A Classy Game of Mafia - Page 21

On March 15 2024 11:28 Rels wrote:

Dropping the "CopCake told me" stuff, but this though I don't see it. Can you explain further?

On March 15 2024 11:30 Rels wrote:

Yeah
JAT has been so similar to me, the only way he's scum in my mind if is if he's purposefully copying everything I'm saying and pasting it back. Even though he shouldn't be by logic alone, I think he is my strongest townread. I would be like, honored, if he's scum and chose to mimic me. And also would learn from my mistakes for the next game hopefully lol

On March 15 2024 11:33 Rels wrote:

??????????
Can you expand on this sentence?

Why did you think that? I had the opposite reaction, and I wasn't the only one

On March 15 2024 09:07 Jealous wrote:

Going further on into D1, Palmar had some good reads. Sheeped Sandro. Outlook positive on VE (did mention they "looked at little worse" eventually though). But, they haven't all been consistent. He pulled back on Oats being bad a bit. He also thought marv was looking scummy, too. So, more of a mixed bag than my early analysis showed.

Example:


His lynch list at EOD1 isn't looking too hot:


Final list post isn't great, too. Oats is now a TR. So maybe it was fake pressure all along? Still SRing TTS though, but that's not exactly gold-star-worthy play at this point IMO.

But does he bus this hard on D2?


Wonder what happened to this:


This didn't age well, feels like a retaliatory SR:


Nested quote from rayn here about how Palmar's progression on VE was scummy is interesting in retrospect.

Palmar feels like he is just all over the place now, this is what sowing chaos looks like to me, especially given what was said before, especially about sandroba:


Still, can't deny that he is pushing hard on the Oats wagon. I think scum!Palmar would be content to be more half-hearted about it and sheep a VE vote relatively quietly when it was gaining momentum. Notable that Koshi was one of the driving forces for the VE lynch, but I'm starting to understand that this is just Koshi things (not that I like it though).

--[b]Intermission--

So far, everything from the mid point to the 3/4 mark of Palmar's filter is just a big fat nothingburger. Granted there was some drunkposting in the middle and I really sympathize with that, but it was almost all entirely lazy one-liners. Definitely "coasting" until some semblance of pressure mounted on him:

Instead what ended up happening is he just posted reasons why others were scum, so it felt like just fulfilled his town!Palmar obligations and went back to relative chill hard mode. I don't think that should be too difficult to do as scum, especially since just about everyone has some unfortunate/wrong/bad-looking stuff in their filters to latch onto, read in the most negative way, or misrep. So, I don't think that his activity today gives him all too many townie points because in the end he is just hopping from one wagon to the next, either as scum or as town for scum.


--"Conclusion"--
I think that Palmar is pretty hard to put a finger on. Did he type a lot of things? Yes. Were some of them good-sounding? Assuredly so. Does he have strong convictions, drive, and does he ever put himself into any significant danger? No.

I haven't had the chance to filter JAT recently so I'll probably do that next while out, but I won't make a post like this. If I had to go off of my overall gut feeling throughout the game, I'd say that they were even more wishy-washy than Palmar, but I don't want to discredit JAT before I actually do the work, so take that with a heavy grain of salt.

When done with JAT's filter, I will just insert them into my current list of scumminess (left is most town, right is most scum):



DP and Vivax are not present because I am still operating in conftown! world for both of them, similar for DMB but obviously much less so to keep it clean and easy.

PS: It seems I fucked up the bold tags somewhere but fuck it, it's legible.

On March 15 2024 11:34 Rels wrote:

Mixing our fake reads in a big pastebin and taking them out when we need them?

On March 16 2024 08:28 Jealous wrote:

They lynch town either way, CopCake's flip makes me look bad, she got the opportunity to call me scummy to boot, and she wasn't even the one that hammered CopCake. I think it works out pretty well in scum!DMB's favor.

On March 16 2024 09:35 Jealous wrote:

In other words that is a totally normal read progression for her?

DMB: "I think this post is townie."
Someone else: "No, it's scummy."
DMB: "Oh you're right, it's scummy."

???

On March 16 2024 09:56 Rels wrote:

She's stuck on the same read and same point on me ...

On March 16 2024 09:54 DarthPunk wrote:


Jealous analyse this post for me please.

On March 16 2024 09:56 Rels wrote:

She's stuck on the same read and same point on me ...

On March 16 2024 10:14 Rels wrote:

When I started I was NK pretty often. Then it stopped happening, partly because my scum game is pretty good and partly because I became super lazy as town early game. I can't remember the last time I've been nk as town, I've been lynched or survived lately I think

On March 16 2024 10:16 Rels wrote:

Palmar jealous dmb is my current team

On March 16 2024 10:20 iamperfection wrote:
that team would have 3 scum on oats. I dont think its that.