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DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
March 12 2024 00:38 GMT
#6961
On March 12 2024 09:36 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2024 15:49 CopCake wrote:
So think about it a little bit Jacob.

If town DP didnt get blocked by mafia is because

1.- two of the three candidates were town

I already countered this yesterday, DP said he was going to shoot most of the game yesterday, not just TTS / you / DMB.
WHY THE FUCK did you go over 50 pages DP, WE CANT FILTER YOU ALL ANYMORE
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2024 12:13 DarthPunk wrote:
yeah slam, wifom only at this point.

Im shooting palmar btw.

Show nested quote +
On March 09 2024 12:20 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 09 2024 12:17 iamperfection wrote:
so wait a sec they cant stop us from getting an action off they would have to choose assuming they have a roleblock.

Vivax jails either Jacob or Slam. If they dont roleblock vivax they risk not getting a kill off on one of them. If they do roleblock dp gets a shot off.


Which is why I am shooting DMB.

Show nested quote +
On March 09 2024 12:39 DarthPunk wrote:
I guess I have to shoot Rels tonight.

Show nested quote +
On March 09 2024 13:03 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 09 2024 12:56 Vivax wrote:
But he could be mafia with VE in which case it‘d have been townier to just switch around instead of autopilot.

Knowing VE‘s alignment would help a lot.


Which is why I am shooting VE.

That's the ones I found just quickly searching for "shoot". Interestingly I didn't find posts on TTS (this one he said for sure at some point, maybe during D2 instead of N2) and you.



Yeah I tried my best to not mention TTS cause it was always gonna be the shot.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 12 2024 00:41 GMT
#6962
On March 11 2024 18:48 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2024 13:02 Rels wrote:
Fuck already midnight. I thought I was only going to play for 30 minutes. I have 2 interviews tomorrow morning ... wish me luck!

Good luck friend.
Hope you get both, and they have to tripple your salary outbidding the other company.

Thanks :D
One went well, the other got rescheduled to tomorrow, I literally have 4 interviews tomorrow now lol
And it's the opposite, I got a dream position right now working for a big tech company, until now it was OK to work from Montréal, but with the stupid return to office policies, I would have to move to a hub like Vancouver or Toronto or Seattle to continue like I am today, or I'll get laid off ... but I don't want to move, so I'm interviewing the few teams that are on Montréal ... not a lot of options so it's make or break!
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10141 Posts
March 12 2024 00:42 GMT
#6963
On March 12 2024 09:41 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2024 18:48 Koshi wrote:
On March 11 2024 13:02 Rels wrote:
Fuck already midnight. I thought I was only going to play for 30 minutes. I have 2 interviews tomorrow morning ... wish me luck!

Good luck friend.
Hope you get both, and they have to tripple your salary outbidding the other company.

Thanks :D
One went well, the other got rescheduled to tomorrow, I literally have 4 interviews tomorrow now lol
And it's the opposite, I got a dream position right now working for a big tech company, until now it was OK to work from Montréal, but with the stupid return to office policies, I would have to move to a hub like Vancouver or Toronto or Seattle to continue like I am today, or I'll get laid off ... but I don't want to move, so I'm interviewing the few teams that are on Montréal ... not a lot of options so it's make or break!

RTO is fucking cancer.

#foreverremote
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 12 2024 00:48 GMT
#6964
On March 11 2024 19:43 VisceraEyes wrote:
First up we have Koshi. At first I had a townread on him for his activity, in spite of saying dumb things like Oats is town. D2 he drops off considerably though, and reacts really strangely to the Oats check. Like, there's confirmation bias, and there's trying desperately to save a mafia teammate. I think we witnessed the second one on Koshi's D2. The smart play there is to lynch the check. Koshi is a smart player. That's what cops are for, to check people you think you trust to find out if you can or not. Not just that, but his TR wasn't even that strong on Oats D1, he kept saying he had to go "reread" Oats to "see if he locked in on someone" or some meta bullshit. He never did that, but continued to scream about not lynching him, the mafia Framer. In that light, the fact that he's both "too confused about the state of the game to make any real reads" and "So certain of our path forward that I don't even have to try anymore" rings massive alarm bells for me.

Verdict: Mafia Koshi

Next up is.....omg it's our esteemed mayor. Please let there be less than 20 pages.

I don't agree that it makes Koshi scum, but maybe not a bad post? Quickly checked the facts at least and it seems to be true
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 12 2024 00:48 GMT
#6965
On March 12 2024 09:42 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2024 09:41 Rels wrote:
On March 11 2024 18:48 Koshi wrote:
On March 11 2024 13:02 Rels wrote:
Fuck already midnight. I thought I was only going to play for 30 minutes. I have 2 interviews tomorrow morning ... wish me luck!

Good luck friend.
Hope you get both, and they have to tripple your salary outbidding the other company.

Thanks :D
One went well, the other got rescheduled to tomorrow, I literally have 4 interviews tomorrow now lol
And it's the opposite, I got a dream position right now working for a big tech company, until now it was OK to work from Montréal, but with the stupid return to office policies, I would have to move to a hub like Vancouver or Toronto or Seattle to continue like I am today, or I'll get laid off ... but I don't want to move, so I'm interviewing the few teams that are on Montréal ... not a lot of options so it's make or break!

RTO is fucking cancer.

#foreverremote

100%
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
March 12 2024 00:49 GMT
#6966
Day Three Vote Count

CopCake (7): Jealous, DarthPunk, iamperfection, Vivax, die_meatbaby, VisceraEyes, CopCake, JacobStrangelove, DarthPunk, iamperfection, CopCake, die_meatbaby, Vivax
VisceraEyes (6): Rels, Justanothertownie, Koshi, Palmar, Vivax, iamperfection, Meapak_Ziphh, DarthPunk, Vivax, VisceraEyes, die_meatbaby, Vivax
Meapak_Ziphh (0): Vivax, Vivax
Palmar (0): VisceraEyes, CopCake
Jealous (0): Vivax
DarthPunk (0): Vivax


With 7 votes, CopCake is currently set to be lynched!

The deadline is Tuesday, Mar 12 2:00am GMT (GMT+00:00), which is in


Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 12 2024 00:49 GMT
#6967
On March 11 2024 20:09 VisceraEyes wrote:
Our mayor Vivax is Town from what I can tell. He's super duper active, he correctly called out Oats D1 which, jeez. If you're not only running for mayor inviting scrutiny upon yourself but you're also calling out your Framer and calling for his death D1 AS MAFIA, Vivax you've got bigger balls than I have ever given you credit for.

The switch to me on D2 feels like a townie reaction to a too easy lynch because of a check. Exacerbated by older heads saying that I'm mafia in the bargain. I don't think it's telling in Vivax case - he doesn't like, say Oats is town or give reasons for wanting to lynch me. I could do without the misogyny, but that doesn't make him mafia.

So cool. The protected guy is town. Yipee. I guess. On to.....*sigh*...Palmar. At least it won't take long?

????
Why do you need to towncase Vivax?
Looks like a "putting some effort into an useless conclusion" post
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 12 2024 01:01 GMT
#6968
On March 11 2024 20:52 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2024 20:12 Palmar wrote:
On March 06 2024 06:47 Palmar wrote:
Btw the wagon on me is so bad.

marv is probably just mafia
jat has literally no reason to think I am, and is probably mafia anyway.
Trfel has literally no reason to think I am
Slam is slam
Koshi has thought I am mafia every game for 10+ years. I think he just enjoys murdering me.

The only standout is DP


Wow, the wagon on me on day 1 was so pure :D

Wasn't it just?

Palmar is almost certainly mafia here. Marv thought so. Rayn thought so. They're both dead to night kills. Palmar as town reviles playing with me, so him wanting me more active in this game bodes poorly for all of you given I'm going out first. He doesn't have fun WITH me, he has fun USING me, and he's salty I haven't given him ammo to do so until now. He voted for me instead of Oats even though he had a town read on me and a scum read on Oats D1. Pretty damning in hindsight, considering Oats was red checked AND was the framer.

His filter is all over the place as you'd expect, but there are some nuggets in there. There's this one post locking koshi as town for calling the framer town on D1. As if that's not something mafia are EXPECTED to do. I'm sure he has some reasonable sounding logic, like towncasing is as bad as mafcasing because it invites scrutiny regardless. But he conveniently refuses to factor in that A) it's Koshi and B) we're all big boys and girls and stuff here.

There's also a tendency to do mafia-ish things in his posts that I probably just dislike in general...but he does stuff like subtly fearmonger and appeal to peoples' insecurities. I've seen him do it as town but it's his bread and butter as mafia.

Palmar is probably Mafia Palmar, and frankly he's probably going to win.

I'm actually stopping here for now guys, I have tabs open with MZ iamp and CopCake filters, I had intended to do them tonight - I had actually intended for these all to be in one post - but when I found 2 mafia in Koshi/Palmar I figured the last one can wait. Especially given one of those people is the counterwagon to me and at this point I actually just WANT CopCake to be mafia so I can say the mafia tried to lynch me all game and couldn't - so I'll probably start with CC tomorrow. I HOPE she's mafia but that would be maybe too easy from my perspective.

Regardless of your Palmar case, I find it very, very weird that you didn't start with CopCake. That's obviously the logical play. I don't know if it's AI but it's bothering me

There's also a tendency to do mafia-ish things in his posts that I probably just dislike in general...but he does stuff like subtly fearmonger and appeal to peoples' insecurities. I've seen him do it as town but it's his bread and butter as mafia.

So it does it as both alignements, yet you use it as a point to make him scum?

Apart from that, very generic case, the only specific example is this:
There's this one post locking koshi as town for calling the framer town on D1. As if that's not something mafia are EXPECTED to do. I'm sure he has some reasonable sounding logic, like towncasing is as bad as mafcasing because it invites scrutiny regardless. But he conveniently refuses to factor in that A) it's Koshi and B) we're all big boys and girls and stuff here.

Very meh. Maybe it's worst in reality, but the way you describe it doesn't make anyone scum. Without you quoting the post, it's hard to know.
On March 09 2024 16:35 Palmar wrote:
So Koshi is probably lock town for his towncase on Oats on day 1.

Guy made a towncase on mafia and attacked me for maybe thinking Oats is scum.

This post right? Seems like a reasonable read to me? Lock town might be a touch strong.
Looking for Koshi I see he expanded his reasonning later:
On March 12 2024 00:00 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2024 23:53 die_meatbaby wrote:
On March 11 2024 23:49 Palmar wrote:
On March 11 2024 23:35 die_meatbaby wrote:
On March 11 2024 23:12 iamperfection wrote:
Palamr ignored the shit show of last night because he is mafia. So I support this. Plus added benefit that marv is wrong which is always nice.

I mean I would not be mad to vote Palmar. It is always a good choice, but either of his aligment he don´t give a fuck about anything and is ignoring stuff and players as well as I saw in the last game

Good analysis.

I only read and talk about stuff I'm interested in.

Speculation on what mafia does is not one of those things. I can't control mafia and I can't know the setup, so I literally do not care about any discussion about it.


Don´t worry right know I prefer to look in the filters from Koshi and Reels at the moment. I'm sceptical about their aligment more then yours.

Koshi is in the tinfoil pile, you should probably not waste much time looking into him because we're not lynching him today.

He is unpredictable, and he thinks I'm town so maybe he's mafia.

But, koshi could not have known I would pussy out of calling Oats mafia, and there was absolutely some serious push towards Oats getting lynched on day 1. This includes Vivax the mayor talking about it. The chances of Koshi making that towncase on Oats as a fellow mafia member is pretty low.

It exists, and if anyone is ballsy enough to pull it off it might actually be koshi, but as I stated, we're not at the state of the game where we need to be lynching people who have objective reasons to call them town, and Koshi is in that category.

Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 12 2024 01:03 GMT
#6969
Oh but looking at timestamps, the latest post is after VE's case.

But, meh case from VE. It hinges on ONE post on Palmar that I don't think makes Palmar anything, and the rest is generic fluff.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 12 2024 01:08 GMT
#6970
On March 12 2024 00:31 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2024 00:29 die_meatbaby wrote:
On March 12 2024 00:27 CopCake wrote:
I wouldnt mind Palmar lynch or Rels lynch, mostly because it would give ME perspectives.

But cake stop with your scenarios.

Cant forgive Tfrel got lynched out of thin air.


But you have do see that Trfl was really good in his last Town game and almost knew the hole mafia team at an early start. I think people fear him as mafia when he plays that good as town.


Exactly, that is what I think.

There was probs mafia about to be lynched and someone pulled the shenanigans of lynch him with JAT.

Idr who was the counterwagon of Palmar, need to recheck but TFREL NEVER FORGET

Hey cake, it was Palmar => JAT > Trfel => maybe shennannies on DMB but never serious => Trfel
With that info, who is the scum that was about to be lynched in your mind?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 12 2024 01:15 GMT
#6971
Mm, I think I like the Cop / DMB back & forth that begins [here](https://tl.net/forum/mafia/621454-a-classy-game-of-mafia?page=332#6630), and finally end up with a new read from Cake ...
On March 12 2024 01:12 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2024 00:58 Vivax wrote:
MZ + Oats votes make a lot of sense if they're both on mafia JAT and teamed with him.
PR votes


I think is the opposite, Oats voted JAT when JAT was not in danger then changed to DMB when JAT was not in danger and then back to JAT when HE was in danger.

Like, he could just fuck off and leave the vote on DMB. It was hard for JAT to catch up Tfrel.

Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 12 2024 01:20 GMT
#6972
Yeah I like it from CopCake perspective ...

DMB doesn't do much though, and the only analysis she does might actualyl be partner indicate:
On March 12 2024 00:47 die_meatbaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2024 00:39 CopCake wrote:
The vote count is not the one vivax posted but post number 67, which is this

On March 06 2024 04:57 Grackaroni wrote:
Day One Vote Count

Mayor

Vivax (10): raynpelikoneet, Rels, Vivax, DarthPunk, die_meatbaby, Koshi, Alakaslam, JacobStrangelove, Meapak_Ziphh, marvellosity, Palmar
raynpelikoneet (2): JacobStrangelove, Alakaslam, raynpelikoneet, Iamperfection, raynpelikoneet
Oatsmaster (1): Oatsmaster
Koshi (1): Koshi, justanothertownie


Not Voting (7): sandroba, Trfel, Jealous, CopCake, Hapahauli, ToTheStars, VisceraEyes

With 10 votes, Vivax is currently set to be elected!

Lynch

Palmar (6) : marvellosity, justanothertownie, Alakaslam, sandroba, DarthPunk, Koshi, raynpelikoneet
ToTheStars (3): Rels, CopCake, JacobStrangelove, Vivax
Justanothertownie (2): sandroba, Palmar
VisceraEyes (1): iamperfection, sandroba, Vivax, Oatsmaster
Oatsmaster (1) : Vivax, VisceraEyes, DarthPunk
JacobStrangelove (1): CopCake, DarthPunk
CopCake (1): Oatsmaster, DarthPunk, Meapak_Ziphh
die_meatbaby (1): Oatsmaster
DarthPunk (0) : raynpelikoneet
iamperfection (0): DarthPunk
Koshi (0) : JacobStrangelove, Oatsmaster, sandroba
raynpelikoneet (0) : DarthPunk
Alakaslam (0) Oatsmaster, CopCake
Vivax (0): Alakaslam

Not Voting(5): Trfel, Jealous, die_meatbaby, Hapahauli, ToTheStars

With 6 votes, Palmar is currently set to be lynched!

Let me know if you see any votes misplaced

The deadline is Wednesday, Mar 06 3:00am GMT (GMT+00:00), which is in





tothestars was obv. mafia but the problem is when we would have lynched him we don´t get any information about his teammates. I liked it better that dp just shoot him instead of wasting time for a lynch. Voting on TTS as mafia would be safe but really voting on a teammate for the first lynch? When there is the chance to lynch a Town out? I doubt that

TTS was not "obv mafia" at the end of D1, he was a regular lurker with one somewhat scummy post. Remembering him as obv mafia EOD1 might mean DMB is a partner
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 12 2024 01:22 GMT
#6973
On March 12 2024 01:48 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2024 01:42 Palmar wrote:
On March 12 2024 01:28 CopCake wrote:
##vote: palmar

Do I dare ask why?


Votes.

You were saved. Oatmaster never dared to put a single vote on you to even look “townier” and most of the votes you had were made by town (rayn, etc)


Another new analysis there ...
I didn't like CopCake yesterday when she was martyring and basically flooding the thread with nonsense that had nothing to do with reads, but I like this
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
March 12 2024 01:26 GMT
#6974
What’s your conclusion Rels? Are we mislynching here?
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 12 2024 01:27 GMT
#6975
On March 12 2024 03:22 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like why would I have ever posted anything when this is what it gets? Literally ignored. I already fucking knew, I shouldn't have even tried. I'm fucking exhausted, work is going to be fucking awful tonight, but I tried. I'm a fucking idiot.

Sorry if you're town, I know the feeling. You should have started at CopCake alignement and go from there ...
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 12 2024 01:29 GMT
#6976
On March 12 2024 10:26 DarthPunk wrote:
What’s your conclusion Rels? Are we mislynching here?

Is Cake leading? If yes, maybe. I hate the OMGUS and the first part of D3, but she always comes back to the thread, and this time she came back with actual new thoughts ...
Will finish catching up and see
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 12 2024 01:31 GMT
#6977
But from where I am in my catching up, VE should 100% be the lynch. The only post I didn't dislike was the Koshi case, but apart from that, textbook scum. Come back with a few big posts at the best time to not waste effort, during the last half of the day. Write cases that sound good but doesn't stand up to scrutiny. Martyr and GTFO
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 12 2024 01:33 GMT
#6978
JAT had the exact same thoughts I have on the 3 VE cases. Probably warrants some townpoints
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 12 2024 01:36 GMT
#6979
On March 12 2024 05:43 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2024 05:40 iamperfection wrote:
I would be fine voting cake


You probably should then.

The resistance to her lynch is insane btw.


Really disagree with this TBH. Anyone would be hard to lynch when compared to VE
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 12 2024 01:39 GMT
#6980
On March 12 2024 06:03 CopCake wrote:
Also is ok if you lynch me, I think VE is town, he could have parked his vote on me and afk but he didnt, he also put effort in reading and I do believe his rage of getting mad because he put EFFORT and got ignored.

If you're town and he isn't, that's exactly why he did this TBH. Easy townpoints
Really disagree that he put effort into his readings - very surface level reads that hinges on a few posts
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