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DarthPunk
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She literally couldn’t reevaluate her reads at all until I literally became confirmed town. Then she just wasted all day talking bullshit about night actions. Also what happened to her imperfection scum read. She calls him scum day one, literally drops it never mentions it again. Does this seem like town to you all? | ||
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CopCake
4378 Posts
PALMAR posts - Calls vivax town - Calls oats scum + Show Spoiler + On March 05 2024 06:18 Palmar wrote: I read like 2 posts of Oats and he's scummy - Calls iamp town - Calls VE town with Vivax, iamp and DP (Consider VE super BIG - that´s what she said - filter) Calls OATS scum again. + Show Spoiler + On March 05 2024 06:22 Palmar wrote: I agree with you being town. I'm like 2 pages into the game so all my reads are just random feelings right now but I like you, Vivax, iamp and DP. I don't like Oats. - Comfrots marv, calls koshi townish + Show Spoiler + On March 05 2024 09:51 Palmar wrote: Cba arguing with marv now but did make a mental note of him posting about vivax probably being town but not wanting to mayor him. Weird take because voting town mayor is always best. Can just bully them into lynching theme way we want. But ironically I’m not sure marv would call me mafia as scum because he has no idea if I’m gonna put in work tomorrow or be lazy. But it’s all very weak and I’m not day 1 lynching players who can be relied on to actually try later on in the game. I liked some Koshi posts - Oats scum again, third time + Show Spoiler + On March 05 2024 09:54 Palmar wrote: Oats scummy read is for announcing he wants to be mayor but then I skimmed a few more points and he didn’t really push the idea he should be. - Calls VE town - Hasnt read vivax filter, hasnt read where he claimed but he wants to mayor him or kill him for claiming. Yet to Marv he told him that it is always a good idea to mayor town vivax, would that be TMI?  (Those interactions are on Palmar filter page1)- fights with jacob or discuss with him - DP votes him + Show Spoiler + On March 05 2024 19:19 Palmar wrote: Okay you've done step 1 which is establish a discrepancy in my play this game to the last game. But you've then made a leap that me playing differently means I'm mafia. Can you explain how playing differently means i'm mafia? - His first reads, VE, DMB and OATS mafia. + Show Spoiler + On March 05 2024 19:41 Palmar wrote: So I'm going to talk about a few people now. Consider this just rambling thoughts about the thread that I'm absolutely not going to read in full. Probably gonna do this in a few parts so my reads might evolve from now until I've done the last people I want to talk about. Oatsmaster Both initially, and currently, the reason he's my tentative #1 lynch target is based on exactly one thing, this: Go find that post in his filter, then read the following maybe... 20 posts? I don't think there is a single one of them where he is actually pushing to get himself elected as mayor. Ironically he scolded someone else for doing that same thing. There really isn't much else to it. The case is simply "He said he wanted to be mayor but then none of his posting seems to point towards him actually wanting to be mayor". It's far from lock scum case, it's mostly just a bad play regardless of alignment, but it's... maybe easier to explain as an attempt to do something bold as mafia. I'm gonna read more before I plant a vote or anything. VisceraEyes Part of me just wants him to be town because I'm happy VE is playing, so I admit it may be an overreaching town read. But it's mostly a tone read. He seems to be happy to be playing the game. He said he wanted mayor and actually made a few follow up posts complaining no one was voting for him. Also this isn't even alignment indicative but it's super good. I have zero interest in lynching VE today. DMB So I haven't really read anything of hers but I just wanted to make this point. She confuses me so much. I make something that's an obvious joke, and she jumps on it? Why? My gut is "well that's stupid and townies do stupid shit". But my meta is that she's perfectly willing to do stupid shit as mafia from last game. She does get townie points for completely forgetting I exist in her list post though. But yeah, I don't actually have a read on her, it's just something I noticed. - sandro is dissapointing - Oats talk - Talks about oats but hasnt filtered him - more stuff - is filtering DP - Called DP town before but now DP is meh On March 05 2024 22:25 Palmar wrote: DP is a null, but I've only read his posts in the context of reading other players. I did like him calling out iamperfection for being wrong about how to deal with Vivax (I'm reading Vivax right now). But some of his other stuff that I've seen has been decidedly meh. Problem is, he has posted so goddamn much I don't even know what I should read of his postings. I guess I'll go find a list post or something. But he should maybe just be off the table today just because he has a long filter. - Now JSL is town, when he filtered him + Show Spoiler + On March 05 2024 22:40 Palmar wrote: I just filtered JSL, there's actually a bunch of stuff in his posts I kinda like. Some of it is just me agreeing with how he thinks about the game (don't kill players who you know will be active), and some of it is just tonal stuff (I'm arrogant cause I don't get lynched as town). Some of it is weirdness... the guy made a case on himself. Kinda towny - Wants to lynch vivax + Show Spoiler + On March 05 2024 22:47 Palmar wrote: You don't have to, I'm not your mom. But it's still stupid. Like it or not, by claiming Vivax made the game about himself. The objectively correct play as town here is to lynch him. That is literally the best play. But we've decided not to do that and I kinda think that's the right call. Essentially we assume Vivax is bad town and not mafia. If that's the case he has a very, very strong power role and we think he's town, so we just make him mayor. I really can't think of why we would not do one or the other if we're playing logically. We can always force him to kill whoever we want dead, he's not without responsibility as mayor. - TTS could be a policy lynch but hasnt done much On March 05 2024 23:05 Palmar wrote: Dumbest scumread ever is that TTS just casually assumed he'd be alive by day 4 or something. Also even talking about a random voting stage like we're some plebeian third world mafia site is pretty scummy. But he's done nothing so there's no read. Good policy lynch though. - JAT is mafia, what happened to his other list? - Rayn and Palmar read JAT as mafia - Calls VE more scummy - Considers Marv mafia - Now OATS is more townish https://tl.net/forum/mafia/621454-a-classy-game-of-mafia?page=115#2287 - We have this jewel On March 06 2024 06:47 Palmar wrote: Btw the wagon on me is so bad. marv is probably just mafia jat has literally no reason to think I am, and is probably mafia anyway. Trfel has literally no reason to think I am Slam is slam Koshi has thought I am mafia every game for 10+ years. I think he just enjoys murdering me. The only standout is DP - DP calls Palmar towniesh, palmar happy - More reads + Show Spoiler + On March 06 2024 06:54 Palmar wrote: As for other people. I stand by the sandroba townread, koshi is probably town too. I like Oats a lot more now for actually making sense. I also like JSL and Vivax. I'd need VE to actually step up some again, same with Trfel. I had some reads on both but they're weak. DMB is also a weak maybe townread. iamperfection is making sense, but the guy is smart enough to make sense when there is no pressure on him as either alignment. DP is a little more wildcardy to me this game, I haven't always agreed with his takes. TTS, JEalous, Hapa just need to be policied out. I've not read or even noticed Rels at all which is a bad omen. rayn is weird to me. I'm again getting the feeling that he's just posting a lot and saying very little, also I really, really don't like that he's not pressuring marv at all in the mason QT it seems. Idk about CopCake, nothjin one way or the other. MZ looks kinda bad, but it's very weak as I haven't really read him. - JAT Mafia, Tfrel more townish than JAT - Rels wants to lynch palmar - More reads + Show Spoiler + On March 06 2024 08:55 Palmar wrote: I'm finalizing here. I like a bunch of mafia in: rayn jat rels mz tts then there's gonna be some mafia in the people who should be killed on policy vivax trfel hapa then there's the people that need constant monitoring and need to improve iamp marv jealous copcake slam ve and finally we have the people I have somewhere from mild to good reasons to think are town sandro oats dp dmb jls koshi None of the lists are in any particular order I don't really think Trfel will flip mafia. It's just a "I believe in people" read that he wouldn't fuck off like that as mafia with the whole "If I get lynched I get lynched" thing. But it's an objectively good lynch so I'm not going to fight it all that hard. Leaving my vote on jat. I've been burned before by placing too much faith in people not doing crazy things as mafia so it's whatever. - wants to lynch oats because of red check - Makes a case on rayn when he is already dead, but knows oats is red checked. ???????? - Oats calls Palmar mafia - Calls JSL good town and other reads https://tl.net/forum/mafia/621454-a-classy-game-of-mafia?page=250#4994 - Needs to read cop/JSL/dmb etc but wasnt jacob like super town? + Show Spoiler + On March 09 2024 07:11 Palmar wrote: Essentially it comes down to: I really need to filter dive CopCake, DMB, MZ, Rels and JSL because there's like 3 mafia in there. One is probably either Oats or Slam, unless we're just the unluckiest town in the world. Also if Slam and Vivax are genuinely town and both claimed on day 1, we deserve to lose. There's gonna be a hidden mafia there somewhere. - Temped to lynch slam - temped to lynch VE because he is inactive [b]As much as I actually can't explain VE's lack of enthusiasm with anything other than him being mafia, I think we NEED to resolve this situation at some point between the red check and slam, and better now than in lylo. Problems with Palmar Tone reads VE, changes later because inactivity? Scum reads Oats, but never pushes him Says a lot about other players but when he gets questioned about them he says he hasnt filter them. JAT is mafia because ??????? Rayn called JAT mafia yet he scumread rayn when he started to question him? Temped to lynch THE COP over the red check. I dont know Palmar that much, I remember he once made a joke about Koshi that made me laugh in a game I was in obvs, if he has a mafia read does he push HARD or not? | ||
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DarthPunk
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CopCake
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DarthPunk
Australia10857 Posts
On March 12 2024 06:02 CopCake wrote: + Show Spoiler + PALMAR posts - Calls vivax town - Calls oats scum + Show Spoiler + On March 05 2024 06:18 Palmar wrote: I read like 2 posts of Oats and he's scummy - Calls iamp town - Calls VE town with Vivax, iamp and DP (Consider VE super BIG - that´s what she said - filter) Calls OATS scum again. + Show Spoiler + On March 05 2024 06:22 Palmar wrote: I agree with you being town. I'm like 2 pages into the game so all my reads are just random feelings right now but I like you, Vivax, iamp and DP. I don't like Oats. - Comfrots marv, calls koshi townish + Show Spoiler + On March 05 2024 09:51 Palmar wrote: Cba arguing with marv now but did make a mental note of him posting about vivax probably being town but not wanting to mayor him. Weird take because voting town mayor is always best. Can just bully them into lynching theme way we want. But ironically I’m not sure marv would call me mafia as scum because he has no idea if I’m gonna put in work tomorrow or be lazy. But it’s all very weak and I’m not day 1 lynching players who can be relied on to actually try later on in the game. I liked some Koshi posts - Oats scum again, third time + Show Spoiler + On March 05 2024 09:54 Palmar wrote: Oats scummy read is for announcing he wants to be mayor but then I skimmed a few more points and he didn’t really push the idea he should be. - Calls VE town - Hasnt read vivax filter, hasnt read where he claimed but he wants to mayor him or kill him for claiming. Yet to Marv he told him that it is always a good idea to mayor town vivax, would that be TMI? (Those interactions are on Palmar filter page1)- fights with jacob or discuss with him - DP votes him + Show Spoiler + On March 05 2024 19:19 Palmar wrote: Okay you've done step 1 which is establish a discrepancy in my play this game to the last game. But you've then made a leap that me playing differently means I'm mafia. Can you explain how playing differently means i'm mafia? - His first reads, VE, DMB and OATS mafia. + Show Spoiler + On March 05 2024 19:41 Palmar wrote: So I'm going to talk about a few people now. Consider this just rambling thoughts about the thread that I'm absolutely not going to read in full. Probably gonna do this in a few parts so my reads might evolve from now until I've done the last people I want to talk about. Oatsmaster Both initially, and currently, the reason he's my tentative #1 lynch target is based on exactly one thing, this: Go find that post in his filter, then read the following maybe... 20 posts? I don't think there is a single one of them where he is actually pushing to get himself elected as mayor. Ironically he scolded someone else for doing that same thing. There really isn't much else to it. The case is simply "He said he wanted to be mayor but then none of his posting seems to point towards him actually wanting to be mayor". It's far from lock scum case, it's mostly just a bad play regardless of alignment, but it's... maybe easier to explain as an attempt to do something bold as mafia. I'm gonna read more before I plant a vote or anything. VisceraEyes Part of me just wants him to be town because I'm happy VE is playing, so I admit it may be an overreaching town read. But it's mostly a tone read. He seems to be happy to be playing the game. He said he wanted mayor and actually made a few follow up posts complaining no one was voting for him. Also this isn't even alignment indicative but it's super good. I have zero interest in lynching VE today. DMB So I haven't really read anything of hers but I just wanted to make this point. She confuses me so much. I make something that's an obvious joke, and she jumps on it? Why? My gut is "well that's stupid and townies do stupid shit". But my meta is that she's perfectly willing to do stupid shit as mafia from last game. She does get townie points for completely forgetting I exist in her list post though. But yeah, I don't actually have a read on her, it's just something I noticed. - sandro is dissapointing - Oats talk - Talks about oats but hasnt filtered him - more stuff - is filtering DP - Called DP town before but now DP is meh On March 05 2024 22:25 Palmar wrote: DP is a null, but I've only read his posts in the context of reading other players. I did like him calling out iamperfection for being wrong about how to deal with Vivax (I'm reading Vivax right now). But some of his other stuff that I've seen has been decidedly meh. Problem is, he has posted so goddamn much I don't even know what I should read of his postings. I guess I'll go find a list post or something. But he should maybe just be off the table today just because he has a long filter. - Now JSL is town, when he filtered him + Show Spoiler + On March 05 2024 22:40 Palmar wrote: I just filtered JSL, there's actually a bunch of stuff in his posts I kinda like. Some of it is just me agreeing with how he thinks about the game (don't kill players who you know will be active), and some of it is just tonal stuff (I'm arrogant cause I don't get lynched as town). Some of it is weirdness... the guy made a case on himself. Kinda towny - Wants to lynch vivax + Show Spoiler + On March 05 2024 22:47 Palmar wrote: You don't have to, I'm not your mom. But it's still stupid. Like it or not, by claiming Vivax made the game about himself. The objectively correct play as town here is to lynch him. That is literally the best play. But we've decided not to do that and I kinda think that's the right call. Essentially we assume Vivax is bad town and not mafia. If that's the case he has a very, very strong power role and we think he's town, so we just make him mayor. I really can't think of why we would not do one or the other if we're playing logically. We can always force him to kill whoever we want dead, he's not without responsibility as mayor. - TTS could be a policy lynch but hasnt done much On March 05 2024 23:05 Palmar wrote: Dumbest scumread ever is that TTS just casually assumed he'd be alive by day 4 or something. Also even talking about a random voting stage like we're some plebeian third world mafia site is pretty scummy. But he's done nothing so there's no read. Good policy lynch though. - JAT is mafia, what happened to his other list? - Rayn and Palmar read JAT as mafia - Calls VE more scummy - Considers Marv mafia - Now OATS is more townish https://tl.net/forum/mafia/621454-a-classy-game-of-mafia?page=115#2287 - We have this jewel On March 06 2024 06:47 Palmar wrote: Btw the wagon on me is so bad. marv is probably just mafia jat has literally no reason to think I am, and is probably mafia anyway. Trfel has literally no reason to think I am Slam is slam Koshi has thought I am mafia every game for 10+ years. I think he just enjoys murdering me. The only standout is DP - DP calls Palmar towniesh, palmar happy - More reads + Show Spoiler + On March 06 2024 06:54 Palmar wrote: As for other people. I stand by the sandroba townread, koshi is probably town too. I like Oats a lot more now for actually making sense. I also like JSL and Vivax. I'd need VE to actually step up some again, same with Trfel. I had some reads on both but they're weak. DMB is also a weak maybe townread. iamperfection is making sense, but the guy is smart enough to make sense when there is no pressure on him as either alignment. DP is a little more wildcardy to me this game, I haven't always agreed with his takes. TTS, JEalous, Hapa just need to be policied out. I've not read or even noticed Rels at all which is a bad omen. rayn is weird to me. I'm again getting the feeling that he's just posting a lot and saying very little, also I really, really don't like that he's not pressuring marv at all in the mason QT it seems. Idk about CopCake, nothjin one way or the other. MZ looks kinda bad, but it's very weak as I haven't really read him. - JAT Mafia, Tfrel more townish than JAT - Rels wants to lynch palmar - More reads + Show Spoiler + On March 06 2024 08:55 Palmar wrote: I'm finalizing here. I like a bunch of mafia in: rayn jat rels mz tts then there's gonna be some mafia in the people who should be killed on policy vivax trfel hapa then there's the people that need constant monitoring and need to improve iamp marv jealous copcake slam ve and finally we have the people I have somewhere from mild to good reasons to think are town sandro oats dp dmb jls koshi None of the lists are in any particular order I don't really think Trfel will flip mafia. It's just a "I believe in people" read that he wouldn't fuck off like that as mafia with the whole "If I get lynched I get lynched" thing. But it's an objectively good lynch so I'm not going to fight it all that hard. Leaving my vote on jat. I've been burned before by placing too much faith in people not doing crazy things as mafia so it's whatever. - wants to lynch oats because of red check - Makes a case on rayn when he is already dead, but knows oats is red checked. ???????? - Oats calls Palmar mafia - Calls JSL good town and other reads https://tl.net/forum/mafia/621454-a-classy-game-of-mafia?page=250#4994 - Needs to read cop/JSL/dmb etc but wasnt jacob like super town? + Show Spoiler + On March 09 2024 07:11 Palmar wrote: Essentially it comes down to: I really need to filter dive CopCake, DMB, MZ, Rels and JSL because there's like 3 mafia in there. One is probably either Oats or Slam, unless we're just the unluckiest town in the world. Also if Slam and Vivax are genuinely town and both claimed on day 1, we deserve to lose. There's gonna be a hidden mafia there somewhere. - Temped to lynch slam - temped to lynch VE because he is inactive [b]As much as I actually can't explain VE's lack of enthusiasm with anything other than him being mafia, I think we NEED to resolve this situation at some point between the red check and slam, and better now than in lylo. Problems with Palmar Tone reads VE, changes later because inactivity? Scum reads Oats, but never pushes him Says a lot about other players but when he gets questioned about them he says he hasnt filter them. JAT is mafia because ??????? Rayn called JAT mafia yet he scumread rayn when he started to question him? Temped to lynch THE COP over the red check. I dont know Palmar that much, I remember he once made a joke about Koshi that made me laugh in a game I was in obvs, if he has a mafia read does he push HARD or not? What makes any of that alignment indicative for palmar? | ||
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justanothertownie
16318 Posts
On March 12 2024 06:01 DarthPunk wrote: Does anyone recall her first real post of the game just being over the top aggressive calling me mafia out of nowhere and never letting it go. She literally couldn’t reevaluate her reads at all until I literally became confirmed town. Then she just wasted all day talking bullshit about night actions. Also what happened to her imperfection scum read. She calls him scum day one, literally drops it never mentions it again. Does this seem like town to you all? For what its worth the bolded does not and has not convinced me now or before. What's the mafia motivation behind openly antagonizing you like that? The focus on you and the night actions was bit much, yes. | ||
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iamperfection
United States9642 Posts
On March 12 2024 06:03 CopCake wrote: Also is ok if you lynch me, I think VE is town, he could have parked his vote on me and afk but he didnt, he also put effort in reading and I do believe his rage of getting mad because he put EFFORT and got ignored. He did park his vote on you then afked to start though. | ||
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DarthPunk
Australia10857 Posts
On March 12 2024 06:03 CopCake wrote: Also is ok if you lynch me, I think VE is town, he could have parked his vote on me and afk but he didnt, he also put effort in reading and I do believe his rage of getting mad because he put EFFORT and got ignored. What alignment is imperfection Can you just post a list of everyone alive with like one sentence what you think about them | ||
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CopCake
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On March 12 2024 06:01 DarthPunk wrote: Does anyone recall her first real post of the game just being over the top aggressive calling me mafia out of nowhere and never letting it go. She literally couldn’t reevaluate her reads at all until I literally became confirmed town. Then she just wasted all day talking bullshit about night actions. Also what happened to her imperfection scum read. She calls him scum day one, literally drops it never mentions it again. Does this seem like town to you all? You are not confirmed town, there is a slimy, tiny chance you can be mafia. Me and DMB discussed about it. We agreed it was less likely. Besides if you are TOWN, you should know I am NOT mafia because of night actions shenanigans, I talked about this earlier. If you lynch me is ok. | ||
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DarthPunk
Australia10857 Posts
On March 12 2024 06:05 justanothertownie wrote: For what its worth the bolded does not and has not convinced me now or before. What's the mafia motivation behind openly antagonizing you like that? The focus on you and the night actions was bit much, yes. She openly antagonised me in her last mafia game. And it worked | ||
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iamperfection
United States9642 Posts
On March 12 2024 06:05 justanothertownie wrote: For what its worth the bolded does not and has not convinced me now or before. What's the mafia motivation behind openly antagonizing you like that? The focus on you and the night actions was bit much, yes. Tunneling one person for a majority of the game doesn't look scum motivated to you? | ||
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CopCake
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On March 12 2024 06:05 iamperfection wrote: He did park his vote on you then afked to start though. But he came back, made reads, etc. Something he didnt do when he was mafia with slam and i forgot who else. | ||
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DarthPunk
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On March 12 2024 06:05 CopCake wrote: You are not confirmed town, there is a slimy, tiny chance you can be mafia. Me and DMB discussed about it. We agreed it was less likely. Besides if you are TOWN, you should know I am NOT mafia because of night actions shenanigans, I talked about this earlier. If you lynch me is ok. Just wrong | ||
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justanothertownie
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On March 12 2024 06:06 iamperfection wrote: Tunneling one person for a majority of the game doesn't look scum motivated to you? That is why I say that is a bit much. | ||
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justanothertownie
16318 Posts
On March 12 2024 06:05 DarthPunk wrote: What alignment is imperfection Can you just post a list of everyone alive with like one sentence what you think about them Imperfection might be the best and at the same time most offensive way to misspell his name. Genius. | ||
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CopCake
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On March 12 2024 06:06 iamperfection wrote: Tunneling one person for a majority of the game doesn't look scum motivated to you? I havent been tuneled in one person. I mean, I questioned the mayor. | ||
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DarthPunk
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On March 12 2024 06:06 iamperfection wrote: Tunneling one person for a majority of the game doesn't look scum motivated to you? I don’t mind a tunnel if the person does other things. She just hid behind the tunnel then she hid behind the night action speculation and matyring. I asked her for her reads because after 28 pages of filter I still don’t know what they are. | ||
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CopCake
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Why? Tell me? Why are you confirmed town? | ||
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DarthPunk
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On March 12 2024 06:08 justanothertownie wrote: Imperfection might be the best and at the same time most offensive way to misspell his name. Genius. That was an accident. I used to do it on purpose back in the day though. | ||
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DarthPunk
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