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On June 08 2024 09:37 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2024 09:34 AlphaZero wrote:On June 08 2024 09:24 rsoultin wrote:
okay obviously i need to explain
isn't the crux of the push on scott
1) he opened with setup discussion = mafia = policy lynch
2) he asked how masons are towny then explained how masons are towny = objectively inconsistent You know there is more to it than that. cause you commented on it. Come on now. the 'more to it' isn't interesting to me it was fine for you and viva to jump on that early cause that was all there was and probably the only interesting thing going on apart from truffle sounding like a bloody robot. we've now got ~30 pages of game
Yes that’s fair in isolation. but the second point against him definitely tracks with a mafia agenda.
Now there are two points for the same player that don’t sit right. That’s a pattern building.
But hey, feel free to present an alternative option if you see one.
I will consider it on its merits.
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On June 08 2024 09:42 Trfel wrote:
AlphaZero, have you played much with scott31337?
No
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On June 08 2024 13:30 Oatsmaster wrote:
Withholds information how?
Idk why people (trfel&mocsta) don’t wanna talk about az so weird
Me too. Interesting .
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Am I an easy mislynch here? How refreshing.
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On June 07 2024 23:17 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2024 23:08 marvellosity wrote:On June 07 2024 23:07 Mocsta wrote:On June 07 2024 23:01 AlphaZero wrote:
I think there is a very good chance mocsta is mafia.
There is a lot of bluster and attacking players which on the surface could look town aligned , but it doesn’t seem like he is genuinely trying to determine alignments to me. Lol Talk about gaslighting Call me mafia and ignore *my* questions to elucidate Wonder who is more likely to gaslight between town and mafia..... That’s not what gaslighting is off topic but it is in the basis of telling me I'm wrong and then I ask for more saying I'm too stupid to get it or lazy or whatever I much prefer his tone on most recent post since this so don't intend to talk about this comment any further. Just sought to stand my ground on a topic that matters in real life. No worries if you still disagree.
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On June 08 2024 14:27 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2024 14:15 AlphaZero wrote:
Am I an easy mislynch here? How refreshing. Who is suspicious of you? Mocsta, rsoultin, and die_meatbaby right? Am I missing anyone? I guess mayyyybe scott31337? Four votes at most, hardly an easy mislynch.
I thought you were somewhat interested.
I just don’t have the time or inclination to really defend myself so we will see I guess.
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On June 08 2024 14:42 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2024 13:30 Oatsmaster wrote:
Withholds information how?
Idk why people (trfel&mocsta) don’t wanna talk about az so weird because there has been resistance so it just clouds discussion when a few people were yet to post i.e. put into monitor basket. I would summarise AZ style of play as pulling up inconsistencies and letting others draw conclusions. it is the missing conclusion that i refer to as withhold..
im not talking about withholding reads, those have been aired yet are all over the place and everything is contingent on something else which i associate as a scum thing to do. scott, trfel, trfel, mocsta, trfel, scott, vivax, scott, vivax,vivax,
Like one thing I cannot get past is that AZ is defending Kelsier as if he is a town-read, yet calls him "very null" to the point that anyone attacking is super sus.. I just struggle to see town being this hedged. Show nested quote +On June 08 2024 06:38 AlphaZero wrote:
Kelsier: anyone with a strong opinion here is sus. Very null. Literally the only thing about kelsier in his filter is: Show nested quote +On June 07 2024 21:36 AlphaZero wrote:
I find it funny that mocsta called me out for needlessly nitpicking before nitpicking everything about kelsier's entry post that wasn't bad at all. Show nested quote +On June 08 2024 07:06 AlphaZero wrote:
Rso can you explain to me why Kellsier seems to be scum read by everyone. Am I missing something here?
I’d hardly call that defending him the first part was pointing out your hypocrisy
The second was not understanding the scum read on him which is entirely consistent with my strong null read.
I think my points on Scott are the best scumhunting that has happened this game.
And I have a good set of town reads.
Now that I think about it I’m playing really well.
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It's probably mocsta/scott/xxx someone like vivax or slam
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But the town will suck it up and mislynch twice before they figure it out
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On June 08 2024 18:03 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2024 18:01 AlphaZero wrote:
It's probably mocsta/scott/xxx someone like vivax or slam Well I mean that's predictable given me today What if it wasn't me? Would Scott/vivax/slam still be your group?
Not sure, I don't really work with teams much of the time. Just work on what is individually scummy and then if the team makes sense that's bonus points.
I think it's possible rso is mafia for example, but I wouldn't make a wager that this was the case. Same with rayn.
I think Scott and yourself are a pairing that makes sense if I was going to make associative cases. And you are both in the poe if I was going to eliminate the townie looking players.
If one of you was town though I would bet you were town over Scott hands down.
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On June 08 2024 18:08 Mocsta wrote:
Alpha.. is there anything in particular that removes dmb from your pool of scum?
Nope. Nor is there anything that puts her in it.
But she is firmly in the poe.
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On June 08 2024 18:15 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2024 18:11 Mocsta wrote:On June 08 2024 18:09 marvellosity wrote:On June 08 2024 17:55 Mocsta wrote:On June 08 2024 17:49 marvellosity wrote:On June 08 2024 17:48 Mocsta wrote:On June 08 2024 17:43 marvellosity wrote:
The push-but I’m not going to push from Mocsta gives me the ick well you've been building that since yesterday We are both here. Let's chat My head space has been outputted in past couple posts. Where do we go from here? Btw. I believe people do change however you used to read me pretty good and go against grain to back me. I'm not scum calling you or being butthurt. More confused than anything hopefully chat helps that both ways. This is not my memory lol ohh haha.. well I know there was a game I was mafia and took you to the end so that's fair Funny how objective reality distorts through each user! Copy copy I know what Scott asked me and that I didn't answer directly If I had mayor vote. I would drop AZ If I could lead a wagon I would consider kelsier/dmb If I wanted to take a gamble I would drop Rayn. I have to read sandroba / slam although I haven't been concerned by them to date I have not seen anything else I want to sheep at this point although recognize my current cred means I need to 🐑 So who are you lynching? for real.. my vote is in kelsier mate .that's a disappointing response form you. I extended an olive branch too Oh yeah. That vote from way earlier d1? I mean he reason it’s a disappointing response from me is because reading so many of your posts, that doesn’t seem to be the main driver for you. What I’m getting at is if your vote wasn’t there it would be really unclear what you were doing. And as for olive branch, I’m not being a dick am I?
You are not being a dick for the record- not even dick adjacent-
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As far as I can see the argument for not lynching Scott is
- he is lynchbait in the past ((although trfel disproved that somewhat)
- alpha is scummy and is pushing a mislyynch
- ???
Doesn't really outweigh the substantively scummy things he has done.
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Mocsta can you give me an analysis of Scott from your perspective please
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On June 08 2024 18:28 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2024 18:23 AlphaZero wrote:
As far as I can see the argument for not lynching Scott is
- he is lynchbait in the past ((although trfel disproved that somewhat)
- alpha is scummy and is pushing a mislyynch
- ???
Doesn't really outweigh the substantively scummy things he has done. None of those apply to me Ignoring mason neighbour thing since he has since fully dropped it Rest of filter looks like active hunting to me I don't care he buddies to me. As town or Mafia it fits how the thread has shaped. I think he pulled up some interesting posts. He has no such limited cred can't start a wagon either so that's pretty much max output he can do as a townie. Would he do that as mafia? I genuinely don't think so.
Can you post some hunting he is doing that isn't refrencing me (cause to me that Is a point against him) just curious what you consider active hunting.
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On June 08 2024 17:23 Mocsta wrote:
I want to see how diemeatballs responds to az voting vivax
Dmb filter is small and concise yet I find I have to really concentrate to not gloss over it.. it's like there is a focus/permission to concentrate on vivax and by extension oats and rest is playful interaction with no purpose that I can identify.
May also fit into theory of not wanting to mason although that's not an argument as very hypothetical.
Does dmb fit into town meta? I really can't be armed to dig through past games.
Which then also is a point of curiosity that dmb made a big deal to requests Scotts past game history.. a glimpse of active and productive townie yet rest of filter doesn't align with that gusto
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On June 08 2024 18:31 AlphaZero wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2024 17:23 Mocsta wrote:
I want to see how diemeatballs responds to az voting vivax
Dmb filter is small and concise yet I find I have to really concentrate to not gloss over it.. it's like there is a focus/permission to concentrate on vivax and by extension oats and rest is playful interaction with no purpose that I can identify.
May also fit into theory of not wanting to mason although that's not an argument as very hypothetical.
Does dmb fit into town meta? I really can't be armed to dig through past games.
Which then also is a point of curiosity that dmb made a big deal to requests Scotts past game history.. a glimpse of active and productive townie yet rest of filter doesn't align with that gusto
Nothing here makes her mafia imo
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On June 08 2024 18:28 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2024 18:23 AlphaZero wrote:
As far as I can see the argument for not lynching Scott is
- he is lynchbait in the past ((although trfel disproved that somewhat)
- alpha is scummy and is pushing a mislyynch
- ???
Doesn't really outweigh the substantively scummy things he has done. None of those apply to me Ignoring mason neighbour thing since he has since fully dropped it Rest of filter looks like active hunting to me I don't care he buddies to me. As town or Mafia it fits how the thread has shaped. I think he pulled up some interesting posts. He has no such limited cred can't start a wagon either so that's pretty much max output he can do as a townie. Would he do that as mafia? I genuinely don't think so.
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On June 08 2024 18:32 AlphaZero wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2024 18:28 Mocsta wrote:On June 08 2024 18:23 AlphaZero wrote:
As far as I can see the argument for not lynching Scott is
- he is lynchbait in the past ((although trfel disproved that somewhat)
- alpha is scummy and is pushing a mislyynch
- ???
Doesn't really outweigh the substantively scummy things he has done. None of those apply to me Ignoring mason neighbour thing since he has since fully dropped it Rest of filter looks like active hunting to me I don't care he buddies to me. As town or Mafia it fits how the thread has shaped. I think he pulled up some interesting posts. He has no such limited cred can't start a wagon either so that's pretty much max output he can do as a townie. Would he do that as mafia? I genuinely don't think so.
This post is sus- how can you just ignore the points against him? It's like you aren't trying to discern what that means for his alignment.
Even Ignoring his opening, his case against me was objectively scummy-
Then you call his scumhunting a strong point.
It's mind boggling stuff.
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