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Night[Mare
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Mexico4793 Posts
February 13 2008 05:26 GMT
#861
Everyone is being overly paranoid. Wait for more clues instead of acusing somebody! if we focus on the clues then we might get a score on mafia or two!
Teamliquidian townie
JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
February 13 2008 05:29 GMT
#862
On February 13 2008 14:26 RtS)Night[Mare wrote:
Everyone is being overly paranoid. Wait for more clues instead of acusing somebody! if we focus on the clues then we might get a score on mafia or two!


you want us to delay so that your mafia buddies can have more free shots at us kind townies! fat chance!

haha ok i'm done now :D sleepy time
(\o/)  If you want it, you find a way. Otherwise you find excuses. No exceptions.
 /_\   aka Shinbi (requesting a name change since 27/05/09 ☺)
GeneralStan
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States4789 Posts
February 13 2008 05:32 GMT
#863
On February 13 2008 14:26 RtS)Night[Mare wrote:
Everyone is being overly paranoid. Wait for more clues instead of acusing somebody! if we focus on the clues then we might get a score on mafia or two!


I have to agree.

But I do propose this. We stand up to FakeSteve about his revenge killing. We deserve an answer as his constituents, and we outnumber him pretty substantially, so lets not back down.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Falcynn
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3597 Posts
February 13 2008 05:38 GMT
#864
Also as already stated, unless he's mafia he can't really do anything to us for standing up to him since he already used up his instakill.
GeneralStan
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States4789 Posts
February 13 2008 05:40 GMT
#865
On February 13 2008 14:38 Falcynn wrote:
Also as already stated, unless he's mafia he can't really do anything to us for standing up to him since he already used up his instakill.


You speak truth
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Tracil
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
Australia505 Posts
February 13 2008 05:56 GMT
#866
On February 13 2008 14:22 JeeJee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2008 14:19 GeneralStan wrote:
God damn it JeeJee. Come to your senses. Look at all the suspicious and irrational things FakeSteve has said.

Tracil has said nothing but reasonable things, and damn it the Mafia doesn't get ahead by saying reasonable things.

FakeSteve is dangerous, Mafia or not.


mafia doesn't get ahead by unreasonable things either. mafia gets ahead by putting up a reasonable front while conducting murder operations on the backend ;-)

here's some more random accusations based on day one clues
i have a precise list somewhere, but i'll do these from memory

evan, there was something about joy, and his name stars with a phonetic e so depending on how you view iaagh...

hotzhot, who else would talk down to his mafia members? he thinks he's such a hotshot doesn't he?

more more more! this is fun


asdf

YES the mafiso want to appear to be reasonable. NO that does NOT make being reasonable a sign that points to being mafia. What, we're all supposed to be unreasonable blind idiots? What are you actually implying here? I mean... you do think townies should be reasonable, right? Right. If you don't, well, there's something wrong with you.

Random accusations are inferior to directed suspicion and questioning. All randomly accusing people begets is more random accusations, followed by this "I'm not mafia! You're attacking me- you must be mafia!" crap.
Shooting
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
February 13 2008 06:15 GMT
#867
this is intense

im not mafia by the way
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
GeneralStan
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States4789 Posts
February 13 2008 06:19 GMT
#868
On February 13 2008 15:15 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
this is intense

im not mafia by the way


Fake Steve, why did you kill Altheios?
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Falcynn
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3597 Posts
February 13 2008 06:23 GMT
#869
Seriously...I mean if you say "because he pissed me off" I can actually fully understand that coming from you...but there has to be a better explanation.
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
February 13 2008 06:26 GMT
#870
to spread ambiguity

If there's one thing that's true right now, its that only the mafia know i'm not in the mafia.

we'll see what that means later on
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
GeneralStan
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States4789 Posts
February 13 2008 06:29 GMT
#871
That's the vaguest and most suspicious thing I've ever heard. You can't baffle us with your bullshit Steve, we want answers
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-02-13 06:30:32
February 13 2008 06:30 GMT
#872
let me put it this way:

if only the mafia know i'm in the mafia, then by an erratic action we see who opposes me heavily

some mafia members will oppose me as a front, knowing i'm not in the mafia. other citizens will accuse me, without being in the mafia themselves.

this is the fastest and most efficient way to guage where peoples' thoughts are. everything is evidence and as it accumulates it becomes more useful
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
GeneralStan
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States4789 Posts
February 13 2008 06:39 GMT
#873
That's ridiculous. Claiming anybody who opposes you is a Mafioso is straight out of a dictatorship. After all of your opponents gone, there will be nobody left to question your excesses, whatever your goal may be.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
ulszz
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Jamaica1787 Posts
February 13 2008 06:40 GMT
#874
On February 13 2008 15:30 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
let me put it this way:

if only the mafia know i'm in the mafia, then by an erratic action we see who opposes me heavily

some mafia members will oppose me as a front, knowing i'm not in the mafia. other citizens will accuse me, without being in the mafia themselves.

this is the fastest and most efficient way to guage where peoples' thoughts are. everything is evidence and as it accumulates it becomes more useful


That actually makes sense.
everliving, everfaithful, eversure
GeneralStan
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States4789 Posts
February 13 2008 06:40 GMT
#875
Being against a powerhungry psychopath doesn't make me a Mafioso.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
ulszz
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Jamaica1787 Posts
February 13 2008 06:42 GMT
#876
Posting your strat is a bad idea. Hey T, I'm 4 pooling and I'm at 12.
everliving, everfaithful, eversure
Tracil
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
Australia505 Posts
February 13 2008 06:42 GMT
#877
Look, if you're telling the truth, I think that's still dangerous.

1) If you're not mafia, then you lead both citizens to accuse you, and it becomes possible for the actual mafia to use you as a scapegoat. You basically serve yourself up on a platter.

2) This actually sets a bad precedent, where this excuse becomes somewhat legitimate. For instance, if a mafia slips up, he can then argue that he likewise took a rash action to see 'who opposed and who didn't oppose me'.

Also, you may have slipped up by saying 'if only the mafia know i'm in the mafia'. You meant 'not' in the mafia. These little tells may seem inconsequential. However, as I've said before, it's far more likely an actual mafioso makes a 'small' mistake like that than a townie.

So. Yeah. I can understand, however, that a townie may think this is a strong opening strategy, and this has actually gone some way in lessening my suspicion. I wouldn't accept this out of someone who had claimed to play mafia in the past, for instance.
Shooting
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
February 13 2008 06:44 GMT
#878
On February 13 2008 15:39 GeneralStan wrote:
That's ridiculous. Claiming anybody who opposes you is a Mafioso is straight out of a dictatorship. After all of your opponents gone, there will be nobody left to question your excesses, whatever your goal may be.


not everyone who opposes me is mafia

but now i have the beginning of putting names to roles, because it is a gaurantee that some of the people who oppose me are mafia
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
ulszz
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Jamaica1787 Posts
February 13 2008 06:44 GMT
#879
On February 13 2008 15:40 GeneralStan wrote:
Being against a powerhungry psychopath doesn't make me a Mafioso.


True but some of what he said may actually be true. And the plan would of worked better if he didn't do anything to upset regular townys, because now there is a reason as a regular towny to be against him. But if he just played it straight from the beginning the plan may of worked.
everliving, everfaithful, eversure
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
February 13 2008 06:45 GMT
#880
On February 13 2008 15:42 Tracil wrote:
Look, if you're telling the truth, I think that's still dangerous.

1) If you're not mafia, then you lead both citizens to accuse you, and it becomes possible for the actual mafia to use you as a scapegoat. You basically serve yourself up on a platter.

2) This actually sets a bad precedent, where this excuse becomes somewhat legitimate. For instance, if a mafia slips up, he can then argue that he likewise took a rash action to see 'who opposed and who didn't oppose me'.

Also, you may have slipped up by saying 'if only the mafia know i'm in the mafia'. You meant 'not' in the mafia. These little tells may seem inconsequential. However, as I've said before, it's far more likely an actual mafioso makes a 'small' mistake like that than a townie.

So. Yeah. I can understand, however, that a townie may think this is a strong opening strategy, and this has actually gone some way in lessening my suspicion. I wouldn't accept this out of someone who had claimed to play mafia in the past, for instance.


i didn't slip up, my post is unedited and reads 'only the mafia know i'm not in the mafia'

'not in the mafia'
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