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Trfel
7015 Posts
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Trfel
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43269 Posts
Aside from Palmar i am not too much against lynching Chezinu. I dont really think anyone else has a chance of being mafia. | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
Trfel, good day 1, still agree with some of his posts except when he wants to lynch me. Scott, also good day 1 and inoffensive posting. Then you have Chez, who is basically just a wildcard. Finally it's the two people who play have some reason to be mafia. 1) rayn rayn has spent the entire game undermining town efforts. 1. He attacked a pretty NAI scott vs Trfel thing in the beginning. No idea why I even cared about this. 2. Then he attacked me for just calling Trfel town 3. Then he parroted Vivax and Me on Oatsposting (did you roll mafia again?) 4. But he didn't actually vote for Oats or do anything with it for a while kinda semi-talked to him and then kinda joined the wagon. 5. rayn says no way I shoot grack. 6. then makes a case on me. that is just astronomically terrible. His entire case is literally just a complaint that I voted for the mafia instead of the townie when his stupid brain thinks that he can interpret my (very few) words into thoughts that should have made me vote the townie instead of the mafia. Like seriously, go read it, the case boils down to "Based on what Palmar said, I think he's scummy for voting mafia over town". Here... it's actually kind of funny how stupid it is: https://tl.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=28181101 Oh and he added another point against me is that he found it unfair I had a townread on Vivax when his almighty rayn thinks it's impossible for me to have one because apparently he knows how I think. 7. at least stonewalling him made him shut up. For the record. I'm not talking to, answering or acknowledging rayn at all this game. I'll speak with other people if needed. 2) Jealous Jealous spent way too much time arguing about the stupid paintings, and I feel like he did very little else throughout the game. Maybe it's just a result of his kind of stupid post restriction of trying to use only mspaint, which is dumb and anti-town, but doesn't necessarily make him mafia. Problem is, he did vote Oats early and stuck with it. And he voted for the correct reason. Oats was indeed focusing on stupid shit that wasn't going to lead anywhere. Actually, as I write this I might move my vote back from Jealous. and maybe he isn't mafia. I'm just retarded and got annoyed looking at his filter. | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
1) he constructs a model of "expected behavior", which is usually wildly wrong 2) he then compares his model with "actual behavior" 3) finding the discrepancy he goes and attacks it He does this as either alignment which is why it's hard to deal with. Last 2 games he has, both as mafia and town, tried to go after me because he doesn't believe that his model of me is wrong. It's literally just the same thing again. He thinks that I should have thought that Grack was more likely to flip mafia, and is having a tantrum because I voted Oats. He has no idea how or why I reach my conclusions and explaining doesn't help, hence, stonewalling. Remember how insane this is, he's mad that I didn't vote town because his incorrect model predicts I should have. | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
This is serious Chez, if you want to live you need to start being useful, because I'm running out of lynch options. | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
But if we lose this game it's Vivax' fault for costing us a mislynch. Basically the only scenarios where Jealous isn't just mafia based on role interactions are the following: 1) Mafia held or forgot to shoot. This is very, very unlikely. If mafia is checked out, just resign. Also everyone seems to be playing. Maybe they held it to confuse us? 2) Mafia shot Grack. This is possible, but pretty very few scum candidates would've been interested in shooting Grack, knowing he was probably going to be tunneled. The simplest solution is just that Jealous is mafia and shot Grack, and got whatever other random powerup. I honestly don't understand the point on some powerups, wtf is a roleblocker going to do when it's the only role in the game? (sidenote, rayn suggesting I may forget to NK because it's weekend shows how incredibly dumb his model is. That is something I will never, ever do because of how I treat game integrity). | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
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scott31337
United States2979 Posts
On May 14 2024 23:03 Palmar wrote: No Jealous needs to be on the table but it's so damn confusing. But if we lose this game it's Vivax' fault for costing us a mislynch. Basically the only scenarios where Jealous isn't just mafia based on role interactions are the following: 1) Mafia held or forgot to shoot. This is very, very unlikely. If mafia is checked out, just resign. Also everyone seems to be playing. Maybe they held it to confuse us? 2) Mafia shot Grack. This is possible, but pretty very few scum candidates would've been interested in shooting Grack, knowing he was probably going to be tunneled. The simplest solution is just that Jealous is mafia and shot Grack, and got whatever other random powerup. I honestly don't understand the point on some powerups, wtf is a roleblocker going to do when it's the only role in the game? (sidenote, rayn suggesting I may forget to NK because it's weekend shows how incredibly dumb his model is. That is something I will never, ever do because of how I treat game integrity). There's always room to discuss Jealous D3 - but I'm not lynching him today. | ||
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scott31337
United States2979 Posts
So I did not click the link and listen to the song until now - I don't know if any of you have. I would suggest you do though. (Click the C) I'll cut the lyrics though - [Great C] Watch out, I'm stepping in, you know it's true I'm the Great C, I'm here to show you There's creatures hiding in the shadow night With smiles so fake, they pretend to be right Monsters snatching kids out of their beds Devouring dreams where the darkness spreads Bloodsuckers creeping, they on the prowl Are they Jealous, or Great Scott, do tell Caught in the game where the angels fell Who knows our fate, it's a hard sought plan Spin the world in the palm of a hand The Great C's watching, no place to hide In the heart of night, pick a side Oh Great Scott (Great Scott), admit what you've done Unveiled the truth, can't be undone To Grack you went, with mischief in mind With your swift sleight, left shadows behind As the world turns, some deeds come to light Great Scott's actions, once hidden from sight Oh Jealous (Jealous), what secrets you keep In whispers, you wove a spell so deep Sneaking in shadows, Grack's fate you sealed But who's that stranger with the D helm revealed? In the silent gloom, Palmer made his play With cunning moves, he took Grack away Why Palmar, why'd you take him there? Was it envy that poisoned the air? My Great Scott Genius will not be swayed I'll seek justice 'til I've fully repaid You thought you were clever, thought you'd won But this battle's far from being done So I think he's scumreading me - Yes, I planned on lynching Grack D2. Look at the voting. I don't think I need to re-repeat myself there. It's in my filter. Read. Interpret. Unless you are mafia. "Oh Jealous (Jealous), what secrets you keep" There's only one mafia left. Are you thinking Jealous is being insincere with his shot? Now both can't be true you know... "In the silent gloom, Palmer made his play With cunning moves, he took Grack away Why Palmar, why'd you take him there? Was it envy that poisoned the air?" So you think Palmar shot Grack? There's nothing about rayn in the song either. You haven't convinced me anything different or moving my vote - and you cast on three different people - one I know is town, one I'm 98% sure of is town, and town leaning the third. | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12968 Posts
Palmar (2): raynpelikoneet, Trfel Chezinu (2): scott31337, Jealous Jealous (1): Chezinu, No Lynch (1): Palmar raynpelikoneet (0): In , Palmar will be lynched! Friendly reminder also that nights are silent other than having fun with MS Paint pictures. | ||
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scott31337
United States2979 Posts
We have six people We no lynch - there's a shot - we have five (and another townie gone) - (one mislynch) - shot - three people LYLO (gives two chances for town) Six - we mislynch - shot - there's four (one mislynch) shot - then there's two and it's GG - still gives two chances for town) We still only get two chances. Does one have better odds? That part I do not know the numbers. | ||
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Trfel
7015 Posts
If anyone wants to talk let me know, I don't have a ton of new thoughts though. Kinda at a loss. | ||
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scott31337
United States2979 Posts
On May 15 2024 02:14 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Vote Count Palmar (2): raynpelikoneet, Trfel Chezinu (2): scott31337, Jealous Jealous (1): Chezinu, No Lynch (1): Palmar raynpelikoneet (0): In , Palmar will be lynched! Friendly reminder also that nights are silent other than having fun with MS Paint pictures. Trfel - what does this vote count tell you? Palmar has voted everything but Chezinu to save himself. Now that does not say he cannot vote Chez in an hour and 59 minutes - but is this alignment indicative? | ||
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scott31337
United States2979 Posts
But then also you keep asking for people to interact with you and then you do not. | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
On May 15 2024 03:00 scott31337 wrote: Trfel - what does this vote count tell you? Palmar has voted everything but Chezinu to save himself. Now that does not say he cannot vote Chez in an hour and 59 minutes - but is this alignment indicative? Cant vote then. I have a tee time. | ||
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scott31337
United States2979 Posts
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
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scott31337
United States2979 Posts
On May 15 2024 04:37 Palmar wrote: Chez poem just calls everyone mafia Except rayn. He is not mentioned. I forget if Trfel was either. | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
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