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On March 08 2024 07:08 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2024 06:44 Jealous wrote:On March 08 2024 06:27 Koshi wrote: I still think we shouldnt lynch Oats. Rels/MZ/VE maybe Palmar are all better lynches. They didnt care during night. Dont care now.
MZ just tried to be relevant today dancing with me but it isnt real scumhunting.
I also havent done anything but you know... most think I am town because I am pretty townie overall.
Rels MZ VE Jacob Palmar On March 08 2024 06:28 Koshi wrote: TTS is not a good lynch today. I have been disappointed by townies and this could just be that.
DP can shoot him. On March 08 2024 06:30 Koshi wrote: Oh there is also dmb. Bwaa she can stay alive. We let our Mayor handle that down the line. On March 08 2024 06:31 Koshi wrote: Oh wait. Jacob claimed gunsmith right. Ok. So swap Jacob with dmb then.
What a weird progression Jacob took on me. On March 08 2024 06:32 Koshi wrote:On March 08 2024 06:30 iamperfection wrote: Did you see my point about his comeback post. No I didnt read from my last post during night to when I came back yet. I think I saw something you wrote but I forgot. You also misses the part where Jacob claimed gunsmith. If Koshi is a clown, you both are a circus. Where did I miss it?
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On March 08 2024 07:09 Vivax wrote: Also don‘t post clowns. Someone here has a phobia. Should have mentioned it before maybe. Not me though, I have to look into the mirror before going to work. Shit, sorry.
Can I get one-time permission to edit the image out of my post?
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Or I guess delete the upload because others have quoted it.
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On March 08 2024 07:27 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2024 07:26 Jealous wrote:On March 08 2024 07:09 Vivax wrote: Also don‘t post clowns. Someone here has a phobia. Should have mentioned it before maybe. Not me though, I have to look into the mirror before going to work. Shit, sorry. Can I get one-time permission to edit the image out of my post? He was making a joke you goof. Oh, I got the joke, I thought the premise was real though lol
Better safe than sorry you know?
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On March 08 2024 07:26 Jealous wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2024 07:08 Vivax wrote:On March 08 2024 06:44 Jealous wrote:On March 08 2024 06:27 Koshi wrote: I still think we shouldnt lynch Oats. Rels/MZ/VE maybe Palmar are all better lynches. They didnt care during night. Dont care now.
MZ just tried to be relevant today dancing with me but it isnt real scumhunting.
I also havent done anything but you know... most think I am town because I am pretty townie overall.
Rels MZ VE Jacob Palmar On March 08 2024 06:28 Koshi wrote: TTS is not a good lynch today. I have been disappointed by townies and this could just be that.
DP can shoot him. On March 08 2024 06:30 Koshi wrote: Oh there is also dmb. Bwaa she can stay alive. We let our Mayor handle that down the line. On March 08 2024 06:31 Koshi wrote: Oh wait. Jacob claimed gunsmith right. Ok. So swap Jacob with dmb then.
What a weird progression Jacob took on me. On March 08 2024 06:32 Koshi wrote:On March 08 2024 06:30 iamperfection wrote: Did you see my point about his comeback post. No I didnt read from my last post during night to when I came back yet. I think I saw something you wrote but I forgot. You also misses the part where Jacob claimed gunsmith. If Koshi is a clown, you both are a circus. Where did I miss it? This is still misrep or at best you are confusing me with someone else if you don't point out where I made this error @Vivax, IMO.
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Has this become a competition for who can look like the worst player in the game or...?
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On March 08 2024 09:08 die_meatbaby wrote:I don't care whats on page 220 but i will not read anything from that page  thanks to who ever that was My bad on that. Was not informed, and frankly it fit kinda perfect. I already posted a mod question to see if I can be allowed to delete the upload link. I will update you if I get permission to remove it.
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On March 08 2024 09:22 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2024 09:10 marvellosity wrote:On March 08 2024 09:09 DarthPunk wrote:On March 08 2024 09:08 marvellosity wrote: Has Vivax apologised for ruining the elite ‘elect a hidden blue to mayor’ plan that the d1 masons had?
Because it is literally all his fault it didn’t work. He voted for you so I am guessing not. In the politest way possible. Fuck you Vivax for ruining an amazing town plan.  The vote I don’t care about, it’s silly. I‘m honestly paranoid that DP attempts to block my scumreads so often. Especially if you and Jealous are really town. He keeps you on your feet as town but he‘s trying to be a moderator too hard here imo. I liked your response here anyway. Can you explain what my involvement is here in your reasoning? I don't follow.
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On March 08 2024 09:33 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2024 09:31 Jealous wrote:On March 08 2024 09:22 Vivax wrote:On March 08 2024 09:10 marvellosity wrote:On March 08 2024 09:09 DarthPunk wrote:On March 08 2024 09:08 marvellosity wrote: Has Vivax apologised for ruining the elite ‘elect a hidden blue to mayor’ plan that the d1 masons had?
Because it is literally all his fault it didn’t work. He voted for you so I am guessing not. In the politest way possible. Fuck you Vivax for ruining an amazing town plan.  The vote I don’t care about, it’s silly. I‘m honestly paranoid that DP attempts to block my scumreads so often. Especially if you and Jealous are really town. He keeps you on your feet as town but he‘s trying to be a moderator too hard here imo. I liked your response here anyway. Can you explain what my involvement is here in your reasoning? I don't follow. He defended you during the night phase and struggled to agree that it was a valid argument. If you are town you should be suspicious of him. Would you happen to have a link to that or remember a key word I can easily search for? Phone posting ATM and would prefer to not be doomscrolling 40 pages blindly. Definitely want to take a second look at what you're seeing though.
That reminds me, I got back to you about that Rayn x Palmar thing you wanted me to look into. What were your thoughts on the matter? Have those thoughts changed since the Rayn NK?
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On March 08 2024 09:54 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2024 09:51 Jealous wrote:On March 08 2024 09:33 Vivax wrote:On March 08 2024 09:31 Jealous wrote:On March 08 2024 09:22 Vivax wrote:On March 08 2024 09:10 marvellosity wrote:On March 08 2024 09:09 DarthPunk wrote:On March 08 2024 09:08 marvellosity wrote: Has Vivax apologised for ruining the elite ‘elect a hidden blue to mayor’ plan that the d1 masons had?
Because it is literally all his fault it didn’t work. He voted for you so I am guessing not. In the politest way possible. Fuck you Vivax for ruining an amazing town plan.  The vote I don’t care about, it’s silly. I‘m honestly paranoid that DP attempts to block my scumreads so often. Especially if you and Jealous are really town. He keeps you on your feet as town but he‘s trying to be a moderator too hard here imo. I liked your response here anyway. Can you explain what my involvement is here in your reasoning? I don't follow. He defended you during the night phase and struggled to agree that it was a valid argument. If you are town you should be suspicious of him. Would you happen to have a link to that or remember a key word I can easily search for? Phone posting ATM and would prefer to not be doomscrolling 40 pages blindly. Definitely want to take a second look at what you're seeing though. That reminds me, I got back to you about that Rayn x Palmar thing you wanted me to look into. What were your thoughts on the matter? Have those thoughts changed since the Rayn NK? Before end of N1 when I said you were caught because you cleared Jat but not copcake. That thing. Palmar was calling rayn mafia could be wrong could be him trolling or maybe it was red blue blindness. Not reading too much into it atm because the association got cleared with rayn dying.
Thanks, found it:
https://tl.net/forum/mafia/621454-a-classy-game-of-mafia?page=183#3654
Yea, I can see what you mean. It's funny because he basically uses the same logic to put me in his "neutral but most likely to be scum" pile for "pocketing and defending him" at the end of N1.
It's not enough to counteract my TR atm but I'll keep it in mind going forward. Good call-out.
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On March 08 2024 10:35 iamperfection wrote:Just organizing my thoughts VEIf you look at a lot of his posts he has no real opinions and goes in to general mafia guidance mode such as saying mafia would do this or probably act like this but not attaching it to any player. Makes promises of providing more content but never really does. He even complains that he wont have meaningful read until a flip happens. Well there have been several flips and claims and still he has not provided anything meaningful VE is old school scum where he just keeps making promises and does just enough posting to try and survive. He has no interest in figuring out the game and who is mafia because he is mafia. TTSYes i have had some fear of possible lynch bait but the word choice he has used looks like a blatant act to me. Show nested quote +On March 07 2024 18:20 ToTheStars wrote: DP and Vivax what are your reads?
All I remember of Day 1 is that I was townreading you two, maybe rayn, also alakaslam. And scumreading trfel but I think they flipped town? I think they flipped town? like come on nobody would talk like that its clearly an act. Show nested quote +On March 08 2024 08:09 ToTheStars wrote: I saw that there was a guilty on Oats? Who claimed the guilty? He was aware that there was a check but somehow also dosnt know who claimed. A town member would go look i think he is blatantly trying to look like a noob so we dont lynch him. PalmarI feel like he is hiding behind the "way" he plays in order to just make useless posts in attempt to show actvivity with no real meaning behind them. He avoided all possible content that would give reads because he isnt really looking for that. He heavily ignored the whisper mechanic and seems perplexed about even though an unconfirmed mason is absolutely a role palmar would be aware which is what this basically is. If you look at his content he basically tunneled rayn and refused any evidence to try and figure out rayns alignment. He has a list post with no reasoning probably because he found it too hard to get real ones. He constantly has posts were he could give an opinion but simply doesn't. Palmar is not trying to catch mafia because he is mafia. This is a good post IMO. This is why I like iamperfect in this game.
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On March 08 2024 10:47 CopCake wrote: You can do it during the day, but after I flip town
DP mafia, always.
He is literally too obsessed with me, nipticking me ( i said the dmb thing from vivax recent list), says i am super mafia but starts wagons on tfrel and jat.
Check palmar, DP, VE
I honestly think rels and koshi are town, rels for tone and koshi for actions.
I know we don't like how the other posts/plays/writes very much but I want to ask that we both put that aside for now just to give you an outside POV on the situation.
I've been scum reading you from the start and attacking positions you've taken but I don't remember the last thing you said about me that could be considered an in-game read or analysis or anything. Yet DP dominates your rhetoric when you're not making 10 posts to get to the bottom of an in-game mechanic, arguing with rayn during N1, or posting fluff.
As for DP, he has spread himself pretty well IMO, talking to a lot of people, about a lot of people.
Have you both talked to, at, about one another more than most duos in the game? Yeah for sure. But is it entirely out of the norm or is it unilateral? Definitely not.
So, I too am puzzled where you are getting this mindset from that you are excessively targeted, or why you respond so defensively to him and not others.
In general I think overly defensive play is a scum tell. I think overly defensive people do exist though - I tend to be one of them and have been misread for it in the past. However, I don't know how to interpret selectively overly defensive people, besides that maybe it's NAI and something that has built up over time beyond the confines of this game.
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On March 08 2024 10:50 JacobStrangelove wrote: Also while big mad not super mad dp claimed for no reason because at least it means I'm safe while least active. I do think it is important to remember this, though. I did bring it up to DP in the Mason chat and they reiterated that yea, it looks pretty damn bad for them.
For a brief while I almost entertained that section of my super duper fantasy mafia play (where you, DP, Slam, Vivax, etc. are all mafia, but in this case just you and DP) and that you are both just scum and use this to clear each other and DP shoots an inactive townie and just goes "oops" lol. Obviously this is insanely ballsy, dangerous, and unlikely so I put it away pretty quick. But, the exercise reminded me how dumb it was to claim in the first place, so I wanted to make sure we do remember this as time goes on.
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On March 08 2024 10:57 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: You can't all be scum, some of you just have to be dumb. The tricky part is figuring out which is which. Kinda where I'm at, but I'm also thinking it might be smart!town throwing some seeds out there to see who shows up to pick at them. I kinda feel like Koshi and Vivac would generally be too smart to do something so stupid without a reason.
Feel like it's been a few hours and beers in me by now so I feel comfortable saying that the bait would already be getting moldy, so no harm in my outing my suspicions that some of these baby wagon attempts are just that: little experiments to see who reacts how.
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On March 08 2024 11:07 CopCake wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2024 10:57 Jealous wrote:On March 08 2024 10:47 CopCake wrote: You can do it during the day, but after I flip town
DP mafia, always.
He is literally too obsessed with me, nipticking me ( i said the dmb thing from vivax recent list), says i am super mafia but starts wagons on tfrel and jat.
Check palmar, DP, VE
I honestly think rels and koshi are town, rels for tone and koshi for actions.
I know we don't like how the other posts/plays/writes very much but I want to ask that we both put that aside for now just to give you an outside POV on the situation. I've been scum reading you from the start and attacking positions you've taken but I don't remember the last thing you said about me that could be considered an in-game read or analysis or anything. Yet DP dominates your rhetoric when you're not making 10 posts to get to the bottom of an in-game mechanic, arguing with rayn during N1, or posting fluff. As for DP, he has spread himself pretty well IMO, talking to a lot of people, about a lot of people. Have you both talked to, at, about one another more than most duos in the game? Yeah for sure. But is it entirely out of the norm or is it unilateral? Definitely not. So, I too am puzzled where you are getting this mindset from that you are excessively targeted, or why you respond so defensively to him and not others. In general I think overly defensive play is a scum tell. I think overly defensive people do exist though - I tend to be one of them and have been misread for it in the past. However, I don't know how to interpret selectively overly defensive people, besides that maybe it's NAI and something that has built up over time beyond the confines of this game. People can call me mafia, is ok. But DP is over doing it, I think I have talked about other people and not just him. People need to filter him and notice how he is like “hey cake didnt put a dot at the end of her sentence, she is mafia” RN, this is getting to a point I just want to out the game because to me it feels he only exists to make me “mad” on the thread, so I go all “crazy”, sound scummy and lynch me. I respected how he got me last game with my TMI but here… Thanks for engaging with my post in a genuine manner 🙏 I really do believe that you truly feel this way.
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On March 08 2024 12:17 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2024 12:06 Vivax wrote:On March 08 2024 12:03 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 08 2024 07:43 Vivax wrote: Marv is mafia, anyway.
He should be here dumping everything they discussed before his masons got killed, and taking control and he isn‘t doing either.
I‘d lynch him before Oats.
##Vote marvellosity How serious are you about this vote? I think 4 mafia were on Trfel now. Marv can wait My vote is on jat. What has pushed JAT ahead of Marv in your eyes? I finally did a decent read of JAT and I think I know why youve got some of the reads the way they are i dont think you're 100% right but I might be understanding someo f your thought process Could you elaborate with examples please? Helps me TR people when people say more than "this is what I believe now because of stuff." Listing quotes and links and stuff. I know you did this before, and this take can use some of that IMO.
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On March 08 2024 12:39 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2024 12:26 Jealous wrote:On March 08 2024 12:17 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 08 2024 12:06 Vivax wrote:On March 08 2024 12:03 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 08 2024 07:43 Vivax wrote: Marv is mafia, anyway.
He should be here dumping everything they discussed before his masons got killed, and taking control and he isn‘t doing either.
I‘d lynch him before Oats.
##Vote marvellosity How serious are you about this vote? I think 4 mafia were on Trfel now. Marv can wait My vote is on jat. What has pushed JAT ahead of Marv in your eyes? I finally did a decent read of JAT and I think I know why youve got some of the reads the way they are i dont think you're 100% right but I might be understanding someo f your thought process Could you elaborate with examples please? Helps me TR people when people say more than "this is what I believe now because of stuff." Listing quotes and links and stuff. I know you did this before, and this take can use some of that IMO. Ok easy, first I have to read it under the assumptions vivax has which is that oats is town. Show nested quote +On March 07 2024 20:52 justanothertownie wrote: I still think Oats is quite towny btw. - also in his reaction to the check. Still 100 % the lynch today but it would not surprise me if he flipped Miller. This kinda stuff now reads like TMI if you assume oats is town. Thinks hes town but still wants to lynch him oh and by the way he might be the miller. Show nested quote +On March 08 2024 05:49 justanothertownie wrote:On March 08 2024 05:46 Oatsmaster wrote: You are bending over backwards, behind and every which way to avoid calling me town jat even though you clearly think so, ridiculous I literally called you towny. That was the last thing I said about your alignment. Again, someone who's not going to be surprised if oats flips town when I first read through these didn't stand out very much, but looking again and trying to think what vivax might be thinkinng I can see where these would stand out. Of course I could be totally off base which is why I asked vivax to explain, I just wanna understand where hes coming from. Don't have time to catch up before I pass out but wanted to thank you for posting these to back up what you're saying.
Overall I think MZ had a strong Day 2 so far because they took strong stances and backed them up with quotes. These stances can backfire later so to take that leap not just here but also earlier is solid work IMO, of own volition when laying low wouldn't have been outside the norm.
OOG PS about Russian stuff: + Show Spoiler +Почему вы выбрали Русский язык как свой <<major>>? Я родился с ним и не мог бы, никогда 😅
For those curious: "Why did you pick Russian as your major? As a native speaker, I would never."
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On March 09 2024 01:56 CopCake wrote: Jelaous is just pretending to care to have reads, complains about people derailing the thread, but he considered “vivax slapping dumb” a very good answer.
I think he doesnt care about reads but just wants to look “good” Okay, I'm now just convinced that you have significant reading comprehension issues, so basically anything you say is NAI. This is just such a horrifically bad take that it can only come as a result of your eyes tricking you into believing you know how to read.
Here are points I was responding to:
Starting a discussion with Dp with my English, his ambition and his never-ending questions get on my nerves. I would never voluntarily start a discussion with him if I didn't have to and the only reason I do it is because he is my main scum read. Being scum was really fun for me and that would take the fun out of it ergo I can not be scum ^ This was included in my quote for context.
I put myself under pressure to start that shit with dp. I know i couldn´t handle that as well as I should so why should I do that as mafia? I knew he gonna give me a lot of pressure more then all the other players would, so again why should I start that and not just take someone easyer do try do lynch and go more with the crowd thoughts. Why even start with the master? I would not be that stupid as mafia ^ This is what I was responding to more specifically.
Here is what I said in response to that:
Okay, now I understand what you were saying before. Thanks for clarifying. I actually kinda like this thought process because at least I get it.
You can tell, because what I am responding to is right above what I wrote. You can see the original post here: https://tl.net/forum/mafia/621454-a-classy-game-of-mafia?page=187#3731
The part about ass slapping, honestly I just ignored it.
CopCake, I know you're only working with what God gave you. But please, when you think that something doesn't make sense or is funny because it's dumb, try to consider if maybe the problem lies within, not without.
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On March 09 2024 02:04 Vivax wrote: Cop sounds more line an ahuyasca shaman at this point than a mafia player Yes, this. Reading tea leaves, as I said before. I'm glad I'm not the only one who sees it. It's just one step removed from AI-generated Race Bannon posting.
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