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Folca
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
2235 Posts
October 25 2008 07:12 GMT
#33
right here please
Dea : one time when he was playing vs the comps he asked me "how do I make that flying unit that makes the other stuff invisible" and I reply "ur playing terran zomg"
Folca
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
2235 Posts
November 01 2008 06:24 GMT
#245
You guys should all wait until morning, and then start pointing fingers, haha
Dea : one time when he was playing vs the comps he asked me "how do I make that flying unit that makes the other stuff invisible" and I reply "ur playing terran zomg"
Folca
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
2235 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-02 19:59:08
November 02 2008 19:57 GMT
#426
The only thing thats popping up my head in this clues right now is the coffee and decaf
I think Chuiu is trying to make us imply that it was decaf
Just like the Romantic clue from the last mafia game..
:edit: Definently still reading a lot of the things that are already said since day 1, real nice
Really leaning towards what Ace is saying, although I dont understand half of what he did say...
Dea : one time when he was playing vs the comps he asked me "how do I make that flying unit that makes the other stuff invisible" and I reply "ur playing terran zomg"
Folca
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
2235 Posts
November 03 2008 03:17 GMT
#485
"Embrace the release that death brings you"
I dont know why, but I having a hunch that this should be a very big clue on whose the mafia, really
Dea : one time when he was playing vs the comps he asked me "how do I make that flying unit that makes the other stuff invisible" and I reply "ur playing terran zomg"
Folca
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
2235 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-03 03:30:19
November 03 2008 03:28 GMT
#486
Ok, just asked Chuiu if this was possible, and its not against the rules, so here it fucking goes
Im a detective, now dont stop reading this shit
I just pmed chuiu my ability to see of Ace is the mafia
Answer : Yes
Now, Im not ganna keep this hiding, because Ace is a huge influence in this game, and im not ganna risk getting lynched by next morning to spit out the information
Yes Ace could actually help the townies by targetting mafias, but im not ganna risk my death by next morning, so here it goes
Now just like Ace said, I'll prove myself by sacraficing myself to see that im the detective
If I am detective like I said, Take out Ace Townies, Special Roles, good luck killing the rest of the mafia
Dea : one time when he was playing vs the comps he asked me "how do I make that flying unit that makes the other stuff invisible" and I reply "ur playing terran zomg"
Folca
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
2235 Posts
November 03 2008 03:32 GMT
#488
Since my last post, I just thought of something else
Medics dont even try to save me, until suicide bomber kills himself already..
Dont risk yourselfs saving me, because I already completed my task of finding a huge influence of this drastic game
Hope killing Ace not only screws the Mafia drastically, but their strategies as well
Dea : one time when he was playing vs the comps he asked me "how do I make that flying unit that makes the other stuff invisible" and I reply "ur playing terran zomg"
Folca
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
2235 Posts
November 03 2008 03:34 GMT
#491
If the townies follow what you're strategies has proclaimed, you shouldnt even be hiding your face, haha
Dea : one time when he was playing vs the comps he asked me "how do I make that flying unit that makes the other stuff invisible" and I reply "ur playing terran zomg"
Folca
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
2235 Posts
November 03 2008 03:36 GMT
#493
On November 03 2008 12:35 Ace wrote:
and what do you mean "if you're a detective?"

at least sound sure of yourself

## I vote to lynch Folca



## I vote to lynch myself
Forgot to say that, and Ace, you didnt understand what i meant,
If im a detective LIKE I SAID, then take Ace out
Day 1 and the game already got so interesting..
Dea : one time when he was playing vs the comps he asked me "how do I make that flying unit that makes the other stuff invisible" and I reply "ur playing terran zomg"
Folca
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
2235 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-03 03:43:44
November 03 2008 03:40 GMT
#498
I can use two abilities in one day?
:edit:
Empyrean Its not worth saving me anymore, I already completed my role of screwing up the Mafia pretty much really bad, Either Mafia or Suicide bomber is obviously going to kill me
Medics dont waste your time killing me err saving me
Dea : one time when he was playing vs the comps he asked me "how do I make that flying unit that makes the other stuff invisible" and I reply "ur playing terran zomg"
Folca
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
2235 Posts
November 03 2008 03:48 GMT
#504
Just Found another awesomeness clue
Chuiu took a look over at the man ready to pull the switch. "Embrace the release that death brings you"

MidnightGladius's Signature
"It's time to acknowledge the inevitable. Stifle your pride and embrace the glory of change." - Volrath Ishnikar, the Faithless General
Chuiu really doesnt have much to clue him that hes mafia, because of his low post count and really has no blogs, or identification, which Chuiu really cant identify but to use his quote, easily found..

Think about this guys, Ace is a huge major leader, that I accused, minutes later MidnightGladius posts to lynch me. They probably all have each other's aim/msn talking right now. Ace is pissed he just got mafia-founded out of the game adn told the other guy to lynch me.
Guys, The reason I chose Ace if he was to be Mafia, Townie, or Special Role.. Was to specifically see if he was trying to fuck us all over, and I have found the answer... He is the mafia... There is corruption in his strategies, look over them, and analyze them very carefully..
Dea : one time when he was playing vs the comps he asked me "how do I make that flying unit that makes the other stuff invisible" and I reply "ur playing terran zomg"
Folca
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
2235 Posts
November 03 2008 03:55 GMT
#509
I was just reading through Day 1 again, and went through it very thoroughly, and saw the people that were voting to lynch me, and his signiture was very intriguing haha, and plus, read all of my posts above of how that could be a huge clue into Midnight Gladius
Also, which brings back to you
Why do you care for Midnight Gladius so much? Rofl interesting yes?
For your second question I am completely wrong, haha
Townies keep Ace's strategies now,
Dea : one time when he was playing vs the comps he asked me "how do I make that flying unit that makes the other stuff invisible" and I reply "ur playing terran zomg"
Folca
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
2235 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-03 04:00:07
November 03 2008 03:57 GMT
#511
I didnt necessarily call you out for following my instructions.., I was just wandering through your signitures and verify as much people as I can because Im obviously going to die early in this game, if not this night
:Edit:
I just noticed how much views went up since the past 5 minutes, Holy shit this game is heating up
Dea : one time when he was playing vs the comps he asked me "how do I make that flying unit that makes the other stuff invisible" and I reply "ur playing terran zomg"
Folca
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
2235 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-03 04:12:01
November 03 2008 04:02 GMT
#514
I give Chuiu very much respect for his clue writing, however I don't think you can consider a your sig and a video of a Bill O'Reilly rap "more than enough" usable information I found your resposne time to my sacrifice also interesting, due to the fact that mafia knows each other and several minutes after I post this, you are here voting me. I am not saying you are 100% mafia, but there are some clues and I think it's worth a DT checking out.

If I live to next round, I will make sure to do that.

:edit:
Going to sleep in about 40 minutes, please give your input to me as much as you can, as I will know whose already read this.. Well actually I just want to see everyone seeing Folca as number 1 Drama starter in Day 1
Dea : one time when he was playing vs the comps he asked me "how do I make that flying unit that makes the other stuff invisible" and I reply "ur playing terran zomg"
Folca
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
2235 Posts
November 03 2008 04:28 GMT
#518
Ace is voting to lynch himself?
Dea : one time when he was playing vs the comps he asked me "how do I make that flying unit that makes the other stuff invisible" and I reply "ur playing terran zomg"
Folca
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
2235 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-03 04:41:05
November 03 2008 04:38 GMT
#523
So I have condemned myself, so I am going to express every thought I have had so far from everything I have read and took in. I am going to separate facts from thoughts.

Fact: Ace is Mafia
Fact: I am Detective

Thought: The link between MidnightGladius's Sig and some of the clues. Given the fact Chu doens't have much to work with in regards to his longevity to the site it seems like a decent clue, one we should keep in mind. Also the quickness of his response intrigues me as well (No clue pun intended) If the Mafia all know eachother, chances are they have eachother on friendslists so they can conspire together and talk. What I did probably make Ace mention something to MidnightGladius which would of made Midnight check out the thread. I don't think we have THAT much to convict him based off of that. However as I said before, If I somehow lived to the next round, my next check would be on MidnightGladius without a doubt. So just keep that in mind other DT/Jack's

Thought: Another thing I think should be taken into consideration is this:
"We can trust no mayor, no governor, no authority this day or the next. We must unite to take care of the problem ourselves. Mafia if you hear me then tremble because we are united in our cause and will strike with cruel precision to drive you from our town."


He names 2 roles, and then what I believe to be a hint, Authority, who in this game has authority that isn't a role in the game? I take this as a hint towards either FakeSteve, or Plexa. Who are both admins. Once again this is just my final thoughts which I feel I should express. I am tired and didn't do much referencing and researching into either of them, but I suggest considering and remembering that little hint for the future. I would of looked into them but I have to sleep in a half hour and quite frankly, it is too early in the game and not enough clues to look trhough people who have established themselves as well as FakeSteve and Plexa have.

Good luck all stick it to the mafia :D

:edit:
PS : mSLeGenD says Hi
Dea : one time when he was playing vs the comps he asked me "how do I make that flying unit that makes the other stuff invisible" and I reply "ur playing terran zomg"
Folca
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
2235 Posts
November 03 2008 13:09 GMT
#621
I was intending to make my last post to go out with a bang, and be done posting. But Honestly, that's not going to do it. This game seems to be moving fast since I just called out 2-4 people in the first night. This just got extremely interesting.

Alventenie, you are a genius and just gave me a way to prove my DT without being lynched. At least by the townies. That idea is incredible.

Right now I have put the mafia in a very bad situation. One of there best players has been called out. and I have already confessed that if I somehow live, my next suspicion is going to be on Midnight. He seems very likely to me. The mafia has to get me, they have no choice. They have been forced into a really terrible predicament. Look at it this way.

If the town wins no matter what here if they play it right and logical. If I am indeed telling the truth. The mafia has to kill me tonight, or the next day there is an extremely good chance I will expose another one of them. If I die tonight, Ace dies tomorrow.

If instead of voting me or ace, we vote DecafChicken who a lot of people seem to suspect. We might lynch a townie, or we might get a mafia. Keep in mind if we do that. the mafia HAS to lynch me. They have really no choice. So we vote decaf, I die no matter what. Since if the town kills me a die, if the town kills decaf, both me and decaf die. Either way ace gets exposed.

The mafia has NO choice but to try to cut it's losses here and try to get the town to lynch me first. No matter what happens, ace is gone. They must try to choose how they can minimize the damage since Ace was such a huge player for them.

Now to bring the fight to Ace, I admit I was wrong before when I said your theories were wrong and we just had to disprove them. However now you are panicking and have just slipped up horribly. After reading your post here, I couldn't help but respond at least one more time.

as of now, you want to vote on the person that gives us the most info which is Folca.
This follows no logic here Ace and you know it. See? He is already trying to cut there losses by having you kill me first. It has been explained several times why the town killing me doesn't benefit it. The town not killing me gives them way more knowledge if I live another round. Ace is working against us.

If decaf flips red - great we have mafia.
If he doesn't, we move on to Night1/Day2 down a townie with no obvious information

If we kill Decaf and he is a townie then we gain no information that is true. We check off some clues. However neither me or you will live to the next night. As I said, the Mafia has to have me dead and if for some reason they DO NOT kill me, The town will kill me the next night. But by then I will be able to reveal another clue, another member of the mafia hopefully.

In the Ideal situation. Decaf is mafia tonight and we lynch him. The mafia doesn't kill me (which doesn't make sense) I get to reveal another name. You all kill me, see Hopefully 2 Mafia members in Ace and Midnight. In a matter of 2 days we manage to kill 3/10 mafia. Cutting there killing power and gaining an edge.

What I believe will happen is we lynch decaf he is mafia, the mafia kills me revealing ace then me and ace are down and theres plenty of suspicion on other players courtesy of my sacrifice.

The last thing
One situation is an ABSOLUTE benefit for the town while the other is probable and based on an incomplete clue. I say we lynch Folca and stick with it.


Lynching me only benefits the town if somehow I am alive on day 2. Where killing me will either A. Kill a mafia (being me) or B. Kill me, show that Ace (fact) is a mafia, and hopefully by then I will have found out for fact that Midnight is indeed also mafia.

Killing me today doesn't benefit the Town, it benefits the Mafia.
Also your attempt to dissuade us from killing decaf is also convincing me even MORE that decaf is indeed another mafia and that you are trying to save your own.

Also, that damn list is going to own us in the end if everyone sticks to voting me or ace.


Note: If Alventenie turns out to be mafia at some point in this game, all I'm going to say is WOW, I got worked. but the logic in what he said is sound, so I can't see him being a mafia. You seem really good at this game and for gods sake I hope you are on our side. If we lynch decaf and he IS mafia, we should have a paramedic protect Alventenie, I can't see the mafia throwing away 2 people in order to get 1 person on our inside.

By the end of this, tomorrow we should have 2 Mafia dead, 3 if mine and Alventenie's guess work pans out. If decaf is someone important, I would be careful about Alventenie.
Dea : one time when he was playing vs the comps he asked me "how do I make that flying unit that makes the other stuff invisible" and I reply "ur playing terran zomg"
Folca
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
2235 Posts
November 03 2008 13:13 GMT
#623
In the rules it says Mafia can't vote for each other. Earlier I asserted that I thought either Plexa or FakeSteve to also be a mafia to the the authority clue. If we look at the list it says that FakeSteve was supposed to vote for Ace but before we posted how the list was a dumb Idea we have FS posting "I am drunk...lalallalala! Abstain!" He has to abstain because he can't vote for me because it's basically against the list. and he can't vote for Ace because the rules declare that he cannot.

Alventenie your thinking assumes mafia are 100% stupid.

Mafia wouldn't kill me tonight. Leaving myself alive forces the town to lynch myself tomorrow. Whether i get a role check in again or a vote check in again means nothing if there are only two lists to check. So you'd actually just be starting from scratch, and taking chances on decaf's unfulfilled clue. Thats the problem people have - your long term plan isn't really long term. You HAVE to lynch me tomorrow anyway and I can't do a vote check when im dead can he? So you might as well go the sure fire route and lynch him today because between me and him, you KNOW one of us is mafia.


Aces latest post, I don't need to re explain the logic here. Just read the posts and you can see Ace is just trying to preserve the Mafia from what is now about to look like a 3 dead mafia within 2 days. We are moving the Mafia into checkmate, it's just a matter of how this move works here.

## Vote decafchicken
Dea : one time when he was playing vs the comps he asked me "how do I make that flying unit that makes the other stuff invisible" and I reply "ur playing terran zomg"
Folca
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
2235 Posts
November 03 2008 13:14 GMT
#624
@MTF, it makes no sense to vote for me if mafia is going to kill me. If you believe the mafia is going to kill me then why would you help them do it? thats essentially giving them another person to kill off during the day.

If I understand your reasoning, you understand that situation and still vote for me. this is a VERY strange reaction to say the least. It makes me think that you could also be a mafia? Think about it. This draws even MORE suspicion onto Decaf IMO, and to himself. If we find out that decaf is now also a Mafia, that means that MTF must ALSO be a Mafia

Think about it, Mafia can't vote for each other, that means that for FACT Ace is mafia. and if Decaf is mafia, (which this makes it look even MORE like he is) then that basically means that MTF must ALSO be mafia.

If this all pans out, we have found between 3-5 mafia on day 1 T_T this feels like minesweeper right now, I mean we get close to one and all of a sudden they clues come out of the woodwork.

The thing is, I understand it's just the first days clues, but Jesus Christ, when I came out as DT I didn't expect all this shit to go down, at least to this extent.

To narrow it down, here is what I have gathered so far.

Fact: Ace is Mafia

Thoughts: If we prove that Decaf is Mafia by lynching him first. We thus prove that MTF must also be mafia, due to how he seems to understand how it works in his post, YET he still chooses to vote me. If he is also mafia and decaf is mafia. He has no choice but to vote me. He can't vote the others.

So now I have Ace as fact. and MTF and Decaf as EXTREMELY likely mafia.

Then Midnight is still really suspicious , but not nearly as much as the 3 names above him.

Now we bring it down to the other suggestion I made.

FakeSteve chose to not vote, instead of vote for Ace, which according to the list (when people were still kind of listening to it) he chose note to vote. Instead of voting for me. Once again, he can't vote for a MAfia if he is a Mafia.

I believed the clue about authority pointed towards either FakeSteve or Plexa, and I was waiting to see what Plexa said before anything. But I didn't see us having the time to wait.

These 2 however are still very up in the air. The other 4 I am pretty sure about.
Dea : one time when he was playing vs the comps he asked me "how do I make that flying unit that makes the other stuff invisible" and I reply "ur playing terran zomg"
Folca
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
2235 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-03 13:38:32
November 03 2008 13:36 GMT
#627
1) I did investigate you
2) MidnightGladius is a top suspect, because I Know you are a part of the mafia
3) Im following the Decaf plan too

You probably didnt read my posts right
I said, these are my FACTS and THOUGHTS
Are you trying to protect yourself? Its really not working right
Facts : YOU ARE THE MAFIA
Thoughts : MIDNIGHT GLADIUS IS A PRIME SUSPECT IN MY BOOK
All this follows if the townies believe that I am a detective
Dea : one time when he was playing vs the comps he asked me "how do I make that flying unit that makes the other stuff invisible" and I reply "ur playing terran zomg"
Folca
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
2235 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-03 13:43:38
November 03 2008 13:40 GMT
#630
Really dont have the time, which is 6 minutes, does it really matter anyways? rofl
:edit:
Gone
Dea : one time when he was playing vs the comps he asked me "how do I make that flying unit that makes the other stuff invisible" and I reply "ur playing terran zomg"
Folca
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
2235 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-03 21:33:54
November 03 2008 21:32 GMT
#717
I revealed my identity because of how important it is to get rid of Ace before he influents you with his strategies anymore..
I gave myself away as a sacrafice to this town so that the mafia could be incredibly weakened
Sacraficing one DT is good enough as long Ace is out of this game
(On a furthur note, this is my first mafia game )
:edit:
God damn people, just take a risk and destroy Ace
Dea : one time when he was playing vs the comps he asked me "how do I make that flying unit that makes the other stuff invisible" and I reply "ur playing terran zomg"
Folca
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
2235 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-03 23:17:49
November 03 2008 23:14 GMT
#725
I change my vote to Ace
:edit:
The reason I change my vote is because I really do respect Chuiu's clues, and I figured it wouldnt be that damn easy to just give us "coffee" as DecafChicken, hes still very capable for Chuiu to come out with harder clues with
Dea : one time when he was playing vs the comps he asked me "how do I make that flying unit that makes the other stuff invisible" and I reply "ur playing terran zomg"
Folca
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
2235 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-03 23:45:32
November 03 2008 23:44 GMT
#732
On November 04 2008 08:41 clazziquai wrote:
Caller...I don't understand.

I saw Nightmare's list of who should vote for Ace and who should vote for Folca.

I'm merely following directions lol

That direction is long dead.. We cant trust anyone
Just folow your instincts clazziquai, hope it turns out for the best yeah?
Take a risk clazziquai, believe in me, and you will NOT be disappointed
Dea : one time when he was playing vs the comps he asked me "how do I make that flying unit that makes the other stuff invisible" and I reply "ur playing terran zomg"
Folca
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
2235 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-04 00:00:14
November 03 2008 23:52 GMT
#735
Keep in mind people, if you really do believe that i am a Detective..
Ace is trying his best to discredit what im saying, contradicting myself
Dont fall into this, keep true to what you really think is the truth
:edit:
Ok god damn it
Dea : one time when he was playing vs the comps he asked me "how do I make that flying unit that makes the other stuff invisible" and I reply "ur playing terran zomg"
Folca
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
2235 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-04 00:32:00
November 04 2008 00:25 GMT
#743
Bockit, this is where the whole "Lynch Decaf" stigma came from, if we lynch ace we risk losing a valuable player, I admit that. If we lynch me and I am in fact a detective we have effectively done the mafia's job for the night, since if they wait and don't kill me in the night I get to check out another player and there are already some good suspects. So the chances are we would get 2 mafia from losing myself

The thing you said about the whole clue information is true, I agree. But clue information does not equal me getting to check one more person. Plus you IGNORE the fact that if I am indeed a detective theres a huge chance the mafia will kill me anyway, before I get to check another person. Meaning my true colors will be revealed, and well. If the mafia for some unknown reason doesn't kill me. Then you can always lynch me the next day.

Also keep in mind, there was minimal clues pointing to me so far, while there are several that hint Ace a bit. There was one person who barely mentioned it, I forgot their name. Something about the cute picture of my profile

Now to elaborate on something I feel I haven't covered quite well. The whole "Lynch Decaf" stigma, as pointed out before Chuiu accidentally said coffee last game which resulted in Decaf's premature death. Why would he release the same clue again when he stated that he does NOT purposely release red herring? Yet he does the same one again?

If I had it my way, we would vote Ace immdiately, however I understand how a lot of people didn't want to get rid of him that early based off of just my word, then someone mentioned an idea and voted decaf. In my opinion, the way Ace stepped up to defend Decaf was very suspicious, since I know Ace is Mafia, I can't see why he would try to save Decaf instead of trying to scape goat him instead. If we kill decaf it revelas nothing about either of us. However I know that if we kill Decaf there is a very good chance the mafia will kill me, which then also confirm Ace.

Thats my logic behind the whole "Lynch Decaf" thing, it isn't based off of a cup of coffee final meal reference. I put a lot more thought into it. Trying to figure out if Chuiu would make the same mistake twice? I decided I didn't think he did and even if I'm wrong about Decaf, since I admit, thats my guess work NOT my checking power. You can still vote to kill me if for some reason the mafia does, but at this point, if I am telling the truth you are all wasting a lynch and helping the mafia.

Oh and about my mistake in the how mafia can vote thing, I admit I was flawed in my logic there slightly, however Ace blew it way out of proportion, upon rereading the post with my information about how mafia can vote. It really didn't change that much, it just made me look a little misinformed/noobie to the game. Which it's my first time playing, I'm allowed to make mistakes, so please don't fully hold that one against me without reading the post.

I will change my vote back to decaf if I view it likely that we will get enough to lynch him, however the Ace band wagon is good as well, so I will stay there until then
Dea : one time when he was playing vs the comps he asked me "how do I make that flying unit that makes the other stuff invisible" and I reply "ur playing terran zomg"
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November 04 2008 04:10 GMT
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Honestally its in the townie's conclusion, hope you guys choose the best for this round
Dea : one time when he was playing vs the comps he asked me "how do I make that flying unit that makes the other stuff invisible" and I reply "ur playing terran zomg"
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