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On March 08 2024 20:06 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2024 20:05 justanothertownie wrote:On March 08 2024 20:04 DarthPunk wrote:On March 08 2024 16:45 marvellosity wrote:On March 08 2024 10:54 DarthPunk wrote:On March 08 2024 10:43 CopCake wrote:
DP, you have a gun.
Just Vig shot me. You know I will be RB Why did you claim exactly? I never caught up with some of the thread. I have a vig shot from the gunsmith and I plan to shoot TTS at some point, maybe tonight maybe not. Maybe I shoot cake instead who knows who I will shoot. Maybe I got saved again by vivax>? Maybe I don't shoot at all That's not really and answer as to why though, is it? Oh I thought he said what. I claimed because I am an idiot who just blurted it to the thread as soon as I read the PM obviously.
Ah ha.
It’s possibly the scummiest thing you’ve done tbh.
You understand the game too well to make such mistakes.
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On March 08 2024 20:26 DarthPunk wrote:Can anyone explain to me why if JAT was mafia, he would not vote for Town!trfel after I put pressure on him and a counter wagon was forming on him day 1 Show nested quote +On March 06 2024 07:08 DarthPunk wrote:
Vote: JAT
Talk to me about someone that isn't palmar or vivax. Show nested quote +On March 06 2024 07:50 DarthPunk wrote:On March 06 2024 07:48 justanothertownie wrote:On March 06 2024 07:46 DarthPunk wrote:On March 06 2024 07:43 justanothertownie wrote:
I will go to bed in like 10-15 minutes. It is really a shame that marv is not around and playing. Move your vote, or I will lynch you. Feel free to try. Sure Unvote:
Vote: JAT Show nested quote +On March 06 2024 07:51 DarthPunk wrote:
ATTENTION TOWNIES
We are now lynching JAT, adjust your votes accordingly. Cause the only explanation I can come up with is that JAT did that because he is Town and a stubborn bastard.
Good post
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VE is probably mafia.
DMB is probably mafia. I haven’t read her at all but I am piecing together everything everyone has said about her. Her story just converges on mafia.
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On March 08 2024 20:30 DarthPunk wrote:
Marv can you summarize the major points of your mz discussion with Sandro please
I already did so. We talked a whole bunch about the few posts he made about whether two people posting simultaneously about the ms game was scum. Sandro had said he had thought it was town but reevaluating as he was struggling to get scumreads. We agreed it was in balance townie but MZ could do it as mafia. Sandro thought MZ poking around near the start of his filter was townie, I didn’t really agree. I thought MZ might be mafia because his posts didn’t infuriate me - but by that metric his recent posting is townie.
We didn’t end on any sort of firm conclusion
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On March 08 2024 21:07 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2024 21:04 marvellosity wrote:
VE is probably mafia.
DMB is probably mafia. I haven’t read her at all but I am piecing together everything everyone has said about her. Her story just converges on mafia. I think you should read her filter from this game and her filter from last game side by side. Thats what I did at any rate.
I should but I’m not going to 
Obviously when I say I have pieced together what everyone is saying, I have also read most of her posts myself.
For me I’m lacking any real townie curiosity I think.
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On March 08 2024 21:10 CopCake wrote:
I know MZ asked me something, glanced it a while ago.
I considered odd that Slam picked Oats, as easy as that. It felt out of character tbqh.
TBH I have not caught up,on the section of the game I missed so I still don’t know the reasoning lol. I’ve just seen other people post that it made sense when they read it
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On March 08 2024 21:11 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2024 21:08 marvellosity wrote:On March 08 2024 20:30 DarthPunk wrote:
Marv can you summarize the major points of your mz discussion with Sandro please I already did so. We talked a whole bunch about the few posts he made about whether two people posting simultaneously about the ms game was scum. Sandro had said he had thought it was town but reevaluating as he was struggling to get scumreads. We agreed it was in balance townie but MZ could do it as mafia. Sandro thought MZ poking around near the start of his filter was townie, I didn’t really agree. I thought MZ might be mafia because his posts didn’t infuriate me - but by that metric his recent posting is townie. We didn’t end on any sort of firm conclusion Well that is disappointing I tend to land on sandro's side of the argument. MZ looks townish to me when I read his filter and interact with him in the thread but I am having trouble finding 5 mafia. He just keeps scumhunting his whole filter and following threads of interest.
What did you think to oats case on him?
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On March 08 2024 21:14 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2024 19:36 justanothertownie wrote:On March 08 2024 11:20 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
The egos people have in this game to sit here and try to talk around probability is absurd. Someone doing it is scum. On March 08 2024 11:27 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
look vivax Im ngl, oats has made posts that if he made them 48 hours ago Id def townread him too, but I don't think Im better at reading the game than the probability of events that had to occur for him to somehow be checked wrong. Like I do get why you don't wanna lynch him but its still the right move.
lol I was thinking about this a bit. Would. Mafia MZ lack the self-awareness to be this much of a hypocrite?
Reads a little as a town case tbh. Think he’d be more careful.
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On March 08 2024 21:14 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2024 21:10 CopCake wrote:
I know MZ asked me something, glanced it a while ago.
I considered odd that Slam picked Oats, as easy as that. It felt out of character tbqh.
Are you casting doubt on slams alignment here?
No she isn’t
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I,m answering for her because she has previously said she didn’t understand but then slam posted the reasons and it made sense.
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On March 08 2024 21:17 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2024 21:16 marvellosity wrote:On March 08 2024 21:14 justanothertownie wrote:On March 08 2024 19:36 justanothertownie wrote:On March 08 2024 11:20 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
The egos people have in this game to sit here and try to talk around probability is absurd. Someone doing it is scum. On March 08 2024 11:27 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
look vivax Im ngl, oats has made posts that if he made them 48 hours ago Id def townread him too, but I don't think Im better at reading the game than the probability of events that had to occur for him to somehow be checked wrong. Like I do get why you don't wanna lynch him but its still the right move.
lol I was thinking about this a bit. Would. Mafia MZ lack the self-awareness to be this much of a hypocrite? Reads a little as a town case tbh. Think he’d be more careful. That's what I meant.
I know x
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On March 08 2024 21:19 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2024 21:14 marvellosity wrote:On March 08 2024 21:11 DarthPunk wrote:On March 08 2024 21:08 marvellosity wrote:On March 08 2024 20:30 DarthPunk wrote:
Marv can you summarize the major points of your mz discussion with Sandro please I already did so. We talked a whole bunch about the few posts he made about whether two people posting simultaneously about the ms game was scum. Sandro had said he had thought it was town but reevaluating as he was struggling to get scumreads. We agreed it was in balance townie but MZ could do it as mafia. Sandro thought MZ poking around near the start of his filter was townie, I didn’t really agree. I thought MZ might be mafia because his posts didn’t infuriate me - but by that metric his recent posting is townie. We didn’t end on any sort of firm conclusion Well that is disappointing I tend to land on sandro's side of the argument. MZ looks townish to me when I read his filter and interact with him in the thread but I am having trouble finding 5 mafia. He just keeps scumhunting his whole filter and following threads of interest. What did you think to oats case on him? Bad.
Can you explain a little? What specifically was bad? I don’t need a high effort response
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I mean if we can deal with MZ one way or another we’re in good shape
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Hahahah how do you have 36 pages of filter DP. Fuck me.
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On March 08 2024 21:25 CopCake wrote:
Go ahead big boi, lynch me.
This is your town, no?
Or are you gonna start two trains out of thin air like with Tfrel and JAT?
Can we park the whole CC DP business. At least till day 3
That goes to both of you
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On March 08 2024 21:27 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2024 14:43 Oatsmaster wrote:Okay so I was quoting a bunch of mz posts but I fucked up somewhere and the post is gone. Anyway let me try again On March 05 2024 00:59 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 04 2024 18:28 marvellosity wrote:On March 04 2024 12:32 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 04 2024 12:28 DarthPunk wrote:
If we vote for the tip top town to be mayor, why can't we trust them with a vig shot?
Sure make suggestions and stuff, but I know if I was the mayor I am just going to back myself, because I know I am town and can make a smart shot.
But I don't know if you're town and I'm still not trusting my tip top town with a shot on D1. Sorry MZ, you’d trust a collective town with all sorts of levels of play, and containing multiple mafia, to make a better choice than your best town read? On D1? Yes. Outside of people like Ver or Ace or incognito, I don't think there's anyone on TL who I'd trust over my own reads on D1. I know trfel and I kinda beat the whole mayor kill thing to death in the first few pages but I just think using it as a town double lynch has a way higher chance of hitting scum than one guy taking a gut shot. So mz here says that he trusts his own reads above everyone else in the game but then somehow twists that to having town choose the mayor kill being ideal which would give mz the benefit of mayor without the drawbacks of the responsibility to actually carry out the kill. Scummy I don't think this is alignment indicative, I agree with what sandro? says about this being an old-school approach, and I can recall other townies suggesting this in older games. Show nested quote +On March 07 2024 14:43 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 05 2024 11:09 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 05 2024 06:45 sandroba wrote:
I mean I can see you not confident rayn is town, being maybe null on trfel and leaning scum on marv. But pushing to lynch into these 3 now is just ridiculous as town, you are sowing doubt and with no actual town goal. I'm pretty convinced koshi is scum Is he scum or frustrated by the mason circle and trying to force a case to justify his emotions? Mz then goes through koshi and flip flops a couple of posts about koshi and right after that does this weird defending post to Sandro where it seems like he has a really firm townread on koshi which wasn’t a natural progression. He does this earlier with dmb too, in a very unnatural way. I think town are more likely to be fluid in their reads, I can see what Oats is saying here but I don't agree it is scummy, and it didn't really strike me as unnatural over being open minded. Show nested quote +On March 07 2024 14:43 Oatsmaster wrote:MZ also spends most of the day tunneling copcake and writing posts that he never follows up on about the people that “thought vivax was town but didn’t want him to be mayor” However come to right after the lynch, mz posts this On March 06 2024 12:26 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 06 2024 12:15 Vivax wrote:On March 06 2024 12:14 CopCake wrote:On March 06 2024 12:12 DarthPunk wrote:On March 06 2024 12:12 CopCake wrote:
In before, cake why were you so sure Tfrel was town? Only mafia can be like that 🧟♀️
I wasnt sure, but I stated why Tfrel is a good player AND it was probably his real birthday today, we saw a birthday cake in his username and he said he was unaware, so if he id mia maybe it is because of the celebration. You wasted your vote, so you can't be mad if you are town. I didnt wasted my vote, I was sleeping. And spent yesterday part of the day praising Tfrel. You saying this is unfair. And a bad player. You put your alarm at 1 minute after deadline ? lmfao I missed this, I had the exact same thought. I always hate when people come strolling into the thread after a lynch and talk about how bad everyone was for lynching a townie when their vote is on some rando with no real chance of dying and they weren't around at the deadline. As if the person he’s talking about isn’t his top scumread throughout day 1 and just some rando. Again makes no sense for a townie to think like this. Pretty sure he is mistaking Vivax for Cake in this point. Show nested quote +On March 07 2024 14:43 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 07 2024 11:06 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
OK I'm caught up. No way scum shoots me with everyone who decided it was time for the D2 MZ scum read a little early but in case someone was inspired to vigi me I've got the following for scum in order of confidence:
JSL for stuff I've previously posted about
VE for completely fucking off from the game when the pressure let up from him
TTS for also completely fucking off
Marv based on vibes and his refusal to interact with the thread outside of the mason group.
JAT (but this is a weak read since my vote on him was more because I thought he was scummier, worth a revisit for me)
I'm no longer scumreading cop but I just wish she would answer my questions about JSL
Town reads who I'm never gonna lynch are:
Sandroba
Vivax
DP
Koshi
Randomly now townreads her even though he previously said how he hates her play, there’s no explanation here as to why he flips. Overall, it just doesn’t seem like mz has natural progressions and is not trying to find mafia I don't think this means he is town reading cake. He just has her as null rather than scum cause it seemed like JSL pinged him hard at the time, again, reevaluating reads isn't scummy to me.
Thanks. I do appreciate this.
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On March 08 2024 21:48 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2024 21:37 Koshi wrote:On March 08 2024 21:27 marvellosity wrote:On March 08 2024 21:25 CopCake wrote:
Go ahead big boi, lynch me.
This is your town, no?
Or are you gonna start two trains out of thin air like with Tfrel and JAT? Can we park the whole CC DP business. At least till day 3 That goes to both of you Let's make that d5. I should be dead by then. Why are you assuming I will be alive?
Come on
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On March 08 2024 22:15 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2024 22:11 Vivax wrote:On March 08 2024 17:11 Koshi wrote:On March 08 2024 10:32 DarthPunk wrote:
Vivax I helped you become mayor, so I feel I have a responsibility to keep you on track.
So when you do dumb shit I am going to block you every time until I die.
If you don't want to lynch Oats today that is fine, I will lynch Cake who is confirmed fucking mafia and then we can lynch oats tomorrow.
You may be mayor right now but i am in control of this fucking thread. CC is not mafia. Worst case she is traitor and played very cool D1. She could also be pretending to be traitor while you are the traitor tbh I would be disappointed if mafia doesnt guess me at least once.
Actually an amazing thing to say as traitor…
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Like it’s a joke. But is it.
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On March 09 2024 01:31 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2024 01:21 CopCake wrote:
MZ, i dont wanna be mean but I answered your question.
Did it help somehow with your reads? I understand you were confused about slam's choice. I was trying to figure out if that stemmed purely from questioning slam or if it was also driven by a townread of Oats. I think it helped. The biggest thing for me right now are the amount of people who voted Oats while calling him town. People caveating their votes like that is making me second guess some things. At least you decided to scum read him based on the NKs after I asked you the questions yesterday morning.
… do you not think he looks town and are you not voting for him?
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