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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 13 2024 09:58 GMT
#3881
Trfel thoughts on Mocsta?
Can you fucking see he is only working with whatever the thread sentiment is at times?
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Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
June 13 2024 10:01 GMT
#3882
On June 13 2024 18:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2024 18:47 Mocsta wrote:
On June 13 2024 18:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 13 2024 18:42 Mocsta wrote:
to me, you can only be mafia if dmb is mafia

explain pls.

dude. its already there, i gave 2 specific scenarios that only unlock based on dmb because dmb was the counter wagon

i know you read good too, what is this?

If i get it right what you are saying, you think there is a chance that mafia!rayn went to fuck up mafia!sandroba because there was a wagon on mafia!dmb? That's your interpretaion?
hmmm, i dont think so?

i'm saying the mafia!rayn is a good player and recognises the preferred outcome is always to mislynch than bus

so why bus?

theres only 2 scenarios i value; both contingent on DMB being mafia.. thus, both wagons are mafia, and there is not insufficient thread control to push onto mislynch

scenario 1 = Sandro goon, DMB power.. mafia decide to prioritise keeping the power role

scenario 2 = Sandro notified of AFK.. rayn decides to bus.. because DMB is a counter wagon, is forced to commit to the bus and ride the cred

i genuinely believe mafia!rayn hops of the bus at some point if DMB is town

is this breakdown actaully diffferent to what i wrote before? to me its the same thing with more words? thats a real question
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
June 13 2024 10:02 GMT
#3883
On June 13 2024 18:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Trfel thoughts on Mocsta?
Can you fucking see he is only working with whatever the thread sentiment is at times?
i would say the majority disagrees based on comments they have actively made of me

i dont think i have yet been accused of FOLLOWING thread sentiment.. following /working surely is the same meaning?
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 13 2024 10:02 GMT
#3884
On June 13 2024 19:01 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2024 18:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 13 2024 18:47 Mocsta wrote:
On June 13 2024 18:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 13 2024 18:42 Mocsta wrote:
to me, you can only be mafia if dmb is mafia

explain pls.

dude. its already there, i gave 2 specific scenarios that only unlock based on dmb because dmb was the counter wagon

i know you read good too, what is this?

If i get it right what you are saying, you think there is a chance that mafia!rayn went to fuck up mafia!sandroba because there was a wagon on mafia!dmb? That's your interpretaion?
hmmm, i dont think so?

i'm saying the mafia!rayn is a good player and recognises the preferred outcome is always to mislynch than bus

so why bus?

theres only 2 scenarios i value; both contingent on DMB being mafia.. thus, both wagons are mafia, and there is not insufficient thread control to push onto mislynch

scenario 1 = Sandro goon, DMB power.. mafia decide to prioritise keeping the power role

scenario 2 = Sandro notified of AFK.. rayn decides to bus.. because DMB is a counter wagon, is forced to commit to the bus and ride the cred

i genuinely believe mafia!rayn hops of the bus at some point if DMB is town

is this breakdown actaully diffferent to what i wrote before? to me its the same thing with more words? thats a real question

you know i voted, and advocated sandroba lynch BEFORE dmb became a wagon?
Everyone was on Vivax when i voted and advocated sandroba lynch.
Everyone at the time was saying sandroba is town.

Why do you lie about me?
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Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
June 13 2024 10:06 GMT
#3885
tbh rayn. half the shit you say i dont have a clue what you mean

even from way back

its very processed, nuanced conclusions. and i just cant fill the gaps to reach or follow the points you make

sorta like a chess player talking about optimum moves at a GM level. you just see the game differently and rule out a lot of mechanisms to even get close to the relevance/essence.

now you being you are going to throw that back at me and say why havent i queried

well fuckn, i have been focused elsewhere
and you have 20 pages of 20 posts i would have to query.. stAAWWWP IT!

not gunna happen unless i have to
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 13 2024 10:07 GMT
#3886
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Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
June 13 2024 10:08 GMT
#3887
On June 13 2024 19:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2024 19:01 Mocsta wrote:
On June 13 2024 18:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 13 2024 18:47 Mocsta wrote:
On June 13 2024 18:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 13 2024 18:42 Mocsta wrote:
to me, you can only be mafia if dmb is mafia

explain pls.

dude. its already there, i gave 2 specific scenarios that only unlock based on dmb because dmb was the counter wagon

i know you read good too, what is this?

If i get it right what you are saying, you think there is a chance that mafia!rayn went to fuck up mafia!sandroba because there was a wagon on mafia!dmb? That's your interpretaion?
hmmm, i dont think so?

i'm saying the mafia!rayn is a good player and recognises the preferred outcome is always to mislynch than bus

so why bus?

theres only 2 scenarios i value; both contingent on DMB being mafia.. thus, both wagons are mafia, and there is not insufficient thread control to push onto mislynch

scenario 1 = Sandro goon, DMB power.. mafia decide to prioritise keeping the power role

scenario 2 = Sandro notified of AFK.. rayn decides to bus.. because DMB is a counter wagon, is forced to commit to the bus and ride the cred

i genuinely believe mafia!rayn hops of the bus at some point if DMB is town

is this breakdown actaully diffferent to what i wrote before? to me its the same thing with more words? thats a real question

you know i voted, and advocated sandroba lynch BEFORE dmb became a wagon?
Everyone was on Vivax when i voted and advocated sandroba lynch.
Everyone at the time was saying sandroba is town.

Why do you lie about me?
yo're really misinterpretting this

im commenting on the 1 in 9 chance that you specifically asked me to talk about

i have said repeatedly, this is not my frame for talking to you. *i dont believe this is the case*

like wtf is this?
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 13 2024 10:09 GMT
#3888
https://tl.net/forum/mafia/626711-sweet-summer-vote-thread?page=3#41

why are you telling me i "had to bus"?
Sure there should be some other reasoning behind it, than what the vote thread says.
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Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
June 13 2024 10:12 GMT
#3889
On June 11 2024 02:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Sandrobas reads do not track. He just took the town consensus scumreads and put them in a list.

That in itself isnt wrong, but he has just talked anout how oats can be scum if rsoultin is scum, then rsoultin (koshi) is scum, but oats is not on the list.

Also case on rsoul being mafia is basically "i cant find reasons for her to be mafia"?????
is this the post you mean

theres such a lag between votes. i've never looked at this as momentously as you did

to be fair. i have never understood this point

ithis is an example of what i meant i said to trfel i wanted to find a sandroba case i could understand
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
June 13 2024 10:15 GMT
#3890
On June 13 2024 19:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
https://tl.net/forum/mafia/626711-sweet-summer-vote-thread?page=3#41

why are you telling me i "had to bus"?
Sure there should be some other reasoning behind it, than what the vote thread says.
i dont understand man

im saying you are town, and if dmb flips mafia there is a consideration i have to go through

i really dont get what your problem is

you're hanging up on something that doesnt matter today at all? and is unlikely to matter

lets say DMB flips mafia.. well. we actually have real interactions now, so i can replace associations with that and see

i dont know. its why i call it a consideration

im going to have dinner

chill out. i hope on a re-read you realise where im coming from. town dude

i coloured you green
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 13 2024 10:18 GMT
#3891
i dont care why you think i voted for sandroba.

1) you said "rayn is mafia, one of sandroba/dmb" is mafia, when sandroba flips mafia everything contradicts this statement if you actually believed i am mafia during D2.

2) you seem to be claiming i "had" to bus sandroba based on that i could be mafia with dmb now. Everything that happened contradicts that, because i voted for sandroba before dmbwas even a reliable lynch option, and made it clear i want to lynch sandroba over vivax.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 13 2024 10:18 GMT
#3892
On June 13 2024 19:15 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2024 19:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
https://tl.net/forum/mafia/626711-sweet-summer-vote-thread?page=3#41

why are you telling me i "had to bus"?
Sure there should be some other reasoning behind it, than what the vote thread says.
i dont understand man

im saying you are town, and if dmb flips mafia there is a consideration i have to go through

i really dont get what your problem is

you're hanging up on something that doesnt matter today at all? and is unlikely to matter

lets say DMB flips mafia.. well. we actually have real interactions now, so i can replace associations with that and see

i dont know. its why i call it a consideration

im going to have dinner

chill out. i hope on a re-read you realise where im coming from. town dude

i coloured you green

I dont care if you colored me green.
You are contradicting yourself.
table for two on a tv tray
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
June 13 2024 10:19 GMT
#3893
like fuck you rayn

early d2 was an absolute shit show

no one was collaborating. oats refused to work with trfel
trfel shit the bed and became paranoid

who was the glue keeping it together... fuckn me

this i believe

and i did that all to go vote by myself

keep being OMGUS all you want

like. on this specific topic i have nothing more to say

i want to be useful im lost, im willling to be pointed in a direction and discover

now im going back to dinner
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 13 2024 10:19 GMT
#3894
saying "oh that's just a thought that doesnt matter today" doesnt change the fact it is a completely unreasonable thought to have, because it doesnt hold any truth even based on the thread.
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Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
June 13 2024 10:20 GMT
#3895
btw i wrote this without seeing youre contradiction post

i dont care. i dont play the game as 1+1 = 11 as you do
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 13 2024 10:20 GMT
#3896
On June 13 2024 19:19 Mocsta wrote:
no one was collaborating. oats refused to work with trfel
trfel shit the bed and became paranoid

who was the glue keeping it together... fuckn me

............................................

like fucking wow...
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 13 2024 10:21 GMT
#3897
Do you think scott and AZ can be mafia together?
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Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
June 13 2024 10:21 GMT
#3898
further.. you talk about oats being headstrong

again. a big reason he changed his tune is because of me

dont care if you disagree

i cant believe you have sucecssed in agitating me. well done. i will give you that credit

*clap clap*
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 13 2024 10:23 GMT
#3899
On June 13 2024 18:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
People are getting it all wrong, whoever of those sandroba defenders is town.
All keep telling "sandroba was inactive so mafia", but when sandroba was active "wow sandroba so fucking town". All of them are saying that, literally.

Only me and you Koshi, saw that sandroba when active is not town.

Yeah was weird. But all cant be mafia. And one of us 5 is mafia. This is how mafia plays.

Most likely dmb.
I had a good night of sleep.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 13 2024 10:25 GMT
#3900
On June 13 2024 19:23 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2024 18:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
People are getting it all wrong, whoever of those sandroba defenders is town.
All keep telling "sandroba was inactive so mafia", but when sandroba was active "wow sandroba so fucking town". All of them are saying that, literally.

Only me and you Koshi, saw that sandroba when active is not town.

Yeah was weird. But all cant be mafia. And one of us 5 is mafia. This is how mafia plays.

Most likely dmb.

why didnt dmb go on rayn when all she can tell is "fuck i cant read rayn"?
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