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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
March 08 2024 16:58 GMT
#4901
On March 09 2024 01:42 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2024 01:31 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On March 09 2024 01:21 CopCake wrote:
MZ, i dont wanna be mean but I answered your question.

Did it help somehow with your reads?

I understand you were confused about slam's choice. I was trying to figure out if that stemmed purely from questioning slam or if it was also driven by a townread of Oats.

I think it helped. The biggest thing for me right now are the amount of people who voted Oats while calling him town. People caveating their votes like that is making me second guess some things.

At least you decided to scum read him based on the NKs after I asked you the questions yesterday morning.

… do you not think he looks town and are you not voting for him?

I thought his case on me was a little opportunistic but a lot of the stuff after that has looked better/town than anything else he's posted this game. I am voting him because I think he's going to flip red bc the math says so. Notice I'm not voting him and saying "oh yeah but I think he'll flip town." It's stuff like that which is giving me pause on him tbh, why vote on him when you think he'll flip town. If you think he's gonna flip town as Miller then why are you voting for him. If you think he got framed why are you voting for him. In a vacuum I think he's going to flip red because of how unlikely it is for either of those events to occur. But everyone being so wishy washy with their votes is making me uncomfortable.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
March 08 2024 17:00 GMT
#4902
Copcake now voting jealous is why I was trying to figure out how serious she was when she said something to the effect of "guess Oats is scum bc of the NKs" I'm phone posting at work otherwise I'd try and quote it but it happened after my initial conversation with her yesterday morning.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
March 08 2024 17:01 GMT
#4903
On March 09 2024 02:00 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Copcake now voting jealous is why I was trying to figure out how serious she was when she said something to the effect of "guess Oats is scum bc of the NKs" I'm phone posting at work otherwise I'd try and quote it but it happened after my initial conversation with her yesterday morning.


I never called Oats scum…
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
March 08 2024 17:02 GMT
#4904
In fact, me and oats are pancakes twinsies.

We have been vibing.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22405 Posts
March 08 2024 17:04 GMT
#4905
Cop sounds more line an ahuyasca shaman at this point than a mafia player
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
March 08 2024 17:05 GMT
#4906
This is also why I was asking Vivax about his vote on JAT and his reads on you and JAT. Like if he seriously believes one of you is more likely to be scum than Oats or if he's just looking for a way to not have his vote on Oats at the end of day. I've said it many times before, I don't see any way for vivax to be scum at this point but unless he's serious about lynching you guys, idk what he's doing.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
March 08 2024 17:06 GMT
#4907
On March 07 2024 14:06 CopCake wrote:
So in conclusion

oats is either mafia or miller. I would go mafia for Rayn’s death.

So

##vote: Oats

Hi cake, what is this?
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 08 2024 17:06 GMT
#4908
On March 09 2024 01:58 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2024 01:42 marvellosity wrote:
On March 09 2024 01:31 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On March 09 2024 01:21 CopCake wrote:
MZ, i dont wanna be mean but I answered your question.

Did it help somehow with your reads?

I understand you were confused about slam's choice. I was trying to figure out if that stemmed purely from questioning slam or if it was also driven by a townread of Oats.

I think it helped. The biggest thing for me right now are the amount of people who voted Oats while calling him town. People caveating their votes like that is making me second guess some things.

At least you decided to scum read him based on the NKs after I asked you the questions yesterday morning.

… do you not think he looks town and are you not voting for him?

I thought his case on me was a little opportunistic but a lot of the stuff after that has looked better/town than anything else he's posted this game. I am voting him because I think he's going to flip red bc the math says so. Notice I'm not voting him and saying "oh yeah but I think he'll flip town." It's stuff like that which is giving me pause on him tbh, why vote on him when you think he'll flip town. If you think he's gonna flip town as Miller then why are you voting for him. If you think he got framed why are you voting for him. In a vacuum I think he's going to flip red because of how unlikely it is for either of those events to occur. But everyone being so wishy washy with their votes is making me uncomfortable.

This is just semantics though. I’m honestly not saying this to be a dick, but I see what you’re saying and what I’ve said (I am just an example, there are others like me) as functionally equivalent. Which is the dude looks town (‘I think he’s town’ and ‘he looks town’ are the same statement in the context of the red check) but that’s where the vote ends up.

It’s just different ways of people expressing their read. And people understanding it’s very difficult to overcome a personal read in the face of a red check.

Do you see what I’m saying?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 08 2024 17:07 GMT
#4909
On March 09 2024 02:04 Vivax wrote:
Cop sounds more line an ahuyasca shaman at this point than a mafia player

Vivax stahp
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
March 08 2024 17:07 GMT
#4910
I wanted to include that in the post you quoted but copy/pasting on phone is annoying
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
March 08 2024 17:08 GMT
#4911
On March 09 2024 02:06 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2024 14:06 CopCake wrote:
So in conclusion

oats is either mafia or miller. I would go mafia for Rayn’s death.

So

##vote: Oats

Hi cake, what is this?


Oh my bad, I forgot.
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
March 08 2024 17:12 GMT
#4912
On March 09 2024 02:06 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2024 01:58 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On March 09 2024 01:42 marvellosity wrote:
On March 09 2024 01:31 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On March 09 2024 01:21 CopCake wrote:
MZ, i dont wanna be mean but I answered your question.

Did it help somehow with your reads?

I understand you were confused about slam's choice. I was trying to figure out if that stemmed purely from questioning slam or if it was also driven by a townread of Oats.

I think it helped. The biggest thing for me right now are the amount of people who voted Oats while calling him town. People caveating their votes like that is making me second guess some things.

At least you decided to scum read him based on the NKs after I asked you the questions yesterday morning.

… do you not think he looks town and are you not voting for him?

I thought his case on me was a little opportunistic but a lot of the stuff after that has looked better/town than anything else he's posted this game. I am voting him because I think he's going to flip red bc the math says so. Notice I'm not voting him and saying "oh yeah but I think he'll flip town." It's stuff like that which is giving me pause on him tbh, why vote on him when you think he'll flip town. If you think he's gonna flip town as Miller then why are you voting for him. If you think he got framed why are you voting for him. In a vacuum I think he's going to flip red because of how unlikely it is for either of those events to occur. But everyone being so wishy washy with their votes is making me uncomfortable.

This is just semantics though. I’m honestly not saying this to be a dick, but I see what you’re saying and what I’ve said (I am just an example, there are others like me) as functionally equivalent. Which is the dude looks town (‘I think he’s town’ and ‘he looks town’ are the same statement in the context of the red check) but that’s where the vote ends up.

It’s just different ways of people expressing their read. And people understanding it’s very difficult to overcome a personal read in the face of a red check.

Do you see what I’m saying?

Sure I get what you're saying but to me there is a difference between thinking someone looks town but thinking they'll flip scum and thinking someone looks town, is gonna a flip town, and the voting them anyway.

People not overcoming their personal read in the face of a red check and voting with their read is at least more honest than not overcoming that read but still voting for the red check.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
March 08 2024 17:15 GMT
#4913
I do not understand what copcake and vivax are doing right now with their votes.

Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
March 08 2024 17:15 GMT
#4914
Btw I refuse to take my vote on Jelaous.

He was an ass to me but “Vivax slapping my ass” is a good thought process.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 08 2024 17:19 GMT
#4915
On March 08 2024 23:46 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2024 22:15 Koshi wrote:
On March 08 2024 22:11 Vivax wrote:
On March 08 2024 17:11 Koshi wrote:
On March 08 2024 10:32 DarthPunk wrote:
Vivax I helped you become mayor, so I feel I have a responsibility to keep you on track.

So when you do dumb shit I am going to block you every time until I die.

If you don't want to lynch Oats today that is fine, I will lynch Cake who is confirmed fucking mafia and then we can lynch oats tomorrow.

You may be mayor right now but i am in control of this fucking thread.

CC is not mafia. Worst case she is traitor and played very cool D1.


She could also be pretending to be traitor while you are the traitor tbh

I would be disappointed if mafia doesnt guess me at least once.

Actually an amazing thing to say as traitor…

Yes I agree. But also as townie.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 08 2024 17:19 GMT
#4916
On March 09 2024 02:08 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2024 02:06 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On March 07 2024 14:06 CopCake wrote:
So in conclusion

oats is either mafia or miller. I would go mafia for Rayn’s death.

So

##vote: Oats

Hi cake, what is this?


Oh my bad, I forgot.

Why is rayns death important?
I had a good night of sleep.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 08 2024 17:21 GMT
#4917
On March 09 2024 02:12 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2024 02:06 marvellosity wrote:
On March 09 2024 01:58 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On March 09 2024 01:42 marvellosity wrote:
On March 09 2024 01:31 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On March 09 2024 01:21 CopCake wrote:
MZ, i dont wanna be mean but I answered your question.

Did it help somehow with your reads?

I understand you were confused about slam's choice. I was trying to figure out if that stemmed purely from questioning slam or if it was also driven by a townread of Oats.

I think it helped. The biggest thing for me right now are the amount of people who voted Oats while calling him town. People caveating their votes like that is making me second guess some things.

At least you decided to scum read him based on the NKs after I asked you the questions yesterday morning.

… do you not think he looks town and are you not voting for him?

I thought his case on me was a little opportunistic but a lot of the stuff after that has looked better/town than anything else he's posted this game. I am voting him because I think he's going to flip red bc the math says so. Notice I'm not voting him and saying "oh yeah but I think he'll flip town." It's stuff like that which is giving me pause on him tbh, why vote on him when you think he'll flip town. If you think he's gonna flip town as Miller then why are you voting for him. If you think he got framed why are you voting for him. In a vacuum I think he's going to flip red because of how unlikely it is for either of those events to occur. But everyone being so wishy washy with their votes is making me uncomfortable.

This is just semantics though. I’m honestly not saying this to be a dick, but I see what you’re saying and what I’ve said (I am just an example, there are others like me) as functionally equivalent. Which is the dude looks town (‘I think he’s town’ and ‘he looks town’ are the same statement in the context of the red check) but that’s where the vote ends up.

It’s just different ways of people expressing their read. And people understanding it’s very difficult to overcome a personal read in the face of a red check.

Do you see what I’m saying?

Sure I get what you're saying but to me there is a difference between thinking someone looks town but thinking they'll flip scum and thinking someone looks town, is gonna a flip town, and the voting them anyway.

People not overcoming their personal read in the face of a red check and voting with their read is at least more honest than not overcoming that read but still voting for the red check.

Okay I still think they’re identical but we’re not going to see eye to eye here so I will make a tactical retreat :p
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 08 2024 17:21 GMT
#4918
On March 09 2024 00:19 Vivax wrote:
Koshi I want you to fight copcake over the right to be vigged first.

Hmm?
I had a good night of sleep.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 08 2024 17:21 GMT
#4919
On March 09 2024 02:15 CopCake wrote:
Btw I refuse to take my vote on Jelaous.

He was an ass to me but “Vivax slapping my ass” is a good thought process.

I have no idea what you’re on about tbh.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9647 Posts
March 08 2024 17:22 GMT
#4920
Marv vote ve to give everyone something to think about.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
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