Now I know people will again bring up that channel issue...

I wasn't definitely there, and some more thoughts about it
- if the channel was non-pw-ed, then there was no need for a programmer to "hack" it...
- if I found that one, why on earth would I enter there with "araav" ??? making my way there and yet - being so stupid to enter with "araav" ??? a free find of mafia for the town ??? this is ridiculous

now, Showtime, who brought this up, was a townie. For some reason he was in that channel... Means Ace was trusting him... How? Either a detective checked him and reported or Ace just knew it (cough)

Ace also told me that he "araav" indeed entered to the channel. Well, ok, great! So we know for sure "araav" entered there. And that wasn't me. What follows is that it was a mafioso (or a stupid townie - i don't believe this).

my explanation is this:
The plan of PMing roles to Ace was flawed... Ace was sure wurm is the wrong medic and he trusted the mafia-medic. And the mafia medic got the channel. And then mafia knew many-many blues. Then mafia sent one of them as "araav" to the channel. Why?
1. For a lynch-waste for the town
2. for a confusion in the town...
3. for distracting the town from normal process

I am now writing this, means they succeeded in 2-nd and 3-rd points.

my explanation 2 is this (do not comment on this):
+ Show Spoiler +

Ace may be a mafia - they killed bodyguards for makeing this even more unlikely.

Now, Ace, may be i missed it, but - that medic issue - was it resolved? How? Where is the "bad" medic?

araav

Armenia1590 Posts

April 10 2008 07:44 GMT

#3967

erm, lol, they really brought out that once again

Scorch

Austria3371 Posts

April 10 2008 07:45 GMT

#3968

LOOK AT THIS PEOPLE!

On April 05 2008 03:52 Ace wrote:
hmm ok. Chew on this for a while:

Empyrean was roleblocked yesterday.
I'm roleblocked today.

From: New104
Subject: Re: Detective Ability
Date: 4/2/08 03:13
1.

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Original Message:
How many mafia voted for Ace on Day 3?

old message:

MTF
SpiritoftheTuna
d.arkive
Pangolin(2)
Plexa
~OpZ~
NatsuTerran
Eti307
Empyrean
JoxxOr
Romance_us
BloodyC0bbler

are all confirmed innocent

Ace is either incompetent at copy-pasting, or telling us bullshit intentionally. New104 was confirmed innocent by his death and had no reason to lie, so there's definitely something fishy going on. It should be apparent by now that too many blues are dying, and maybe, just maybe, Ace is the reason for this. There is a leak of information somewhere 100%. How else would the mafia know who the last detective is and even use their suicide bomber on him?

aZnvaLiaNce

United States942 Posts

April 10 2008 07:54 GMT

#3969

Rebar, a portmanteau for reinforcing bar or reinforcement bar, is common steel bar, is commonly used in reinforced concrete and reinforced masonry structures. It is usually formed from carbon steel, and is given ridges for better frictional adhesion to the concrete. It can also be described as reinforcement or reinforcing steel. In Australia it is colloquially known as reo.

SoleSteeler.......

edit: As for bolding carbon, I thought that might point to useless, since his profile says that his favorite book is organic chem, which deals with the studies of chemical processes in carbon-based matter (organic = made of carbon).

MoRe_mInErAls

Canada1210 Posts

April 10 2008 07:55 GMT

#3970

First detectives now bodyguards?

It's dangerous to help Ace

Ace

United States16096 Posts

April 10 2008 08:00 GMT

#3971

New104 didnt send me that "confirmed Innocent" list.

I also thought that it was fishy when I got the list how they were "confirmed".

Thanks for pointing that out because if thats the case and the person lied we REALLY got screwed.

aZnvaLiaNce

United States942 Posts

April 10 2008 08:01 GMT

#3972

Wait a minute.....the use of knives, nails, and targeting projectiles.....we labeled as being characteristic of a ninja. Sure, Ninja4Ever is clearly obvious but what about.....

G.s)NarutO? Naruto, for those who don't follow anime, is a ninja that aspires to be a hokage.

Ace

United States16096 Posts

April 10 2008 08:02 GMT

#3973

The medic issue wasn't resolved because the town was following a different lead, so I let it go.

And once again ALL THE BLUES WERE NOT THERE.

This should be obvious by now.

Either way I think I know who's getting lynched tomorrow, and if this happens we got screwed hard. Either way...

Chuiu what are you doing about inactives?.

Scorch

Austria3371 Posts

April 10 2008 08:07 GMT

#3974

On April 10 2008 17:00 Ace wrote:
New104 didnt send me that "confirmed Innocent" list.

I also thought that it was fishy when I got the list how they were "confirmed".

Thanks for pointing that out because if thats the case and the person lied we REALLY got screwed.

Then who did? Whoever first brought up this manipulated list is your mafia.

Ace

United States16096 Posts

April 10 2008 08:08 GMT

#3975

The person who claimed jack of all trades

Ace

United States16096 Posts

April 10 2008 08:09 GMT

#3976

actually let's just lynch that person anyway, shall we?

aZnvaLiaNce

United States942 Posts

April 10 2008 08:10 GMT

#3977

On April 10 2008 17:09 Ace wrote:
actually let's just lynch that person anyway, shall we?

Declare 2x and let's do it.

Ace

United States16096 Posts

April 10 2008 08:11 GMT

#3978

Ok this is the series of PMs. This person also had access to the channel:

Subject: Re: mafia
Date: 3/31/08 15:01
yea i meant bumatlarge

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Original Message:
you mean you vote checked everyone that voted for bumatlarge? This is the list I see:

bumatlarge - 11
MTF
d.arkive
Pangolin(2)
Plexa
fanatacist
Eti307(2)
Empyrean
JoxxOr(2)
Romance_us(2)
BloodyC0bbler(2)
Scorch(2)

Where's Scorch and Spirit from?

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Original Message:
yea you never told me what to do so i just vote checked random bum

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Original Message:
oh you used DT powers?

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Original Message:

MTF
SpiritoftheTuna
d.arkive
Pangolin(2)
Plexa
~OpZ~
fanatacist
NatsuTerran
Eti307
Empyrean
JoxxOr
Romance_us
BloodyC0bbler

are all confirmed innocent
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Original Message:
if so you'll probably want to check some counts, but dont PM anyone else except caller or lenwe while I'm away.

They'll definitely know what to do at the moment since I'm not here.

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Original Message:
yea
im sure i could get away with using detective (if not its worth a try )

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Original Message:
hmmm no idea yet. Night hasnt come yet, so we'll see when I get back.

you have what left?

vigi,medic and vet right?

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Original Message:
You still havent pm'd me what to do and time is running out.

unless you want me to go vigi on someones ass?

Ace

United States16096 Posts

April 10 2008 08:12 GMT

#3979

On April 10 2008 17:10 aZnvaLiaNce wrote:

Show nested quote +

Declare 2x and let's do it.

we need a second victim

Scorch

Austria3371 Posts

April 10 2008 08:16 GMT

#3980

Ask him where he got this list from, and if his explanation isn't absolutely credible, reveal his name for us to lynch him. Since the mafia seems to know almost everything anyway, i don't think it is crucial to keep many secrets.

By the way, why didn't you have one or multiple medics protect your last detective? They would have died to the suicide bomber, so in retrospect it is lucky you didn't, but how could you risk the lone detective's life this easily?