EPTI'm going to bed.
Not lying low.
I'll defend more false accusations tomorrow.
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Canada12499 Posts
I'm going to bed. Not lying low. I'll defend more false accusations tomorrow. | ||
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Dr.Dragoon
United States1241 Posts
On February 12 2008 14:57 Falcynn wrote: If you become bodyguard then you'll probably get killed at night. Reason I say this is because if the mayor finds out you're his bodyguard then he'll probably try to defend you from being lynched, and if that happens then the mafia will realize something's up and then kill you. Exactly what I thought, which is also partly why I think Tracil would make an awful mayor. I was actually setting up the trap to get him with, but you went and brought it up already. | ||
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Tracil
Australia505 Posts
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Dr.Dragoon
United States1241 Posts
On February 12 2008 15:03 Tracil wrote: I would not give away bodyguards were I mayor unless there was no other way to avoid getting them lynched. If they are about to get lynched I would reveal that they are bodyguards and move the lynch elsewhere (since only townies can be bodyguards, they can never be mafia.) Yes, this may incite the mafia to kill them. Better that than wasting a lynch on a confirmed townie. The point is that you have already stated your moves. You have already told the mafia what you will do. For SMB or FakeSteve, it wouldn't be too surprising if they didn't lynch me. However, you already gave away your intentions, and practically threw away a potential bodyguard as a result. | ||
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Tracil
Australia505 Posts
I also already suspect you anyway and this has been made plainly evident. It would be equally bad of me to get elected mayor and kill someone without hinting at whom I would target beforehand at all. | ||
Live2Win
United States6657 Posts
On February 12 2008 14:47 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: The mafioso who killed Chuiu's name started with i. This leaves us with: -ieatkids5 -imDerek -ilovezil -infinity21 The prononciation of "iaaagh" implies that the "i" is clearly pronounced, leaving us with ilovezil, ieatkids5, and imDerek. Chuiu joined teamliquid in 2003, and has been "a thorn in my side since the day I got here". This implies that it has been a long time that Chuiu has been irritating the person in question. The issue arises here that the closest join date was that of ieatkids5, in September 2004. I'm still working out this clue, but I think it places ieatkids5 as a good suspect at this time, with ilovezil and imDerek close behind. [EDIT=Breakthrough] Depending on how Aepplet is pronounced, it could be taken as "i-pplet". Aepplet joined the site in 2003, mere months after Chuiu! [EDIT] wow, great catch right there.... Definately helpful. | ||
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Dr.Dragoon
United States1241 Posts
On February 12 2008 15:11 Tracil wrote: Not really; turning around and not lynching you, if you turn out to be a bodyguard, is basically the only option I'd have. The odds of you being picked as bodyguard are likewise slim, so I have no problem stating this upfront. I also already suspect you anyway and this has been made plainly evident. It would be equally bad of me to get elected mayor and kill someone without hinting at whom I would target beforehand at all. You don't have to lynch someone right away. Besides, another reason why you would be a bad mayor is that you suspect me so much anyways. The only real evidence is an obviously fake screen by shallow. The format is shady and doesn't follow the chain of events. Not to mention the writing is all off compared to mine. Shallow likes going around and accusing people and making joke accusations. There's also the fact that we haven't always gotten along, which could easily be the reason for him to target me. | ||
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EmeraldSparks
United States1451 Posts
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Falcynn
United States3597 Posts
On February 12 2008 15:22 Dr.Dragoon wrote: It's not really about the PM. It's mostly about your reaction to it and the way you defended yourself that got everyone suspicious.You don't have to lynch someone right away. Besides, another reason why you would be a bad mayor is that you suspect me so much anyways. The only real evidence is an obviously fake screen by shallow. The format is shady and doesn't follow the chain of events. Not to mention the writing is all off compared to mine. Shallow likes going around and accusing people and making joke accusations. There's also the fact that we haven't always gotten along, which could easily be the reason for him to target me. | ||
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Dr.Dragoon
United States1241 Posts
On February 12 2008 15:25 EmeraldSparks wrote: Barring really, really, really ridiculous circumstances, town always wants to lynch every day. This is really just a fact of mafia. I'm very aware of that, which is actually why I took the role of an oaf when I was initially accused. | ||
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Dr.Dragoon
United States1241 Posts
On February 12 2008 15:27 Falcynn wrote: It's not really about the PM. It's mostly about your reaction to it and the way you defended yourself that got everyone suspicious. Really? I figured if I obviously denied it, I would get the same reaction, if not worse. Why would someone not innocent act like a dumbass? I find it rather farfetched to believe someone would make such an obvious mistake in the first place. If I denied it, I would have to keep that position and attitude, and it would be harder for me to place any further doubt past that point. | ||
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Tracil
Australia505 Posts
I'll go through the thread again and check out what both you and Swallow have said; I'd obviously rather hit scum right off the bat, of course. | ||
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Falcynn
United States3597 Posts
But to be perfectly honest...you were pretty much screwed once shallow posted that picture since anyway you may have reacted could've been interpretted as mafia behaviour...except maybe silence...but that still would've been iffy. Anyways the way shallow presented you in his picture (for the sake of arguement I'll pretend it's fake) and the way you acted afterwards probably made people think that it's very likely you were the same person. On the other hand if you would've denied it with as much grace and sophistication as is possible on an internet forum...you may have gotten a small chance to get away. | ||
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infinity21
Canada6683 Posts
On February 12 2008 15:17 Live2Win wrote: wow, great catch right there.... Definately helpful. See, I told you people that I wasn't a mafia. We're a finite simple group of order two~ p.s. be wary of those who lead discussions | ||
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Dr.Dragoon
United States1241 Posts
On February 12 2008 15:32 Tracil wrote: I do have the choice on who to lynch today if I'm elected mayor, and I certailny don't plan to lynch nobody. *One* of you and Swallow is clearly lying (you've said it was a fake, so you're denying sending that message, right? Ok.) and it's highly likely one of you two is scum; therefore we should lynch one of you ASAP and then we'll be in a position to make a judgement on the other. As I said before, trading one town for one scum is actually a good deal, as there are far more townies than mafioso. I'll go through the thread again and check out what both you and Swallow have said; I'd obviously rather hit scum right off the bat, of course. You went back to Swallow lol. Anyways, I'm pretty sure you're wrong. While I do not know for sure if Shallow is mafia or not, I doubt he is because of the points I responded to earlier in the thread. This may put me in further danger, but that's how I feel. My honest opinion on this is that neither Shallow nor I are mafia. We've had slight drama in the past, which I doubt you've seen. Second, was that this probably started as more of a joke, as can probably be inferred from Shallow's initial accusation in the first place. Of course it escalated, and Shallow doesn't want to back down, so the result is the current situation. | ||
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Dr.Dragoon
United States1241 Posts
On February 12 2008 15:33 Falcynn wrote: Because that's what a mafia would do. But to be perfectly honest...you were pretty much screwed once shallow posted that picture since anyway you may have reacted could've been interpretted as mafia behaviour...except maybe silence...but that still would've been iffy. Anyways the way shallow presented you in his picture (for the sake of arguement I'll pretend it's fake) and the way you acted afterwards probably made people think that it's very likely you were the same person. On the other hand if you would've denied it with as much grace and sophistication as is possible on an internet forum...you may have gotten a small chance to get away. If mafia wins, be sure to blame Shallow once it ends. I think both of us would be strong allies, but he totally screwed us over anyways. | ||
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Tracil
Australia505 Posts
Townies pulling shit like that probably don't want to win and are harmful to the town as a whole. If we let jokes like that slide now, that can give mafioso free licence to make up stuff in the future and then pass it off as just being funny. I'm not prepared to simply let it go, and if you are both townies, then it should be an object lesson as to *why you shouldn't bull stunts like that*. And what is with this 'be wary of those who lead discussions' crap? If nobody tries to start a discussion or go anywhere, the town as a whole is not going to progress! Trying to dissuade people from talking is kinda suicidal. | ||
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CDRdude
United States5625 Posts
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infinity21
Canada6683 Posts
On February 12 2008 15:52 Tracil wrote: A joke? I'm not just dismissing this as a joke. Let it be an object lesson on why doctoring up stuff like that to try and get other townies lynched is a *scum tactic* and not something a townie should do. Townies pulling shit like that probably don't want to win and are harmful to the town as a whole. If we let jokes like that slide now, that can give mafioso free licence to make up stuff in the future and then pass it off as just being funny. I'm not prepared to simply let it go, and if you are both townies, then it should be an object lesson as to *why you shouldn't bull stunts like that*. And what is with this 'be wary of those who lead discussions' crap? If nobody tries to start a discussion or go anywhere, the town as a whole is not going to progress! Trying to dissuade people from talking is kinda suicidal. I never said everyone who leads a discussion is automatically a mafia -__- I said "be wary" which means to keep an eye out for them. There's a difference. People who lead discussions can (for obvious reasons) lead discussions in the direction that they want, which is something an intelligent mafia member will do. So if you find someone who's trying to throw off the townies from lynching the right person, then it's valid to suspect him/her. err him. | ||
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Falcynn
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