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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 08 2024 14:48 GMT
#4861
On March 08 2024 23:46 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2024 22:15 Koshi wrote:
On March 08 2024 22:11 Vivax wrote:
On March 08 2024 17:11 Koshi wrote:
On March 08 2024 10:32 DarthPunk wrote:
Vivax I helped you become mayor, so I feel I have a responsibility to keep you on track.

So when you do dumb shit I am going to block you every time until I die.

If you don't want to lynch Oats today that is fine, I will lynch Cake who is confirmed fucking mafia and then we can lynch oats tomorrow.

You may be mayor right now but i am in control of this fucking thread.

CC is not mafia. Worst case she is traitor and played very cool D1.


She could also be pretending to be traitor while you are the traitor tbh

I would be disappointed if mafia doesnt guess me at least once.

Actually an amazing thing to say as traitor…

Good catch
No gg, No skill.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 08 2024 14:48 GMT
#4862
Like it’s a joke. But is it.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 08 2024 14:50 GMT
#4863
On March 08 2024 21:27 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2024 14:43 Oatsmaster wrote:
Okay so I was quoting a bunch of mz posts but I fucked up somewhere and the post is gone.
Anyway let me try again
On March 05 2024 00:59 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On March 04 2024 18:28 marvellosity wrote:
On March 04 2024 12:32 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On March 04 2024 12:28 DarthPunk wrote:
If we vote for the tip top town to be mayor, why can't we trust them with a vig shot?

Sure make suggestions and stuff, but I know if I was the mayor I am just going to back myself, because I know I am town and can make a smart shot.



But I don't know if you're town and I'm still not trusting my tip top town with a shot on D1.

Sorry MZ, you’d trust a collective town with all sorts of levels of play, and containing multiple mafia, to make a better choice than your best town read?

On D1? Yes. Outside of people like Ver or Ace or incognito, I don't think there's anyone on TL who I'd trust over my own reads on D1. I know trfel and I kinda beat the whole mayor kill thing to death in the first few pages but I just think using it as a town double lynch has a way higher chance of hitting scum than one guy taking a gut shot.

So mz here says that he trusts his own reads above everyone else in the game but then somehow twists that to having town choose the mayor kill being ideal which would give mz the benefit of mayor without the drawbacks of the responsibility to actually carry out the kill. Scummy


I don't think this is alignment indicative, I agree with what sandro? says about this being an old-school approach, and I can recall other townies suggesting this in older games.
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2024 14:43 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 05 2024 11:09 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On March 05 2024 06:45 sandroba wrote:
I mean I can see you not confident rayn is town, being maybe null on trfel and leaning scum on marv. But pushing to lynch into these 3 now is just ridiculous as town, you are sowing doubt and with no actual town goal. I'm pretty convinced koshi is scum

Is he scum or frustrated by the mason circle and trying to force a case to justify his emotions?

Mz then goes through koshi and flip flops a couple of posts about koshi and right after that does this weird defending post to Sandro where it seems like he has a really firm townread on koshi which wasn’t a natural progression. He does this earlier with dmb too, in a very unnatural way.


I think town are more likely to be fluid in their reads, I can see what Oats is saying here but I don't agree it is scummy, and it didn't really strike me as unnatural over being open minded.

Show nested quote +
On March 07 2024 14:43 Oatsmaster wrote:
MZ also spends most of the day tunneling copcake and writing posts that he never follows up on about the people that “thought vivax was town but didn’t want him to be mayor”
However come to right after the lynch, mz posts this

On March 06 2024 12:26 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On March 06 2024 12:15 Vivax wrote:
On March 06 2024 12:14 CopCake wrote:
On March 06 2024 12:12 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 06 2024 12:12 CopCake wrote:
In before, cake why were you so sure Tfrel was town? Only mafia can be like that 🧟‍♀️

I wasnt sure, but I stated why Tfrel is a good player AND it was probably his real birthday today, we saw a birthday cake in his username and he said he was unaware, so if he id mia maybe it is because of the celebration.


You wasted your vote, so you can't be mad if you are town.


I didnt wasted my vote, I was sleeping.

And spent yesterday part of the day praising Tfrel.

You saying this is unfair. And a bad player.




You put your alarm at 1 minute after deadline ?

lmfao I missed this, I had the exact same thought. I always hate when people come strolling into the thread after a lynch and talk about how bad everyone was for lynching a townie when their vote is on some rando with no real chance of dying and they weren't around at the deadline.

As if the person he’s talking about isn’t his top scumread throughout day 1 and just some rando. Again makes no sense for a townie to think like this.

Pretty sure he is mistaking Vivax for Cake in this point.
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2024 14:43 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 07 2024 11:06 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
OK I'm caught up. No way scum shoots me with everyone who decided it was time for the D2 MZ scum read a little early but in case someone was inspired to vigi me I've got the following for scum in order of confidence:

JSL for stuff I've previously posted about
VE for completely fucking off from the game when the pressure let up from him
TTS for also completely fucking off
Marv based on vibes and his refusal to interact with the thread outside of the mason group.
JAT (but this is a weak read since my vote on him was more because I thought he was scummier, worth a revisit for me)

I'm no longer scumreading cop but I just wish she would answer my questions about JSL

Town reads who I'm never gonna lynch are:
Sandroba
Vivax
DP
Koshi

Randomly now townreads her even though he previously said how he hates her play, there’s no explanation here as to why he flips.

Overall, it just doesn’t seem like mz has natural progressions and is not trying to find mafia


I don't think this means he is town reading cake. He just has her as null rather than scum cause it seemed like JSL pinged him hard at the time, again, reevaluating reads isn't scummy to me.

Regarding your last point, why would jsl doing something completely unrelated affect MZs read on cake? It’s not an associative read by any means??

Regarding the previous quote, MZ says “I always hate when people come strolling in after a lynch and talk about how bad everyone was for lynching a townie” obviously he’s talking about cake here?!? Why would he be talking about vivax wtf
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 08 2024 15:01 GMT
#4864
Really is frustrating that most people checked out of today
No gg, No skill.
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
March 08 2024 15:04 GMT
#4865
On March 09 2024 00:01 Oatsmaster wrote:
Really is frustrating that most people checked out of today

I don't think I will be around for shenanigans unfortunately
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
March 08 2024 15:04 GMT
#4866
Meaning deadline that is.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 08 2024 15:11 GMT
#4867
On March 09 2024 00:04 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2024 00:01 Oatsmaster wrote:
Really is frustrating that most people checked out of today

I don't think I will be around for shenanigans unfortunately

Feel like the only other lynch people have the appetite for is ve, what do you think about that? I know you scumread him lol
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 08 2024 15:14 GMT
#4868
Eh let’s get something going
##unvote
##vote ve
No gg, No skill.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22256 Posts
March 08 2024 15:16 GMT
#4869
On March 08 2024 23:46 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2024 22:15 Koshi wrote:
On March 08 2024 22:11 Vivax wrote:
On March 08 2024 17:11 Koshi wrote:
On March 08 2024 10:32 DarthPunk wrote:
Vivax I helped you become mayor, so I feel I have a responsibility to keep you on track.

So when you do dumb shit I am going to block you every time until I die.

If you don't want to lynch Oats today that is fine, I will lynch Cake who is confirmed fucking mafia and then we can lynch oats tomorrow.

You may be mayor right now but i am in control of this fucking thread.

CC is not mafia. Worst case she is traitor and played very cool D1.


She could also be pretending to be traitor while you are the traitor tbh

I would be disappointed if mafia doesnt guess me at least once.

Actually an amazing thing to say as traitor…


Indeed.
DP should be all over this.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22256 Posts
March 08 2024 15:19 GMT
#4870
Koshi I want you to fight copcake over the right to be vigged first.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
March 08 2024 15:22 GMT
#4871
I can be vigged, koshi is cute and needs to be the hero the town needs but do not deserve.

Anytime <3
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22256 Posts
March 08 2024 15:25 GMT
#4872
On March 08 2024 23:20 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2024 22:46 Vivax wrote:
On March 06 2024 12:27 Vivax wrote:
The way I see it, DMB mafia means the scumteam would have to kill her as quickly as possible before she slips up too much.



Explain this to me like if I was a kindergarden


She‘s the type who thinks she‘d do a sick play by bussing all of her teammates for example. Like you could probably walk over the filter and find all the alignments from it.
Because she doesn‘t know that we don‘t fall for that kind of stuff and needs more scum experience.

I also think she finds this game more annoying than fun. Not many shitposts.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
March 08 2024 15:30 GMT
#4873
A game with me and dmb as mafia would had been so much fun.

iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
March 08 2024 15:30 GMT
#4874
If all the claims are true. I don't think there should be a traitor.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
March 08 2024 15:30 GMT
#4875
On March 09 2024 00:14 Oatsmaster wrote:
Eh let’s get something going
##unvote
##vote ve

Sure
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 08 2024 16:08 GMT
#4876
So we have reached rels

a post that really pinged me day 1 was where he asked for a list of reads from dmb but never followed up on that list at any point of time which is bad

In n1,
On March 07 2024 11:40 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2024 19:15 marvellosity wrote:
On March 06 2024 19:15 CopCake wrote:
On March 06 2024 19:10 marvellosity wrote:
On March 06 2024 19:09 CopCake wrote:
On March 06 2024 19:04 marvellosity wrote:
On March 06 2024 18:56 CopCake wrote:
On March 06 2024 18:52 marvellosity wrote:
On March 06 2024 13:42 CopCake wrote:
I came with some conclusions

Town:
Koshi
Slam
Rels
Marv
MZ
Oats

Feels town
VE

Mafia
DP
Iamp
Vivax

The rest are wild cards

I disagree with this enough for it to be town


What is wrong with it sweet pie?

I’d be shocked if iamp or Vivax are mafia.
Wouldn’t be shocked by DP but I don’t think so either


What about my town pile?

I’m not sure about Rels or MZ.


I think Rels felt genuine and interested, i think he could have easily blended with people if he was mafia.

You think he’s had an impact?

WTF is this standard? When is the last time I've had an impact D1? I hate those
Fuck this is annoying me. I feel like I'm being set up as the next lynch. Sick daughter, maybe getting laid off so I have a bunch of interviews coming up for which I have to prepare, but I have the feeling I'll have to devote my evenings to analyze the game and the days to scream at people like in the old days just to not be the default lynch

This feels overly defensive and unnecessary at this point. I think there were only 2-3 people even talking about him too. Just too much here.

D2 slam claims and rels posts this
On March 07 2024 12:21 Rels wrote:
nice

I believe Slam's claim, it just makes sense. Worst case, we trade 1:1

Miller chance is pretty low too

##Vote Oatsmaster


I brought it up earlier but I want to bring it up again, he’s setting up for lynching slam after I flip green which just seems really throwaway
No gg, No skill.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
March 08 2024 16:12 GMT
#4877
Rels is right tho, he has never been considered a player that have impact day 1.

Idk if way way way before but the games I have played with him he has been absent, as town or mafia.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 08 2024 16:12 GMT
#4878
Okay I posted that too early but I mean the rest of his day 2 is just meh
Oh I did find where he references the dmb list again
On March 08 2024 13:52 Rels wrote:
Not a fan of DMB after slogging through her filter.

I don't like that she spends soooo much time talking almost only about Vivax or the way she plays in the abstract early D1. I already didn't like it at the time D1, which prompted my push for a list from her. That list is pretty bad IMO - the only substanciated read is, again, on Vivax. The case on DP contains nothing that makes him scum. The dumbtell on D2 looks very forced.

I know she was scumread a lot as town though so I will need to verify if those points were present in her town game. Not tonight though

It’s weird that he only found it when he looked through her filte
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 08 2024 16:12 GMT
#4879
On March 09 2024 01:12 CopCake wrote:
Rels is right tho, he has never been considered a player that have impact day 1.

Idk if way way way before but the games I have played with him he has been absent, as town or mafia.

I mean sure? I’m not saying he’s right or wrong, I’m saying the reaction was over the top
No gg, No skill.
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
March 08 2024 16:14 GMT
#4880
On March 08 2024 12:17 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2024 12:06 Vivax wrote:
On March 08 2024 12:03 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On March 08 2024 07:43 Vivax wrote:
Marv is mafia, anyway.

He should be here dumping everything they discussed before his masons got killed, and taking control and he isn‘t doing either.

I‘d lynch him before Oats.

##Vote marvellosity

How serious are you about this vote?


I think 4 mafia were on Trfel now. Marv can wait
My vote is on jat.

What has pushed JAT ahead of Marv in your eyes?

I finally did a decent read of JAT and I think I know why youve got some of the reads the way they are
i dont think you're 100% right but I might be understanding someo f your thought process

Vivax I still wanna know if I was following your thought process on JAT correctly.

What do you think of this VE push?
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