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On March 05 2024 02:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2024 02:06 Trfel wrote:On March 05 2024 02:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 05 2024 01:49 Trfel wrote:
I lost track, what do you think about CopCake?
Not sure. I think DP's point #3 in his case is valid. I don't know if Cake's defense on that is townie or not. Sorry, what point is point 3? There were two posts with numbered points and I am not sure which you are referring to. Show nested quote +On March 05 2024 01:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 05 2024 01:26 iamperfection wrote:
I'm also pretty null on dp right now too I think his point on Cake, where Cake is accusing DP of being too quiet when 50% of posts in the game are DP's, is valid. CopCake, do you have any response to this?
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On March 05 2024 04:06 CopCake wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2024 04:04 Vivax wrote:
So maybe I just have to accept the fact that if rayn and iamp are actually town like I had in mind earlier, they prefer to annoy the hell out of you instead of actually finding scum and cause a massive unhelpful distraction that makes me reconsider their alignments.
Either way, not helpful.
I still want to kill Trfel. That's where my head is at.
Going to hedge on sandro.
VE/MZ worth looking into more deeply imo.
But Trfel first. I'm not going to repeat the mistake of trying to kill multples. Nah, if you are against Tfrel you have to cross over me. No one touches him.
Ok, tell me who I should look into then and I'll tell you if I agree.
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On March 05 2024 04:07 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2024 02:35 marvellosity wrote:On March 05 2024 02:34 marvellosity wrote:On March 05 2024 02:34 Vivax wrote:On March 05 2024 02:34 marvellosity wrote:
I’m currently not looking outside my mason partners for mayor. Sandro is scummy though He’s townie. He has pursued me in the chat in a very townie way. Also this is dumb. Good info for when you flip town. But now all this is dumb. Whisperer mafia only need to fight 1 townie. While if he posts in the thread he needs to fight 16. Mason stuff is useless. Keep it to yourselves.
Eh, let them decide. It is far from shitting up the thread.
If that bothers you, you should be shouting me down honestly.
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On March 05 2024 04:08 Koshi wrote:
If you are going to form town circles based on mason chat you can fuck off. I havent read anything but just putting it out there.
Good to know you haven't been reading
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On March 05 2024 03:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Vivax, my point is (as i tend to think other's point is as well);
If you are helping mafia, it doesnt matter to mafia if you are elected as mayor. I understand what you're saying, and yes i can be 100% more certain that i am town than you are, others can't. But i don't understand why we should elect a mayor who is effectively not helping the town, for instance by roleclaiming for no fucking reason... I can understand people thinking as town, that Vivax is 99% town and rayn is maybe 80 or what the fuck ever % town and still best shot at winning the game is electing rayn. I can understand that, and it's not scummy. Like i am considering electing Slam over you, if it comes to that, just because Slam can be reasonable, more likely. Because what i just read over the couple of pages from you does not seem reasonable.
Outside of hypothetical, what % of chance do you think there is that Vivax is scum there?
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On March 05 2024 04:06 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2024 03:27 Rels wrote:On March 05 2024 03:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 05 2024 03:17 Rels wrote:Voting ToTheStars, mainly for his last post. On March 04 2024 20:36 ToTheStars wrote:
I don't think it's fair to say that I posted and then disappeared. I am not going to be playing mafia all day long. Don't expect me to post more than like 5-10 posts per 10-20 pages. Also I am not used to games with over 20 players so I'm likely going to put minimal effort until day 4 or 5, or whenever we get to a more manageable number of players (I'd say 11 living players is when I start really thriving).
I'm a he btw (because I saw somebuddy ask).
And I voted trfel because I didn't like their entrance. It felt a bit off tone-wise, like fake maybe. I am not even close to being convinced they are mafia, but where I come from you use votes to apply pressure, which allows you to develop reads better. I don't really have a grasp on the game right now or on the style of mafia you play here, so 90% of what has been posted so far sounds completely irrelevant to anyone's alignment, and tbh I'm kinda grasping at straws to have any sort of read (and still end up with extremely weak reads). But yes, I am gonna vote my weak scumread because if a wagon starts then I could use the way other players engage with it to start having more reads. I hate the last paragraph in particular. So much words to justify this weak vote. It looks like he's afraid to do something that might be suspicious and is asking permission The rest of his filter is also nothing Would you vote for that if you played in mafiascum? I don't understand the question  how would it change anything? rayn?
Because he is from mafiascum.
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On March 05 2024 04:09 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2024 03:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Vivax, my point is (as i tend to think other's point is as well);
If you are helping mafia, it doesnt matter to mafia if you are elected as mayor. I understand what you're saying, and yes i can be 100% more certain that i am town than you are, others can't. But i don't understand why we should elect a mayor who is effectively not helping the town, for instance by roleclaiming for no fucking reason... I can understand people thinking as town, that Vivax is 99% town and rayn is maybe 80 or what the fuck ever % town and still best shot at winning the game is electing rayn. I can understand that, and it's not scummy. Like i am considering electing Slam over you, if it comes to that, just because Slam can be reasonable, more likely. Because what i just read over the couple of pages from you does not seem reasonable. Outside of hypothetical, what % of chance do you think there is that Vivax is scum there?
0,02%
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On March 05 2024 04:09 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2024 04:08 Koshi wrote:
If you are going to form town circles based on mason chat you can fuck off. I havent read anything but just putting it out there. Good to know you haven't been reading
Kids to bed. Wife going dancing.
I am now taking a shit, will smoke after, then read everything.
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On March 05 2024 04:08 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2024 04:07 Alakaslam wrote:On March 05 2024 04:06 iamperfection wrote:On March 05 2024 04:05 Koshi wrote:On March 05 2024 02:33 marvellosity wrote:On March 05 2024 02:32 iamperfection wrote:
I'm inclined to think vivax has to be town. No scum claims like that. I strongly oppose any effort to make him mayor. He already has shown he willing to throw as town we aren't giving him power. I’m inclined to agree I disagree for what it is worth. The guy who gets lynched as blue regulary now claims it to be mayor. Press x for doubt He didn't have any real pressure on him though Does this not strengthen Koshi's point? No how so.
Isn't Koshi saying he suspects a fake claim from Vivax?
This would be because Vivax is usually very adverse to real claiming,
Which implies this is a gambit for mayor.
If Vivax wasn't under pressure, that is further evidence it was a gambit for mayor.
Where is my comprehension/logic problem?
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On March 05 2024 04:08 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2024 02:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 05 2024 02:06 Trfel wrote:On March 05 2024 02:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 05 2024 01:49 Trfel wrote:
I lost track, what do you think about CopCake?
Not sure. I think DP's point #3 in his case is valid. I don't know if Cake's defense on that is townie or not. Sorry, what point is point 3? There were two posts with numbered points and I am not sure which you are referring to. On March 05 2024 01:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 05 2024 01:26 iamperfection wrote:
I'm also pretty null on dp right now too I think his point on Cake, where Cake is accusing DP of being too quiet when 50% of posts in the game are DP's, is valid. CopCake, do you have any response to this?
She did respond already
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On March 05 2024 04:08 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2024 02:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 05 2024 02:06 Trfel wrote:On March 05 2024 02:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 05 2024 01:49 Trfel wrote:
I lost track, what do you think about CopCake?
Not sure. I think DP's point #3 in his case is valid. I don't know if Cake's defense on that is townie or not. Sorry, what point is point 3? There were two posts with numbered points and I am not sure which you are referring to. On March 05 2024 01:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 05 2024 01:26 iamperfection wrote:
I'm also pretty null on dp right now too I think his point on Cake, where Cake is accusing DP of being too quiet when 50% of posts in the game are DP's, is valid. CopCake, do you have any response to this?
Yes, I said somewhere than quantity is not the same as quality.
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On March 05 2024 04:08 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2024 04:07 Koshi wrote:On March 05 2024 02:35 marvellosity wrote:On March 05 2024 02:34 marvellosity wrote:On March 05 2024 02:34 Vivax wrote:On March 05 2024 02:34 marvellosity wrote:
I’m currently not looking outside my mason partners for mayor. Sandro is scummy though He’s townie. He has pursued me in the chat in a very townie way. Also this is dumb. Good info for when you flip town. But now all this is dumb. Whisperer mafia only need to fight 1 townie. While if he posts in the thread he needs to fight 16. Mason stuff is useless. Keep it to yourselves. Eh, let them decide. It is far from shitting up the thread. If that bothers you, you should be shouting me down honestly.
It bothers me that marv kinda forced the sandroba read on us because "mason stuff". Really bad going forward to approach it like that.
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On March 05 2024 04:11 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2024 04:08 Alakaslam wrote:On March 05 2024 04:07 Koshi wrote:On March 05 2024 02:35 marvellosity wrote:On March 05 2024 02:34 marvellosity wrote:On March 05 2024 02:34 Vivax wrote:On March 05 2024 02:34 marvellosity wrote:
I’m currently not looking outside my mason partners for mayor. Sandro is scummy though He’s townie. He has pursued me in the chat in a very townie way. Also this is dumb. Good info for when you flip town. But now all this is dumb. Whisperer mafia only need to fight 1 townie. While if he posts in the thread he needs to fight 16. Mason stuff is useless. Keep it to yourselves. Eh, let them decide. It is far from shitting up the thread. If that bothers you, you should be shouting me down honestly. It bothers me that marv kinda forced the sandroba read on us because "mason stuff". Really bad going forward to approach it like that.
Ah OK fair point.
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On March 05 2024 04:08 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2024 04:06 CopCake wrote:On March 05 2024 04:04 Vivax wrote:
So maybe I just have to accept the fact that if rayn and iamp are actually town like I had in mind earlier, they prefer to annoy the hell out of you instead of actually finding scum and cause a massive unhelpful distraction that makes me reconsider their alignments.
Either way, not helpful.
I still want to kill Trfel. That's where my head is at.
Going to hedge on sandro.
VE/MZ worth looking into more deeply imo.
But Trfel first. I'm not going to repeat the mistake of trying to kill multples. Nah, if you are against Tfrel you have to cross over me. No one touches him. Ok, tell me who I should look into then and I'll tell you if I agree.
mz
ve, maybe
a no posting person like palmar or hapa
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On March 05 2024 04:10 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2024 04:08 iamperfection wrote:On March 05 2024 04:07 Alakaslam wrote:On March 05 2024 04:06 iamperfection wrote:On March 05 2024 04:05 Koshi wrote:On March 05 2024 02:33 marvellosity wrote:On March 05 2024 02:32 iamperfection wrote:
I'm inclined to think vivax has to be town. No scum claims like that. I strongly oppose any effort to make him mayor. He already has shown he willing to throw as town we aren't giving him power. I’m inclined to agree I disagree for what it is worth. The guy who gets lynched as blue regulary now claims it to be mayor. Press x for doubt He didn't have any real pressure on him though Does this not strengthen Koshi's point? No how so. Isn't Koshi saying he suspects a fake claim from Vivax? This would be because Vivax is usually very adverse to real claiming, Which implies this is a gambit for mayor. If Vivax wasn't under pressure, that is further evidence it was a gambit for mayor. Where is my comprehension/logic problem?
You and Cop are the only ones so far questioning it well knowing I'm a N1 if I don't get the role.
It's a waste of energy on your part.
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He can't force us to read any particular way but I get what you mean. And it's better than valid.
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On March 05 2024 04:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2024 04:06 Rels wrote:On March 05 2024 03:27 Rels wrote:On March 05 2024 03:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 05 2024 03:17 Rels wrote:Voting ToTheStars, mainly for his last post. On March 04 2024 20:36 ToTheStars wrote:
I don't think it's fair to say that I posted and then disappeared. I am not going to be playing mafia all day long. Don't expect me to post more than like 5-10 posts per 10-20 pages. Also I am not used to games with over 20 players so I'm likely going to put minimal effort until day 4 or 5, or whenever we get to a more manageable number of players (I'd say 11 living players is when I start really thriving).
I'm a he btw (because I saw somebuddy ask).
And I voted trfel because I didn't like their entrance. It felt a bit off tone-wise, like fake maybe. I am not even close to being convinced they are mafia, but where I come from you use votes to apply pressure, which allows you to develop reads better. I don't really have a grasp on the game right now or on the style of mafia you play here, so 90% of what has been posted so far sounds completely irrelevant to anyone's alignment, and tbh I'm kinda grasping at straws to have any sort of read (and still end up with extremely weak reads). But yes, I am gonna vote my weak scumread because if a wagon starts then I could use the way other players engage with it to start having more reads. I hate the last paragraph in particular. So much words to justify this weak vote. It looks like he's afraid to do something that might be suspicious and is asking permission The rest of his filter is also nothing Would you vote for that if you played in mafiascum? I don't understand the question how would it change anything? rayn? Because he is from mafiascum.
Yeah I got that, I guess my implied questions were, like, is it a normal post to make in mafiascum or something? Is what I said wrong because of this piece of information?
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Ah sorry I missed it. I thought your response was going to be that DarthPunk had been quiet tonally instead of quantity of posts. Like a lack of aggressiveness as opposed to how many posts he is making.
Will have to think about this.
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On March 05 2024 04:13 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2024 04:10 Alakaslam wrote:On March 05 2024 04:08 iamperfection wrote:On March 05 2024 04:07 Alakaslam wrote:On March 05 2024 04:06 iamperfection wrote:On March 05 2024 04:05 Koshi wrote:On March 05 2024 02:33 marvellosity wrote:On March 05 2024 02:32 iamperfection wrote:
I'm inclined to think vivax has to be town. No scum claims like that. I strongly oppose any effort to make him mayor. He already has shown he willing to throw as town we aren't giving him power. I’m inclined to agree I disagree for what it is worth. The guy who gets lynched as blue regulary now claims it to be mayor. Press x for doubt He didn't have any real pressure on him though Does this not strengthen Koshi's point? No how so. Isn't Koshi saying he suspects a fake claim from Vivax? This would be because Vivax is usually very adverse to real claiming, Which implies this is a gambit for mayor. If Vivax wasn't under pressure, that is further evidence it was a gambit for mayor. Where is my comprehension/logic problem? You and Cop are the only ones so far questioning it well knowing I'm a N1 if I don't get the role. It's a waste of energy on your part.
In the post you quoted, I am referring to Koshi doing just that
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