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ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
March 18 2008 21:48 GMT
#641
On March 19 2008 06:46 fusionsdf wrote:
s h a l l o w is a m a f i a



Hey, I'm the guy who throws unfounded accusations around around here.
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
17064 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-03-18 22:18:59
March 18 2008 21:48 GMT
#642
I just got back from school, and I'm noticing people arguing against me. Here is why my announcement wasn't a stupid move on my part:

1. Even if I were mafia, a mafia mayor would still be good for the town.

Think about it. Mayors have to act in town interest. If he doesn't, there is mass suspicion against him, and he can be lynched. It's in the town's best interest to always enact double-lynches. If, for some reason, the mayor declines, he's pretty much voted dead the next day.

2. Yes, I am forcing the town's hand.

I'm fine with having someone confirm me as a detective, or for having people give me questions to confirm. If I am not mayor or pardoner, I'll be a likely target for the mafia the first night. They're smart enough to put multiple hits on people to ensure bodyguard protection is wasted. If mafia don't target me first night, I'll be able to reveal some more clues until they're forced to kill me or otherwise be revealed.

[b]3. A detective mayor/pardoner is the best bet for the town.

Why? At the end of the game, it's likely that at least one bodyguard will still be alive. When the playing field has diminished so greatly, I'll be able to ask "What is [player]'s role" which leads to an immediate mafia death.

That's why you should vote for me.
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
March 18 2008 21:48 GMT
#643
If you're trying to get me lynched as part of some mafia plan, it's pretty apparent that you're relying on an inherent distrust of me due to my subterfuge last game.
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
GeneralStan
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States4789 Posts
March 18 2008 21:48 GMT
#644
On March 19 2008 06:46 fusionsdf wrote:
s h a l l o w is a m a f i a


QFT
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
17064 Posts
March 18 2008 21:49 GMT
#645
On March 19 2008 05:31 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
Last game there was no Mafia candidate for Mayor. I can guarantee that this game there's going to be at least one, seeing as how last game if we'd had a mayor we would have taken the win a week earlier.


That could be just what the mafia want us to think. If I have a bodyguard protection, the first thing I'm going to ask is whether or not there were any mafia candidates.
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
March 18 2008 21:51 GMT
#646
On March 19 2008 06:48 GeneralStan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2008 06:46 fusionsdf wrote:
s h a l l o w is a m a f i a


QFT


The mafia have by now had enough time to read my megapost and formulate an opinion on whether they want me killed or not. It would appear that my guesses are for the large part correct, and thus they're trying to turn public support against me.

Go for it guys ^^
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
March 18 2008 21:52 GMT
#647
On March 19 2008 06:49 Empyrean wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2008 05:31 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
Last game there was no Mafia candidate for Mayor. I can guarantee that this game there's going to be at least one, seeing as how last game if we'd had a mayor we would have taken the win a week earlier.


That could be just what the mafia want us to think. If I have a bodyguard protection, the first thing I'm going to ask is whether or not there were any mafia candidates.


If we live by the "That could be just what the mafia want us to think" mindset, we're dead. You and I, along with several other players who were in the last game, know the truth behind this statement.

That being said, best of luck to you, although my vote has already been cast.
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
GeneralStan
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States4789 Posts
March 18 2008 21:52 GMT
#648
I don't trust you Empyrean. Revealing your detective role is foolish and it puts the town in a hard position.

The only thing we have to trust is your word, and in this game, nobody's word is worth anything. I think a better goal for a detective would be to not draw attention to himself, opposite what you're doing.

I'm not going to vote for you just because you claim to be a detective. There's no verification, and it would be easy for the mafia to throw out such a claim and secure a position of power based on the logic "We don't know, so we should protect him!"
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
March 18 2008 21:53 GMT
#649
On March 19 2008 06:52 GeneralStan wrote:
The only thing we have to trust is your word, and in this game, nobody's word is worth anything.


On March 19 2008 06:46 fusionsdf wrote:
s h a l l o w is a m a f i a



Oh hi, didn't see you there.
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
GeneralStan
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States4789 Posts
March 18 2008 21:53 GMT
#650
BTW, shallow, I was just kidding. Though I still don't trust you
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
chroniX
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
517 Posts
March 18 2008 21:54 GMT
#651
btw. did Chuiu say something about day/night length?
and time till the mayor election is open?
GeneralStan
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States4789 Posts
March 18 2008 21:55 GMT
#652
I imagine (hope) the polls will close sometime tomorrow, and day will follow soon after (or is it night?)
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
chroniX
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
517 Posts
March 18 2008 21:55 GMT
#653
oh sht im blind
This round I will attempt to make more fast paced. Each day or night will last a fixed 48 hours...
Falcynn
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3597 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-03-18 21:56:22
March 18 2008 21:55 GMT
#654
All days and nights will be roughly 24-48 hours each (at least I believe that's what he said). So expect a mayor to be elected by tonight or tomorrow night.
Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
17064 Posts
March 18 2008 21:56 GMT
#655
On March 19 2008 06:52 GeneralStan wrote:
I don't trust you Empyrean. Revealing your detective role is foolish and it puts the town in a hard position.

The only thing we have to trust is your word, and in this game, nobody's word is worth anything. I think a better goal for a detective would be to not draw attention to himself, opposite what you're doing.

I'm not going to vote for you just because you claim to be a detective. There's no verification, and it would be easy for the mafia to throw out such a claim and secure a position of power based on the logic "We don't know, so we should protect him!"


1. I need guaranteed protection for my role to be of most use to the town.

2. Even if I WERE a mafia mayor/pardoner, anything I do against public will will cast suspicion on me anyway. So why not have an experienced player who has an insurmountably important role be an elected officer?
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Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
17064 Posts
March 18 2008 21:59 GMT
#656
One further thing:

You may view my revealing of my detective role to be a sort of ultimatum to get me elected to something. The truth is - it is. You can't risk my premature death to the mafia. If I hadn't ran, I would have gathered clues for a few days and then revealed them. If I had revealed each clue individually and I weren't guaranteed protection, I would be dead the next night. And I KNOW that after last game, I'll be on the mafia hit list - I am not a mafia member, and they'll know to take out the best players first.
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fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
March 18 2008 21:59 GMT
#657
On March 19 2008 06:51 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2008 06:48 GeneralStan wrote:
On March 19 2008 06:46 fusionsdf wrote:
s h a l l o w is a m a f i a


QFT


The mafia have by now had enough time to read my megapost and formulate an opinion on whether they want me killed or not. It would appear that my guesses are for the large part correct, and thus they're trying to turn public support against me.

Go for it guys ^^


I think your suspicions are a good start.


don't take a joke the wrong way.
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
March 18 2008 22:01 GMT
#658
On March 19 2008 06:59 fusionsdf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2008 06:51 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
On March 19 2008 06:48 GeneralStan wrote:
On March 19 2008 06:46 fusionsdf wrote:
s h a l l o w is a m a f i a


QFT


The mafia have by now had enough time to read my megapost and formulate an opinion on whether they want me killed or not. It would appear that my guesses are for the large part correct, and thus they're trying to turn public support against me.

Go for it guys ^^


I think your suspicions are a good start.


don't take a joke the wrong way.


Last game a joke got Dr.Dragoon directly lynched, followed by a string of indirect lynchings and deaths.

Putting all of the spaces doesn't seem to do anything by the way.
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
Dark.Carnival
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States5095 Posts
March 18 2008 22:01 GMT
#659
we don't want a mafia mayor, because if you do anything that points to being mafia we'll have to lynch you, and lose the benefits of having a mayor. it was not the best idea to say you're detective, as people mentioned, your word alone isn't sufficient enough for us to believe you, and in revealing your role makes you seem a bit selfish in terms of wanting to be assured protection, which isn't a good quality for the mayor.
@QxGDarkCell ._.
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
March 18 2008 22:01 GMT
#660
On March 19 2008 07:01 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2008 06:59 fusionsdf wrote:
On March 19 2008 06:51 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
On March 19 2008 06:48 GeneralStan wrote:
On March 19 2008 06:46 fusionsdf wrote:
s h a l l o w is a m a f i a


QFT


The mafia have by now had enough time to read my megapost and formulate an opinion on whether they want me killed or not. It would appear that my guesses are for the large part correct, and thus they're trying to turn public support against me.

Go for it guys ^^


I think your suspicions are a good start.


don't take a joke the wrong way.


Last game a joke got Dr.Dragoon directly lynched, followed by a string of indirect lynchings and deaths.

Putting all of the spaces doesn't seem to do anything by the way.


last time a joke got you killed as well
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
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