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fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
November 02 2008 04:44 GMT
#301
Fack I had up to the S's in a well-coded list... Then I got bored and went out. I will still finish it... After I get some fucking sleep lol.
Peace~
Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
17015 Posts
November 02 2008 05:02 GMT
#302
It's now midnight CST.

Chuiu is late!



<_<
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Chuiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
3470 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-02 05:07:08
November 02 2008 05:06 GMT
#303
Hahaha, yeah I was just about to post about that. My roommate just got Army of Two so I naturally had to lend him my talent at 3ps games. It will be up soon.
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Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
17015 Posts
November 02 2008 05:07 GMT
#304
How many minutes? I might be going to sleep soon
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XCetron
Profile Joined November 2006
5226 Posts
November 02 2008 05:10 GMT
#305
Empyrean seems eager to get the game started, he must be mafia since he wants to get rid of us so soon
ulszz
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Jamaica1787 Posts
November 02 2008 05:13 GMT
#306
On November 02 2008 14:10 XCetron wrote:
Empyrean seems eager to get the game started, he must be mafia since he wants to get rid of us so soon

targeting. mafioso burn him!
everliving, everfaithful, eversure
Chuiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
3470 Posts
November 02 2008 05:49 GMT
#307
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With a few moments left the town gathered around the square. "Making the first public mafia lynch will inspire hope in everyone while striking fear into the mafia was the reasoning behind this", stated the Governor. "We need to send out a clear message that organized crime will not be tolerated in the town of Liquidia or anywhere in this state." And Chuiu, the mayor, was their first target, for days he was on trial for his actions and now everyone was excited to see him finally pay the price. With the gallows setup Chuiu took his last sip of coffee, what was left of his final meal, and came out of his cell. Pleading for someone to review the evidence he claimed his innocence as he was pushed further on. Many in the crowd were excessively enthusiastic about the lynching and many were grave and quiet. The noose now tight around his neck Chuiu took a look over at the man ready to pull the switch. "Embrace the release that death brings you", he stated as he pulled the switch. The former mayor flung downward violently and lunged back and forth trying to escape. After only a moment he became very calm and his body started changing color. Chuiu was innocent after all. A few people didn't know what was going on but a riot broke out quickly. Vengeance was the theme and they felt nothing but ill regard for many of Chuiu's accusers. The Governor and Sheriff were quickly captured by the violent crowd and brought back to the gallows. Being the two who brought up charges on Chuiu they were the two to be lynched by the raving mob. First up was the Governor. Loud cheers came from the crowd as his body turned red. Next up was the Sheriff who undoubtedly falsified the documents behind his case. Everyone cheered at his demise also. Then one person stood atop the gallows embracing the moment he cried out to the town "We can trust no mayor, no governor, no authority this day or the next. We must unite to take care of the problem ourselves. Mafia if you hear me then tremble because we are united in our cause and will strike with cruel precision to drive you from our town." And with that the crowd cheered and their first day of mafia hunting began.

[noCluesArea]
Time to lynch someone! There will be no mayors or pardoners or any elected position this game so please remember your vote counts to lynch and only lynch. Vote in this thread and please try to think things through before voting so you don't have to change it several times.

Note to everyone: Day will last 24-72 hours depending on how voting is going. If it seems obvious who is going to die then I may end days quickly but if the town seems split then I will provide more time to let votes diversify a bit more.

Special Note to everyone with a special night role (that means Mafia and assorted Blues): I want nights to last 24 hours only so please try to give me your role actions quickly if not ahead of time before night starts.
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Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
17015 Posts
November 02 2008 05:54 GMT
#308
One thing, Chuiu, could you make it so mafia have to send in individual hits? It seems that inactivity punishes the town but not the mafia - mafia could just send in one master list. This way, for any inactive mafia, their hit won't be used that night. Have something like groups of two or something? Like have a mafia say like

"I am representing myself and mafia #2. Our target is townie."

So that way, inactivity and lack of organization hurt mafia as well as town.

And here is a collection of my previous posts in this thread that I thought would be helpful.

On November 02 2008 01:06 Empyrean wrote:
Ok. Don't rally behind anyone at the moment, mainly because they could be mafia. That way, when they release some "convincing" clues, it could just be the mafia giving out false information. Actually, the mafia could rally the town to lynch another mafia member the first day, thus building trust in the first mafia member. Their kill count won't decrease, anyway. Then, they'll say something along the lines of "hey paramedics, protect me please! I think I'm going to die because I'm giving you guys all this information!". At the end, when all the paramedics are protecting him, if the first mafia was the suicide bomber, he'd just go and suicide himself against some random townie, killing a townie, and multiple paramedics along with him.

So watch out for that. That's what I was going to do if I were mafia.


On November 02 2008 01:40 Empyrean wrote:
The problem with no bodyguards is that you have no one to rally behind, so any detective will be scared to reveal his findings, and lots of mafia will post fake detective findings. It's going to be really hard for town to win this, unless Chuiu posts really easy freaking clues.


On November 02 2008 04:18 Empyrean wrote:
Clues are our only way to go.

Expect a list from me of people's profiles, signatures and just random information. If it makes you feel any better, I ran a mafia game on a different website (non SC related) of which Last Romantic is part of, and some of my clues (he was mafia) were inserting random English translations of a French aria into the post, and having one of the characters be a student practicing organic reaction of silver salts with halogens to form organic halides for his upcoming lab practical as part of the story.

+ Show Spoiler +
That reaction's the Hunsdiecker reaction, discovered independently by Alexander Borodin, who was also, coincidentally, a Russion Nationalist romantic composer


I never really did clue analysis because I thought it was a waste of time, what with all the red herrings and such, but if anyone on that poem knew lesser known French opera (it was Leo Delibes') or lesser known romantic composers, they could have easily deduced that it was Last Romantic. So yeah, clues would be our only chance of town victory.


On November 02 2008 04:23 Empyrean wrote:
Oh, also analysis of voting patters is also useful.

EDIT: And can I continue clue analysis once I die? Like in a blog or something?


On November 02 2008 04:33 Empyrean wrote:
Well, then we can see death patterns as well. For example, if someone's posting clues and they're accurate, the mafia could have them lynched. That way, if someone's being kept alive, it's possible that their clues are incorrect. Or the mafia could anticipate this and just keep them alive for the sake of confusing townsfolk, or kill townies with -incorrect- clue analysis to try and make it seem like they were onto something (when in reality they weren't), leading the town to lynch incorrectly as a result.

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Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
17015 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-02 05:57:40
November 02 2008 05:57 GMT
#309
Also, expect an analysis/potential clues/etc. drafted up for each player in this game by tomorrow. They might not help, but at least they could point in some helpful directions.

Don't forget that clues might not be so obvious. For example, if the mafia were infinity21 (not participating in this game), a post referencing Hilbert's Grand Hotel could point to him (deals with a counterintuitive paradox involving countably and uncountably infinite sets).

EDIT: But also watch out for red herrings. Lots of things in Chuiu's post might not even be clues at all, and clues are notorious for being misinterpreted. But still, they're one of the only things we have going for us at this point without a mayor/DT network.
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Chuiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
3470 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-02 06:01:17
November 02 2008 06:01 GMT
#310
I would love to implement things to encourage players to be more active, Empyrean, but that specific one wouldn't change anything.
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XCetron
Profile Joined November 2006
5226 Posts
November 02 2008 06:13 GMT
#311
On November 02 2008 14:54 Empyrean wrote:
"I am representing myself and mafia #2. Our target is townie."



I saw that, lynch him imo.
bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
November 02 2008 06:50 GMT
#312
Uh Oh :D

moments are the worst units of time -MoRe_mInErAls

GTiM-Ace
very first sentence
Together but separate, like oatmeal
Alventenie
Profile Joined July 2007
United States2147 Posts
November 02 2008 07:40 GMT
#313
I kind of wish i could talk to the dead. Because if i could, I would ask if Chuiu if his coffee was decaf or regular, and if he was a vegetarian or not.
[GiTM]-Ace
Profile Joined September 2002
United States4935 Posts
November 02 2008 08:27 GMT
#314
On November 02 2008 15:50 bumatlarge wrote:
Uh Oh :D
Show nested quote +

moments are the worst units of time -MoRe_mInErAls

GTiM-Ace
very first sentence


lol I'm pretty sure there aren't any clues in this day or atleast I didn't think there were. Isn't this like a random lynch?
I may not be the best player right now but I think I can beat any 'best' players. I'll beat all the best players and become the best player. Watch me. - Jju
aZnvaLiaNce
Profile Joined June 2007
United States942 Posts
November 02 2008 08:46 GMT
#315
On November 02 2008 17:27 [GiTM]-Ace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2008 15:50 bumatlarge wrote:
Uh Oh :D

moments are the worst units of time -MoRe_mInErAls

GTiM-Ace
very first sentence


lol I'm pretty sure there aren't any clues in this day or atleast I didn't think there were. Isn't this like a random lynch?

Actually, anywhere above the "no clues area" line on the day post DO contain clues. Chuiu has to get the town started on discussion so he posts clues in the first day post.
Isnt that worth fighting for? Isnt that worth dying for? - Morpheus
Scorch
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Austria3371 Posts
November 02 2008 10:32 GMT
#316
On November 02 2008 16:40 Alventenie wrote:
I kind of wish i could talk to the dead. Because if i could, I would ask if Chuiu if his coffee was decaf or regular, and if he was a vegetarian or not.

Yeah, take a look at decafchicken. I can't read much out of this set of clues (yet), but this is the first thing that springs to mind. Why else would Chuiu's last meal be mentioned if it wasn't a clue?
Don't take this as me pointing the finger, I'm just trying to get the discussion started. Let's see what other people come up with.
wurm
Profile Joined October 2007
Philippines2296 Posts
November 02 2008 11:04 GMT
#317
Hmm.. looks like everybody else is busy. but now that it started here we go:

Can Chuiu's last meal be relevant? I like Empyrean's reasoning here, clues might not be so obvious, but it could be worth something. I also can't help but feel that Vengeance was the theme is pertaining to something.
I know where my towel is.
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-02 11:09:39
November 02 2008 11:07 GMT
#318
I have a few people in mind, maybe ill have the time to type something comprehensive up but
Then one person stood atop the gallows embracing the moment he cried out to the town "We can trust no mayor, no governor, no authority this day or the next. We must unite to take care of the problem ourselves. Mafia if you hear me then tremble because we are united in our cause and will strike with cruel precision to drive you from our town." And with that the crowd cheered and their first day of mafia hunting began.
Gets me thinking..
Ok. Don't rally behind anyone at the moment, mainly because they could be mafia. That way, when they release some "convincing" clues, it could just be the mafia giving out false information. Actually, the mafia could rally the town to lynch another mafia member the first day, thus building trust in the first mafia member. Their kill count won't decrease, anyway. Then, they'll say something along the lines of "hey paramedics, protect me please! I think I'm going to die because I'm giving you guys all this information!". At the end, when all the paramedics are protecting him, if the first mafia was the suicide bomber, he'd just go and suicide himself against some random townie, killing a townie, and multiple paramedics along with him.

Just seem soo soo similar =/ either
a) Empy has a special role (vigil perhaps?) and has found his way into the clues
b) Empy is mafia trying to persuade the town
c) This could be way way too obvious

Decaf also seems like a prime candidate - almost given to us on a plate as was queasy last game. Perhaps it's better to keep his lynch for later when we have no idea what do to as killing him down doesn't hurt the mafia at all.
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
Scorch
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Austria3371 Posts
November 02 2008 11:45 GMT
#319
Decaf also seems like a prime candidate - almost given to us on a plate as was queasy last game. Perhaps it's better to keep his lynch for later when we have no idea what do to as killing him down doesn't hurt the mafia at all.

I don't get that logic. Why would you rather take risks than kill a mafia when you can? Suppose we go by that strategy and lynch a townie today, and then find another mafia tomorrow. Had we killed the first sure mafia today, we could lynch the second mafia tomorrow and reduce killing power without using up any power roles. Plus, as time passes and more information is revealed, it gets less and less likely that we don't know what to do.
Not saying decaf is that sure mafia at this point, obviously.
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-02 12:01:16
November 02 2008 11:50 GMT
#320
On November 02 2008 20:45 Scorch wrote:
Show nested quote +
Decaf also seems like a prime candidate - almost given to us on a plate as was queasy last game. Perhaps it's better to keep his lynch for later when we have no idea what do to as killing him down doesn't hurt the mafia at all.

I don't get that logic. Why would you rather take risks than kill a mafia when you can? Suppose we go by that strategy and lynch a townie today, and then find another mafia tomorrow. Had we killed the first sure mafia today, we could lynch the second mafia tomorrow and reduce killing power without using up any power roles. Plus, as time passes and more information is revealed, it gets less and less likely that we don't know what to do.
Not saying decaf is that sure mafia at this point, obviously.
It's what we did last game if you recall (with clazziquai in particular). And if you also recall from last game, there are points in time when the town has absolutely no idea where to turn and we do stupid lynches.

EDIT: just found this utterly depressing clue
The noose now tight around his neck Chuiu took a look over at the man ready to pull the switch. "Embrace the release that death brings you"
Links to myself -> Spirit will set you free
=[
plz dont lynch me

It brings tears of joy to my eyes to see the tears of angst in theirs.
- JeeJee's quote

Vengeance was the theme and they felt nothing but ill regard for many of Chuiu's accusers. The Governor and Sheriff were quickly captured by the violent crowd and brought back to the gallows. Being the two who brought up charges on Chuiu they were the two to be lynched by the raving mob.
I think there's a nice connection there as well (or at least to other parts of the day post)
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