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SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
March 20 2008 06:11 GMT
#1421
By the way guys, I'm going to be gone/inactive until Sunday, going to WashDC for Japan Bowl.

Eh.

Pay no mind, it should only be a night and half a day. I'll be active once Sunday afternoon PST hits.
posting on liquid sites in current year
Falcynn
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3597 Posts
March 20 2008 06:11 GMT
#1422
On March 20 2008 15:00 rpf wrote:
What do you guys mean when you say you're going to "lynch a lurker"? I didn't play last round so I'm a little lost. T_T
They mean they're planning on lynching someone who votes (so they don't get kicked from the game) but doesn't contribute anything discussion wise into this thread.
rpf
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States2705 Posts
March 20 2008 06:14 GMT
#1423
Ah, that makes sense.

So what happens if Ace is found to be a member of the mafia? Doesn't that really screw the townies over?
"A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity." - Sigmund Freud
Hittegods
Profile Joined April 2007
Stockholm4641 Posts
March 20 2008 06:15 GMT
#1424
Again, one DT will say so, town lynches the DT, if he's legit then the next lynch is for Ace.
This neo violence, pure self defiance
aZnvaLiaNce
Profile Joined June 2007
United States942 Posts
March 20 2008 06:15 GMT
#1425
On March 20 2008 15:14 rpf wrote:
Ah, that makes sense.

So what happens if Ace is found to be a member of the mafia? Doesn't that really screw the townies over?


I believe a lot of us have already discussed this already. Having a mafia mayor can still benefit the town to a certain extent.
Isnt that worth fighting for? Isnt that worth dying for? - Morpheus
qrs
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3637 Posts
March 20 2008 06:17 GMT
#1426
On March 20 2008 15:15 aZnvaLiaNce wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2008 15:14 rpf wrote:
Ah, that makes sense.

So what happens if Ace is found to be a member of the mafia? Doesn't that really screw the townies over?


I believe a lot of us have already discussed this already. Having a mafia mayor can still benefit the town to a certain extent.
um...how?
'As per the American Heart Association, the beat of the Bee Gees song "Stayin' Alive" provides an ideal rhythm in terms of beats per minute to use for hands-only CPR. One can also hum Queen's "Another One Bites The Dust".' —Wikipedia
rpf
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States2705 Posts
March 20 2008 06:17 GMT
#1427
On March 20 2008 15:15 aZnvaLiaNce wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2008 15:14 rpf wrote:
Ah, that makes sense.

So what happens if Ace is found to be a member of the mafia? Doesn't that really screw the townies over?


I believe a lot of us have already discussed this already. Having a mafia mayor can still benefit the town to a certain extent.

I haven't played before, and I'm sure as fuck not reading 72 pages of this thread to figure it out.
"A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity." - Sigmund Freud
Falcynn
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3597 Posts
March 20 2008 06:17 GMT
#1428
On March 20 2008 15:17 rpf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2008 15:15 aZnvaLiaNce wrote:
On March 20 2008 15:14 rpf wrote:
Ah, that makes sense.

So what happens if Ace is found to be a member of the mafia? Doesn't that really screw the townies over?


I believe a lot of us have already discussed this already. Having a mafia mayor can still benefit the town to a certain extent.

I haven't played before, and I'm sure as fuck not reading 72 pages of this thread to figure it out.
Then look at my blog!!!


/more shameless self promotion
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
March 20 2008 06:20 GMT
#1429
If I happened to be Mafia, then the town knowing this can still always "force" my hand.

Either he acts in the best interest of the Town and is fucked if he doesn't, and/or we double guess his every move and see how he votes and who he doesn't vote for.

But, it's usually a good idea to kill a Mafia Mayor asap once they've been found out.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
qrs
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3637 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-03-20 06:26:29
March 20 2008 06:24 GMT
#1430
A mafia mayor will never act in the best interests of the town. He will always act in the best interests of the mafia. If the best interests of the mafia are to keep their man alive and let the townies do a double lynch or something, he will do that. If the best interests of the mafia are to let the townies kill him, he will do that. This seems obvious to me.

edit: Ace does have an interesting point about playing some sort of weird psychological game, letting him vote and double guessing his moves, but honestly, I don't think too much info can be gleaned from that. He can just abstain.
'As per the American Heart Association, the beat of the Bee Gees song "Stayin' Alive" provides an ideal rhythm in terms of beats per minute to use for hands-only CPR. One can also hum Queen's "Another One Bites The Dust".' —Wikipedia
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
March 20 2008 06:28 GMT
#1431
doh I wanted to plant bombs
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
March 20 2008 06:28 GMT
#1432
Yea and once he abstains he no longer serves a purpose - lynch.

The town can play mind games too
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
March 20 2008 06:28 GMT
#1433
Sorry Inc T_T
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
aZnvaLiaNce
Profile Joined June 2007
United States942 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-03-20 06:30:51
March 20 2008 06:28 GMT
#1434
A mayor in general abstaining to vote does more harm than good, whether or not he's mafia.

edit: D'oh! Stupid grammatical errors.
Isnt that worth fighting for? Isnt that worth dying for? - Morpheus
qrs
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3637 Posts
March 20 2008 06:31 GMT
#1435
On March 20 2008 15:28 aZnvaLiaNce wrote:
A mayor in general abstaining to vote does more harm than good, whether or not he's mafia or not.

You're changing the subject. We were talking about known mafia mayors.
'As per the American Heart Association, the beat of the Bee Gees song "Stayin' Alive" provides an ideal rhythm in terms of beats per minute to use for hands-only CPR. One can also hum Queen's "Another One Bites The Dust".' —Wikipedia
HotZhot
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Colombia677 Posts
March 20 2008 06:31 GMT
#1436
LOL iNc be more active...or not
I only smile in the darK [] sAviOr//JaeDong Fan 4 Ever ~ CJ Entusman # 7
Deleted User 30223
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
3104 Posts
March 20 2008 06:40 GMT
#1437
.____.


well, can't really blame him. true, he should have gone for lurkerish type of people, but whatever.

all we can do now is just wait for morning to come.
Eti307
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
Canada3442 Posts
March 20 2008 07:14 GMT
#1438
ooooooooook I have a lot to read WTF

around 30-40pages to read by tomorrow, awesome. Inc's already dead I see
wurm
Profile Joined October 2007
Philippines2296 Posts
March 20 2008 08:01 GMT
#1439
On March 20 2008 15:00 fusionsdf wrote:
great....

should have lynched empyrean


or Showtime.

I don't agree with the "LET'S LYNCH THE LURKERS" movement. I want to be active (i.e. post more) but I don't agree with a lot of the discussion that happens. If I voice my opinion, it would be more like "OMG he disagrees, MAFIA!". since the majority of you are already set on your plans. Plus, the thread moves way too fast because of all the bickering and trolling.

oh and lol at lynching inc.
I know where my towel is.
Naib
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Hungary4843 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-03-20 08:11:35
March 20 2008 08:04 GMT
#1440
On March 20 2008 15:07 Ace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2008 15:04 ahrara_ wrote:
Well, I still don't think you're worth trusting even with strats and suspicions.

Alven:

I sure as hell hope detectives aren't revealing their roles to him.


If the Detectives investigate me, then reveal their roles to me and see I'm innocent then why wouldn't they PM me?


That was my question: Did a detective investigate you, found you innocent, then PM'd you? How many detectives PM'd you if they already checked you out? You obviously can't lie answering this, should you not be innocent, 'cause then one of them speaks up and you're doomed (the damage would be done anyway, but whatever, I'm fairly sure you're a townie).

Also, random thoughts:

I advise everyone to look at bumatlarge's posts so far. Damn, he does stir up a lot of crap (except in a few). Won't quote, that could mean being out of context - but guys, check them out.
I'm (again) not implying he's mafia, he might as well be an overexcited townie as a regular TL user (no detective role-checking waste needed either). Just look out and keep an eye on him.

As for Showtime: Another shitstrirrer (so is Shallow, but if you look at his usual TL posts...well...go figure) I believe both even being innocent, can cause more harm than good, so we might as well get them out of the way...

Yeah I know, I made myself suspicious with this post. Why would anyone acting on the interest of the town urge to kill (maybe) innocent people without proof? Well, I thinki, as I already said that they can cause more confusion - and that's everything we DON'T need. Feel free to be suspicious of me - I didn't see a single clue pointing at me so far (nor did anyone bring up any), and I'm pretty sure you won't see any in the following day, either

I might get killed by the mafia if I'm too smart though - but I doubt they'd care if Showtime and Shallow are just not-too-bright townies, and nothing else.


Cheers Ace on mayor, and tough luck with the first lynch. You misinterpreted Chuiu's post a bit but that may be forgiven - you were in a haste and everyone was bugging you to carry out your plan. We make mistakes when being urged.

Here's Ace's thinking from my point of view of why he didn't lynch anyone "suspicious" or "over-active" - even Empy: this should be obvious. Active contributing people are helping and revealing themselves at the same time. If you add something to discuss, you're valuable. If you fake doing it, you may become suspicious later. No need to stab a good citizen taking your chances.
As for not lynching a lurker(who didn't post but only voted): Just look at what he said, guys! "If you're just a townie, you better not stir up confusion" that includes remaining silent, when you have nothing to say. It doesn't mean you're counterproductive or inactive, and even though this group has mafia members in fairly high %, if they didn't discuss activity internally, it's still not always worth it. Should Ace got it clear that inactives are getting removed / their roles redistributed, he would have lynched someone from this group, I'm sure. But he could have hit someone who just got a role of an inactive anyway. Same stab-in-the-dark chances.

Sorry if this post is not really coherent, I just woke up and read through all the 10ish pages that popped while I slept.

Edit: Huge wall of text critically hits you for 666. You die Sorry guys
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