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On May 12 2024 02:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2024 15:18 Grackaroni wrote:[....] raynpelikoneet - It seems like he was trying to stir up suspicion between Scott/Trfel at the start of the game by blowing up Trfel's comment into something bigger than it was. Both players are most likely town. On May 10 2024 17:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I'll be honest, my problems with you (trfel) are these:
1) i would expect tou from all people in the game, ve least likely to have a scumread at this piint. Yet you have one, but really dont...
2) see above
3) you dont have a read on me The reasons he lists for suspecting Trfel are not very convincing and I'm not sure that he believes them himself. That's simply just untrue. Of course reads on the first pages are not very convincing, i would be surprised if anyone was really confident in a read like 5 pages into the game, especially when game is slow. I mean, what better reason could someone have for scumreading someone than that Trfel called scott mafia, then backpedaled out of it? Because that's what i read.. If someone calls a post scummy i think they think the post is scummy (which is definition of someone being mafia -- making scummy post(s)). Furthermore i did definitely not stir up suspicion between Scott/Trfel, i clearly laid out my town read on scott, and i also gave room for Trfel to do what he wants to do, because i was not sure of that read after a couple of questions. Why was Trfel clearly town at that point? Because his "read" (which wasnt a read at all) on scott was almost the only thing he had done that time? Show nested quote +And then he also drops two scum reads without feeling compelled to follow up on them at all. On May 10 2024 18:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Plammer the sanke can go to mafia list for now. On May 11 2024 05:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Oats did you roll mafia again? Not characteristic of Rayn's town play. That's actually exactly characteristic of my (especially) town play... In... like.... every... game... ever....
Normally you get super invested in your (imo often weakly based) suspicions and repeat them ad nauseam.
This game you found Scott's first post townie. Trfel found it scummy. You ask Trfel to explain his suspicion of the post. He gives an explanation and you say Trfel may be scum. Trfel obviously wasn't committing hard to scum reading Scott based off that one post, but then you start accusing Trfel of backtracking on his read and say that it's suspicious of him to have a scum read this early in the game.
Your other point for suspecting Trfel seems odd to me as well. You say that you expect Trfel to have a read on you by now. I think I recall you believing Cake slipped in a past game by giving you too easy of a town read. I don't think that you would view your play as transparent enough for Trfel to be able to read through you at the start of the game.
I'm not saying that either were clear town at the time, but at the moment that seems most likely to me.
I'm pretty sure your most consistent method of scum hunting has just been to press and try to figure out who is genuinely interested in pursuing their scum reads, so I don't feel bad about my reasons to suspect you. Throwing out suspicion without follow-up is basically your number 1 red flag.
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On May 11 2024 06:57 Chezinu wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2024 14:12 Oatsmaster wrote:On May 10 2024 12:57 Trfel wrote:On May 10 2024 10:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 10 2024 09:55 Trfel wrote:
Honestly I'm not sure how Jealous gets so much detail in with Paint. With other applications I could see it, but Paint?!
I'll have to come up with a style that works for me. How do you come up with THIS when your top scumread scott is questioned? Why should I care that you said you don't think scott31337 is mafia? You never said why, there is nothing to talk about. Heck, I never said he was mafia, just that I didn't like one post. ![[image loading]](https://i.ibb.co/vmDwq54/IMG-3880.png)
Also is this a scumread on Grack or Oats?
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On May 12 2024 03:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Chezinu i get that you want to lynch Vivax?
Can we get a bit more elaboration on that?
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On May 12 2024 03:44 Grackaroni wrote:
This game you found Scott's first post townie. Trfel found it scummy. You ask Trfel to explain his suspicion of the post. He gives an explanation and you say Trfel may be scum. Trfel obviously wasn't committing hard to scum reading Scott based off that one post, but then you start accusing Trfel of backtracking on his read and say that it's suspicious of him to have a scum read this early in the game.
Yes, let me try to elaborate into that. The point i made about Trfel not doing the "Trfel thing" is because he does that all the time, he says something that is really smart or at least believeable, and then in the next sentence he doubts himself about that. What pinged me is that he actually had a real clear "read" (on scott) at that point. If Trfels post was:
"Scott made a scummy post but i dont actually know if it makes him mafia.  ", that would be 100% town Trfel. Now i dont know if backpedaling from the post AFTER the post in itself (if that makes sense?) is scummy for Trfel, but i thought it MIGHT be. because it's not the MO i expect from him.
Your other point for suspecting Trfel seems odd to me as well. You say that you expect Trfel to have a read on you by now. I think I recall you believing Cake slipped in a past game by giving you too easy of a town read. I don't think that you would view your play as transparent enough for Trfel to be able to read through you at the start of the game.
Trfel had a good read on me last couple of games, actually last game he was basically the only one (not in QT's) to have a clear town read on me, and he was really proud of it in the obs after i died, or at least i got that impression of it.
I'm not saying that either were clear town at the time, but at the moment that seems most likely to me.
I'm pretty sure your most consistent method of scum hunting has just been to press and try to figure out who is genuinely interested in pursuing their scum reads, so I don't feel bad about my reasons to suspect you. Throwing out suspicion without follow-up is basically your number 1 red flag.
That would be correct 10 years ago, that would be correct if i have "all the time in the world".
That's not correct any more.
Why does not anyone agree with you on that point? Why does not anyone tell you "Grack you have a good point on rayn there"?
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Who is this sickle guy Chez?
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On May 12 2024 03:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Who is this sickle guy Chez?
I think it's being used to kill Oats
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Okay that might make sense.
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Grack can you show me a game where i did throw out suspicion without follow-up as mafia?
No need for posts or anything, just a game.
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On May 12 2024 03:54 Grackaroni wrote:I think it's being used to kill Oats
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Vote Count
Oatsmaster (5):Jealous, Trfel, Palmar, Vivax, Chezinu, scott31337
Grackaroni (1) scott31337, Oatsmaster, Trfel
Scott31337 (1): Oatsmaster, Vivax
Not voted (2): Grackaroni, raynpelikoneet
In , Oatsmaster is currently heading for the noose!
Please make sure to vote in the voting thread here.
Friendly reminder also that nights are silent other than having fun with MS Paint pictures.
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Oats now would be a good time to come up with something really townie, in case youre town...
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On May 12 2024 03:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Grack can you show me a game where i did throw out suspicion without follow-up as mafia?
No need for posts or anything, just a game.
I think the more important question is just why you think Oats/Palmar have been scummy.
My read wasn't intended as a meta-read.
I'm a bit iffy on voting Oats because he put himself up as the main lynch target by making a lot of abrasive useless comments and he showed that he can be way better at looking townie if he puts his mind to it like in the last game. It feels pretty similar to why people wanted to lynch me.
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On May 12 2024 03:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2024 03:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 12 2024 03:26 Oatsmaster wrote:On May 12 2024 02:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 12 2024 02:44 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Vivax has received a warning for, well, the ranting. Please keep your comments related to the game, to other players, and/or humorous.On May 12 2024 02:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also is the deadline in 1,5 hours or 2,5 hours? DST fucks me over a lot in these games. It's in . Thank you, then i still have time. Currently i am leaning on voting for Oats, for reasons: He makes those snipy comments on things, like Trfel said, which IS basically his MO as town. I don't really see what he's trying to achieve with that here tbh, i dont know what his reads are, hell i dont even know why he is voting for scott rn? I don’t like how he went around with saying I’m scummy for not contributing then weakly backpedaling it after I pressed him about it. His reasons for voting for grack were also weak and after grack made his most substantial post in the game. Let me see if i agree what you say about backpedaling after i smoke. yeah i dont think i see any backpedaling here... Why do you want to lynch scott, Oats?
You don’t see the typical mafia vote because no content into oh okay actually content unvote?
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On May 12 2024 04:11 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2024 03:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Grack can you show me a game where i did throw out suspicion without follow-up as mafia?
No need for posts or anything, just a game. I think the more important question is just why you think Oats/Palmar have been scummy. My read wasn't intended as a meta-read. I'm a bit iffy on voting Oats because he put himself up as the main lynch target by making a lot of abrasive useless comments and he showed that he can be way better at looking townie if he puts his mind to it like in the last game. It feels pretty similar to why people wanted to lynch me.
I think Oats is mafia because he hasn't said anything smart. Now that in itself isnt necessarily scummy, but i dont think he has come up with any reasonable read this D1, hell i dont even know why he thinks scott is mafia. For instance the mafiascum game (while i had not played with Oats in last 10 years or so!!!!) he was pretty clear town just for the comments and follow ups he made. This game no, not at all.
Palmar because i dont know why he liked Vivax at that point. Other stuff i could understand, his Vivax read i could not.
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On May 12 2024 04:14 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2024 03:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 12 2024 03:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 12 2024 03:26 Oatsmaster wrote:On May 12 2024 02:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 12 2024 02:44 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Vivax has received a warning for, well, the ranting. Please keep your comments related to the game, to other players, and/or humorous.On May 12 2024 02:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also is the deadline in 1,5 hours or 2,5 hours? DST fucks me over a lot in these games. It's in . Thank you, then i still have time. Currently i am leaning on voting for Oats, for reasons: He makes those snipy comments on things, like Trfel said, which IS basically his MO as town. I don't really see what he's trying to achieve with that here tbh, i dont know what his reads are, hell i dont even know why he is voting for scott rn? I don’t like how he went around with saying I’m scummy for not contributing then weakly backpedaling it after I pressed him about it. His reasons for voting for grack were also weak and after grack made his most substantial post in the game. Let me see if i agree what you say about backpedaling after i smoke. yeah i dont think i see any backpedaling here... Why do you want to lynch scott, Oats? You don’t see the typical mafia vote because no content into oh okay actually content unvote?
I am sorry but no, i dont see that
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Who would you say is the other mafia besides Scott, Oats?
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On May 12 2024 04:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Who would you say is the other mafia besides Scott, Oats?
In palmar, trfel, chez atm
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Can you give some reasons for those to be mafia?
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