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On March 17 2024 02:05 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2024 22:54 iamperfection wrote:Mz can you give a full summary of your discord with palmar. How many posts overall were there too. MZ: Hey Palmar I'm leaning town on you so I masoned you to try and solidify that MZ: Can you give more opinions on Marv in the thread bc I read him as town when hes scum and scum when hes town MZ: between you and me do you have any opinions on JAT bc people are reading him as town and I came to a rushed conclusion yesterday MZ: I agree with this post https://tl.net/forum/mafia/621454-a-classy-game-of-mafia?page=168#3344MZ: we're in different time zones, but do you have any thoughts on CC's response to Slam's check Palmar: Do I have to read that Palmar: Wanna claim a blue role to me MZ: Not gonna go full rayn MZ: any read of koshi and his stuff this cycle MZ: disregard Koshi, I let his stuff from the morning bleed into Vivax's posts now, still would love a Marv insight MZ: You're lurking an awful lot this game Palmar: I voted JAT day 1, of course I have suspicions Palmar: I consistently called Koshi town MZ: You are forgettable and recent contributions don't look fantastic MZ: I get you're not keeping up with the thread but damn Palmar: Relax I'm town MZ: I see you voted VE Palmar: Did you like my case on rayn Palmar: Yeah for the lulz MZ: I made a post about the math that I used not working out and I cited you who also posted math MZ: Koshi can be kinda right here MZ: Scum only have to target slams reads list to successfully frame, also might be why slam is alive That's it.
i TOLD YOU TO SUMMARIZE
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i mean from that log mz has to be town right? At the very least they cant be mafia together. Its blatant rule breaking either way.
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On March 17 2024 02:23 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2024 02:07 iamperfection wrote:On March 17 2024 02:05 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 16 2024 22:54 iamperfection wrote:Mz can you give a full summary of your discord with palmar. How many posts overall were there too. MZ: Hey Palmar I'm leaning town on you so I masoned you to try and solidify that MZ: Can you give more opinions on Marv in the thread bc I read him as town when hes scum and scum when hes town MZ: between you and me do you have any opinions on JAT bc people are reading him as town and I came to a rushed conclusion yesterday MZ: I agree with this post https://tl.net/forum/mafia/621454-a-classy-game-of-mafia?page=168#3344MZ: we're in different time zones, but do you have any thoughts on CC's response to Slam's check Palmar: Do I have to read that Palmar: Wanna claim a blue role to me MZ: Not gonna go full rayn MZ: any read of koshi and his stuff this cycle MZ: disregard Koshi, I let his stuff from the morning bleed into Vivax's posts now, still would love a Marv insight MZ: You're lurking an awful lot this game Palmar: I voted JAT day 1, of course I have suspicions Palmar: I consistently called Koshi town MZ: You are forgettable and recent contributions don't look fantastic MZ: I get you're not keeping up with the thread but damn Palmar: Relax I'm town MZ: I see you voted VE Palmar: Did you like my case on rayn Palmar: Yeah for the lulz MZ: I made a post about the math that I used not working out and I cited you who also posted math MZ: Koshi can be kinda right here MZ: Scum only have to target slams reads list to successfully frame, also might be why slam is alive That's it. i TOLD YOU TO SUMMARIZE It is summarized
how is that a summary
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On February 22 2024 14:27 Grackaroni wrote:Setup In addition to the usual roles, I will be adding mason chats into this game. At the start of each day I will randomize 2 players to become the whisperers for the cycle. They will be informed of this via PM. These players may (or may choose not to) PM me the name of one player to obtain a Discord chat with them for the rest of the day/night cycle. You may paraphrase discussions that occur, but you may not copy paste the log into the thread. Once the players reduce to 13 or less there will only be 1 whisperer.
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so your saying all of those lines aren't exact quotes ?
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On March 17 2024 05:06 Vivax wrote:
I think it‘s a case made with the help of scripts or something, maybe some ghostwriters who slave for Jealous.
It‘s still a bit disconnected from the game. There is no emphasis of MZ drunkposting during D2 when I briefly thought it made him 100% mafia. Those would be great to leverage his arguments.
what a giga chad if its not using scripts though.
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Jealous did you read the whole palmar mz mason dynamic going on?
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On March 17 2024 05:36 Jealous wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2024 05:30 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 17 2024 05:29 Jealous wrote:On March 17 2024 05:28 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 17 2024 05:25 Jealous wrote:On March 17 2024 05:16 iamperfection wrote:On March 17 2024 05:06 Vivax wrote:
I think it‘s a case made with the help of scripts or something, maybe some ghostwriters who slave for Jealous.
It‘s still a bit disconnected from the game. There is no emphasis of MZ drunkposting during D2 when I briefly thought it made him 100% mafia. Those would be great to leverage his arguments. what a giga chad if its not using scripts though. I type really fast. On March 17 2024 05:18 iamperfection wrote:
Jealous did you read the whole palmar mz mason dynamic going on? Yea I saw it, honestly I don't think I can find much AI in someone else's mason chats when there are timezone differences, one of them traveling constantly and the other seeming pretty disinterested in the chat and with the concept of masons in general IIRC from Palmar's filter. I did find the point that if they were both scum that they might try harder to make it seem productive/active to be an interesting one, it was a good thought. No guarantee that they would have had that same thought, though. I think focusing on stuff that actually happened in the game (posts, reads, and votes) makes more sense to me overall. So you now think that Palmar and I can't be scum together? Is that what you're saying here? Not sure how you got that from what I said. I think it's possible, because I don't think that the mason chat was AI. Ah so Palmar is still scum, is he your second highest read now after me? Or where has he shuffled out on the list. Yea I'd probably say you are more lynchable than him now for me. Still have to look at Rels, also hoping Palmar and iamp address the fact that they too were on that horrible wagon, iamp being the last vote to stick on VE twice even, though as I said before the fact that the second VE vote was TvT with CopCake makes it overall less egregious IMO. And again, if someone else could do the work of looking into their read progressions on Oats instead of just getting the posters-in-question' self-testimonies, that would be a big help IMO.
if your asking me why i voted ve its because i thought oats was town and ve was scum. I was genuinely impressed with his play after the check. I was confused by all that happened with slam "claiming" for no reason and it apparently being true and mafia just not dealing with it in that case and combine that with Oats going tryhard.
Plus i always liked oats we used to play dota years ago so i was blinded by that too.
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Rels just voted palmar and decided to afk.
DMB chimed in with a lol and nothing else.
This is a critical cycle we need input.
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On March 17 2024 06:32 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2024 06:30 Jealous wrote:On March 17 2024 06:18 Palmar wrote:On March 17 2024 05:48 Jealous wrote:
Overall I'd say that MZ looks more townie in the mason chat alone, though it wouldn't be too hard to fake that and leading off with a TR does feel a little awkward unprompted IMO. Kinda like you're buttering him up, which I think is possible as both SvT and TvS and TvT for that matter, so really goes back to my thinking that it is NAI or WIFOM at best.
Palmar just looks wholly disinterested which I think leans slightly more scummy overall but that is WIFOM too, I imagine scum would in general at least try to look interested. If he truly thinks they are stupid then it's NAI, it would have to be a belief that he has in a vacuum outside of this specific game. I guess if anyone has masoned before with Palmar outside of Slam, now would be a good time to compare that to previous occurrences to see if there is some inconsistency there. And you too. I am very interested in this game. I’m one of like the top 3 players in terms of games played and this may be the longest filter I’ve ever produced. I am very interested in the game. No idea why people feel comfortable pushing the idea I’m not interested or haven’t done stuff. If you wanna push that I’ve been wrong or that I’ve been unsure or flip floppy or whatever that’s fine. But I am absolutely interested This post was about the Mason chat. I think you will agree with me that you looked wholly disinterested there. I don’t see the point in mason chats. Go read last game or even a little exchange I had with Marv this game for confirmation
well according to the log you basically looked for blues and said you were voting for the lolz
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On March 17 2024 06:38 Jealous wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2024 06:32 Palmar wrote:On March 17 2024 06:30 Jealous wrote:On March 17 2024 06:18 Palmar wrote:On March 17 2024 05:48 Jealous wrote:
Overall I'd say that MZ looks more townie in the mason chat alone, though it wouldn't be too hard to fake that and leading off with a TR does feel a little awkward unprompted IMO. Kinda like you're buttering him up, which I think is possible as both SvT and TvS and TvT for that matter, so really goes back to my thinking that it is NAI or WIFOM at best.
Palmar just looks wholly disinterested which I think leans slightly more scummy overall but that is WIFOM too, I imagine scum would in general at least try to look interested. If he truly thinks they are stupid then it's NAI, it would have to be a belief that he has in a vacuum outside of this specific game. I guess if anyone has masoned before with Palmar outside of Slam, now would be a good time to compare that to previous occurrences to see if there is some inconsistency there. And you too. I am very interested in this game. I’m one of like the top 3 players in terms of games played and this may be the longest filter I’ve ever produced. I am very interested in the game. No idea why people feel comfortable pushing the idea I’m not interested or haven’t done stuff. If you wanna push that I’ve been wrong or that I’ve been unsure or flip floppy or whatever that’s fine. But I am absolutely interested This post was about the Mason chat. I think you will agree with me that you looked wholly disinterested there. I don’t see the point in mason chats. Go read last game or even a little exchange I had with Marv this game for confirmation Eh, at least one of your posts would beg to differ. Please see this post I made recently: https://tl.net/forum/mafia/621454-a-classy-game-of-mafia?page=467#9327Could you explain the apparent inconsistency here?
Where is the inconsistency or am i an idiot?
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On March 17 2024 06:48 Vivax wrote:
The hard part is getting iamperfection to vote Jealous he just sees big post and goes into awe and stupor
it had links vivax linksSSSSSSSSSS
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On March 17 2024 07:10 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2024 07:04 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 17 2024 07:03 Palmar wrote:
Being inconsistent and unsure isn’t a mafia trait. Been pretty clear on my lynch pool since late day 4. Brother your lynch pool is the entire game that isn't confirmed town. Like that's not saying much. No this just means you haven’t read my filter. My current lynch pool is you, jealous, real and dmb. That’s like 4 out of 9
you have eliminated me?
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did you read what i said about the day 2 vote count palmar?
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On March 17 2024 07:22 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2024 07:17 Vivax wrote:
MZ keeps saying he wants him lynched but here I am explaining to him why he can't be town Are you talking about Palmar or Jealous? If for some reason Palmar is not a viable lynch at the end of the day I will 100% be voting Jealous, I just think Palmar is much more likely to be scum and also gives us more information on Jealous/Jat/maybe Rels. A scum Palmar will reinforce my sheeping of Koshi's reads and I'll be looking back at JAT as well as Jealous.
Why do you keep saying that. Koshi seemed to finish on you and jealous really from what i see.
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On March 17 2024 08:18 Vivax wrote:
He's repeatedly brought up people just for being wrong on someone. See Koshi in the night.
We can't let a guy win cause he uses scripts to generate post links and iamp believes it's by hand.
chill i got you bro let me cook
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On March 17 2024 09:00 Vivax wrote:
DMB don't let me down.
PLEASE vote this guy with me.
I'll steal the flowers from the terrace if you do.
i got you fam.
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On March 17 2024 09:48 Jealous wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2024 09:42 Vivax wrote:
Bruh I thought deadline was in an hour and almost got a heart attack It's in an hour and twelve minutes.
its a day
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EPT
