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On March 09 2024 22:47 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2024 22:43 justanothertownie wrote:On March 09 2024 22:40 Vivax wrote:
I just consider it possible that VE is playing against wincon as either alignment to annoy us. Reading Oats should tell me more. It won't. There is very little about VE in there until the check was claimed. Only this: On March 04 2024 14:44 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 04 2024 14:43 VisceraEyes wrote:
Good morning everyone. It turns out I'm town for once so I apologize in advance for your own inability to read me and subsequent mislynch of me. I will endeavor to prevent it but I would do that as Mafia too so shrugz0rz.
I am running for mayor on a platform of lynching a lurker of my own choosing that is not subject to towns knowledge or influence.
A vote for VE is a vote for an active town.
Anyone who has posted so far is safe D1, for I am a kind and benevolent Lord. Why lurker Which is... meh I‘m curious about what you think of DP.
He is all over the place. In a good way. I would be very impressed if he can produce this kind of filter as mafia. Probably at least one of us will die in the night before we reach a point in time where I would consider lynching him so it is not really worth thinking about it.
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On March 09 2024 22:52 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2024 22:47 Vivax wrote:On March 09 2024 22:43 justanothertownie wrote:On March 09 2024 22:40 Vivax wrote:
I just consider it possible that VE is playing against wincon as either alignment to annoy us. Reading Oats should tell me more. It won't. There is very little about VE in there until the check was claimed. Only this: On March 04 2024 14:44 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 04 2024 14:43 VisceraEyes wrote:
Good morning everyone. It turns out I'm town for once so I apologize in advance for your own inability to read me and subsequent mislynch of me. I will endeavor to prevent it but I would do that as Mafia too so shrugz0rz.
I am running for mayor on a platform of lynching a lurker of my own choosing that is not subject to towns knowledge or influence.
A vote for VE is a vote for an active town.
Anyone who has posted so far is safe D1, for I am a kind and benevolent Lord. Why lurker Which is... meh I‘m curious about what you think of DP. He is all over the place. In a good way. I would be very impressed if he can produce this kind of filter as mafia. Probably at least one of us will die in the night before we reach a point in time where I would consider lynching him so it is not really worth thinking about it.
I give it less then 2% chance that he is scum.
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On March 09 2024 21:41 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2024 20:28 justanothertownie wrote:On March 09 2024 16:45 marvellosity wrote:On March 09 2024 16:41 Palmar wrote:On March 09 2024 16:38 marvellosity wrote:On March 05 2024 06:18 Palmar wrote:
I read like 2 posts of Oats and he's scummy Palmar, this was right near the start. What had pinged you? Genuinely curious here. It was the fact he said he wanted to be mayor. But then never really did anything to convince people he should be. Instead all his following posts were stupid questions and passive posts. I then let his reasonableness in the face of dumbassery on part of other people convince me he was town. Yep okay. I think I need to stop being a pussy and just call you town. I am really struggling to see the world you drop the suspicion on him like that as his buddy. It’s just you seeing something and saying it. I didn’t get it at the time, but obvs I am just had  That is really not convincing to me so I have to hope that it is just a longer list of tone things I don't understand that leads you to your read. Because I cannot see it. Unless you are wifoming mafia here but I think you would not do that anyways. urgh I agree with this. I don't understand either marv. A throwaway line is enough to make palmar town?
Get on my level then.
May be tragically low depending on circumstances.
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On March 09 2024 19:01 DarthPunk wrote:
I’m sorry you feel that way VE. I was one of the people who really wanted to play with you.
If it makes you feel any better no one has listened to me about my too scum read either.
No one listened to Rayn or Marv about making Rayn mayor.
I have had ears, uh, eyes!
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On March 09 2024 23:19 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2024 21:41 iamperfection wrote:On March 09 2024 20:28 justanothertownie wrote:On March 09 2024 16:45 marvellosity wrote:On March 09 2024 16:41 Palmar wrote:On March 09 2024 16:38 marvellosity wrote:On March 05 2024 06:18 Palmar wrote:
I read like 2 posts of Oats and he's scummy Palmar, this was right near the start. What had pinged you? Genuinely curious here. It was the fact he said he wanted to be mayor. But then never really did anything to convince people he should be. Instead all his following posts were stupid questions and passive posts. I then let his reasonableness in the face of dumbassery on part of other people convince me he was town. Yep okay. I think I need to stop being a pussy and just call you town. I am really struggling to see the world you drop the suspicion on him like that as his buddy. It’s just you seeing something and saying it. I didn’t get it at the time, but obvs I am just had That is really not convincing to me so I have to hope that it is just a longer list of tone things I don't understand that leads you to your read. Because I cannot see it. Unless you are wifoming mafia here but I think you would not do that anyways. urgh I agree with this. I don't understand either marv. A throwaway line is enough to make palmar town? Get on my level then. May be tragically low depending on circumstances.
Who is the mafia then?
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On March 09 2024 23:20 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2024 23:19 marvellosity wrote:On March 09 2024 21:41 iamperfection wrote:On March 09 2024 20:28 justanothertownie wrote:On March 09 2024 16:45 marvellosity wrote:On March 09 2024 16:41 Palmar wrote:On March 09 2024 16:38 marvellosity wrote:On March 05 2024 06:18 Palmar wrote:
I read like 2 posts of Oats and he's scummy Palmar, this was right near the start. What had pinged you? Genuinely curious here. It was the fact he said he wanted to be mayor. But then never really did anything to convince people he should be. Instead all his following posts were stupid questions and passive posts. I then let his reasonableness in the face of dumbassery on part of other people convince me he was town. Yep okay. I think I need to stop being a pussy and just call you town. I am really struggling to see the world you drop the suspicion on him like that as his buddy. It’s just you seeing something and saying it. I didn’t get it at the time, but obvs I am just had That is really not convincing to me so I have to hope that it is just a longer list of tone things I don't understand that leads you to your read. Because I cannot see it. Unless you are wifoming mafia here but I think you would not do that anyways. urgh I agree with this. I don't understand either marv. A throwaway line is enough to make palmar town? Get on my level then. May be tragically low depending on circumstances. Who is the mafia then?
You tell me
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On March 09 2024 23:22 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2024 23:20 iamperfection wrote:On March 09 2024 23:19 marvellosity wrote:On March 09 2024 21:41 iamperfection wrote:On March 09 2024 20:28 justanothertownie wrote:On March 09 2024 16:45 marvellosity wrote:On March 09 2024 16:41 Palmar wrote:On March 09 2024 16:38 marvellosity wrote:On March 05 2024 06:18 Palmar wrote:
I read like 2 posts of Oats and he's scummy Palmar, this was right near the start. What had pinged you? Genuinely curious here. It was the fact he said he wanted to be mayor. But then never really did anything to convince people he should be. Instead all his following posts were stupid questions and passive posts. I then let his reasonableness in the face of dumbassery on part of other people convince me he was town. Yep okay. I think I need to stop being a pussy and just call you town. I am really struggling to see the world you drop the suspicion on him like that as his buddy. It’s just you seeing something and saying it. I didn’t get it at the time, but obvs I am just had That is really not convincing to me so I have to hope that it is just a longer list of tone things I don't understand that leads you to your read. Because I cannot see it. Unless you are wifoming mafia here but I think you would not do that anyways. urgh I agree with this. I don't understand either marv. A throwaway line is enough to make palmar town? Get on my level then. May be tragically low depending on circumstances. Who is the mafia then? You tell me
I asked first
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Staring at the filter list, we’re getting into PoE territory. Most of all I want to see VE flip.
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On March 09 2024 23:24 marvellosity wrote:
This isn’t a democracy
I'll give you one for sure then you give me one. TTS
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On March 09 2024 11:52 CopCake wrote:
Let it be known I think the mafia team is Palmar, DP, jelaous, etc
Ill be voting Ve to save oats
Can you explain the total about turn on your previous reads, CC?
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On March 09 2024 23:27 iamperfection wrote:I'll give you one for sure then you give me one. TTS
I think these people are town
DP
Vivax
Jealous
Palmar
Cc
Jsl
Iamp
Koshi
Slam
Poe is the rest. But tbh I would be shocked if all the above are town.
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[QUOTE]On March 09 2024 23:31 marvellosity wrote:
[QUOTE]On March 09 2024 23:27 iamperfection wrote:
[QUOTE]On March 09 2024 23:24 marvellosity wrote:
This isn’t a democracy[/QUOTE]
I'll give you one for sure then you give me one. TTS[/QUOTE]
I think these people are town
DP
Vivax
Jealous
Palmar
Cc
Jsl
Iamp
Koshi
Slam
Poe is the rest. But tbh I would be shocked if all the above are town. [/QUOTED]
Are you caught up by now? Gotta say that people like CC, Iamp, Jealous and even Koshi at this point appearing here while I don't is starting to annoy me.
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On March 09 2024 23:31 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2024 23:27 iamperfection wrote:On March 09 2024 23:24 marvellosity wrote:
This isn’t a democracy I'll give you one for sure then you give me one. TTS I think these people are town DP Vivax Jealous Palmar Cc Jsl Iamp Koshi Slam Poe is the rest. But tbh I would be shocked if all the above are town.
Are you caught up by now? Gotta say that people like CC, Iamp, Jealous and even Koshi at this point appearing here while I don't is starting to annoy me.
*fixed
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[QUOTE]On March 09 2024 23:36 justanothertownie wrote:
[QUOTE]On March 09 2024 23:31 marvellosity wrote:
[QUOTE]On March 09 2024 23:27 iamperfection wrote:
[QUOTE]On March 09 2024 23:24 marvellosity wrote:
This isn’t a democracy[/QUOTE]
I'll give you one for sure then you give me one. TTS[/QUOTE]
I think these people are town
DP
Vivax
Jealous
Palmar
Cc
Jsl
Iamp
Koshi
Slam
Poe is the rest. But tbh I would be shocked if all the above are town. [/QUOTED]
Are you caught up by now? Gotta say that people like CC, Iamp, Jealous and even Koshi at this point appearing here while I don't is starting to annoy me.[/QUOTE]
No I’m not. I’ve had social stuff. It’s dawned on me I’ve not read almost 50 pages of the game. I probably have an hour or so so maybe I should go do that.
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On March 09 2024 23:37 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2024 23:31 marvellosity wrote:On March 09 2024 23:27 iamperfection wrote:On March 09 2024 23:24 marvellosity wrote:
This isn’t a democracy I'll give you one for sure then you give me one. TTS I think these people are town DP Vivax Jealous Palmar Cc Jsl Iamp Koshi Slam Poe is the rest. But tbh I would be shocked if all the above are town. Are you caught up by now? Gotta say that people like CC, Iamp, Jealous and even Koshi at this point appearing here while I don't is starting to annoy me. *fixed
It’s because I have a very healthy dose of respect for your mafia game, Jat. It’s literally a compliment.
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On March 09 2024 05:51 Jealous wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2024 01:56 CopCake wrote:
Jelaous is just pretending to care to have reads, complains about people derailing the thread, but he considered “vivax slapping dumb” a very good answer.
I think he doesnt care about reads but just wants to look “good” Okay, I'm now just convinced that you have significant reading comprehension issues, so basically anything you say is NAI. This is just such a horrifically bad take that it can only come as a result of your eyes tricking you into believing you know how to read. Here are points I was responding to: Show nested quote +Starting a discussion with Dp with my English, his ambition and his never-ending questions get on my nerves. I would never voluntarily start a discussion with him if I didn't have to and the only reason I do it is because he is my main scum read.
Being scum was really fun for me and that would take the fun out of it ergo I can not be scum ^ This was included in my quote for context. Show nested quote +I put myself under pressure to start that shit with dp. I know i couldn´t handle that as well as I should so why should I do that as mafia? I knew he gonna give me a lot of pressure more then all the other players would, so again why should I start that and not just take someone easyer do try do lynch and go more with the crowd thoughts. Why even start with the master? I would not be that stupid as mafia ^ This is what I was responding to more specifically. Here is what I said in response to that: Show nested quote +Okay, now I understand what you were saying before. Thanks for clarifying. I actually kinda like this thought process because at least I get it. You can tell, because what I am responding to is right above what I wrote. You can see the original post here: https://tl.net/forum/mafia/621454-a-classy-game-of-mafia?page=187#3731The part about ass slapping, honestly I just ignored it. CopCake, I know you're only working with what God gave you. But please, when you think that something doesn't make sense or is funny because it's dumb, try to consider if maybe the problem lies within, not without.
Sorry but I’ve been chuckling for a good minute
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On March 09 2024 23:38 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2024 23:37 justanothertownie wrote:On March 09 2024 23:31 marvellosity wrote:On March 09 2024 23:27 iamperfection wrote:On March 09 2024 23:24 marvellosity wrote:
This isn’t a democracy I'll give you one for sure then you give me one. TTS I think these people are town DP Vivax Jealous Palmar Cc Jsl Iamp Koshi Slam Poe is the rest. But tbh I would be shocked if all the above are town. Are you caught up by now? Gotta say that people like CC, Iamp, Jealous and even Koshi at this point appearing here while I don't is starting to annoy me. *fixed It’s because I have a very healthy dose of respect for your mafia game, Jat. It’s literally a compliment.
I guess... still annoying.
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On March 09 2024 06:35 Palmar wrote:So, I'm going to finally make the case you've all been waiting for. [b] raynpelikoneet is scum[b] The entire case hinges on two points. There is some other weirdness in his postings, but those are by far the most important ones Point 1 - rayn demands, twice and in all caps, that I make a case on VivaxThe reason this is important is because it clearly implies rayn never actually read my filter Show nested quote +On March 06 2024 22:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:
WHERE IS YOUR FUCKING CASE ON VIVAX, PALMAR? Show nested quote +On March 06 2024 22:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 06 2024 08:55 Palmar wrote:
I'm finalizing here.
I like a bunch of mafia in:
rayn
jat
rels
mz
tts
then there's gonna be some mafia in the people who should be killed on policy
vivax
trfel
hapa
then there's the people that need constant monitoring and need to improve
iamp
marv
jealous
copcake
slam
ve
and finally we have the people I have somewhere from mild to good reasons to think are town
sandro
oats
dp
dmb
jls
koshi
None of the lists are in any particular order
I don't really think Trfel will flip mafia. It's just a "I believe in people" read that he wouldn't fuck off like that as mafia with the whole "If I get lynched I get lynched" thing. But it's an objectively good lynch so I'm not going to fight it all that hard. Leaving my vote on jat. I've been burned before by placing too much faith in people not doing crazy things as mafia so it's whatever. where is your case on vivax? But the problem is, I had explained my stance on Vivax multiple times in the thread. Like I'm actually kinda annoyed with myself for how often I repeated that same point. Here's a link to a post where I summarized me repeatedly expressing the same stance on Vivax. https://tl.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=28152997In conclusion. rayn considers me his #1 lynch target but hasn't actually read my filter and doesn't know my stances. Point 2 - rayn refuses to acknowledge that I don't think and play like himThis one is a little more nuanced to explain, especially to people who weren't involved in the last game we played, but for context here's the gist of it. On day 3, I am town and kinda think rayn may be town. rayn is however mafia and is tunneling me as an established scumread. The most significant post here is this: Show nested quote +On December 16 2023 22:59 Palmar wrote:On December 16 2023 22:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Palmar can you make a post about why it's reasonable to assume i am mafia with (1) sandroba or (2) holyflare? I don’t make associative reads In the same way as he does this game for the mason thing, rayn demands a townread because I have other people that aren't him as possible mafia, and then claims it's impossible that they could be scum together. To me, this is a clear logical fallacy, because it assumes that I'm always right on my scumreads other than rayn. I explain this even further here in the last game. Show nested quote +On December 17 2023 01:24 Palmar wrote:On December 16 2023 23:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 16 2023 23:33 Palmar wrote:
Rayn, I’m not going to read your entire filter because I don’t hate myself. But I did open it and read from the bottom up. I can’t remember if this is something you normally do but you’re spending almost no effort on forming town reads. The best I could find was like “maybe marv is just town” and something like that.
Like have you at any point in this game tried to argue that someone is town? Do youthink that's something that makes me mafia? I mean like its probably the easiest thing to do as mafia, call townies town for correct reasons. I also heavily abuse that fact as mafia. I dont care if you do associative reads or not. I find it suspicious that the people who i sm literally the least likely to be mafia with ate the ones you geoup with me being mafia with snd just sit on that. Also i disagree that i had no influence on the game. Its true i have not been as active as usual. But i was a key factor to almost change the lynch from Vivax to sandroba D1, and i also believe i was one of the key votes to lynch Chezinu. In order cause phoneposting. Not necessarily but it’s different from what I do. I said I can’t remember if it’s normal for you. Again, I don’t think this way. Maybe I’m wrong on something. Maybe mafia is playing lone wolf. I just don’t care at all who is likely to be mafia with who. It has no impact on how I think about any game. You HAVE been active. You have one of the longest filters in the game. You just haven’t been influential. So given that we literally had this discussion last game, rayn's claim THIS game that I must be mafia because I refuse to think in associations like he does means he has to be scum himself. Not because he doesn't know my playstyle, that's actually completely acceptable he's mafia because he's reminded that I just explained my playstyle to him last game, I play like I always do again, and remind him that's how I think, but he still refuses to listenThis means he doesn't WANT to listen, and his objective isn't actually finding out my alignment, just wants to kill me. In conclusion: raynpelikoneetI mean the only other option is that he's a moron.
Omg 😆😆😆
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I really want Rels to be mafia, but does he gloat not once, but twice about his elite read?
Hmm.
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