On March 08 2024 10:57 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: You can't all be scum, some of you just have to be dumb. The tricky part is figuring out which is which.
Kinda where I'm at, but I'm also thinking it might be smart!town throwing some seeds out there to see who shows up to pick at them. I kinda feel like Koshi and Vivac would generally be too smart to do something so stupid without a reason.
Feel like it's been a few hours and beers in me by now so I feel comfortable saying that the bait would already be getting moldy, so no harm in my outing my suspicions that some of these baby wagon attempts are just that: little experiments to see who reacts how.
What are you talking about in the last paragraph? Did you do something in order to bait reactions? If yes, what were those things and what were the results you got from them?
My initial impression was that Koshi and Vivax were not dumb enough to go against a cop-claimed Alakazam's reveal on scum!Oats, but suddenly here they were, pushing other wagons out of nowhere. So, by eliminating the dumb option, the "smart" option is that Vivax and Koshi are just throwing out bait to see who bites and what those decisions result in. Like running an experiment.
However, several hours later I figured the "experiments" (if that's what they were) had already run their course to some extent so I wouldn't be contaminating the results by outing my suspicion that this is what they were doing. This was further bolstered by alcohol in the system.
Kinda regretting it now though because I would have loved to see how Koshi and Vivax would have justified their wagon attempts without my saying anything.
Now that you know it was real, what do you think of them?
Would prefer to hear the aforementioned justifications first, even if they've been diluted.
On March 09 2024 14:26 Rels wrote: Seeing the red claim and immediately voting his teammate in less than 2 minutes ... maybe it's not possible
Range is like 0.01 seconds to 119, but as someone who was there it felt very fast. If anyone knows how to get time depth on the level of seconds, let me know.
It was 13 seconds.
Hence why I defended him later, and was lolling because unlucky amount of time.
On March 09 2024 14:44 Jealous wrote: I guess the follow-up question is "Would town!Rels as he has played so far be willing to stick his neck out for DMB to this extent and dig to make it believable?"
WIFOM battling against WIOM (wine inside of me) rn so I'll probably check out now.
Nice job team, props Slam. Let's make N2/D2 productive and figure out who was breadcrumming and who was anti-town sheeping.
On March 05 2024 06:18 Palmar wrote: I read like 2 posts of Oats and he's scummy
Palmar, this was right near the start. What had pinged you? Genuinely curious here.
It was the fact he said he wanted to be mayor. But then never really did anything to convince people he should be. Instead all his following posts were stupid questions and passive posts.
I then let his reasonableness in the face of dumbassery on part of other people convince me he was town.
On March 06 2024 01:21 Oatsmaster wrote: I’m trying to wrap my head around this Palmar push by marv and what it means for marvs alignment. I think Palmar has been way more townie this last like 5 pages and that only seems to solidify marvs read
In particular this pocket post did a lot of heavy lifting in changing my view on him. I was so frustrated with the dumb attacks at the time.
On March 05 2024 06:18 Palmar wrote: I read like 2 posts of Oats and he's scummy
Palmar, this was right near the start. What had pinged you? Genuinely curious here.
It was the fact he said he wanted to be mayor. But then never really did anything to convince people he should be. Instead all his following posts were stupid questions and passive posts.
I then let his reasonableness in the face of dumbassery on part of other people convince me he was town.
Yep okay. I think I need to stop being a pussy and just call you town.
I am really struggling to see the world you drop the suspicion on him like that as his buddy. It’s just you seeing something and saying it.
I didn’t get it at the time, but obvs I am just had
[QUOTE]On March 09 2024 13:16 Vivax wrote: [QUOTE]On March 09 2024 13:14 Vivax wrote: [QUOTE]On March 09 2024 11:51 Grackaroni wrote: Day Two VoteCount
On March 09 2024 13:20 Rels wrote: @Anyone does scum!Palmar fake 2 dumbtells in a single post? Taking in consideration that people have scumread DMB for dumbtelling
Link it for me.
Yes I’m lazy.
Just gave my thought on Palmar which I’ve been sitting on for the whole of d2 waiting for the flip
On March 09 2024 06:59 Palmar wrote: So like I'm going to try to sort of organize the game in my head, and I'm going to do it out loud, so you can watch me think. It's a fascinating display.
We probably have about 5 mafia in this game. It could be 4, but then they have very strong roles. Normal balance would suggest 5.
This means I need to start sort of filtering down the people I want to think about.
First up, the people I don't really want to lynch or even consider at all:
DarthPunk for huge filter and repeatedly liking his takes on things. Vivax because that's the gamble we made when we didn't policy lynch him.
Then there's the weaker town reads that are definitely going to contain some mafia:
Koshi was very good early day 1, but I feel like his impact has been reduced. Still not enough to start calling him mafia marvellosity - I kinda think he's maybe town, he did come around on me correctly, and I kinda trust sandro's read. So for what it's worth, he goes into the "worry later" pile.
Then there's the people who will be resolved by today
Slam - we lynch slam if Oats flips non-miller town. The frame idea is statistically so unlikely Oats - we lynch Oats today because despite his efforts, there is like 90% chance of him flipping mafia. He does look and say townie things which is pretty well played, but the odds of any other random player flipping red just happen to be significantly lower
This means there's like... 0.3% chance a framer hits the same target the cop checks (but obviously intiution skews this a lot) it's still the best play to do it like that.
Actually as I write this I realize I have way too few townread, which means I really, really need to get work done. For one reason or another I don't trust any of the people below.
Jealous - lack of investigation from me, little posting Meapak_Ziphh - lack of investigation from me, I'm masoned with the dude but I'm a terrible mason partner because I think they're stupid. That's mostly on me. I also recall some of his posting being a little meek justanothertownie - Some really atrocious takes throughout the game. Bullshit associative reads and voting without any kind of analysis. die_meatbaby - lack of investigation from me. I remember having a different feel from last game, but she still gets stuck on dumb shit. CopCake - I kinda liked rayn's point during the night. Also she should really think I'm town after our discussion in the night. JacobStrangelove - This guy is clearly just smart. I liked his posting because it's all pretty reasonable, but I feel like he isn't moving the needle at all this game. Happy sitting back and not getting listened to. Iamperfection - One particularly terrible take during the night, but maybe he just doesn't know what a policy lynch is. I didn't follow up enough to understand if it was malicious or just kinda stupid. ToTheStars - lurker VisceraEyes - Fell off cliff. Where VE? Rels - Terrible case on me on day 1 that reeked of mafia trying to "contribute". Super clear he wasn't caught up on the game and lacked opinionsþ
The 2 dumbtells are in that post ("4 or 5 mafia", "JSL could be scum even though he claimed") I might be biaised by this but I really like this Palmar post. Feels like a really genuine world view
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