list is false? That means the Mafia will be able to get 2 more townies killed, without using their own killing power, and also waste the vigilantes killing power. Makes sense? Of course, all that I've mentioned above would have to be true in order for my theory to be right. There is a reason why I ask vigilantes to hit me. Don't worry about my well being.  What you say makes no sense from the Mafia perspective tho. Why would they sacrifice Caller too then? It is now Caller who made the Call (heheh) about the Folca list. Couldn't they have just used Ace as their spokestube? No, they have to sacrifice Ace, Ver, Caller, all to get through to the Town and kill a couple random greens, maybe wasting a vigi kill. What? | ||
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Fishball and Capek put on a hilarious show for us, my favourites are these two parts: Fishball to Capek: "Reading comprehension?! Now I'm starting to hate you." -> these two are sworn enemies you guys, in no way aligned to each other! [/sarcasm] And the Capek evergreen: "And no I do not have 1337 photoshop skills." Hahaha. | ||
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Really gj, care to stop already? | ||
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Don't give up anybody, we're absolutely in the game yet. | ||
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On December 23 2008 00:45 Amber[LighT] wrote: No. This is a gamble, but we didn't want the game to come to this. I am the Mad Hatter. I was fake role claiming as the vigilante hoping that they would direct their attention towards me last night. They did not do so. In order for us to win we have to hope the two people I have bombs on will take out mafia. What does this mean? I am asking everybody to vote for me to lynch today. I just want to let everyone know who I deceived I am terribly sorry I typically would not do something so dishonest and I felt bad leaving some of you in the dark. The goal was that whether Kdog was mafia or not we still gained valuable knowledge, but the idea was that they would kill me during the night because of my role claim. This was so the real vigilante would be safe (which he was). We were also hoping that the vigilante would take out a mafia, but it seems like the guys behind the scenes made two mistakes in the last day. That is fine, we can still win. I knew it was going to come down to the lynching and though I am a townie, I am doing this for the better of the town. I ask that you vote to lynch Amber[LighT] today, and hopefully this will even out the playing field! LOL, now this sounds like a plan! Hahaha! If both of them are Mafia, and the Town lynches another Mafia tomorrow, the scum will be down to a KP of 2! With that, it will only be a matter of time till Town wins, because remember, all the vets are still alive, which means an additional 6-7 lives for Town. Don't think of giving up, and be suspicious about those who say that we should (*cough* BloodyCobbler*cough*)! | ||
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On December 24 2008 00:17 Amber[LighT] wrote: Guys in order to win we still need to do some clue analysis. Please note that amaterasu has now killed people with a sign twice and we need some analysis on that! (day 4 killed with a billboard, day 5 with a movie sign) I think it might be Artanis[Xp]. His signature says: "http://www.last.fm/user/ArtanisXp/ - My last.fm!", which is an advertisement to his site. Just like a billboard or a movie sign are. Edit: colouring. | ||
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From his profile: Fear is the strongest driving force in competition. Not fear of one's opponent, but of the skill and high standard he represents; fear, too, of not acquitting oneself well. In the achievement of higher performances, of beating formidable rivals, the athlete defeats fear and conquers himself. -Franz Stampfl And from his quote: It brings tears of joy to my eyes to see the tears of angst in theirs. Put the two together, you get one quote about fear, one about contempt. In clues about Camulous we see: Across town, Heros)pink and Tensai176 were heading home from work, when then saw Chronus attacking Camulous. They hurried closer to see what was going on, which at that point had Camulous backed into a corner which Chronus about to deliver the final blow. Camulous’ eyes went from fear to contempt however, and surged forward past Chronus and slamming into Heros)pink, then quickly slicing his throat. I thought he was linked to daggers, hence I killed MidnightGladius tonight (yes, I'm the Vigi), but I believe these clues might just fit better. It's worth investigating JeeJee methinks. | ||
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There are several clues to someone using a liquid in order to kill opponents: Bloodyc0bbler took a stepback then dropped to his knees as a giant volt of electicity ran through his body. One figure moved closer, “goodbye mayor” the figure threw a liquid into his face, and then the world went black Yu threw funkie quickly at the barrel then threw a knife slamming into the side of it, releasing a searing liquid onto the sprawled man. Which makes me believe that malongo might be our man here. Either that, or the obvious choice of venomo45, or decafchicken again... | ||
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ydg artanis[xp] kuja900 DecafChicken 4/5 are Mafia. Who's the odd one out? I don't really care, as all can be linked to some clues (even ydg is a name of an advertising company, which can be linked to billboards and signs), but we should absolutely start from here. Other than that, investigate people that are NOT on this list or the ShadowDrgn list, and try to link then to clues. Mafia KP is soon to be only 2, then Town wins. Also: Mynock Folca Nevake Shadowdrgn We knew ShadowDrgn is Kali from a few days ago, but we left him alive specifically so that the Mafia doesn't target me before I use up all my hits, because our clues somewhat coincided. The plan obviously worked. Once Shadow is dead, you know the other three are innocent. So what we have to do this night is look for clues to those who are NOT on the 4/5 list, and every day lynch one of those who remain on the 4/5 list. At the end, analyze the remaining clues and win. I will be the spokesperson for the remaining DT after Amber dies, btw. | ||
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I too was absolutely sure ShadowDrgn was Mafia. Now we still have a 1/2 on that list then. Try linking any clues to either Folca or Nevake. If you have any doubts as to why I am the vigi, read the clues, it always says something about sucking out electricity. | ||
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Original 5/10 list: malongo ydg kdog3683 meegrean artanis[xp] amber[light] kuja900 Ver MidnightGladius DecafChicken Updated list: malongo ydg artanis[xp] kuja900 THREE of the four are Mafia. Also: Folca Nevake ONE of the two is Mafia. And I'm not going to go by clues anymore, cause I obviously can't see any logic in them at all :p I even needed help finding out my own, so... I'll just feed the Town info about any other Mafias as I get it myself. | ||
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On December 24 2008 08:35 Amber[LighT] wrote: Well at least we got one mafia! Good Luck town in the graveyard I go It was a gj from your part We're equal with killing 1 Mafia & 1 silent Townie this game  I so wanted to say "BOOM BABY" after today tho, lol... | ||
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I have no idea what to make of these clues now tho. For starter, just let's stick to the lists we have, and then see what we can work out with any new clues. | ||
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Wow. You really aren't a smart one, lol. | ||
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This means that even if you think I already know your role, still send it. Thank you and Merry Christmas everybody . | ||
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And nevake, don't forget that you're a main suspect as well. | ||
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So vote for kuja900. | ||
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Also, if someone is going as far as calling his fellow players in a FRIENDLY game of Mafia "dumb cockbags", especially after the game is over... That really speaks volumes of the person. It also speaks volumes about how the game was played out. People like kuja really fell in their role. If only they would ever post it would rat them out immediately, because people like that (AttackZerg, kuja, etc...) would shine trough like big bulbs of red, if ONLY they were actually required to post. But they aren't. So all the Mafia had to do (and what they were doing) is come to this thread every so often (one of them is enough in fact), choose a couple targets, send in the hits, relax for 3 more days. While the Town has to suffer the full effect of inactivity. Also, the Town had this WON before the mass vote switching. But BC wanted it over with (has been since some 3 nights already), and even after we said it won't go anywhere if this inactivity continues, instead of an answer like "yes, let's switch inactive Townies" or "no, I won't switch inactive Townies" he just closed the vote with like 4 Townies voting total. 5 Mafias come and sway the vote. And Town's victory is taken away. Why do I say Town's victory was taken away? Because we even knew both malongo and Artanis were mafia. I was to lynch malongo after kuja, and once he turned out to be silencer, we would know that the remaining 2 on that list were also Mafia, since we knew the silencer was not even on that role-check list before. Pitching malongo vs Artanis was another dumb move by mafia which exposed both of them. Here's proof (a PM from me to LTT): Yes, you're correct on both those accounts. In fact, I always thought both of them are probably mafia... :/ ----------------------------------------- Original Message: He's arguing that Malongo is the silencer. This is a terrible, terrible argument if you stop to think about it. The list check came before the silencer was mafia. If we were to believe Artanis, that would make the list 100% Mafia, which would mean Artanis himself was Mafia... -___- I don't think he thought that one through at all. Mafia made some dumb moves this game (a'la AZ), but they still won't lose, because they are not palying against people, they are playing against a list of inactive nicknames. I'm not really good at clue analysis, but I'm damn sure NONE of those clues ever helped the Town either. Not a single one. Even kuja couldn't find himself there. Neither could I find myself tbh. And the bottom line, I'm not playing another Mafia game without enforced activity. I could of course do it like most people here, namely sign-up, wait to see if I'm Mafia, and if I'm not, go take a shit on the whole thing, but I don't feel like being such an ass. FFS, even after I told all the vets to send me in their roles, there was one guy who NEVER EVER DID. He was a blue and he still didn't give a crap about this game. Really, who was the last vet?? The key to the victory for Town at the end, when every life counts. We knew about Ace, 0cz, and...?? | ||
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But yeah, a mynock eats electricity, so there is a definite link there of course, but the problem is, with clues, you have to make sure they don't connect to like 12 people on the list at the same time, so it's just not as easy as linking a person to SOMETHING, you have to link a person to SOMETHING while considering EVERYBODY else as well. That's why it's hard to make clues imo, and that's why this game virtually no clue was connected to the proper person at all. But whatever, we all improve with time, I think for your first ever attempt, this game definitely deserves praise, as it was fun. Inactives: YES, ban those who only register to check if they can get Mafia. I bet you a 100 bucks people like kuja or AZ would just meld into the inactive Town had they not gotten a Mafia role, they're just that kind of general category. They play it not for the game, but for some thrill of being a bad guy. As if getting a Mafia role in a Mafia GAME actually constitutes that. This is not what the game is about, so you should be VERY CLEAR on that before you start in it in the first place. And as for the whole silencer thing: WTF? How comes the silencer came up on the Mafia role check then? Shouldn't the silencer show up as green before recruited? And the list was made BEFORE malongo was recruited afaik. | ||
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On December 28 2008 03:13 malongo wrote: It was done AFTER, in fact i wanted it to be delayed so i passed as a townie but never happened. Thats why you misread the "both are mafia" argument from LTT. Artanis was green you should have lost a lynch and a townie. Artanis: sorry to use you as both knew you were the townie and malongo the mafia. But as you see this was working very well for us... haha. Doen't matter. On sheer numbers it would have been an exciting game at the end. But not by culling it in mid-air, and not with all the inactives. | ||
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