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sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
December 14 2023 19:23 GMT
#1975
Marv if you are town do me a solid and move the vote to chez before signing off.
DMB still has not voted and Chez is voting Trfel.
It means I'm probably dead if townies amongst Marv, Koshi, Palmar, HF don't move their vote.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
December 14 2023 19:32 GMT
#1976
Koshi you have absolutely no reason to be voting for me. You don't have a scum read on me. Assuming you are town, at best you are sheeping a read from stubborn marv who deep down realizes I'm town but is too lazy to re-interpret the game. At worst you are mafia siding helping them lynch an active townie who is contributing.
Just to not vote on Chezinu who you believe is mafia.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
December 14 2023 19:45 GMT
#1979
Really hard for me to believe you are scum now that you came back and vote Chez, especially if Chez flips mafia. Not sure if I'm crossing the line here, but if I did it was unintentional.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
December 14 2023 22:17 GMT
#1991
Palmar never engaged with me in the chat, he didn't try to get any reads out of me today and yesterday was unwilling to engage with my Trfel read. Before he signed off yesterday, he said he thinks I'm town and let's talk about to talk about dmb and rayn tomorrow. But today he messaged twice asking me to claim blue and that was it. It's disingenuous to characterize it as I didn't talk about reads since he was purposely derailing and reverting back to trolling everytime the conversation was getting to a good place.
He has 0 reasons to scum-read me and plenty of reasons to town-read me. DMB has no way to be on his top town reads.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
December 14 2023 22:23 GMT
#1993
On December 15 2023 07:03 Palmar wrote:
I'm not sure how to deal with sandroba right now.

I'm actually unsure how to deal with the entire game. I don't know who is mafia and it's so much effort to figure it out.

I'm still annoyed that sandroba never gave me anything other than Trfel. He didn't talk about rayn hf koshi slam etc at all.

I'm also more suspicious of Trfel by the minute but he's probably a weaker one.

My list is something like this at the moment

dmb
marv
slam
koshi


hf
trfel
chez


rayn
sandroba


The crazy part is, I wouldn't even be surprised if someone told me one of my townreads is mafia. I actually think it's quite likely.

I feel a little lost. And the time schedule again is so annoying. I want to believe I would have stopped killing Vivax on day 1 if he had defended himself while I was awake. I could've interrogated him and pushed him and forced him to look town. But everything was disjointed and bad.

The chez lynch is an admittance we don't know what we're doing. Sadly maybe that is exactly what we need, stall the game into tomorrow and hope for a better day and maybe a blue miracle or so.

Palmar is just mafia here, no way he thinks I'm mafia and just gives up, and remember this - he never explained why I'm even mafia to begin with!
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
December 14 2023 22:24 GMT
#1994
On December 15 2023 07:20 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2023 07:17 sandroba wrote:
Palmar never engaged with me in the chat, he didn't try to get any reads out of me today and yesterday was unwilling to engage with my Trfel read. Before he signed off yesterday, he said he thinks I'm town and let's talk about to talk about dmb and rayn tomorrow. But today he messaged twice asking me to claim blue and that was it. It's disingenuous to characterize it as I didn't talk about reads since he was purposely derailing and reverting back to trolling everytime the conversation was getting to a good place.
He has 0 reasons to scum-read me and plenty of reasons to town-read me. DMB has no way to be on his top town reads.


To be fair i was lying when I called you town.

Nah, you just slipped out of compassion for my frustration. Why would you lie about this?
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
December 14 2023 22:27 GMT
#1996
On December 15 2023 07:26 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2023 07:24 sandroba wrote:
On December 15 2023 07:20 Palmar wrote:
On December 15 2023 07:17 sandroba wrote:
Palmar never engaged with me in the chat, he didn't try to get any reads out of me today and yesterday was unwilling to engage with my Trfel read. Before he signed off yesterday, he said he thinks I'm town and let's talk about to talk about dmb and rayn tomorrow. But today he messaged twice asking me to claim blue and that was it. It's disingenuous to characterize it as I didn't talk about reads since he was purposely derailing and reverting back to trolling everytime the conversation was getting to a good place.
He has 0 reasons to scum-read me and plenty of reasons to town-read me. DMB has no way to be on his top town reads.


To be fair i was lying when I called you town.

Nah, you just slipped out of compassion for my frustration. Why would you lie about this?

Found it funny!

Humor is based on truth
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
December 15 2023 03:05 GMT
#2062
Fuck yeah, if Chez flipped town I think it would be almost a sure loss for us.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
December 15 2023 03:07 GMT
#2064
My super 100% guaranteed town circle is Trfel, Slam, Marv. Never voting for any of these.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
December 15 2023 03:18 GMT
#2067
Basically now we have to figure out who out of Rayn, Palmar, Koshi, HF, DMB is town. And I think we can 2 misses? So basically we need to pick one town out of this bunch.

I'd be down to lynching Rayn first. His day 2 was extremely underwhelming, he avoided commenting on my alignment completely and voted Chez I believe mostly on town sentiment.

I'd say the other one is Koshi, he read me town, but he refuses to come in and defend me and try to sway the vote off me. He only swaps to Chez to keep consistent with his "sheep marv" ordeal.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
December 15 2023 03:19 GMT
#2068
On December 15 2023 12:10 die_meatbaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2023 12:07 sandroba wrote:
My super 100% guaranteed town circle is Trfel, Slam, Marv. Never voting for any of these.

what makes Trfel town.
Slam yes
marv okey
but trfel...

I was tunneling Trfel hard, he came in and town read me, argued against people in thread and voted Chez. I think it's pretty much impossible he is mafia.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
December 15 2023 03:34 GMT
#2074
If all 3 of me / trfel / vivax are town what does it matter what chez does?

D1 Either way Chez would go would be seen as scummy. If he flipped on me I flip town he looks bad, if he doesn't Vivax flips town he looks a little bad? Staying on Vivax is easier as he has already justified that vote.

For D2 when Chez came into the thread in the beginning it was really looking like I would be the lynch. Voting Trfel like that throws suspicion on me by association with him since people consider him possible scum. It throws suspicion on Trfel. If I get lynched and flip town Chez looks better. Plenty of reasons for him to do it.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
December 15 2023 03:35 GMT
#2076
On December 15 2023 12:27 Alakaslam wrote:
Inb4 slam was bussing

Slam if you are mafia you are townsiding so hard, your team might just nk you.
Anyway I'm ride or die with you until the end.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
December 15 2023 03:39 GMT
#2079
DP was the only reasonable townie that was not lynch bait.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
December 15 2023 03:47 GMT
#2080
I'm guessing the NK is marv, so marv has some work to do tonight.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
December 15 2023 14:14 GMT
#2149
Yep, I am back to liking Koshi. His story from his perspective makes sense. I also think DMB's paranoid posting after the flip looks townie.
So my possible scum team is reduced to rayn, HF, palmar.

If we go into uber tinfoil land Slam never made so much sense during a certain period of last day that it read almost as a different person took over the keyboard. But then again if this is the case I'm in his pocket forever he can just take me to mylo and I'll lynch myself
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
December 15 2023 14:17 GMT
#2150
On December 15 2023 23:14 sandroba wrote:
Yep, I am back to liking Koshi. His story from his perspective makes sense. I also think DMB's paranoid posting after the flip looks townie.
So my possible scum team is reduced to rayn, HF, palmar.

If we go into uber tinfoil land I've never seen Slam make as much sense as he did during a certain period of last day. It read almost as if a different person took over the keyboard. But then again if this is the case I'm in his pocket forever he can just take me to mylo and I'll lynch myself

Phrased it like a moron, fixed the slam part, not that it's really relevant
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
December 15 2023 14:23 GMT
#2151
How can palmar still think I'm scum here, do you think that's possible marv?
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
December 15 2023 15:21 GMT
#2177
Re-reading D2 I don't think there is any world where rayn is not mafia. Koshi called him out for the exact same reasons I saw when re-reading so Koshi probs town.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
December 15 2023 15:30 GMT
#2181
Mafia busses all the time, you entered the thread and threw a cop-out vote on Chez while still saying I'm mafia. Never really took a stance on why I'm mafia, just kept the option open. You just avoided all the main topics like me vs trfel vs marv vs palmar, instead is hyper-conscious and about koshi and trfel were wrong about saying you voted on townie Vivax when you wouldn't be as town when people are not even considering you for a lynch.
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