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On March 18 2024 00:50 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2024 00:49 die_meatbaby wrote:
I really think that the threadleader is scum and thats why we had all this Townwagons... You can feel good on Jealous then because threadleader is trying to save him and I wouldn't exclude he has also written a few posts for him.
yeah like rayn did for me in my last game when I was getting lynched... Feels the same here
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On March 18 2024 00:35 Jealous wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2024 21:00 Palmar wrote:
So looks like I might finally die. I am absolutely not going to be much around today, so here's some thoughts on the state of the game.
My list from townie to scummy goes like this at the moment
Palmar
DarthPunk
Vivax
Iamp
JAT
Rels
MZ
Jealous
DMB
I understand this is yet another revision of what I'm thinking about but I'll give short explanations.
DP is immune to lylo. Have fun wifoming yourselves tomorrow. He's probably town though because he's made a lot of sense. His play has been good but the dude really needs to post less. The game is completely unreadable to the benefit of mafia.
Vivax is what it is. We didn't policy him on day 1, so we just hope he's town.
Iamp should be lower for being an obstinate ass, and having lots of weird takes, but I guess by PoE he needs to be this far up the list. I'm mostly just riding old townie reads on him, and there's also the bit where he occasionally actually spends some time critically thinking about the game and makes good points. Another fun wifom target for tomorrow!
JAT: should be lower as well, but people aren't making this easy. Had to be forced into actually making takes and not just kinda existing in the thread. When the pressure is off he's right back to his pointless commentary on the game and how it's going. But some of his takes were actually pretty good and I'm also pocketed.
MZ: No thread presence at all. MZ writes likeable posts, but he does nothing. I'm not even sure he shouldn't be at the bottom of this just for that, but the guy is just nice. The one thing keeping him out of the doghouse is the fact that he masoned me on day 2. Very risky to do if you're mafia, he doesn't know I'm not gonna engage.
Rels: I really, really hated that take where he ignored his own conclusion from the MZ case to basically call himself town when I flip town. Remember that this isn't true when I flip town. He has absolutely no thread presence, and has been very lightly involved in the game. JAT and Iamp basically get to be as high as they are based on the fact that at least they're taking part in the game. Rels has been correct on everything this game, except his weird tunnel on me all game. He came on really, really strong back on day 1. I remember hating his entrance because he had basically not posted anything at all and then started spewing bunch of bullshit about how I was talking to marv, without ever thinking about just asking marv if it was weird or not. Tip: it was not. Then he just kinda accepted that I didn't give a shit about him or his takes and was happy being a non-factor.
Jealous: Of the people near the bottom of my list, this guy has the most thread presence. He has had a few weird takes throughout the game, the one I noticed the most is the frustration regarding CCs self vote. Essentially he was mad that we were accepting it for what it was. While obviously I was fuming at CCs refusal to play the game, unlike Jealous, I was willing to accept what it actually meant, stupid as it was. I think Jealous is smart, so this was to me a very noticeable discrepancy. Even someone like DP was more in the camp of my reaction, same with iamp. Another thing about Jealous is that despite having higher thread presence than the people above him, he has this playstyle where he kinda barges in with a bunch of takes, and then just leaves. It doesn't feel like he's molding the thread to his reads at all.
Sorry... gotta go, will finish with DMB and some defense of myself later.
This is a scum tell IMO. Mostly because he just absorbed the verbiage I used against DMB just a few pages ago and tried to use it against me. That's not a person formulating their own opinion, it's a person manufacturing an opinion by stringing together words they saw recently. I'm phone posting so not checking filters now but I am fairly sure Palmar has not said the words "barges in" even once this game, but just so happens to do so right after I do? Show nested quote +On March 17 2024 15:51 Jealous wrote:On March 17 2024 12:17 die_meatbaby wrote:On March 17 2024 12:16 Vivax wrote:On March 17 2024 12:14 die_meatbaby wrote:On March 17 2024 12:01 Vivax wrote:On March 17 2024 11:56 die_meatbaby wrote:
lets lynch dp vivax found out everything. Grack told us and we didn´t see it Funny because I think it‘s true. Jacob is the gunsmith dog (Gromit?) being shot with his own gun kinda. Grack snuck a host clue in but it‘d be a dick move to lynch DP for it :D kinda scummy from dp not reacting on the case on him  We can‘t use it unless we want him to go to war with the host would be funny I know this apparently is not on the table right now but I just wanna point out as I save things for tomorrow, isn't this just downright smug from DMB? The person who did nothing in the first 24 hours of this cycle and barges in demanding shit, then just posts more throwaway one-liners outside of pressuring me to provide her with links to games I played 8 years ago? Just wanted to put it out there. It's not in the current lynchpool and I'm already being painted as misogynist so it is what it is, just wanna make it clear that this is not D2 DMB or D3 DMB, etc.
As if I read your post lol
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On March 18 2024 00:50 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2024 00:49 die_meatbaby wrote:
I really think that the threadleader is scum and thats why we had all this Townwagons... You can feel good on Jealous then because threadleader is trying to save him and I wouldn't exclude he has also written a few posts for him.
I can't take anything you say right now seriously. I wake up and this is what I read. So DP is writing Jealous's posts in the scum qt?
Do you honestly believe that? Like take a step back for two minutes before you answer.
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On March 18 2024 00:47 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2024 00:42 Jealous wrote:On March 17 2024 23:34 Vivax wrote:
‚I knew you‘d react this way‘
Yeah cause you‘re leaving alive the scumclaimer who fake dumbtold that he didn‘t know Koshi died.
Or probably he‘s just making everything up How am I a scum claimed? Is that what angers you about the Kool aid post? I thought it was the fact that I didn't lament the lynching of one of the scummiest townies I've ever seen. You think that the random word generation where I said "town is mafia ##lynch me gg" is me scum claiming? You've been grasping at straws from deep within your tunnel for a while but this one boggles my mind beyond measure. Okay cool but what's your first opinion on Rels that comes to your mind?
Not dodging btw (answered above), I just quote and respond as I catch up to the thread.
Which js another point against the "barges in and posts takes and leaves" narrative that Palmar is spinning up. First of all some people show up after being absent for 24 hours and post no takes at all (DMB is a recent example but there are others) which is objectively worse. Second of all everyone sleeps at some point and has to catch up to the thread, if they do their due diligence of course there will be a condensed burst of posting reads about shit that happened while they were asleep.
Objectively bad take from Palmar.
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Dmb is below you on my shitlist jealous so can’t complain about that
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On March 18 2024 00:51 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2024 00:50 Jealous wrote:On March 18 2024 00:39 Vivax wrote:
Jealous what do you think of Rels scumreading TTS first then asking town for a lurker lynch? WIFOM: 1. Day 1 so mostly NAI. Everyone had a mix of good and bad takes D1 and some people might have been lucky on a few of them. Policy lynch was on the menu and it's objectively a good wagon to be on and push. Pushing a scum read you are basing on one day of activity against an objectively good lynch can work against you in the long run if you're town. 2. Rels knows everyone's alignment because he's scum so that's why even his D1 reads were nearly clairvoyant in retrospect. So what's your read on him right now? Do you have one or not?
I'm gonna filter him after breakfast like I promised last night.
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On March 18 2024 00:50 die_meatbaby wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2024 00:48 Vivax wrote:On March 18 2024 00:47 die_meatbaby wrote:On March 18 2024 00:39 Vivax wrote:
Jealous what do you think of Rels scumreading TTS first then asking town for a lurker lynch? So when we would have lynched tts and Rels were the first one scumreading him or just beeing the one who is the reason for lynching scum, then it would have got him Townreads... TTS was useless for mafia. So pushing a lurker lynch would be okey for mafia also scum dp get a shot and using this to shoot useless mafia to get a hell of a Townreads is insane but insane enough for Dp´s mafia meta as well Yeah that's the point he might have written TTS instead of lurker if he really scumread him is it possibole Rels/DP together? who is the third
Do you still think Jealous is scum?
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On March 18 2024 00:51 die_meatbaby wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2024 00:50 Vivax wrote:On March 18 2024 00:49 die_meatbaby wrote:
I really think that the threadleader is scum and thats why we had all this Townwagons... You can feel good on Jealous then because threadleader is trying to save him and I wouldn't exclude he has also written a few posts for him. yeah like rayn did for me in my last game when I was getting lynched... Feels the same here
DP basically gave you a cloak of protection when I tried to push back even a little against the objectively scummy play you've been doing recently, and by your own admission you've been playing bad. If I'm reaping benefits from DP's thread presence, you're getting the whole treasure chest. Be objective and maybe play better?
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On March 18 2024 00:55 Jealous wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2024 00:51 Vivax wrote:On March 18 2024 00:50 Jealous wrote:On March 18 2024 00:39 Vivax wrote:
Jealous what do you think of Rels scumreading TTS first then asking town for a lurker lynch? WIFOM: 1. Day 1 so mostly NAI. Everyone had a mix of good and bad takes D1 and some people might have been lucky on a few of them. Policy lynch was on the menu and it's objectively a good wagon to be on and push. Pushing a scum read you are basing on one day of activity against an objectively good lynch can work against you in the long run if you're town. 2. Rels knows everyone's alignment because he's scum so that's why even his D1 reads were nearly clairvoyant in retrospect. So what's your read on him right now? Do you have one or not? I'm gonna filter him after breakfast like I promised last night.
Okay so you say you are town, but Rels hasn't voted you for two consecutive days and you can't just assume he's town for that?
What now?
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Day Five Vote Count
Jealous (5): Justanothertownie, DarthPunk, Vivax, Palmar, iamperfection, die_meatbaby
Palmar (4): Rels, Meapak_Ziphh, Jealous, DarthPunk
Meapak_Ziphh (0): Jealous
With 5 votes, Jealous is currently set to be lynched!
The deadline is Monday, Mar 18 2:00am GMT (GMT+00:00), which is in
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That'd be my first reaction if I saw that someone doesn't use the opportunity to lynch me.
But you're hedging
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On March 18 2024 00:53 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2024 00:35 Jealous wrote:On March 17 2024 21:00 Palmar wrote:
So looks like I might finally die. I am absolutely not going to be much around today, so here's some thoughts on the state of the game.
My list from townie to scummy goes like this at the moment
Palmar
DarthPunk
Vivax
Iamp
JAT
Rels
MZ
Jealous
DMB
I understand this is yet another revision of what I'm thinking about but I'll give short explanations.
DP is immune to lylo. Have fun wifoming yourselves tomorrow. He's probably town though because he's made a lot of sense. His play has been good but the dude really needs to post less. The game is completely unreadable to the benefit of mafia.
Vivax is what it is. We didn't policy him on day 1, so we just hope he's town.
Iamp should be lower for being an obstinate ass, and having lots of weird takes, but I guess by PoE he needs to be this far up the list. I'm mostly just riding old townie reads on him, and there's also the bit where he occasionally actually spends some time critically thinking about the game and makes good points. Another fun wifom target for tomorrow!
JAT: should be lower as well, but people aren't making this easy. Had to be forced into actually making takes and not just kinda existing in the thread. When the pressure is off he's right back to his pointless commentary on the game and how it's going. But some of his takes were actually pretty good and I'm also pocketed.
MZ: No thread presence at all. MZ writes likeable posts, but he does nothing. I'm not even sure he shouldn't be at the bottom of this just for that, but the guy is just nice. The one thing keeping him out of the doghouse is the fact that he masoned me on day 2. Very risky to do if you're mafia, he doesn't know I'm not gonna engage.
Rels: I really, really hated that take where he ignored his own conclusion from the MZ case to basically call himself town when I flip town. Remember that this isn't true when I flip town. He has absolutely no thread presence, and has been very lightly involved in the game. JAT and Iamp basically get to be as high as they are based on the fact that at least they're taking part in the game. Rels has been correct on everything this game, except his weird tunnel on me all game. He came on really, really strong back on day 1. I remember hating his entrance because he had basically not posted anything at all and then started spewing bunch of bullshit about how I was talking to marv, without ever thinking about just asking marv if it was weird or not. Tip: it was not. Then he just kinda accepted that I didn't give a shit about him or his takes and was happy being a non-factor.
Jealous: Of the people near the bottom of my list, this guy has the most thread presence. He has had a few weird takes throughout the game, the one I noticed the most is the frustration regarding CCs self vote. Essentially he was mad that we were accepting it for what it was. While obviously I was fuming at CCs refusal to play the game, unlike Jealous, I was willing to accept what it actually meant, stupid as it was. I think Jealous is smart, so this was to me a very noticeable discrepancy. Even someone like DP was more in the camp of my reaction, same with iamp. Another thing about Jealous is that despite having higher thread presence than the people above him, he has this playstyle where he kinda barges in with a bunch of takes, and then just leaves. It doesn't feel like he's molding the thread to his reads at all.
Sorry... gotta go, will finish with DMB and some defense of myself later.
This is a scum tell IMO. Mostly because he just absorbed the verbiage I used against DMB just a few pages ago and tried to use it against me. That's not a person formulating their own opinion, it's a person manufacturing an opinion by stringing together words they saw recently. I'm phone posting so not checking filters now but I am fairly sure Palmar has not said the words "barges in" even once this game, but just so happens to do so right after I do? On March 17 2024 15:51 Jealous wrote:On March 17 2024 12:17 die_meatbaby wrote:On March 17 2024 12:16 Vivax wrote:On March 17 2024 12:14 die_meatbaby wrote:On March 17 2024 12:01 Vivax wrote:On March 17 2024 11:56 die_meatbaby wrote:
lets lynch dp vivax found out everything. Grack told us and we didn´t see it Funny because I think it‘s true. Jacob is the gunsmith dog (Gromit?) being shot with his own gun kinda. Grack snuck a host clue in but it‘d be a dick move to lynch DP for it :D kinda scummy from dp not reacting on the case on him We can‘t use it unless we want him to go to war with the host would be funny I know this apparently is not on the table right now but I just wanna point out as I save things for tomorrow, isn't this just downright smug from DMB? The person who did nothing in the first 24 hours of this cycle and barges in demanding shit, then just posts more throwaway one-liners outside of pressuring me to provide her with links to games I played 8 years ago? Just wanted to put it out there. It's not in the current lynchpool and I'm already being painted as misogynist so it is what it is, just wanna make it clear that this is not D2 DMB or D3 DMB, etc. As if I read your post lol
> admits to not reading the game
> makes read posts anyway
What alignment does that sound like?
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On March 16 2024 11:34 Jealous wrote:
Okay so this is where I'm at.
Last Day of Safety
DP, Vivax
Wouldn't lynch over the people below
Iamp, JAT
Need to revisit:
MZ, though this applies to some people below as noted
Lynchable
DMB, Koshi (until further filtering)
More lynchable but this game is hard
... and you played well enough at least tbh
Palmar, Rels
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On March 18 2024 00:57 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2024 00:55 Jealous wrote:On March 18 2024 00:51 Vivax wrote:On March 18 2024 00:50 Jealous wrote:On March 18 2024 00:39 Vivax wrote:
Jealous what do you think of Rels scumreading TTS first then asking town for a lurker lynch? WIFOM: 1. Day 1 so mostly NAI. Everyone had a mix of good and bad takes D1 and some people might have been lucky on a few of them. Policy lynch was on the menu and it's objectively a good wagon to be on and push. Pushing a scum read you are basing on one day of activity against an objectively good lynch can work against you in the long run if you're town. 2. Rels knows everyone's alignment because he's scum so that's why even his D1 reads were nearly clairvoyant in retrospect. So what's your read on him right now? Do you have one or not? I'm gonna filter him after breakfast like I promised last night.
Okay so you say you are town, but Rels hasn't voted you for two consecutive days and you can't just assume he's town for that?What now?
Mathematically I can't because mathematically there has to be town on the wagon lynching me. Assuming that all scum is on me is also just an assumption, in fact it is probably a bad one because scum wouldn't want to vote as a unified bloc if they can avoid it. Furthermore, you maniacs here do shennanies at the last moment which makes vote analysis prior to an outcome basically nonsensical. Look at D3 voting patterns for proof.
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Did Rels do something so townie today or why can't Jealous answer about his read on him for half a dozen posts when he had him as scum previously?
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On March 18 2024 01:01 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2024 11:34 Jealous wrote:
Okay so this is where I'm at.
Last Day of Safety
DP, Vivax
Wouldn't lynch over the people below
Iamp, JAT
Need to revisit:
MZ, though this applies to some people below as noted
Lynchable
DMB, Koshi (until further filtering)
More lynchable but this game is hard
... and you played well enough at least tbh
Palmar, Rels
Next post says I still have to read his filter again, "Need to revisit, though this applies to some people below as noted." And I meant to put the note on Rels and said so right after.
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On March 18 2024 01:03 Jealous wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2024 01:01 Vivax wrote:On March 16 2024 11:34 Jealous wrote:
Okay so this is where I'm at.
Last Day of Safety
DP, Vivax
Wouldn't lynch over the people below
Iamp, JAT
Need to revisit:
MZ, though this applies to some people below as noted
Lynchable
DMB, Koshi (until further filtering)
More lynchable but this game is hard
... and you played well enough at least tbh
Palmar, Rels Next post says I still have to read his filter again, "Need to revisit, though this applies to some people below as noted." And I meant to put the note on Rels and said so right after.
Why revisit? Why did you put him as lynchable in the first place? Can't remember?
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On March 18 2024 01:01 Vivax wrote:
Did Rels do something so townie today or why can't Jealous answer about his read on him for half a dozen posts when he had him as scum previously?
Both scum and town can have issues that keep them from playing the game as much as we might want to but Rels has had a very limited thread presence overall, and it's getting late enough in the game over a sufficient number of days where the possibility that they are just coasting is becoming more and more likely, which is more and more of a scum tell. That's why I have them down there with Palmae and why I have to filter them.
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On March 18 2024 01:04 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2024 01:03 Jealous wrote:On March 18 2024 01:01 Vivax wrote:On March 16 2024 11:34 Jealous wrote:
Okay so this is where I'm at.
Last Day of Safety
DP, Vivax
Wouldn't lynch over the people below
Iamp, JAT
Need to revisit:
MZ, though this applies to some people below as noted
Lynchable
DMB, Koshi (until further filtering)
More lynchable but this game is hard
... and you played well enough at least tbh
Palmar, Rels Next post says I still have to read his filter again, "Need to revisit, though this applies to some people below as noted." And I meant to put the note on Rels and said so right after. Why revisit? Why did you put him as lynchable in the first place? Can't remember?
Answered above.
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On March 18 2024 01:05 Jealous wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2024 01:01 Vivax wrote:
Did Rels do something so townie today or why can't Jealous answer about his read on him for half a dozen posts when he had him as scum previously? Both scum and town can have issues that keep them from playing the game as much as we might want to but Rels has had a very limited thread presence overall, and it's getting late enough in the game over a sufficient number of days where the possibility that they are just coasting is becoming more and more likely, which is more and more of a scum tell. That's why I have them down there with Palmae and why I have to filter them.
If he's coasting why isn't he voting you?
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