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nemY
United States3119 Posts
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Camlito
Australia4040 Posts
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MTF
United States1739 Posts
On April 17 2008 02:24 nemY wrote: The inconsistencies in your guys "detective work" is uhh rather disconcerting... =/ Try doing some yourself! :p Also, a general note: the only time criticism is helping in any way is when it is specific enough to reveal faults, such as qrs finding the missing two from Day 2 post. Your comments will be taken much more seriously if they have actual content to them instead of just bashing the people working hardest to figure things out. | ||
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decafchicken
United States20076 Posts
On April 16 2008 17:47 Camlito wrote: Decafs' an idiot. (he would back me up with this). Agreed. I just fucked up and thought i votechecked someone else and then sent ace the list of that person, even though i meant to votecheck someone else. | ||
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L
Canada4732 Posts
![[image loading]](http://teamliquid.net/userfiles/32479.jpg?1205874100) Images typically go unchecked because they haven't been put into lists, but after looking at the clues for today, I went over all of the current profile pictures, and came across this. I'm not going to point any fingers, but this reminds me of a certain mafia character on nearly all of his thematic levels. | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
because The Rock smells what's cookin! | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
Ok L has been confirmed Mafia. I'll explain to you guys the plan we used and why we used it. Sadly, decafchicken messed up the list making us think he was guilty. KH1031 said he protected decaf the night before, so either both of them were mafia or , KH1031 was innocent. So we told decaf to go vigi and kill KH1031. If KH1031 didn't die, we knew decaf was Mafia. So as a failsafe I added another plan. In the event they are BOTH innocent, put one of our suspicious medics on Decaf. We thought decaf would be a possible target if innocent, so if worse comes to worse then decaf would survive the night. However as I told Plexa, the only bad thing that could happen is the WORST CASE SCENARIO of both innocents dying. It happened. And the fake medic didn't protect Decaf. Who's the fake medic? L. Also Heros, I only accused you to see who would jump on the bandwagon and try to help get you lynched. I'll check the voting thread soon to see whats up. Original Message: Protection for Night 5: L - decafchicken Having L protect decafchicken is another plan to leverage us. If decaf is innocent he'd survive the night hopefully. If L is the Mafia he can't protect decaf, but can't risk killing him for fear of not knowing how many medics were assigned to decaf which may screw up the kill list Mafia use. That way we can always catch L in a lie later on that day if h's indeed the mole medic. | ||
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MTF
United States1739 Posts
On April 16 2008 19:10 Camlito wrote: Nono, i think he narrowed down the list to likely people. But its actually now: MTF Smurfingchobo unsoundlogic L Yeah, that's what happened. O, and I forgot to do this: Who We Match: MTF - Mr. Black, from the smashed window reference, "drove through", the reference to love today, and general kickassery. Smurfingchobo - King Black Snake, from the shortness alone. I honestly feel 100% sure that this is Crazie-Penguin's character. unsoundlogic - Mr. Orange, as he continually destroys/silences sources of sound. L - Enigma, as L from Death Note is described as being the worlds greatest detective (Enigma writing down false analysis for the town), unattractive, and mysterious. So, objectively there's a suspect for every one of us four on that list...which really sucks. Out of them, I feel most strongly inclined towards L for suspicious circumstances and strength of ties to Enigma. Also note that out of us four, both unsound and L are on the Mandalor list. If L is indeed Mafia, then that clears the other three of us on the TranceStorm list, and clears unsound (and takes down one Mafia) from the Mandalor list. | ||
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MoRe_mInErAls
Canada1210 Posts
On April 17 2008 04:28 Ace wrote: BREAKING NEWS Ok L has been confirmed Mafia. I'll explain to you guys the plan we used and why we used it. Sadly, decafchicken messed up the list making us think he was guilty. KH1031 said he protected decaf the night before, so either both of them were mafia or , KH1031 was innocent. So we told decaf to go vigi and kill KH1031. If KH1031 didn't die, we knew decaf was Mafia. So as a failsafe I added another plan. In the event they are BOTH innocent, put one of our suspicious medics on Decaf. We thought decaf would be a possible target if innocent, so if worse comes to worse then decaf would survive the night. However as I told Plexa, the only bad thing that could happen is the WORST CASE SCENARIO of both innocents dying. It happened. And the fake medic didn't protect Decaf. Who's the fake medic? L. Also Heros, I only accused you to see who would jump on the bandwagon and try to help get you lynched. I'll check the voting thread soon to see whats up. + Show Spoiler + On April 17 2008 03:51 L wrote: Images typically go unchecked because they haven't been put into lists, but after looking at the clues for today, I went over all of the current profile pictures, and came across this. I'm not going to point any fingers, but this reminds me of a certain mafia character on nearly all of his thematic levels. So I'm innocent! | ||
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L
Canada4732 Posts
Ok here's what we know about last night for sure - EXTREMELY IMPORTANT POST Mafia Kill List for Night 4 1.)Hittegods 2.)xDark.Carnivalx 3.)Lenwe (protected once) - Medic #1 4.)Lenwe 5.)Caller 6.)Meta All of these were legit - now here's something interesting. 7.) Plexa (protected) Medic2 8.)Plexa (protected) Medic3 9.) Plexa (protected again) Medic4 (not confirmed yet) 10.) Jack (I told him to put vet status on) took 1 hit 11.) Jack (protected) Medic 5 or 10 +11 is true. Either way something is wrong. This is all based on the Night Kills + info I got from medics and the Jack. As you can see, something does NOT add up. How could Plexa be protected 3 times and the Jack get hit as a vet and saved? Plexa how many hits were you informed about taking last night? Mafia knew which hits failed. They knew Plexa and someone else failed, and then you went and called that person the jack. But way to go, yet another massive bumbling mistake to reveal another medic. I'll likely be dead tomorrow because of your spotty memory and poor play. :/ Edit: I didn't want to say anything before because that would have made it pretty clear for mafia, but I guess now that decaf's dead and you're trying to get another medic killed, I'm rather forced. | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
It all comes down to the fact that Decaf was not protected AT ALL last night. We only put ONE medic on him - you. There were no bumbling mistakes. I took a gamble that you already knew his ID, which you all surely did. Good try L. Too bad you got caught in the end. | ||
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L
Canada4732 Posts
Edit: 2 vig hits (one on your orders on KH, which decaf pmed me about) + 3 normal kills. Either mafia hit 5 veterans, or they probably put extra hits on decaf to assure that he couldn't vote check in the future. And to add to that, if the Jack's ID was already known by the channel incident, why does it tie to me. Mafia already knew, and with the missing hits, (being over FIFTY PERCENT of their total hits), its incredibly easy to assume that they just tossed an extra hit or two on him to assure his death. | ||
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Amber[LighT]
United States5078 Posts
On April 17 2008 04:55 L wrote: You realize that 5 hits didn't land last night, one of which was protected by me. Where did the rest go? Edit: 2 vig hits (one on your orders on KH, which decaf pmed me about) + 3 normal kills. Either mafia hit 5 veterans, or they probably put extra hits on decaf to assure that he couldn't vote check in the future. And to add to that, if the Jack's ID was already known by the channel incident, why does it tie to me. Mafia already knew, and with the missing hits, (being over FIFTY PERCENT of their total hits), its incredibly easy to assume that they just tossed an extra hit or two on him to assure his death. Perhaps we should look into this? You have the list of veterans Ace? Make sure they're numbers match up to last nights so we can get closer to uncovering another mafia member. | ||
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Amber[LighT]
United States5078 Posts
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suresh0t
United States295 Posts
That being said, I still trust the judgment of Ace and seeing as we don't have any other way to check L out, I will let him decide on what to do, since he is the only one holding the cards for the town. | ||
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suresh0t
United States295 Posts
On April 17 2008 05:07 Amber[LighT] wrote: Lets also not forget it's possible that some mafia can be inactive? Just curious how this would effect anything? | ||
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MTF
United States1739 Posts
On April 17 2008 05:12 suresh0t wrote: Just curious how this would effect anything? It wouldn't. Mafia don't send in individual kills, they just send in a list to Chuiu with how many hits are on who. So, Mafia kill strength doesn't go down any from inactivity. | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
On April 17 2008 04:55 L wrote: You realize that 5 hits didn't land last night, one of which was protected by me. Where did the rest go? Edit: 2 vig hits (one on your orders on KH, which decaf pmed me about) + 3 normal kills. Either mafia hit 5 veterans, or they probably put extra hits on decaf to assure that he couldn't vote check in the future. And to add to that, if the Jack's ID was already known by the channel incident, why does it tie to me. Mafia already knew, and with the missing hits, (being over FIFTY PERCENT of their total hits), its incredibly easy to assume that they just tossed an extra hit or two on him to assure his death. decaf said he didnt get a PM about getting hit | ||
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L
Canada4732 Posts
Also, to reply to amber: Also, L, how do you know your medic save was necessarily guaranteed protection. We can't say for sure. We need to list who was actually hit. Lets also not forget it's possible that some mafia can be inactive? I don't know. I know i stopped one hit. The fact that there was more than one hit is assured, which still leaves 3 in the air. One medic protection wouldn't ever be guaranteed protection, and from mafia's hitting history, they seem to stack hits, or hit a LOT of veterans, none of which have died. Honestly, it doesn't even matter now. Ace just got me killed by mafia hit tomorrow night unless he's trying to set me up to get protected. | ||
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suresh0t
United States295 Posts
On April 17 2008 05:19 MTF wrote: It wouldn't. Mafia don't send in individual kills, they just send in a list to Chuiu with how many hits are on who. So, Mafia kill strength doesn't go down any from inactivity. That's what I thought. | ||
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